Games always need new players........ and yes I answered without reading

Crybaby.

Heheh, about what I expected. Another issue with the game is that a huge number of people on the forums are apparently the shut-in non-working types with no sex lives who derive their entire sense of self worth from their ability to feel superior on a video game. Not any actual reasoned discussion.

So, what kind of reply do you expect, when you start thread number. 12335345436436 on that topic. Basically there is nothing more to say than: HTFU or GTFO.

This is not hello kitty online... if someone joins the game and thinks its to harsh it simply is not a game for that person.

Heheh, about what I expected. Another issue with the game is that a huge number of people on the forums are apparently the shut-in non-working types with no sex lives who derive their entire sense of self worth from their ability to feel superior on a video game. Not any actual reasoned discussion.

I've tried to get new guys involved in the game, and it always comes down to the same problem. There is a massive advantage for people who have been playing for a long time, and also for those who can devote a lot of time to the game.

But when new players are being bombarded by suicide gankers and war decs in high sec, then they feel like they don't have a place to go where they can learn and build up to the point that they can join in the pvp stuff.

I have friends with a high sec corp. They like to do pve and they don't bother other players. Their corp is specifically listed as a training corp for new players.

Would anyone care to do me a TLDR version please ? I have a fear of large walls.

Many thanks

That attitude will have you playing another game in a year or two.

TL;DR - EVE is dying cuz meanie vets are scaring away new people.

Oh i see, thanks.. that one again ?. Eve's been slowly dying since 2003 so I hear :)

There is a massive advantage for people who have been playing for a long time, and also for those who can devote a lot of time to the game. Casual players are going to be at a huge disadvantage.

Their corp is specifically listed as a training corp for new players.

And so they are going to get frustrated and leave the game. And it's going to deter new players from ever getting into the game.

Is the ease of attacking newer players in high sec worth the game not getting new players?

Would anyone care to do me a TLDR version please ? I have a fear of large walls.

Many thanks

A valid point arises, what is simply missing is rewards for being the good guy. EVE works as risk vs reward, and what we're failing to attract is the good guy player persona. The bad guy is always glorified, through the news and etc, whats the next big heist? But nobody ever sees the good deeds, most players DO NOT like to play in that kind of environment, they want to know that what they're doing is going to be rewarded as significantly as the other.

Also to add, war dec shields coming winter 2014 :D, im calling it.

So what I see is that unless you are already running tech 3 ships or have plenty of corp mates online all the time, you shouldn't really play the game. You can't join a small corp who wants to play casually for an hour or so a couple times a week together and enjoy the group dynamic without being harassed by groups who really can't risk anything more than the "easy kill". No, we shouldn't make any slight changes that would encourage players of a certain level to leave lower level players alone, so perhaps those players develop. Heh, I can see the chunky kid behind the keyboard who got pushed around on the playground thinking he get's his revenge on Eve. And from all I read on these forums, it really is about a fear that the higher level players will lose their easy targets. Can't have that. It's all about risk, right? Just as long as it's the other guy's risk, not yours.

Nfain,

I never looked at it that way. Now that you mention it, I think something like that would be awesome. If there were rewards and such for being good I could see myself making changes in my game play rapidity. IRL i'm helpful, nice, being respectful and polite is who I am. In EVE, I'm a complete ass hole, the rewards for such actions are far to great for me to consider being anything else but.

I often see new players in lowsec. I mow them down and any other target I have the opportunity too. Ransom, blow up offlline Pos and other "mean" things. To me it's just the way of EVE and the natural flow of how things are. The though never occurred to me to add some form of reward or perks for being nice. Outside of the box thinking, I really like it.

No, I was the small, skinny kid who was likely to get pushed around on the playground, so I recognize the type. Though I grew up, joined the military, then became a cop and spent my time trying to stop those jackholes who pray on the weak. I guess that is why I don't like the type I see to often here. The idea of a reward system for being the good guy does appeal to me.

Some knowledgeable person should give OP some useful advice on how to beat the wardec problem. That's why the corp isn't enjoying the game-- they don't know how to counter the wardecs.