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Chante Crow
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Posted - 2006.09.18 14:13:00 -
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me too! native mac os x client please!
a friend of mine just sold his windows pc and bought a mac pro (and he won't install windows ^^) so now he can't play eve anymore :(
i think i'm gonna do the same when there finally is an eve mac client! those things just run great :D
i know it's a lot of work but i'd rather see a mac client than a directx 10 optimized one since i definitely won't buy windows vista.. =)
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Longword
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Posted - 2006.09.25 00:00:00 -
[32]
I'm Spartacus!
Err. Yeah, I'd kill for an OS X client too. All my real work requires OS X (or Linux but I don't see that happening) and it's mighty inconvenient to reboot to the games OS for my Eve fix.
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Ralimenua
Hazara Khan's Haphazard Bazaar
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Posted - 2006.09.28 12:59:00 -
[33]
+1
EVE is about the only thing I keep a PC around for. My shiny new MacBook Pro is gagging for some EVE.
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Alexander Knott
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:57:00 -
[34]
Same here. Would really love to ditch Windows for good.
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DarkHelmut
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:43:00 -
[35]
/signed
The only reason I'm running bootcamp is for EvE, and dual booting sucks (and windows has very minimal Mac driver support right now). Mac client please!
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Alexander Cris
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Posted - 2006.10.03 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Alexander Cris on 03/10/2006 09:30:21
I am starting to hate windows more and more and i have bought a Mac and i am dieing to have EVE on it. A lot more stable and a lot more shiny... Plus since the aliance betwen IBM and Apple the Mac's market started to grow and it's growing for the simple reason that is more relyable than an ordinary PC. So yes i signed to and i8 don't think the work is that bad, I mean this is theyr job right? I do my job they do theyrs simple.
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Hemmer
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Posted - 2006.10.03 14:14:00 -
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Just order my Mac Pro yesterday so I'm in the please port to OS X camp now. I made the big switch because I know Eve (and other Windows only software I care about) will run great in bootcamp but I would love CCP to build a native OS X client. Most if not all of the top end games, including WOW, have native OS X clients.
To those who say the Mac market share is too small I say this is my first ever Mac and I know I'm not alone in switching (something like 40% of the record number of Mac purchases in the last quarter were first time buyers) so I think it would be worth CCPs while to port it over.
Besides I'd love to see the Eve icon bouncing on the dock when I launch it...hehehe
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Taedrin
Gallente
Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:44:00 -
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They would have to port the game to OpenGL, sound to ALSA.
Oh yeah, and they would have to create substitutes for all references to #include <windows.h>, and alter all code that relies upon various Microsoft specific behavior (trust me, there's a lot of standard C/C++ functions with Microsoft specific behavior). And then there's the fact that there are core diffferences between Windows and Macs that would have to be solved. For example in Windows, wchar_t's are 16 bits long, while they are 32 bits long in UN*X like OS's (read Mac OS X). Also you need to consider endianess, orientation of the stack, system dependant heap implementation, and etc... And you also need to consider differences in the windowing system (for example, what does EVE need to do to get a hardware surface from Mac OS X for drawing? Does EVE need administerator privileges to do the stuff it needs to do?)
And this most likely isn't even the tip of the iceberg. Porting is a nasty business, CCP has enough bugs to fix as it is.
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Sphit Ker
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Posted - 2006.10.08 05:52:00 -
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Its not fun to hear that. 
It sadden me to no end.
It can't be too hard. No more difficult than XP -> Vista and DX9 -> DX10 transition I am SURE of that.
There is nothing left to say.
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Sphit Ker
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Posted - 2006.10.08 05:57:00 -
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heck, I, for one, would promptly accept to pay twice as much a monthly fee for an OSX client!!
Yes I would and I am not crazy.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:04:00 -
[41]
 Originally by: Sphit Ker
Its not fun to hear that.
It sadden me to no end.
It can't be too hard. No more difficult than XP -> Vista and DX9 -> DX10 transition I am SURE of that.
There is nothing left to say.
Appart from it's rediculously easy to do it... They just need to work on the few things that Vista changes, mainly how it draws things, and change that. Once that's done, they work on a new engine to support those features. Now THAT takes a long time.
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Rukya
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Posted - 2006.10.09 03:13:00 -
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well cant they use Cider? i mean they wouldnt need to do all that work, to have a osx client.
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Alexander Knott
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Posted - 2006.10.09 21:23:00 -
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I'm sure it's not quite that simple or they woul dhave done it already. On the other hand, Cider does seem like a good place to start if they were interested, especially given that they already talk to the Cedega guys.
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Djerin
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Posted - 2006.10.10 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
what does EVE need to do to get a hardware surface from Mac OS X for drawing?
afaik OSX doesn't provide such an insane type of layer model. It's mostly UNIX-based and therefor does not allow any process besides some OS' processes themselves to access the hardware directly.
And you better wish Apple wont ever introduce such stupidity. This type of OS-layout as provided in Windows is the reason for all those viruses and worms and so on having barely an obstacle breaking in to a system. To me this kind of software-design rather looks like a very dirty hack than an effort to improve performance.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:12:00 -
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The devs have already mentioned they are in talks with transgaming and that there isn't an official relationship.....YET. (keyword there.)
An official relationship, I'm betting, would include cider. It'd be nice to get an update on this from kieron, oveur or somebody, but they (ccp) are notoriously tight lipped about this sort of thing...and I don't really blame them as a deal not done....ain't a deal at all.
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Redrig Bayer
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:46:00 -
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Also worth keeping an eye on Crossover Mac - They've got it running things like HalfLife2 etc. (Under DX7 unfortunately) but are pushing the development a bit - Might see how this ends up.
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Jon Frimann
Minmatar
Ordo Custodes
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Posted - 2006.10.12 05:12:00 -
[47]
MacOs X is Unix (FreeBSD brand), so from that point it is easy for them to make a linux client. But I use linux as my main Os. Prefer not to use Windows, but I will do so anyway if I have to play eve-online.
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Norjia Blacksteel
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: evistin
However Windows is losing market share to the Mac, The Mac is getting better and more powerful, but it will never outdo the PC because its treated by apple as a closed group.(They build hardware and software)
Market forces will always opt for an open standard verus a controlled one.
Market forces are why PCs are crap. All the pressure on price combined with generally low customer knowledge has resulted in things like WinModems (modem with no hardware), integrated graphics cards, and other garbage. Macs being manufactured by only one company means the components all work together properly. Mac users just don't have to worry if the latest crash is due to a conflict between their sound card and motherboard drivers.
Free markets do not necessarily result in good products; sometimes, but convenient products are more likely. Convenience is not always linked with high quality.
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Blue Alien
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.16 05:37:00 -
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I am all for a MAC version of EvE - I am going to try using it with bootcamp, ill let you know what my results are on my MacBook Pro.
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Scragg
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.16 19:14:00 -
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Hey if they ever wrote a Mac OS client would it have a pastel color scheme with a flower and peace sign skin?
OK.. I'm sorry... .bad Scragg... bad!
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.10.16 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Scragg
Hey if they ever wrote a Mac OS client would it have a pastel color scheme with a flower and peace sign skin?
OK.. I'm sorry... .bad Scragg... bad!
LMAO......maybe 10 years ago. Last time I looked the MAC looked sexy and 22nd century and not in a pastel sorta' way. 
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Svengali
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:17:00 -
[52]
Welp.
Put me in the Mac OS port camp also.
Have had PCs for many many years, but the Mac Pro was at an awesome price/performace point (just the basic, Apple overcharges for their extras) (well, and the things I need the machine for have better mac versions (Final Cut, Shake, DVD Studio).
Now Ive bootcamped XP, but I hate rebooting just to play Eve. Which happens to be the only app I need windows for.
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Takis Shiro
Trucido Vulgus
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:43:00 -
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I too have to put my name down for an Macintosh client, be it written or just a port via CIDER. Bootcamp works fine to play the game and never having been an owner of a windows pc I do appreciate the gaming that gets opened up with the evil empire of windows. However other than games its really irritating to be lacking all your programs until you reboot
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ElfeGER
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.17 12:15:00 -
[54]
I don't know what the performance would be if Eve would be compiled native for ppc but I doubt it would be that great with the the new gfx stuff and extended version coming up.
The intel mac users should try the CrossOver Mac Beta and the Eve feedback thread.
Give feedback there.
Performance is a bit low atm but it saves you from rebooting for skill changes or some other stuff.
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Drone Guy
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Posted - 2006.12.17 21:00:00 -
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See the realy unfortuane thing here is that you people use macs. I wont touch a mac with a ten foot pole, because, well basicaly they suck. The computer itself isnt too bad, but the problem is the fact that macs cost about 2x as much as a pc thats just as good, so i cant see why anyone would buy one. CCP isnt going to convert to macs, because they are going nowhere. So to sumarize: Macs=lame
Feel free to rant at me, ill have a snappy comeback ready to make you look like an ass.
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Rudie Capone
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Norjia Blacksteel
Originally by: evistin
However Windows is losing market share to the Mac, The Mac is getting better and more powerful, but it will never outdo the PC because its treated by apple as a closed group.(They build hardware and software)
Market forces will always opt for an open standard verus a controlled one.
Market forces are why PCs are crap. All the pressure on price combined with generally low customer knowledge has resulted in things like WinModems (modem with no hardware), integrated graphics cards, and other garbage. Macs being manufactured by only one company means the components all work together properly. Mac users just don't have to worry if the latest crash is due to a conflict between their sound card and motherboard drivers.
Free markets do not necessarily result in good products; sometimes, but convenient products are more likely. Convenience is not always linked with high quality.
Umm...Macs run on intel processors now. They had motorolla, Then IBM, and now Intel. Current MAcs appear to favor Nvidia for video cards. Wich parts does the company actually produce? They pick a hardware package and give it a cute name. When you buy a Mac you pay for MacOs in a pretty case. The only real difference between buying a Mac or a PC now is your Mac is a PC with Mac OS installed. While when you buy a PC you buy the hardware and decide on an OS. On convenience, Isn't that 80% of the Macintosh marketing scheme? You dont need to do anything to your mac? Dont get me wrong I'm not getting down on Macintosh, I use one for graphic design, but buying a mac is like buying a toaster You choose your options, color and bam, make toast.
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WisdomLikeSilence
Knights of Red Mars
Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.27 00:12:00 -
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At the fan fest the devs announced they WOULD be doing a mac port for eve, as well as a linux port.
Currently I run eve on my Mac using bootcamp. It runs 3 instances with no loss in framerate and never seems to lag for me. So I dont really care if they port it or not, but it would be nice to not have to boot into windows and deal with its clunky OS.
I want to use my robot-wisdo body!
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Alexander Knott
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.12.27 00:15:00 -
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As an aside, porting to a new system needn't be a negative experience. It does force you into a more modular approach, but my experience has been that this can help improve the overall reliability of your software. Additionally, I often find that porting to a new system can expose bugs that exist on my current system but for whatever reason aren't often tickled in the laboratory. That last bit is invaluable since intermittent bugs can be difficult to track down otherwise.
Of course, none of these are reasons to do the port of themselves. That's going to be a business decision driven by CCP's estimation of whether they think they can make enough extra money from the Mac port to pay for whatever resources they need to maintain it.
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Sam Deacon
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:08:00 -
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Well, I got EVE running on my Macbook Pro via Bootcamp, but it's constantly crashing and disconnecting. Is there some kind of fix for this that any of you bootcampers have found? Aside from that, it runs beautifully.
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Jargoon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:40:00 -
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Come on CCP
You can do it
All you gotta do is
Put your mind to it
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