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Adwokat Diabla
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.03.03 00:28:00 -
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Gorski is hands down one of the best pilots I've ever met and will be able to accurately represent pvpers, regardless of skill level. You have all my votes :) |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:22:00 -
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Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:Quote:Links currently gives your gang a larger engagement profile and helps you take fights that you would not have taken otherwise. It helps small gangs fight bigger gangs and trade somewhat even. You're assuming larger gangs don't have OGB?
No I am not assuming larger gangs are linkless these days. I assume everyone to have links on and adjust my piloting based around that.
For the whole linked blob vs linked small gang I feel like a smaller gang will have more experience flying with links and against people with links and should usually have better tactics and fleet concepts. So they can maximize the benefits of their force multipliers. There will of course always be gangs that you can not attack without getting totally wrecked and that is fine. You should not expect to win every single few versus many fights, especially not against equally skilled people. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
54
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:56:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Paul Tsukaya wrote:Could you clarify your position on links and command ships on station?
Should activating warfare links give you aggression? Yes or no? Yes very much yes. They provide far to big of a boost at no risk on stations.
So does this mean that pilots in high sec who use gang links in incursion fleets should go suspect as well?
The Nosy Gamer - Free Wollari!-á Buy your EVE time codes through Dotlan maps! |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
109
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Posted - 2014.03.03 05:38:00 -
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Will vote 4 Gorski for booshvouch and ECM nerf.
In all honestly though, Gorski is a legit pvper and low sec bad, he knows the struggles of the people and how the meta effects all of our gameplay. Solopvp needs a candidate!
Gorski for CSM -áFear The Tribes |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2891
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Posted - 2014.03.03 06:13:00 -
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While I do have plenty of respect for Gorski, I must disagree with regards to OGBs.
If any ship or module gives your fleet a distinct, measurable and mechanical benefit, you should have to risk it on the field. Having to play the "do they have links?" song and dance before you think about taking a fight is, imo, one of the nails in the coffin of small gang pvp in this game.
ECM wouldn't be ok off grid. Remote sebos wouldn't be ok off grid. Logi would not be ok off grid.
Why are (often absurdly good) buffs ok off grid? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
247
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Posted - 2014.03.03 07:51:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:Gorski Car wrote:Paul Tsukaya wrote:Could you clarify your position on links and command ships on station?
Should activating warfare links give you aggression? Yes or no? Yes very much yes. They provide far to big of a boost at no risk on stations. So does this mean that pilots in high sec who use gang links in incursion fleets should go suspect as well?
I have no problem with this. I have personally run incursions before and I know they are doable without links. I know incursion runners are smart people and I am sure they will find ways to move around this "problem". #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
247
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Posted - 2014.03.03 07:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:While I do have plenty of respect for Gorski, I must disagree with regards to OGBs.
If any ship or module gives your fleet a distinct, measurable and mechanical benefit, you should have to risk it on the field. Having to play the "do they have links?" song and dance before you think about taking a fight is, imo, one of the nails in the coffin of small gang pvp in this game.
ECM wouldn't be ok off grid. Remote sebos wouldn't be ok off grid. Logi would not be ok off grid.
Why are (often absurdly good) buffs ok off grid?
My opinion was to either keep then off grid or change them drastically if they are to be on grid.
Quote:Then you make sure Battlecruisers and command ships will be able to fit links without gimping their pvp mode. Adding a new t2 destroyer that is able to provide link bonuses would also be cool if CCP decides that links need to be ongrid only.
Quote: if we have to put links on grid I want more ships that should be able to put links on them and not having to compromise their entire fit. This could even make battlecruisers used again in fleets. I also do not like the mindlink implant at all.
In the end the links on grid or off grid is a issue many people have very different opinions about and I believe that CCP needs to decide and just go with one of them. I would just try to make sure they do a good job if they put them on grid. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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BadAssMcKill
Love Squad
666
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Posted - 2014.03.03 08:18:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:While I do have plenty of respect for Gorski, I must disagree with regards to OGBs.
If any ship or module gives your fleet a distinct, measurable and mechanical benefit, you should have to risk it on the field. Having to play the "do they have links?" song and dance before you think about taking a fight is, imo, one of the nails in the coffin of small gang pvp in this game.
ECM wouldn't be ok off grid. Remote sebos wouldn't be ok off grid. Logi would not be ok off grid.
Why are (often absurdly good) buffs ok off grid?
Gorskis already answered this but I'd just like to say I agree with him.
Its pretty hard to fit multiple links to a ship that can keep up with say a kiting Ishtar and the like
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2892
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Posted - 2014.03.03 09:02:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote: My opinion was to either keep then off grid or change them drastically if they are to be on grid.
I do not disagree that they would need to be reworked if they were made on grid.
Where I do disagree is when people say things akin to claiming that not having cloaked, safed, functionally invincible Lokis proving fleet boosts is somehow too hard.
The mechanic is broken, no matter who uses it or how. A broken mechanic doesn't have an alliance ticker on it.
Yes, some doctrines would not be able to use links anymore.
That is a GOOD THING. Having to make tradeoffs and decisions instead of "Buy boost alt, get power". It's such a binary mechanic right now, that could be made into so much more.
Heck, with on grid only boosting, you might have a dimension of fleet combat besides "primary is falcon", or "primary is logi". It would force choices for the enemy, too, if they want to shoot your booster first or your other targets. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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rhiload Feron-drake
TURN LEFT
8
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Posted - 2014.03.03 13:49:00 -
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Johnny knows what up. keep it up gorski |
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Rahelis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
33
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Posted - 2014.03.03 14:01:00 -
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We have a ship type, the command ship, that is mostly not used on grid, because off grid boosting is possible.
The base eve idea was high risk, high reward - off grid boosting is WOW, low risk, high reward.
Small gang fights suffer the most from off grid boosting, because small ships have the biggest firepower and the smallest tanks compared to mass.
Off grid boosting is one of the main hindrances for pvp in low sec..
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. DARKNESS.
4262
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:37:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Off grid boosting alts (OGBs): I currently believe that links are in a fine place power and projection wise. I know many people don't share my view of this but let me help you understand. Links currently gives your gang a larger engagement profile and helps you take fights that you would not have taken otherwise. It helps small gangs fight bigger gangs and trade somewhat even. There are multiple ships that hard counter small gangs and I think it is only fine that a link alt helps counter larger gangs.
Gorski Car wrote:It helps small gangs fight bigger gangs and trade somewhat even. I've never seen anyone run for the CSM with an honest-to-god stand-up comedy routine before. Mane 614
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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
561
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:59:00 -
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Quote:Off grid boosting alts (OGBs): I currently believe that links are in a fine place power and projection wise. I know many people don't share my view of this but let me help you understand. Links currently gives your gang a larger engagement profile and helps you take fights that you would not have taken otherwise. It helps small gangs fight bigger gangs and trade somewhat even. There are multiple ships that hard counter small gangs and I think it is only fine that a link alt helps counter larger gangs. There is of course nothing that stop bigger gangs from using them and that's fine because smaller gangs are mostly designed to better benefit from the links.
is csm a joke to you |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
291
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:11:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:
I understand the need for bigger plexes and a system like this would be better then what we have now. I guess there are some people that will argue that restricting shipsizes is restricting the sandbox but I don't really agree. I think that the fw plexes has done way more good for this game and the state of lowsec fw pvp.
Beginner plex: t1 frigs, faction frigs. 10k lp Small plex: t2 frigs, t2 destroyers. 15k lp Medium plex: t1 cruisers. 20k lp Large plex: t2 cruisers, battlecruisers. 25k lp Huge plex: All sub caps 30k lp Ungated plexes. 30k lp
And make the rat hard inside them.
Am please with this +1. Would probably have to increase the respawn timer on these like an hour, so that we can still all dog pile into 1 plex at a time. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
250
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:05:00 -
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I realize now that I should have made a larger post explaining my stance on links. I will write something up when I get back home from work.
Phonepost. No I do not feel that this is a joke. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
60
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:17:00 -
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one of the problems i find with a low sec market is the people there dont give you the chance for someone to set up a market and would rather kill the guy rather than allowing him to bring in ammo and other goods that would benefit that low sec group. Theres a big enough problem in high sec trying to be an industrialist with gankers, and cant be out in null because of CTAs. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
Ketzero
Daktaklakpak. Red Coat Conspiracy
3
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Posted - 2014.03.03 22:35:00 -
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Agondray wrote:one of the problems i find with a low sec market is the people there dont give you the chance for someone to set up a market and would rather kill the guy rather than allowing him to bring in ammo and other goods that would benefit that low sec group. Theres a big enough problem in high sec trying to be an industrialist with gankers, and cant be out in null because of CTAs.
If there's a group that routinely camps a station or an area, become familiar with them, and ask for some sort of an arrangement? If I wanted to get business done in Kamela, for example, I'd talk with Death By Design about a blue status for a hauler/cyno/whatever to bring in goods.
A well-functioning lowsec market is good for all involved. In Kamela, DbD trades one hauler or cyno kill for kills on 15 people who come there looking for Heavy Neutrons because they're 500k ISK cheaper than in Sasiekko, for example.
Eve is a game with other people, and whether or not you choose to be a team player, there are some situations that end up being mutually beneficial to 2 parties, and often-times, that's enough. |
Rahelis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
34
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Posted - 2014.03.04 16:31:00 -
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Thread takeover - but still part of the problem.
There is no low-sec market in eve because of broken game mechanics - jump freighter is the problem for markets - as the titan bridge is a problem in pvp. Those work on the principle of WOW - low risk, high reward.
Gatescamps that can get blockade runners/ cloaky haulers will mostly have OGB - back on thread.
Eve wanted to be high risk - high reward - a low sec market would be an wonderful niche for many traders, which could make at least 15% profit to jita prices, 30-50% are possible. That would be a special trade career, a mix of piloting and trading.
But the game is broken.
On grid boosters kill small gang action. Titan bridges kill gang action. Jump freighters kill markets.
I see that removing the three would destroy most null "ecomonies" - and CCP only care for null sec, because they think that are most of their customers.
A fast look at gam statistics will show that most eve players live in high sec . . . |
BBQ FTW
The Hatchery Team Liquid
118
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Posted - 2014.03.04 22:42:00 -
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just dropping in to say that there are certain widely-accepted mechanics in eve that don't conform to the risk = reward thing, such as skillpoints
thus I would expect our intrepid link haters to next agitate for the removal of the clone mechanic + finite align time on capsules
no? but high reward should have some risk right? |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
251
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:10:00 -
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Just straight up stating that the game is broken is a bit bittervet/grim don't you think. I really think eve is a wonderful game and there is a reason I have been playing since 2003. You can't really move onto other mmos after playing Eve and getting stuck.
On jfs removing risk from hauling:
I really agree with this. There is almost no risk in piloting a jf unless you **** up. I would love to have people having to organize defense fleets to bring a freighter out a bit into lowsec to deliver goods. I have seen Brave Newbies do this and it seems kind of a fun thing to do. Without jump freighters deep 0.0 logistics would be a real pain in the ass though and that's why it probably should be easier to build stuff out there.
My stance on links and off grid boosting:
I think that links are in a fine place power wise and projection wise. They have way to little risk with using them though and its next to impossible to kill a command ship on station. There are many things I think CCP can do to solve this. One way to solve this is to give link activation a aggression timer. This would stop station and gate linking. Another problem with linking is the fact that the t3 ships currently can do way to many things at the same time.
Being able to warp cloaked, ignore bubbles and provide links at the same time is to much and I will wait for the t3 rebalance and hope something gets changed here. In general I think t3 cruisers are probably way to strong. Another thing I kinda don't like is the fact that these can be made next to impossible to probe. Activating links should expand your sig radius massively or they could just remove the eccm effect on how hard it is to probe you.
I think that we are currently far away from having links on grid. I do not think CCP should change stuff as drastically as most people want. I do not want a rlml scenario where CCP rushes something into the game almost unannounced without any time to listen to criticism. In order to put links on grid I feel we need more ships able to provide links. I have suggested a new t2 destroyer class. Battlecruisers needs to be able to fit links without compromising their entire fit and maybe allow more then 3 ships to provide boosts for a fleet.
I am pretty certain that CCP has a end goal where links are on grid and I personally have no problem with this I will do what I did when CCP changed hmls, rlmls, tracking enhancers and warp speeds. Adapt and move on. I have never blamed a loss on the other guy having links and I would never do that same thing with ECM, getting blobbed etc. It is part of the game at this moment and you need to accept that. Oh and by the way I do not use link alts all the time as some people have suggested. Trying to get a legion/damnation to keep up with a cruiser/frig after the warp speed change is such a pain in the ass that I just don't bother and to be honest you don't really need it. People are overestimating the power of them pretty hard. Especially skirmish and info because those are both counter able by good piloting.
I understand that some of you guys who solo pvp do not share my views on linking alts and if that is the only question that matters to you then I might not be the most militant guy. I do not think removing something completely or just mindlessly putting them on grid is a good solution. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Rahelis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
34
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:20:00 -
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It is about game balance.
If you do not understand it - you do not understand. |
Firefox4312 Yatolila
Evicted. Havoc.
39
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:19:00 -
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Very solid candidate. Very dedicated to the balance of the current game, and wants to see it prosper to live for another 11 years to come. As he is an older player, he knows his stuff about eve, and can be a huge benefit to the eve community, and especially that of the solo pvp community.
I would fully endorse Gorski Car to be on the csm, since he, as I said above, is a very dedicated eve player, and wishes to see the game prosper to be the top MMORPG and the longest living game of all time. |
xXxLeaqMLGswagxXx Master Trole2014
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 09:44:00 -
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Martyr to the swag on the corner.
Vote Gorski Car! |
Longdrinks
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
21
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:13:00 -
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In which direction do you think ccp should take the recons in the next expansion? Just straight up buff the speed and cap on most of them or changing around bonuses to make something new? |
Cavalira
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
299
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:24:00 -
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Gorski Car is by far one of the more enlightened persons regarding solo/small gang pvp, therefore he has my support for the CSM.
@Rahelis:
Hi,
Jumpfreighters help traders setup markets, and they help people import. Therefore removing Jumpfreighters would make it hard to setup a lowsec market, and preventing people from importing from highsec. This won't actually help the creation of lowsec market, since the vast majority of lowsec players haven't got a JF. The reason behind the lack of lowsec-markets is due to low traffic (because there are no lowsec market hub).
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
261
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Posted - 2014.03.07 22:57:00 -
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Longdrinks wrote:In which direction do you think CCP should take the recons in the next expansion? Just straight up buff the speed and cap on most of them or changing around bonuses to make something new?
That is a good question. I think that a problem eve have at the moment is the lack of good force multipliers that have some kind of risk involved with using them. It is pretty frustrating to be killed or held down by a 10MN EAF that's 80 km away pressing one button while being at virtually 0 risk.
Just straight up crying nerf/remove ECM/damps will not get you anywhere and I am not a fan of removing features from the game no matter how bad they are. I would rather see some changes.
I think that CCP needs to change a lot with the recons. At the moment they are pretty much all outclassed by the T3 cruisers, trading half the ewar strength for 3 times the tank. I am more of a fan for giving them something new. More and different types of ewar, more combat capability and something that will put them at risk in order to utilize their full strength. A ewar like the stasis fields the arbitrators cast in brood war might be cool where you can't attack for x seconds but can't take damage maybe.
Currently recons are in a spot where they either are useful and get instantly primaried off field because of low hp or where they actually do nothing or even worse they are out at a distance where they are at no risk at all while providing anti fun for the hostiles. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Fayral
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
13
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:31:00 -
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Hey Gorski.
What's your take on the recently added ESS. Do you feel it met the design intention of giving small gangs something to "force" carebears to bring a fight and push the attackers off? At the same time being worth it for the carebears to deploy in the first place. If you were on CSM8 what suggestions would you have made for the ESS, if any?
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1012
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:19:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Nashh Kadavr
The Bastards
14
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:31:00 -
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You'll have my votes.
Good luck! http://nashh-blog.pvp101.net/2012/09/crime-pays.html
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Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
332
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:25:00 -
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Gorski is most trusted third party in EVE and I would be honored to call him my CSM representative. |
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