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BBQ FTW
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:44:00 -
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do you think smartbombs are currently underpowered? |
Franky Saken
Mafia Redux Phobia.
27
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Posted - 2014.02.26 00:11:00 -
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Gorski. What do you think about the current state of the warp speed changes where EVE has basically turned into cruisers/hacs online for longer nullsec roams, especially now ishtars (and cerbs) can outdamage, outapply, and outtank most t3 bcs? |
Omega Crendraven
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
157
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:46:00 -
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Franky Saken wrote:Gorski. What do you think about the current state of the warp speed changes where EVE has basically turned into cruisers/hacs online for longer nullsec roams, especially now ishtars (and cerbs) can outdamage, outapply, and outtank most t3 bcs?
Ishtar is good ship, drones )) [ xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx } ] HISEC / NULLSEC / LOWSEC Mercenary Alliance |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
244
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:31:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:What are your thoughts on Timer Rollbacks or Dual Timers for FW Plexes?
Do you support making FW Missions for the various faction equal in difficulty? (needing a similar kind of ship, where as now Gal Mil has to use Tier3s/Stratios/HACs where other factions use stealth bombers).
Are you for removing FW Missions?
Do you see problems with power projection and would you like to see it reduced?
Are you interested in making it so .4 systems aren't baby lowsec (moon mining, POS reactions, etc.)?
Do you have any thoughts on how FW Lowsec corps should make isk on a corporate level since there is no mechanic to tax LP, or do you think a mechanic should be created?
Re dual timers or timer rollbacks:
Why can't you just defensive plex the site that is being taken by a cloaker? Maybe you should get a bigger LP reward for dplexing a plex that has been failed to complete. Timer rollbacks might actually be a good idea though.
On FW missions:
I support fw missions and think it is great that they are in the game. You can't force everyone to join fw simply for pvp and people need to have a way to fund all their ships. I think it is bad that the gal fw missions have so much ewar that they are undoable in a bomber or not effectively run. All fw missions should be able to be run by a bomber but in some cases its more effective to run them in a ishtar for example.
People might think that a bomber is way to hard to catch and generate way to much isk/risk in lowsec but I disagree. I have personally run warp speed linked crows in FW space and warped to beacons as soon as they pop on the overview. It is possible to catch a surprising amount of bombers this way.
Moons, reactions etc
I have no experience with moon mining and pos reactions and didn't actually know that you cant run them in 0.4 so I don't really have a opinion on that.
I am not sure that FW corps need a way to tax LP from their members. I know this is a often requested feature from ceos and directors but really what do you need the isk for? It won't stop people having farming alts and there is no reason to have a SRP in FW space since the pilots do not need to be bribed to join a fight and everyone should have more then enough to replace their ships. I guess some people like space communism but I wouldn't join a corp that tries to steal my isk with taxes. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
244
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:37:00 -
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BBQ FTW wrote:do you think smartbombs are currently underpowered?
Right now I think all of them are underpowered except the large versions that might be a tiny tiny bit underpowered.
I think that smartbombs should be a easy way to clean up drones in their size category so small bombs for scout drones, medium bombs for medium drones and large bombs for heavy drones. The problem you run into if you do it like this is that large bombs will probably deal far to much damage to frigates. But if the bombs have less range then scram range it shouldn't be a instant kill for people getting close.
I don't really see a problem with large smartbombs being buffed since their uses right now are really slim and many people choose to use the more useful energy neutralizer in their utility high on battleships. Even if it is a really good way to counter ec-300s.
Micro smartbombs are in the same place as 50mm plates and I have no idea why they are even in the game.
#GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
244
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Posted - 2014.02.26 15:00:00 -
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Franky Saken wrote:Gorski. What do you think about the current state of the warp speed changes where EVE has basically turned into cruisers/hacs online for longer nullsec roams, especially now ishtars (and cerbs) can outdamage, outapply, and outtank most t3 bcs?
I think the warpspeed changes hurt bigger ships way to much. It is still awesome for interceptors and stuff.
#GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
163
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Posted - 2014.02.26 15:38:00 -
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While able to run the timer down defensively, the warp core stabbed cloaky farmer goes and completes almost 2 plexes to your 1 if they ground the timer up, thus the commonly requested timer rollbacks.
Corp income isn't much of an issue if all you fly is T1 frigs. But with current mechanics of force projection as well as the nature of FW Lowsec, and lowsec in general, income for most corps is usually in the 2-10 million isk range excluding direct member contributions. Rent on an office in Eha is 100 million isk, when we moved out of nenna the rent there was over 300 million a month.
Do you see problems with power projection and would you like to see it curtailed in some fashion?
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kidkoma
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.02.27 08:24:00 -
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Gorski Car is a good dude, I've spent a lot of time chasing him around Barley/getting killed by him. In my experience, he's always down to give fitting/fighting advice. We could do a lot worse in a CSM candidate.
I want cake. Can you make it happen? |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
244
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:53:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote: Do you see problems with power projection and would you like to see it curtailed in some fashion?
I have been taking some time to think about this question since it is a big question with no easy answer and it seems to be one of the major points for many people running for CSM.
I understand that it is a problem for smaller groups to ever take moons or pocos without a carrier blob arriving as soon as the cyno alt is in place. With that said it is not impossible for newer groups to take assets from bigger guys. Brave newbies managed to grab two r64s from us for example.
I think titan bridges and jump bridges are a problem and that they make most of 0.0 dead since there is no reason to actually go from system to system if you want to get to somewhere. You just warp to the bridge and instantly appear 15jumps away.
The solution to this problem is not easy and you can't just straight up nerf the titan bridge for example since that's one of the main use of that ship.
I suggest you read through http://marlonasky.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/cancers-of-eve-online-teleportation/
Something like this is a good idea.
As for cake, find me at fanfest and I am sure we can make something happen. But only if you share. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Paul Tsukaya
Tsukaya Light Industries
73
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:00:00 -
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Could you clarify your position on links and command ships on station?
Should activating warfare links give you aggression? Yes or no? |
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:15:00 -
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Paul Tsukaya wrote:Could you clarify your position on links and command ships on station?
Should activating warfare links give you aggression? Yes or no?
Yes very much yes. They provide far to big of a boost at no risk on stations. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
99
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:19:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Paul Tsukaya wrote:Could you clarify your position on links and command ships on station?
Should activating warfare links give you aggression? Yes or no? Yes very much yes. They provide far to big of a boost at no risk on stations.
This one change would be huge for low sec / Faction Warfare.
One of my corpmates proposed increasing the activation range for acceleration gates to 2500m from the current 2000m. It was apparently reduced in an Inferno 1.1 patch to help with a bug for cloaked ships docking / jumping.
Increasing the activation range would let cloaked boats (recons, stealth bombers, cov ops, and the SoE ships) activate the gates while remaining cloaked. This would allow us to better hunt FW farmers, as well as those running DED sites and missions.
What are your thoughts on the feasibility / advisability of such a change? |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:27:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:Gorski Car wrote:Paul Tsukaya wrote:Could you clarify your position on links and command ships on station?
Should activating warfare links give you aggression? Yes or no? Yes very much yes. They provide far to big of a boost at no risk on stations. This one change would be huge for low sec / Faction Warfare. One of my corpmates proposed increasing the activation range for acceleration gates to 2500m from the current 2000m. It was apparently reduced in an Inferno 1.1 patch to help with a bug for cloaked ships docking / jumping. Increasing the activation range would let cloaked boats (recons, stealth bombers, cov ops, and the SoE ships) activate the gates while remaining cloaked. This would allow us to better hunt FW farmers, as well as those running DED sites and missions. What are your thoughts on the feasibility / advisability of such a change?
I do not see a problem with changing the acceleration gates to do something like this. I think this might be a good solution to farmer pigs without actually removing the ability to farm plexes. A Astero with double scrams would be pretty deadly for them. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Colt Blackhawk
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
269
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:43:00 -
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I hope this is a bad joke^^ Gorski Car telling us his stories about his big fw experience and solo pvp. Rofl. I remember you were one of the biggest link abusers in game. So no you and 2 links vs another guy is not solo. And yes we all remember "I didn-Št want that titan anyway". Whole amarr militia wants to see you dead. And from what I know a lot of calmil too^^ Biggest joke ever. [09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks. |
Anope
Origin. Black Legion.
37
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:00:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:I hope this is a bad joke^^ Gorski Car telling us his stories about his big fw experience and solo pvp. Rofl. I remember you were one of the biggest link abusers in game. So no you and 2 links vs another guy is not solo. And yes we all remember "I didn-Št want that titan anyway". Whole amarr militia wants to see you dead. And from what I know a lot of calmil too^^ Biggest joke ever.
There is no such thing as abusing links.... he took an available mechanic and used it to his advantage like almost every single solo PVPer. That's like saying I abused mechanics in cap fights by refitting before everyone did it... shame on me for using a built in mechanic that gives you an advantage. You are bad and you should feel bad, Based Gorski is a legend. And besides all of militia is linked up the ass in every fight they use to perma run 3 links in every system before the POS change. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:39:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote: Gorski Car telling us his stories about his big fw experience and solo pvp. Rofl. I remember you were one of the biggest link abusers in game. So no you and 2 links vs another guy is not solo. And yes we all remember "I didn-Št want that titan anyway". Whole amarr militia wants to see you dead. And from what I know a lot of calmil too^^
Then you understand that I am very experienced with the subject and that my thoughts on balancing links are good. I almost consider it a achievement that two militias want me dead because I farmed them so much. But hey what can you do not everyone can like everyone. And trust me I hate hauling a stupid slow link alt along just to "get even" with a established militia who has a pos in every system with a link alt in it + a open fleet.
What good players do in eve is they figure out what is overpowered or good and abuse the **** out of it until CCP changes it. Just look at Ishtars and Geretics now for example. That's what I consider good at eve, being able to identify what is good and fast then abuse it. There is nothing wrong with using stuff that is in the game to your advantage no matter how dishonorable or how hard it is violating some made up rules about space honor. There is no such thing, only dead ships from people trying to force their view on the sandbox upon others.
May my leviathan rip in peace don't bring up dead relatives.
ps it's not a joke. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Rahelis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
33
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:26:00 -
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Gorski is not a bad joke - he has no clue about what he is writing here.
Gorski is a ganker - not a solo pvp guy - there is a differnce between the two.
And he admits it.
If you want ppl to fight - especially new players - then you have to make links on grid. Better remove them as a whole, because links violate everything eve anounces as game mechanic - risk and gain.
Flagging links is useless - if links could be hit noone would use them.
I understand that links generate income for ccp - so they have to decide - more gorski style ganking or new players fighting and having fun in low sec. In the long run new players will make more income for ccp that more gorskis.
Gorskis only bully new players out of the game.
Remove titan bridges and jump freighters - and there will be a small scale economic in eve.
Most players in eve live in high sec. Some do live in low sec - and I agree - living in low sec means low income. Change that and ppl will live in low sec and fight for it. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:45:00 -
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Rahelis wrote:Gorski is not a bad joke - he has no clue about what he is writing here.
Gorski is a ganker - not a solo pvp guy - there is a differnce between the two.
And he admits it.
If you want ppl to fight - especially new players - then you have to make links on grid. Better remove them as a whole, because links violate everything eve anounces as game mechanic - risk and gain.
Flagging links is useless - if links could be hit noone would use them.
I understand that links generate income for ccp - so they have to decide - more gorski style ganking or new players fighting and having fun in low sec. In the long run new players will make more income for ccp that more gorskis.
I never said anything about being for or against links being on grid just that they need to change them drastically if they want them to be ongrid. I then posted a bunch of suggestions about how this would be done (t2 destroyers with links, easier to fit links on bcs, remove mindlinks, let more then 3 ships provide links). And please don't try to call me out on not solo pvp:ing. I do that lal the time both with and without links.
I do not support removing links at all I think they are a interesting mechanic that needs some fixing. Especially if they were on grid. Please do not tell me about risk and gain of using link boats. They are not some unkillable mythical beast sitting at a safe. The only way to have a unkillable linkboat right now is to have a command ship on station and I think that is wrong. There are many people who effectively probe down and kill linking t3s in space. It takes some skill and distraction though.
Saying that no one would use links if they could be hit is pretty stupid while at the same time wanting them to be ongrid. Having a Command ship on grid with a smaller hac fleet with logi could be really good as it is really tanky and a good platform to fc from since you wont be targeted and killed instantly. It also removes the need for fcs to multibox link alts and keep a eye on all of them.
Trust me just simply removing link alts will not be enough. All those tengu link alts are a couple of days away from being in a falcon or a logistics ship and that will suck even harder. There are ways to kill a linked target while unlinked but there is almost no chance of doing that vs a target + falcon/logi. More people = more power. Link alts are just a easy way to get two pilots of power without having to multibox. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Omega Crendraven
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
157
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:52:00 -
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I support gorski style ganking )) [ xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx } ] HISEC / NULLSEC / LOWSEC Mercenary Alliance |
Rahelis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
33
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:52:00 -
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Falcon and logi - welcome to fleet fights.
That is not solo pvp - and links are no solo pvp.
We agree that links on grid belong to a fleet fight.
Eve is a team game in the first place.
What you do, Gorski, is killing ppls interest in the game. Like all gankers do.
If you understand that - then maybe CCPs understands it as well. |
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Paul Tsukaya
Tsukaya Light Industries
74
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:54:00 -
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Based on sheer volume and variety of PvP experiance, I'd say Gorski is easily the most qualified guy running for CSM to give CCP feedback on ship balance.
For instance it's easy to give an opinion on the state of light missiles and rapid light missile launchers, but Gorski has over 900 kills with light missiles. That is the sort of ear to the ground guy I trust to represent my interests on the CSM. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
290
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:51:00 -
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all my questions are FW based.
What are you going to do to bring back battlecruiser's to lowsec? would you propose to bring back the battlecruiser size plexs for faction warfare? (restricting t1 and faction bc's only so that the new faction battlecruiser can have a place to shine, instead of shining in your hanger)
What about the FW cyno jammer that was supposed to be implemented for FW but never was? many of us still want to fight in battleships, fight for bunkers without getting mega mode hot dropped by 60 PL dreads.
how do you feel that FW has become about the t2 ships now instead of the faction ships. ages ago faction warfare's highest ship tier allowed in a certain plex size was the navy faction. and now t2 ships are allowed in every plex and clear advantage can be seen.
What are you going to about cross militia plexing?
will have more for you gorski. |
Colt Blackhawk
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
269
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Posted - 2014.02.27 22:11:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote: Gorski Car telling us his stories about his big fw experience and solo pvp. Rofl. I remember you were one of the biggest link abusers in game. So no you and 2 links vs another guy is not solo. And yes we all remember "I didn-Št want that titan anyway". Whole amarr militia wants to see you dead. And from what I know a lot of calmil too^^
Then you understand that I am very experienced with the subject and that my thoughts on balancing links are good. I almost consider it a achievement that two militias want me dead because I farmed them so much. But hey what can you do not everyone can like everyone. And trust me I hate hauling a stupid slow link alt along just to "get even" with a established militia who has a pos in every system with a link alt in it + a open fleet. What good players do in eve is they figure out what is overpowered or good and abuse the **** out of it until CCP changes it. Just look at Ishtars and Geretics now for example. That's what I consider good at eve, being able to identify what is good and fast then abuse it. There is nothing wrong with using stuff that is in the game to your advantage no matter how dishonorable or how hard it is violating some made up rules about space honor. There is no such thing, only dead ships from people trying to force their view on the sandbox upon others. May my leviathan rip in peace don't bring up dead relatives. ps it's not a joke.
If I wanted links I could buy me a booster toon. I could afford it immediately. But sorry I simply don-Št want to make this game a job. One account and 1 boxing is okay. I really don-Št want to run 2 accounts at a time because CCP broke it to hell that solo is almost undoable without having 2 accounts. Sorry but I am not nerdish enough for it. Btw I could prolly even afford 2 booster toons :P And your fw experience is abusing **** out of hell. A damn 25 day old noob could kill almost everything or tackle until dt with crow or condor with 2 ogb. Grats^^ You need a lot piloting skill for it. [09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks. |
BBQ FTW
The Hatchery Team Liquid
116
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:18:00 -
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yes I am very glad we all now know how many booster alts you can afford |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
475
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:56:00 -
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oh god here we go again Proud Member of 'The HotPocket' Crew. What It's Like in Militia Chat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYm3ig7tak |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:55:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:all my questions are FW based.
What are you going to do to bring back battlecruiser's to lowsec? would you propose to bring back the battlecruiser size plexs for faction warfare? (restricting t1 and faction bc's only so that the new faction battlecruiser can have a place to shine, instead of shining in your hanger)
What about the FW cyno jammer that was supposed to be implemented for FW but never was? many of us still want to fight in battleships, fight for bunkers without getting mega mode hot dropped by 60 PL dreads.
how do you feel that FW has become about the t2 ships now instead of the faction ships. ages ago faction warfare's highest ship tier allowed in a certain plex size was the navy faction. and now t2 ships are allowed in every plex and clear advantage can be seen.
What are you going to about cross militia plexing?
will have more for you gorski.
Re Faction battlecruisers
I really agree that they are in a bad spot at the moment and that's not just in Faction warfare space. I think their main problem is that they are not cost effective at all. A hurricane Fleet issue is around 140m isk and for 20m more you can get a ishtar and enjoy a ship with overall better stats for everything. I don't see how FW would hurt from a battlecruiser and down plex and I think that could be fun.
Re hotdrops
I think you are overestimating PL:s ability to react. We can not form a 60 pl dread fleet in 2 minutes for a fight on a bunker unless we were tipped off from the start and then you got bigger problems to worry about. You already got the mobile cyno jammers. Maybe you could use those.
On t2 ships
The novice plexes are still faction frig and down. I actually think the plex sizes are kinda balanced at the moment. A small plex that allows t2 ships also allows destroyers and a well piloted destroyer can take down a t2 ship without much of a problem. I also think there are ways to counterfit your faction frigs (and t1 frigs) to counter t2 frigs. I don't really agree with the t2 ship advantage. They are slow use that against them.
The only thing I might consider a bit problematic is that you allow t2 cruisers in medium plexes. All in all FW would benefit from a larger sized plex that allows them + bcs.
#GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
291
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:31:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Re Faction battlecruisers I really agree that they are in a bad spot at the moment and that's not just in Faction warfare space. I think their main problem is that they are not cost effective at all. A hurricane Fleet issue is around 140m isk and for 20m more you can get a ishtar and enjoy a ship with overall better stats for everything. I don't see how FW would hurt from a battlecruiser and down plex and I think that could be fun. Re hotdrops I think you are overestimating PL:s ability to react. We can not form a 60 pl dread fleet in 2 minutes for a fight on a bunker unless we were tipped off from the start and then you got bigger problems to worry about. You already got the mobile cyno jammers. Maybe you could use those. On t2 ships The novice plexes are still faction frig and down. I actually think the plex sizes are kinda balanced at the moment. A small plex that allows t2 ships also allows destroyers and a well piloted destroyer can take down a t2 ship without much of a problem. I also think there are ways to counterfit your faction frigs (and t1 frigs) to counter t2 frigs. I don't really agree with the t2 ship advantage. They are slow use that against them. The only thing I might consider a bit problematic is that you allow t2 cruisers in medium plexes. All in all FW would benefit from a larger sized plex that allows them + bcs. Bad spelling punctuation below forgive me
re hot drops Many of us have tried on several occasions to do a standard battleship roam and it never fails to have somebody completely panic and call in whatever entity. PL isnt the only ones that have batphones. The mobile cyno jammer is way to easy to be destroyed by another battleship fleet. and even still it doesnt stop most cap fleets from jumping in only a few km from your fleet. So its only a temporary solution. nothing that was the FW cyno jammer. which was an hour long system wide.
re t2 ships the novice plexs are excellent. they let the faction frigate do their jobs. The small plexs are indeed fun too, and many people wanted t2 destroyers to enter them and ccp granted the request for a small plex with t2 ships. i love the small plexs as well.
however the medium plexs which was originally t1 cruisers and faction cruisers only is now completely dominiated with t2 cruisers, the t1 cruiser re-balance that ccp worked so hard on, and the faction cruiser re-balance almost never get to see uses. t2 cruisers have a complete advantage over t1, as they should they are properly balanced now! Dont have to completely destroy the current medium plex, perhaps at another plex spawn, specifical for faction and t1 cruisers.
As it sits right now, t2 cruisers dominate the mediums and their tanks are nearly unbreakable except with gangs of equal size or greater(in most cases) the fighting in mediums doesnt happen very often. adding or changing the medium the plex for t1 and faction cruiser, because of the meer price tag alone i can guarantee more pvp will be had because alot more people are willing to suicide cheap ships rather than expensive ones.
Re big plex
as for the proposed battlecruiser plex id love to have it back! and make it t1 and faction bc down. the last time the major plex existed ccp let tech 3 cruisers in and completely forgot to let command ships in majors. So what would be your choice gorski? would you add a major plex with t1 and faction bc for gf's? add a major that allows big isk sinked ships in like command ships and tech 3's? or add both because more pvp chances!
what about considering a battleship plex? (for obvious reasons no capitals can enter. and t2 cruiser logi isnt that effective so it would mostly be about having a good brawl) |
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ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
117
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:37:00 -
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Greetings
Lets remember to keep the discussion on topic an civil.
On On ISD Flidais Asagiri Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
245
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:56:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Gorski Car wrote:Re Faction battlecruisers I really agree that they are in a bad spot at the moment and that's not just in Faction warfare space. I think their main problem is that they are not cost effective at all. A hurricane Fleet issue is around 140m isk and for 20m more you can get a ishtar and enjoy a ship with overall better stats for everything. I don't see how FW would hurt from a battlecruiser and down plex and I think that could be fun. Re hotdrops I think you are overestimating PL:s ability to react. We can not form a 60 pl dread fleet in 2 minutes for a fight on a bunker unless we were tipped off from the start and then you got bigger problems to worry about. You already got the mobile cyno jammers. Maybe you could use those. On t2 ships The novice plexes are still faction frig and down. I actually think the plex sizes are kinda balanced at the moment. A small plex that allows t2 ships also allows destroyers and a well piloted destroyer can take down a t2 ship without much of a problem. I also think there are ways to counterfit your faction frigs (and t1 frigs) to counter t2 frigs. I don't really agree with the t2 ship advantage. They are slow use that against them. The only thing I might consider a bit problematic is that you allow t2 cruisers in medium plexes. All in all FW would benefit from a larger sized plex that allows them + bcs. Bad spelling punctuation below forgive me re hot drops Many of us have tried on several occasions to do a standard battleship roam and it never fails to have somebody completely panic and call in whatever entity. PL isnt the only ones that have batphones. The mobile cyno jammer is way to easy to be destroyed by another battleship fleet. and even still it doesnt stop most cap fleets from jumping in only a few km from your fleet. So its only a temporary solution. nothing that was the FW cyno jammer. which was an hour long system wide. re t2 ships the novice plexs are excellent. they let the faction frigate do their jobs. The small plexs are indeed fun too, and many people wanted t2 destroyers to enter them and ccp granted the request for a small plex with t2 ships. i love the small plexs as well. however the medium plexs which was originally t1 cruisers and faction cruisers only is now completely dominiated with t2 cruisers, the t1 cruiser re-balance that ccp worked so hard on, and the faction cruiser re-balance almost never get to see uses. t2 cruisers have a complete advantage over t1, as they should they are properly balanced now! Dont have to completely destroy the current medium plex, perhaps add another plex spawn, specifically for faction and t1 cruisers. As it sits right now, t2 cruisers dominate the mediums and their tanks are nearly unbreakable except with gangs of equal size or greater(in most cases) the fighting in mediums doesnt happen very often. adding or changing the medium the plex for t1 and faction cruiser, because of the meer price tag alone i can guarantee more pvp will be had because alot more people are willing to suicide cheap ships rather than expensive ones. Re big plex as for the proposed battlecruiser plex id love to have it back! and make it t1 and faction bc down. the last time the major plex existed ccp let tech 3 cruisers in and completely forgot to let command ships in majors. So what would be your choice gorski? would you add a major plex with t1 and faction bc for gf's? add a major that allows big isk sinked ships in like command ships and tech 3's? or add both because more pvp chances! what about considering a battleship plex? (for obvious reasons no capitals can enter. and t2 cruiser logi isnt that effective so it would mostly be about having a good brawl)
I understand the need for bigger plexes and a system like this would be better then what we have now. I guess there are some people that will argue that restricting shipsizes is restricting the sandbox but I don't really agree. I think that the fw plexes has done way more good for this game and the state of lowsec fw pvp.
Beginner plex: t1 frigs, faction frigs. 10k lp Small plex: t2 frigs, t2 destroyers. 15k lp Medium plex: t1 cruisers. 20k lp Large plex: t2 cruisers, battlecruisers. 25k lp Huge plex: All sub caps 30k lp Ungated plexes. 30k lp
And make the rat hard inside them. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:59:00 -
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Quote:Links currently gives your gang a larger engagement profile and helps you take fights that you would not have taken otherwise. It helps small gangs fight bigger gangs and trade somewhat even.
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