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Just Lilly 146	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:56:00 - [91] - Quote Aight, back to the adrenaline pumping Dota 2 action Nice hype though, well played CCP 07 Powered by Nvidia GTX 690
Manic Velocity Furious Angels 38	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:56:00 - [92] - Quote I'm going to have my name inscribed on a national monument. I'm kind of a big deal. == Furious Angels [FRANG] is recruiting! == Our site: http://thefuriousangels.com My blog: http://pgandt.blogspot.com
Ammzi Love Squad Black Legion. 1655	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:56:00 - [93] - Quote I was expecting to be underwhelmed. I won! :D
jolanai Holy Crusaders of Bob Ocularis Inferno 3	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:58:00 - [94] - Quote Debora Tsung wrote: Some day, ... I'll constantly bicker on about how things used to be better in my days and that game companies used to value their customers until they can recite everything tehy said in their sleep. Is this your CSM application? If so, you have my vote.
Phoenix Jones Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 412	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:59:00 - [95] - Quote I don't know of many things that have had monuments erected in its name. Warcraft? There's no Great Orc statue. Everquest? No monument to it. Gundam... oh wait they have that 10 story Gundam statue somewhere. Stabbers are totally broken http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox 3083	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:59:00 - [96] - Quote Siobhan MacLeary wrote: How does this thing even represent EVE? There's no imagery in the design that resembles anything in EVE, just a blank obelisk flanked by a face-like object. The only thing telling us that this monument represents EVE is that sculptor saying it does. It could just as well represent the struggle of the common man to understand the mindless rapacity of the business world, or something else appropriately art-wonky. Once upon a time, the Apoc was one of the iconic ships of EVE... then it got remodelled. Once upon a time, the Raven was one of the iconic ships of EVE... then it got remodelled. Once upon a time, the Tempest was one of the iconic ships of EVE... then it got remodelled. So, I guess what I'm saying is that if you want the monument to be a permanent and unchanging tribute to all of the EVE players, then it should be a statue of a Megathron. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Roux Michon VAF Special Forces The Hub Life 1	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:59:00 - [97] - Quote Siobhan MacLeary wrote: How does this thing even represent EVE? There's no imagery in the design that resembles anything in EVE, just a blank obelisk flanked by a face-like object. The only thing telling us that this monument represents EVE is that sculptor saying it does. It could just as well represent the struggle of the common man to understand the mindless rapacity of the business world, or something else appropriately art-wonky. I'm disappointed, CCP, because you made such a big deal over this and it's something that doesn't actually affect a lot of us. ^THIS. All day long. Where did CCP dig up their marketing and community people? Or did some Executive force this down their throats as a vanity project? I think the latter is more of the problem. There is an obvious disconnect between CCP and the players here. And whoever forced this project is living in a bubble far away from normal people.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 97358	Posted - 2014.02.05 15:59:00 - [98] - Quote Siobhan MacLeary wrote: I am so completely and utterly underwhelmed, CCP. Yeah, I guess a monument is cool, but here I was thinking the timer would be counting down to some important change to EVE Online, rather than an announcement about a planned monument. How does this thing even represent EVE? There's no imagery in the design that resembles anything in EVE, just a blank obelisk flanked by a face-like object. The only thing telling us that this monument represents EVE is that sculptor saying it does. It could just as well represent the struggle of the common man to understand the mindless rapacity of the business world, or something else appropriately art-wonky. I'm disappointed, CCP, because you made such a big deal over this and it's something that doesn't actually affect a lot of us. Same tired old arguments used against Maya Lins' minimalist design for the Vietnam Memorial in Washingto DC. "Nobody will go. It's ugly. A black slab has nothing to do with Vietnam". Blah blah blah. It's so popular they can't hardly handle the crowds. Time will tell all. It always does. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 2425	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:00:00 - [99] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Interesting that you are so impressively psychic that you "just know these things as truth". Good God. that one posts to sound edgy and cynical knobber Jobbler wrote: Richard Garriot took my name to space. Beat that. perhaps we can arrange for you to be taken up and left there Simon Page wrote: The players I'm sure would rather this money be spent on the game, or given to a charity, no a statue with me on it will be just fine
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 97358	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:01:00 - [100] - Quote Roux Michon wrote: There is an obvious disconnect between CCP and the players here. And whoever forced this project is living in a bubble far away from normal people. So, showing appreciation of customers is a disconnect ? OK then. Got it. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Silent Rambo State Protectorate Caldari State 108	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:01:00 - [101] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: What a bunch of pessimistic, self-entitled, unimaginative DWEEBS poasting in here. CCP should just copy the toon names of all the Haters in this thread and LEAVE THEM OFF the monument. Easily done. And I hope they do. I really wouldn't care. It's not my actual name on the monument anyway. In 100 years is anyone really going to care about a gamer tag named "Silent Rambo" on a monument in Iceland? How is having a little perspective of how little this actually effects me now and forever being unimaginative? (I'll give you pessimistic) I understand it will bring old players back which is fantastic, but it really looks like a vanity project more then anything since there are other ways to bring old players back. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies?
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 97358	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:02:00 - [102] - Quote Benny Ohu wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Interesting that you are so impressively psychic that you "just know these things as truth". Good God. that one posts to sound edgy and cynical Just exactly as you just did right here. Congratulations, creep. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Kasife Vynneve Nourwolf Corporation Fortis Et Certus 17	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:02:00 - [103] - Quote Chad Wylder wrote: Steel plate on the bottom = Minmatar Only when it starts to rust
Gyromite Stronghold of the Condemned 2	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:04:00 - [104] - Quote Very touching, but useless.
Lyell Wolf Sleepless Guardians 52	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:05:00 - [105] - Quote GOTBOT wrote: A monument.. or tombstone? That comment actually feels more valid than any of the others... that being said. I think it's really cool what CCP is doing and I'm not disappointed. But a laptop with vids and things of EVE buried underneath a monument actually sounds like a tombstone. //LW
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 97358	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:05:00 - [106] - Quote Since when is customer appreciation a form of Vanity ???? vanity: excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements. Celebrating one's playerbase does not qualify as this at all. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 2425	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:05:00 - [107] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Just exactly as you just did right here. Congratulations, creep. i say i agree with you and i get called names i accept your congratulations with thanks
Freelancer117 So you want to be a Hero 116	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:07:00 - [108] - Quote Ammzi wrote: I was expecting to be underwhelmed. I won! :D This is CCP's "Open Door policy" Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans. http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
ZeeWolf Novus Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:07:00 - [109] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Same tired old arguments used against Maya Lins' minimalist design for the Vietnam Memorial in Washingto DC. "Nobody will go. It's ugly. A black slab has nothing to do with Vietnam". Blah blah blah. It's so popular they can't hardly handle the crowds. Time will tell all. It always does. I really cant see myself going all the way to Iceland just to see some slabs with my name on it. Given the number of characters active in Eve right now, that'll be some small writing.
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 2206	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:09:00 - [110] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue? How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people? Eve is a virtual world. What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about? CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita. It would have more value to more of the player base. How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument? How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played? How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money? And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec? Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock? And I would suggest the segment of players that re-sub to get their player name immortalized will not likely be the type to hang around in the game. Whatever factors that drove them to unsub in the first place will remain. I strongly doubt that any revenue increase in subs will outweigh the costs of this venture. I guess that CCP is actually in pretty good shape financially, if they can afford this thing. And as for high sec being nerfed by this, I will not disappoint all my followers and detractors. How about this as conspiracy theory 1. CCP is in great shape financially because they would not be throwing silly money at this if they were not. Because they must have some kind of cushion, that means that CCP must feel they could weather the financial storm if some significant segment of their player base quit, also known as some percentage of high sec. So the faction within CCP that wants to decimate high sec is given the blessing of Hilmar, and sweeping nerfs to high sec are implemented, and CCP takes a short term hit in subs, but with the new game mechanics, draws in every sociopath that plays video games, and Eve's sub rate doubles to 1 million in 12 months, and within 2 years, outstrips WoW. At that point, a new monument is erected, depicting Hilmar in his flowing Nordic robes, leading the charge of the null sec cartels luminaries against some defenceless high sec miner. Such luminaries flanking Hilmar we will include the effigies of all the people that helped create this new Nirvana, like soundwave, fozzie, seagull, and mittens. Now, is that tinfoil enough for you today, or do you need something more? Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook.
Darth Sith Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda 32	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:10:00 - [111] - Quote Wow .. that timer was the biggest let down I can remember .. . I would have preferred my 10 yet vet station that was promised a year ago TBH :(
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 13632	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:12:00 - [112] - Quote Imiarr Timshae wrote: Malcanis wrote: Imiarr Timshae wrote: I can't really imagine anyone caring. Couldn't the money put into erecting this thing have paid a dev to fix some of the abandoned content in this game :/ Edit : Monument should just have been a concrete door that never opens. It's more representative of their development style :) Hahah I told CCP that at least one idiot would make this stupid whiny argument. And I told my friends that at least one CSM member would pickout "Maybe develop the game more instead of building monuments lol" as a "stupid whiny argument". Shows what we know Do you understand what marketing is, I mean as a basic concept? 1 Kings 12:11
Pinky Hops Spartan's DNA 407	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:12:00 - [113] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Older players resubscribing is a bad thing ? REALLY ? TRULY ???? Obviously older players re-subbing is a great thing. However, it's a long term fail -- this is just a publicity stunt. Nobody will care about this. Put in other terms: why did those players unsub to begin with? Does this monument correct those reasons? Will they come back and say "Oh man, this monument is so great. I'm so glad I came back. Without the monument, EVE Online is just not as fun of a video game." Really?
ZeeWolf Novus Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:13:00 - [114] - Quote Darth Sith wrote: Wow .. that timer was the biggest let down I can remember .. . I would have preferred my 10 yet vet station that was promised a year ago TBH :( I would hope that after 10 years you'd have learnt that CCP and promises don't go hand in hand.
Pix Severus School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 313	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:13:00 - [115] - Quote If a player's main character is called "I hate Iceland" or something similar, would CCP still add that name to the monument?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 13632	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:14:00 - [116] - Quote Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Malcanis wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue? How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people? Eve is a virtual world. What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about? CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita. It would have more value to more of the player base. How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument? How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played? How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money? And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec? Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock? I do. 1 Kings 12:11
Ivan Stoner Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity 0	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:14:00 - [117] - Quote I like the idea of the Monument and i don't understand why so much ppl whine here. Because last year on Fanfest they annouced that they will build a Monument and after that it becomes very quiet about that. So no wonder that CCP reannouced that. But two thing could be done by CCP different: 1st why doesnt show CCP several different concepts about that Monument and let the Players and Devs decide which one is the better. 2nd why has this Monunemt so less reference to Eve? I personally didn't like the right structure its looks like a ***** (ty Turrann). Why not instead the Concord Station from Yulai or a Gallente Outpost i thing Jita 4-4 Station would be also good.
Riddick Nova EVE University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:15:00 - [118] - Quote So how does CCP know who your main char is?
Freelancer117 So you want to be a Hero 116	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:15:00 - [119] - Quote Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock? And I would suggest the segment of players that re-sub to get their player name immortalized will not likely be the type to hang around in the game. Whatever factors that drove them to unsub in the first place will remain. I strongly doubt that any revenue increase in subs will outweigh the costs of this venture. This is so true, I already get "Immortalized" in so many indie games because of crowdfunding, the underlying problems with Eve still exist. Untill all these get resolved, using a 1 week timer to bring "good news" to us the customers is ridiculously out of context. Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans. http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 13635	Posted - 2014.02.05 16:16:00 - [120] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: If a player's main character is called "I hate Iceland" or something similar, would CCP still add that name to the monument? CCP's position is that the character name has to conform to local Icelandic law, so no hatespeech bullshit or incitements to violence, but other than that if people want to immortalise themselves as xXxW33dL0rd420xXx then that's up to them. 1 Kings 12:11

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