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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3311
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:46:00 -
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As of 10:30 UTC, Tranquility is currently undergoing a DDoS attack that has knocked players offline and is preventing them from reconnecting to the server. We are currently investigating the attack and implementing countermeasures. We apologize for the inconvenience this may be causing players and hope to have functionality restored as soon as possible. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Garia666
CyberShield Inc Triumvirate.
66
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:48:00 -
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? where is my post... . Anyway this has been going on for 2 weeks now.. glad you finaly found what the problem is.. i hope you solve it quickly.. |
Flock Master
Insane Shadow Boxers
1
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:49:00 -
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ships will be reimbursed? |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1188
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:51:00 -
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To arms fellow capsuleers, let us hunt down and rain down hellfire and brimstone upon the ddosers ! This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3311
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:51:00 -
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Flock Master wrote:ships will be reimbursed?
If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Nimrodion
Globaltech Industries Yulai Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:53:00 -
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Poor hamsters |
ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:54:00 -
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Free SP! |
drummendejef maaktnietuit
Active Fusion Cold Fusion.
5
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:54:00 -
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Let's set up a fleet to attack those DDoSers. We need Ewar and alot of logi's!
I have the feeling the forum is also slower then normal. (DDoS using the bandwith?) |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
468
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:55:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. Don't make promises that might not be kept...
eve-bazaar - I'm not associated with them, but support it as a worthwhile service |
Tripden
Modern Ancient Virtual Reality
2
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:55:00 -
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Cyber Interpol SCi Police is about to investigate this fact, and its belived this atak come from Asia
wait time will not be so long.
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Bakuhz
Comando Imperiale
140
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:56:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Flock Master wrote:ships will be reimbursed? If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed.
how about running out of time for a cosmos or storyline missions losing alot of faction standings? http://rakah.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=%3CBakuhz
Recruiting PvP minded pilot's new pilot friendly teachers available in various timezones |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3312
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Posted - 2014.02.28 10:59:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. Don't make promises that might not be kept...
It's standard procedure to reimburse things lost during DDoS's and other confirmed server problems. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3312
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:00:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Flock Master wrote:ships will be reimbursed? If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. how about running out of time for a cosmos or storyline missions losing alot of faction standings?
You'll have to file a ticket. I'm unsure on the exact policy regarding this, but we tend to show leeway in these cases. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Rastafarian God
30
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:00:00 -
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Ahhh. thank you for the info. Please disregard the thread I created about this. I did not see the threads about this until after posting. Probably because of said issue maybe.
I had a feeling this is what was happening. I find it weird that EVE has been having this problem. Well, I dont at the same time. It doesn't surprise me that a group of computer savy people could get butt hurt in eve lol. Although a DDOS is really easy to do so "savy" might be a little to ego stroking on there part.
Hopefully some gifted programmer finds a way to negate massive ping requests from a command prompt from several sources and this will be a thing of the past before long.
Thankfully the clients that I had open at the time where aggro free and salvaging on a gate in mission space when this happened. I can feel for anyone that lost anything. But now that CCP has reaffirmed this issue, Im sure things wil be taken care of. they are pretty good about that.
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Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
391
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:01:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Flock Master wrote:ships will be reimbursed? If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. how about running out of time for a cosmos or storyline missions losing alot of faction standings? Oh god, you people. Not finishing a mission or losing a ship you willingly undocked is the end of the world now?
HTFU |
Claud Tiberius
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
11
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:03:00 -
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CCP, you need to start training up your Sensor Compensation skills. Maybe add a Sensor Backup Array? Use a bigger ship.... :) |
Rex Pain
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:04:00 -
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Please sticky a post regarding the outtake that everyone can find/follow with ease.
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Japsert
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:05:00 -
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Rex Pain wrote:Please sticky a post regarding the outtake that everyone can find/follow with ease.
^^ |
Bakuhz
Comando Imperiale
140
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:05:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Bakuhz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Flock Master wrote:ships will be reimbursed? If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. how about running out of time for a cosmos or storyline missions losing alot of faction standings? Oh god, you people. Not finishing a mission or losing a ship you willingly undocked is the end of the world now? HTFU
silly little bee here is a lollypop http://i.imgur.com/Ivek1b5.jpg http://rakah.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=%3CBakuhz
Recruiting PvP minded pilot's new pilot friendly teachers available in various timezones |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2859
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:05:00 -
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Should have fitted a ECCM on the servers. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
353
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:06:00 -
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Time for a Jovian ECCM module to be installed. |
Bakuhz
Comando Imperiale
140
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:07:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Should have fitted a ECCM on the servers.
It must be the new Guristas Force Recon then
http://rakah.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=%3CBakuhz
Recruiting PvP minded pilot's new pilot friendly teachers available in various timezones |
djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
152
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:08:00 -
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Rastafarian God wrote:
Hopefully some gifted programmer finds a way to negate massive ping requests from a command prompt from several sources and this will be a thing of the past before long.
I think you will find it is a lot more complex then that. A bunch of clients sending pings does not a successful DDOS make. To take out servers the size of TQ - we are talking about huge botnet attacks. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2859
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:08:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Should have fitted a ECCM on the servers. It must be the new Guristas Force Recon then
I can only imagine it's the response to the announcement of the ewar nerf. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:10:00 -
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I knew it! Damn DDoS crowd. Grrrrr! |
Hakaari Uisen
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:10:00 -
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At least I know it wasn't just me!
Some people just don't have lives do they? :) |
Fumb
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
3
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:10:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Should have fitted a ECCM on the servers. It must be the new Guristas Force Recon then
They should get Dust and Valkyrie to fit remote ECCM.. |
Gaming God
Boterkuipje 12
57
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:11:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:As of 10:30 UTC, Tranquility is currently undergoing a DDoS attack that has knocked players offline and is preventing them from reconnecting to the server. We are currently investigating the attack and implementing countermeasures. We apologize for the inconvenience this may be causing players and hope to have functionality restored as soon as possible.
Just google on UNDER ATTACK OF DDOS and you wil find a rappid solution .
Link
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Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
83
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:12:00 -
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glad to know you admit there's a problem.
and gl in the fight WTS BPO : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307169 |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3313
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:13:00 -
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Rex Pain wrote:Please sticky a post regarding the outtake that everyone can find/follow with ease.
Oops! It was supposed to be stickied, but I guess due to the forum going down momentarily, it didn't stick (wakka wakka). EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:13:00 -
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Hakaari Uisen wrote:At least I know it wasn't just me!
Some people just don't have lives do they? :) Indeed we don't have a life, otherwise we wouldn't be trying to log on to EVE, would we? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11196
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:13:00 -
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Keep up the good work
/c
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Yarda Black
Epidemic. Psychosomatic.
57
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:13:00 -
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Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3313
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:15:00 -
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It seems the DDoS has stopped and we are currently in our regularly scheduled downtime. We'll continue to monitor things as we bring the server back online. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
477
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:16:00 -
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ECM too strong |
Claud Tiberius
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
13
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:17:00 -
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Almethea wrote:glad to know you admit there's a problem.
and gl in the fight Why wouldn't they admit there is a problem? |
aniel
nemesis 2.0 Mildly Intoxicated
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:18:00 -
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\o/ |
Hakaari Uisen
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:20:00 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Hakaari Uisen wrote:At least I know it wasn't just me!
Some people just don't have lives do they? :) Indeed we don't have a life, otherwise we wouldn't be trying to log on to EVE, would we?
I have a life, it's just within EVE lol :) |
Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
83
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:22:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:Almethea wrote:glad to know you admit there's a problem.
and gl in the fight Why wouldn't they admit there is a problem?
since at least one month (may be more) there's massive dc or socket error without a word WTS BPO : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307169 |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3315
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:22:00 -
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The server's back online from its regular downtime. We will continue to monitor the situation for further DDoS attacks. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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GM Spiral
Game Masters C C P Alliance
182
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:22:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:You'll have to file a ticket. I'm unsure on the exact policy regarding this, but we tend to show leeway in these cases.
- We'll be able to reverse any standings penalties attributed to the DDoS.
- We'll also be able to reset any lost/failed COSMOS, storyline, or Epic Arc missions so you'll have a fair shot at doing them again.
- Asset reimbursement for losses attributable to the DDoS will be strongly considered.
We apologize up front for any delays in responding to tickets submitted due to this, but we assure you that all will be responded to. Senior Game Master | CCP Games Customer Support Team
Helping capsuleers since 2004. |
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Anhammerad
Octaphonium
7
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:23:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
Install a good third party firewall that shows and allows control of incoming and outgoing connections, outbound filtering is what you need to have control over.
Mac: I use 'Little Snitch' Windows ? maybe a windows user can suggest a good one...
Outbound filtering FTW |
Daenna Chrysi
Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal
96
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:23:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:It seems the DDoS has stopped and we are currently in our regularly scheduled downtime. We'll continue to monitor things as we bring the server back online.
I am getting a funny feeling the attack was done by someone who doesnt know about the daily downtimes, I mean if you go through all the trouble of doing such an attack, wouldnt you time it better to make it as efficient as possible? |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
478
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:25:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
there is no way to be 100% sure you are not, but a few basic things can make it higly unlikely.
1- SPI firewalls on network head (modem / modem-router) 2- firewalls on each computer on your local network 3- an up-to-date operating system, with user access control preferably 4- an antivirus software, with real time scanning and comportemental detection, with the latest update ( database and soft, should be done at least once/ day, and a daily quick scan ) this doesn't take more than 5 minutes usually
if you also are carefull about the websites you visits and the mail you receive (especially the atached content), there is very little risk.
now, there is still the possibility of a worm using 0-days but tbh, not much one can easily do in that regard.
if you are in doubt, it could also be a good idea to run a scan from an external OS (CD-rom / usb boot device) to ensure from an external POV the system is clean, this can help getting rid / ensuring there are no threats that would have disabled your antivirus |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
479
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:29:00 -
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Daenna Chrysi wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:It seems the DDoS has stopped and we are currently in our regularly scheduled downtime. We'll continue to monitor things as we bring the server back online. I am getting a funny feeling the attack was done by someone who doesnt know about the daily downtimes, I mean if you go through all the trouble of doing such an attack, wouldnt you time it better to make it as efficient as possible? or this could be a test run, and the attack will resume after the servers are back
anyway good luck to CCP and the hamsters, not fun for us, but definitely not fun for them either! |
Murdock4711
Ventus Inhumanum
1
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:35:00 -
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Just logged in, everything seemed to be normal, but then all of a sudden "socket closed" message. I have a feeling that it is not over yet..... |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
479
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:36:00 -
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Anhammerad wrote:Yarda Black wrote:Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
Install a good third party firewall that shows and allows control of incoming and outgoing connections, outbound filtering is what you need to have control over. Mac: I use 'Little Snitch' Windows ? maybe a windows user can suggest a good one... Outbound filtering FTW the integrated windows firewall can do that, but not using the default settings, you need to get your hands under the hood a bit.
see: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/ac125536-37eb-44cf-ab4c-1ebd31cead2a/windows-7-firewall-outgoing-configuration?forum=w7itprosecurity
also, there are many 3rd party firewalls, able to do this.
but i shall warn that before installing or blocking outbound connections, one should know what he is doing.
unlike the other advice i gave a few post earlier, you could endup with non working softwares (or no network access AT ALL), and if you don't know how to configure firewalls, it an be a pain in the rear to solve the issue, so i would recommend it only if you have basic knwoledge regarding firewalls and networks |
Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:43:00 -
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Anhammerad wrote:Yarda Black wrote:Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
Install a good third party firewall that shows and allows control of incoming and outgoing connections, outbound filtering is what you need to have control over. Mac: I use 'Little Snitch' Windows ? maybe a windows user can suggest a good one... Outbound filtering FTW I use the Comodo toolset on Windows and I like it a lot. It has Firewall, Virusscan, Sandbox mode and other stuff for free. Also no annoying advertisement yet.
It shows in and outbound traffic in a very easy to understand way. However, with any third party firewall, you may run into issues when hosting/joining peer-to-peer games. Sometimes you may have to disable the firewall or put it into gaming mode. |
Casandra Elise McIntire
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:48:00 -
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Just wanted to state 10:30 eve time is a bit off, myself and others I am/was on comms with started having issues closer to 10:15 eve time, starting with disconnects and then inability to log in. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:59:00 -
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Rastafarian God wrote:Hopefully some gifted programmer finds a way to negate massive ping requests from a command prompt from several sources and this will be a thing of the past before long.
What year is it?
ICMP Echo (i.e. ping) floods are quite uncommon and rare these days.
Most DDoS attacks comprise of SYN Floods.
The latest and greatest in DDoS is that the script kiddies (i.e. noobs) have finally realised the potential for "amplification attacks" using NTP or DNS. The DNS Amplification attack is quite old, but since there are a lot of open resolvers on the Internet it still works. These typically range from a few Gbps up to 100-200Gbps.
The NTP Reflection/Amplification attack is considered "new" as it has been in the news recently, hitting targets with 400Gbps. (CloudFlare)
It should be noted that after the Open NTP Server Project went live, around 80% of open NTP servers are now not usable in this kind of amplification DDoS attack.
Tailoring a DoS attack against a specific type of service, is also common (but not as common as SYN floods). See "slowloris denial of service". (Slowloris most likely not the problem in this case.)
Last but not least, NTP and DNS Amplification attacks are hard to track/"triangulate", because the attacker sends a small spoofed packet where the source IP points to the target. It is known that some of these people performing DoS are quite often juveniles. The largest provider of DoS services are generally Russian. (Sorry, but that's generally the image in the community. That doesn't mean they choose the targets though.)
Anyway, I hope CCP finds a viable solution as DDoS'ing an online game is just plain annoying and stupid. Keep in mind some DDoS attacks are meant to cover other types of attacks, and I hope CCP will check their payment system for any suspicious activity as I'd rather not have any of my details disclosed despite that I don't use my credit card with EVE. |
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Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:06:00 -
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Gaming God wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:As of 10:30 UTC, Tranquility is currently undergoing a DDoS attack that has knocked players offline and is preventing them from reconnecting to the server. We are currently investigating the attack and implementing countermeasures. We apologize for the inconvenience this may be causing players and hope to have functionality restored as soon as possible. Just google on UNDER ATTACK OF DDOS and you wil find a rappid solution . Link
I already recommended them to contact Prolexic. If their server is hosted in the UK, the attack could've originated from Romania: http://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&time=16129&view=map
Bandwidth: 247Mbps
If this is the attack, it's relatively small to some of the recent attacks.
To compare: 247Mbps == 0.25Gbps
Recent attack on CloudFlare: 400Gbps. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:08:00 -
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Anhammerad wrote:Yarda Black wrote:Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
Install a good third party firewall that shows and allows control of incoming and outgoing connections, outbound filtering is what you need to have control over. Mac: I use 'Little Snitch' Windows ? maybe a windows user can suggest a good one... Outbound filtering FTW
Hahaha one single firewall will break down if it only has 100Mbps available and a DDoS attack is 110Mbps'ish. You need something far more powerful than a "good firewall". |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
479
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:28:00 -
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Haansu Mikairu wrote:Anhammerad wrote:Yarda Black wrote:Is there a way to figure out if your computer is enslaved into a bot network?
I run virusscans alot and I just ran one again cos I thought it was just little old me having the problem. I dont have virusses or, spyware or other unhealthy stuff going on it seems. Does that mean I'm not infected and thus not part of the botnetwork?
Install a good third party firewall that shows and allows control of incoming and outgoing connections, outbound filtering is what you need to have control over. Mac: I use 'Little Snitch' Windows ? maybe a windows user can suggest a good one... Outbound filtering FTW Hahaha one single firewall will break down if it only has 100Mbps available and a DDoS attack is 110Mbps'ish. You need something far more powerful than a "good firewall". FYI filtering outbound SYN/ACK packets during a DDoS will still overwhelm the server. Plus you could easily lock out legitimate clients. Let's just not hope the root cause was this: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/member-of-anonymous-takes-credit-for-godaddy-attack/ tbh, it is very unlikely that one be victim of DDOS as a player, and a DDOS attack on a specific person using a regular consumer connection, will drop it, whatever the hardware behind it.
when you see how the cost scale, no point investing in DDOs resistant hardware unless you are a company |
Gary Bell
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
119
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:37:00 -
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Tinfoil On..
What if..
Chribba added bot software to all his sites..
Eveboard..
Dotlan..
and Omg
EFT..
and Pyfa..
WE ARE DDOS OURSELVES
AHHHHHHH |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
479
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:52:00 -
[55] - Quote
Gary Bell wrote:Tinfoil On..
What if..
Chribba added bot software to all his sites..
Eveboard..
Dotlan..
and Omg
EFT..
and Pyfa..
WE ARE DDOS OURSELVES
AHHHHHHH would be the best troll ever tbh |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
212
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:08:00 -
[56] - Quote
Guldarn Rumaniens jess won't stop invading the UK! I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:10:00 -
[57] - Quote
Gary Bell wrote:Tinfoil On..
What if..
Chribba added bot software to all his sites..
Eveboard..
Dotlan..
and Omg
EFT..
and Pyfa..
WE ARE DDOS OURSELVES
AHHHHHHH
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Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Gary Bell wrote:Tinfoil On..
Dotlan is not from Chribba but Wollari. EFT and Pyfa are also not related to Chribba.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:04:00 -
[59] - Quote
Whew....
As long as my Ibis is reimbursed I'm good... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:31:00 -
[60] - Quote
I'd like to point out to the DEVS that stating all ships lost during a DDoS attack might be a bad move.
What if the loosing side in B-R decided to DDoS the server as "all ships lost during server issues are reimbursed"
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
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okst666
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
259
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:30:00 -
[61] - Quote
server is kicking members again :( [X] < Nail here for new monitor |
Vipre Morte
Team JK
94
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:31:00 -
[62] - Quote
I just experienced a few minutes of socket errors in the middle of a mission. Nothing lost, just was able to get back in. This is just an FYI there are still issues. |
Ruttuturpa Garemoko
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:31:00 -
[63] - Quote
Whole corp just dropped from game, one by one, can't reconnect. Is the ddos happening again? |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster Advent of Fate
131
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:31:00 -
[64] - Quote
Round II of DDOS ? |
GS Armada
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
0
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:32:00 -
[65] - Quote
sure as soon as i get home they ddos again. |
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
26
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:33:00 -
[66] - Quote
Happening again? |
Skywalker
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
69
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:34:00 -
[67] - Quote
got problems also |
Sir Gankal0t
Fortuna Heavy Industries Viral Society
16
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:40:00 -
[68] - Quote
Me also im dropped again around 10 mins ago
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Admiral Finkus
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:42:00 -
[69] - Quote
Dropped me and about half of local too. I got back in, but lag made the game pretty much unplayable. DDOSes suck. |
James Tzashi
Kayote Front
10
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:42:00 -
[70] - Quote
are we getting a full reimbursement? doing incursions if you cant recover any of the loot |
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Djana Libra
DAB The Unthinkables
349
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:47:00 -
[71] - Quote
James Tzashi wrote:are we getting a full reimbursement? doing incursions if you cant recover any of the loot
lol really....
ur not getting anything. |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition
242
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:48:00 -
[72] - Quote
+1 got dropped on multiple accounts, nothing lost but it is fairly annoying Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1053
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:56:00 -
[73] - Quote
Half or my shield tanked BS armor was gone, who stepped on the hamster? _¦Å-æ-»¦Ñ¦¼-Ä_-¢-å¦ä_-½-»-å¦ÿ-ò-û¦¦ |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
16853
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 21:09:00 -
[74] - Quote
Lost a ship to whatever caused the disconnect at approx 20:30 PM. Out of interest what's the timescale on reimbursements? |
Vageena Clatoris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 21:10:00 -
[75] - Quote
all you people expecting reimbursements ? hahahahahaa good one |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
16853
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 21:15:00 -
[76] - Quote
Vageena Clatoris wrote:all you people expecting reimbursements ? hahahahahaa good one Not expecting, hoping. The server dropped a shitton of connections so the problem isn't our end, it's at CCPs end and they generally reimburse for things like DDOS's.
If they reimburse me then yay, if not then I can live with it, because I didn't lose anything I couldn't afford to. |
Vipre Morte
Team JK
95
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 21:47:00 -
[77] - Quote
Asking for reimbursements is simply greedy. I'm grateful for what CCP has provided us, and this (probably) isn't their fault.
That said, I don't get many opportunities during my day to play the game. I'm finally giving up for the day and heading back to work, and this session was overall unplayable due to dropped connections. This is something I'm paying for, so I do feel a little upset about the situation.
I just hope this gets resolved soon |
Cigolon
Koopa Troopas Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:10:00 -
[78] - Quote
Vipre Morte wrote:Asking for reimbursements is simply greedy. I'm grateful for what CCP has provided us, and this (probably) isn't their fault.
Anything that interrupts our ability to play from their end is by definition CCP's fault, either through apathy or lack of preparation. That said I'm still not upset about it, CCP cant exactly control what every sad nerd does with their time for jollies. They CAN control what kind of defenses they employ. |
Kappy Ukap
K For Kill
7
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 22:18:00 -
[79] - Quote
Cigolon wrote:Vipre Morte wrote:Asking for reimbursements is simply greedy. I'm grateful for what CCP has provided us, and this (probably) isn't their fault.
Anything that interrupts our ability to play from their end is by definition CCP's fault, either through apathy or lack of preparation. That said I'm still not upset about it, CCP cant exactly control what every sad nerd does with their time for jollies. They CAN control what kind of defenses they employ.
It isn't CCP's fault. Every other MMO gets affected by this, LoL got DDoS'd a few weeks ago as well as Wurm, if it's the same person they are just targeting EVE instead.
You'd have to be happy the entire server isn't down this time however unlike LoL. And really preventing DDoS attacks does involve doing stuff, almost everything can be affected by it. |
Vipre Morte
Team JK
95
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 22:21:00 -
[80] - Quote
Cigolon wrote:Vipre Morte wrote:Asking for reimbursements is simply greedy. I'm grateful for what CCP has provided us, and this (probably) isn't their fault.
Anything that interrupts our ability to play from their end is by definition CCP's fault, either through apathy or lack of preparation. That said I'm still not upset about it, CCP cant exactly control what every sad nerd does with their time for jollies. They CAN control what kind of defenses they employ.
Well it's not necessarily true that they can always prevent every failure.
In this case it sounds like a DDoS attack. Sure, there are services like CloudFlare that are DDoS protections, but they don't work 100% (they increase the amount of traffic a site can take, but not infinitely), and really only works on content like websites, not so much MMO services.
Welcome to the early 21st century Internet. DDoS is a current trend in cybersecurity that does not have a solid solution yet. |
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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
255
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:49:00 -
[81] - Quote
I would not consider it greedy to ask for compensation on something that CCP has said they would compensate just hours earlier in the same thread. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
462
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 23:22:00 -
[82] - Quote
Anna Karhunen wrote:I would not consider it greedy to ask for compensation on something that CCP has said they would compensate just hours earlier in the same thread.
EvE Online EULA:
#11 - 3rd Paragraph.
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. |
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
255
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 23:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
Well, you could have read what CCP Eterne wrote. I'll quote it for your convenience.
CCP Eterne wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. Don't make promises that might not be kept... It's standard procedure to reimburse things lost during DDoS's and other confirmed server problems. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |
Divine Entervention
The Lonetrek Militia Rapidus Incitus Pactum
91
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:30:00 -
[84] - Quote
Guys it's OK that people want to DDOS the server.
To the people DDOSing EVE, it's just a game to them. They are doing it for fun. They are just trying to have fun within the confines of possibility in this game of life we all play by choice.
Since it is an action taking place on the internet, according to you, IT'S NOT REAL! So stop letting yourself become emotionally impacted over interactions that ultimately are not real.
The internet and the interactions you have with people online ARE NOT REAL. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
462
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 23:30:00 -
[85] - Quote
Claud Tiberius wrote:CCP, you need to start training up your Sensor Compensation skills. Maybe add a Sensor Backup Array? Use a bigger ship.... :)
Reverse DDoS perhaps? Use the eve client to target the IP's involved in the DDoS.
A case of fighting fire with fire. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
462
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 23:38:00 -
[86] - Quote
djentropy Ovaert wrote:Rastafarian God wrote:
Hopefully some gifted programmer finds a way to negate massive ping requests from a command prompt from several sources and this will be a thing of the past before long.
I think you will find it is a lot more complex then that. A bunch of clients sending pings does not a successful DDOS make. To take out servers the size of TQ - we are talking about huge botnet attacks.
The new thing that I read behind these DDoS attacks is doing it with NTP requests. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2301
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Posted - 2014.03.01 00:44:00 -
[87] - Quote
Daenna Chrysi wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:It seems the DDoS has stopped and we are currently in our regularly scheduled downtime. We'll continue to monitor things as we bring the server back online. I am getting a funny feeling the attack was done by someone who doesnt know about the daily downtimes, I mean if you go through all the trouble of doing such an attack, wouldnt you time it better to make it as efficient as possible?
More like by some group that DOES know about the daily timezones, and was running a demonstration of their capabilities to CCP. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
54
|
Posted - 2014.03.01 02:25:00 -
[88] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Daenna Chrysi wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:It seems the DDoS has stopped and we are currently in our regularly scheduled downtime. We'll continue to monitor things as we bring the server back online. I am getting a funny feeling the attack was done by someone who doesnt know about the daily downtimes, I mean if you go through all the trouble of doing such an attack, wouldnt you time it better to make it as efficient as possible? More like by some group that DOES know about the daily timezones, and was running a demonstration of their capabilities to CCP.
Some botters think it is because CCP Peligro is too good at his job The Nosy Gamer - Free Wollari!-á Buy your EVE time codes through Dotlan maps! |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.01 10:56:00 -
[89] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Guys it's OK that people want to DDOS the server.
To the people DDOSing EVE, it's just a game to them. They are doing it for fun. They are just trying to have fun within the confines of possibility in this game of life we all play by choice.
Since it is an action taking place on the internet, according to you, IT'S NOT REAL! So stop letting yourself become emotionally impacted over interactions that ultimately are not real.
The internet and the interactions you have with people online ARE NOT REAL.
It is very real. If you attack a SCADA system via the Internet, you may shut down the power of a house, adjust thermometer for a factory, and even damage nuclear centrifuges as seen in the Stuxnet attack. When you DDoS a server, the impact is reflected on real life hardware, and you are not only affecting that hardware, but anyone using that hardware in real life.
If all of your bank accounts got hacked and emptied, all your personal details stolen (including credit cards, email accounts, social security number, private photos, etc.) and misused, would you still not "become emotionally impacted" because it happened over the Internet? Because these things happen every day to some extent. Depending on the type of data of course.
Would you not be "emotionally impacted" if someone spied on you via webcam in e.g. a laptop? (Or as an external device)
Or if you were suddenly locked out from all services you use online because someone had hijacked them?
People (blackhat hackers) on the Internet, even conduct TDoS via relays, which essentially performs a denial of service attack against a telephone system at a corporation that relies on telephone systems.
One person working for a big company, liking something online on e.g. Facebook or sending/sharing a bad status, can have an impact on shares, and in some cases people have been fired for bad behaviour on the Internet.
If you download movies illegally and you get caught, you will most likely get a huge fine in real life, whether you believe what you do on the Internet is real or not. You may even get prison time, but don't worry, anything you do on the Internet is not real according to you.
Your actions on the Internet, are reflection in real life. The people you interact with, will have an emotional impact in real life. (Which can be both good or bad.) |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.01 10:57:00 -
[90] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Daenna Chrysi wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:It seems the DDoS has stopped and we are currently in our regularly scheduled downtime. We'll continue to monitor things as we bring the server back online. I am getting a funny feeling the attack was done by someone who doesnt know about the daily downtimes, I mean if you go through all the trouble of doing such an attack, wouldnt you time it better to make it as efficient as possible? More like by some group that DOES know about the daily timezones, and was running a demonstration of their capabilities to CCP.
If this was a demonstration, it was a noob (script kiddie) demonstration with a serious low throughput. |
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Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:01:00 -
[91] - Quote
At least I now understand why I was getting disconnected all the time while playing the last few days. Hope that's the end of this current incident. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
200
|
Posted - 2014.03.01 11:05:00 -
[92] - Quote
Happening again this morning, started to really feel the effects around 10.35 Eve time, two accounts constantly being disconnected and massive lag spikes. Hope you get it sorted asap, keep the faith. |
Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
|
Posted - 2014.03.01 11:43:00 -
[93] - Quote
Caviar Liberta wrote:Anna Karhunen wrote:I would not consider it greedy to ask for compensation on something that CCP has said they would compensate just hours earlier in the same thread. EvE Online EULA: #11 - 3rd Paragraph. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
This has been way too frequent over the last 2 weeks. It's terrible today, logged in before DT without issue. Now the socket closes every time after you select the char and right as the game is about to load. So as of now I cannot play at all.
I think it is now reasonable to ask for some kind of compensation. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:04:00 -
[94] - Quote
..Was on the Gallente Epic Arc at the "Showtime" stage, having just killed the named pirate that drops the item needed to complete both the mission and the Epic Arc I was being d/c'd again and again, was unable to get back to the location pre downtime, now ..post downtime all traces of the mission have vanished.
Just reset my mission Please, no need to compensate me any further than this.
Thank-You. |
Qweasdy
Justified Chaos
79
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:29:00 -
[95] - Quote
Faenir Antollare wrote:..Was on the Gallente Epic Arc at the "Showtime" stage, having just killed the named pirate that drops the item needed to complete both the mission and the Epic Arc I was being d/c'd again and again, was unable to get back to the location pre downtime, now ..post downtime all traces of the mission have vanished.
Just reset my mission Please, no need to compensate me any further than this.
Thank-You.
petition it, don't ask on the forums, they won't do anything about it. This is a terrible thread. As such, it's locked. - CCP Falcon
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Uncle Traveling Matt
Dragonfire Industries
20
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:31:00 -
[96] - Quote
Does the fact that it's taking me about 6 login attempts per character to get online have anything to do with this?
UTM
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Taj Melkan
Zervas Aeronautics The Unthinkables
2
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:46:00 -
[97] - Quote
I too cannot log in :(. Tried several times and got to toon selection screen but after that the client would just quit and now I cant even log on it says an error has occured with your log in !!
Why is there no announcement from CCP admitting there are issues now as it seems lots of people are having problems !! |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:50:00 -
[98] - Quote
Qweasdy wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:..Was on the Gallente Epic Arc at the "Showtime" stage, having just killed the named pirate that drops the item needed to complete both the mission and the Epic Arc I was being d/c'd again and again, was unable to get back to the location pre downtime, now ..post downtime all traces of the mission have vanished.
Just reset my mission Please, no need to compensate me any further than this.
Thank-You. petition it, don't ask on the forums, they won't do anything about it.
Ok, have done so now and TY.
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l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
884
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:09:00 -
[99] - Quote
I also got diconnects. 3 Time in a row. Pinging the eve server works fine though. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2633
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:49:00 -
[100] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Guys it's OK that people want to DDOS the server.
To the people DDOSing EVE, it's just a game to them. They are doing it for fun. They are just trying to have fun within the confines of possibility in this game of life we all play by choice.
Since it is an action taking place on the internet, according to you, IT'S NOT REAL! So stop letting yourself become emotionally impacted over interactions that ultimately are not real.
The internet and the interactions you have with people online ARE NOT REAL.
I feel genuine sorrow for how your mind works, I really do. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Nevase Prometeus
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:21:00 -
[101] - Quote
I cannot login this day too. Is it from that accidents ? |
Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:26:00 -
[102] - Quote
Nevase Prometeus wrote:I cannot login this day too. Is it from that accidents ?
Yep probably. Just keep attempting to log on and you will get eventually. Took me 3-5 times.
Co-incidentally, the forum has started to go down now too. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
360
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:25:00 -
[103] - Quote
Qweasdy wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:..Was on the Gallente Epic Arc at the "Showtime" stage, having just killed the named pirate that drops the item needed to complete both the mission and the Epic Arc I was being d/c'd again and again, was unable to get back to the location pre downtime, now ..post downtime all traces of the mission have vanished.
Just reset my mission Please, no need to compensate me any further than this.
Thank-You. petition it, don't ask on the forums, they won't do anything about it.
Yeah had a similiar issue, and petitioned it and got the bad mission reinstated so I could continue the arc. I have a nagging suspicion I may have lost some recently gained standing as well, but meh who cares. The petition response was very fast. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
201
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:56:00 -
[104] - Quote
Hasikan Miallok wrote:Qweasdy wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:..Was on the Gallente Epic Arc at the "Showtime" stage, having just killed the named pirate that drops the item needed to complete both the mission and the Epic Arc I was being d/c'd again and again, was unable to get back to the location pre downtime, now ..post downtime all traces of the mission have vanished.
Just reset my mission Please, no need to compensate me any further than this.
Thank-You. petition it, don't ask on the forums, they won't do anything about it. Yeah had a similiar issue, and petitioned it and got the bad mission reinstated so I could continue the arc. I have a nagging suspicion I may have lost some recently gained standing as well, but meh who cares. The petition response was very fast.
I went back to the mission giver (14 jumps there and back again in a BS...deep joy) to find that the mission had completely reset and was able to accept and just start that leg again, cancelled my petition the moment I realized this, but it is nice to read that there was a quick response time for similar.
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jin ko82
Mine Your 0wn Business Brothers of Tangra
36
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:14:00 -
[105] - Quote
if we die and items get dropped you better ******* reimburse those as well.... |
Gaming God
Boterkuipje 12
57
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:32:00 -
[106] - Quote
Cant log in :( |
Moraguth
Ranger Corp
66
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:35:00 -
[107] - Quote
I can log in to the game, select my character, and then get booted while still "Loading".
I don't know if this matters, but I'm connecting from the central US area. I have 12 hours to change a skill =/ I can kill you with my brain too. It's genetic. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
109768
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:42:00 -
[108] - Quote
From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.) "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Moraguth
Ranger Corp
66
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:45:00 -
[109] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.)
And me, in Nebraska. I can kill you with my brain too. It's genetic. |
Hadrian Blackstone
Barringtons Research
25
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:54:00 -
[110] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.)
A cow probably chewed through the main wire or something. |
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Bear Dogg
The Dogg Pound
0
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:09:00 -
[111] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.)
Add Missouri to your list... /sigh |
Leumas Selazenom
The Tall Order Zombie Pony Express
0
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:14:00 -
[112] - Quote
Hadrian Blackstone wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.) A cow probably chewed through the main wire or something. Or a stray cat. California here, log into char and DC about 15 seconds later without it getting out of the black loading screen. Being west coast is suffering. |
Serenity Miner
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:18:00 -
[113] - Quote
Bear Dogg wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.) Add Missouri to your list... /sigh
from Minnesota, no problems so far Vietnam, Iraq 1 & 2, Afghanistan
4 Wars are enough, Retired US Army O-3 |
Sojuro Ryosaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:20:00 -
[114] - Quote
On the east coast and can't get in either. select char and then..socket closed. Looks like Simcity today. |
Tipper Trix
The Sagan Clan Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:57:00 -
[115] - Quote
Michigan here, able to log in but socket is closed. |
Allikas Nortocus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:09:00 -
[116] - Quote
Add Oklahoma to that list, no login for me either. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
274
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:14:00 -
[117] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:... this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. ... I don't think so. I'm from western Europe and have exactly the same problems connecting to EvE. If I can log in (takes several tries) I get a socket closed error several times an hour.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3971
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:14:00 -
[118] - Quote
I almost had the Veldnaught ganked. Please fix this travesty. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:25:00 -
[119] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.)
You'll find its global man. UK here and I know people in Denmark and other places getting it. As said previously I got in after I kept trying. |
jin ko82
Mine Your 0wn Business Brothers of Tangra
36
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:06:00 -
[120] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:I almost had the Veldnaught ganked. Please fix this travesty. awwwww thats so sad! maybe you can get it back with you "isk doubling" douchbagery |
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jin ko82
Mine Your 0wn Business Brothers of Tangra
36
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:11:00 -
[121] - Quote
also hurry the **** up....you would expect a company that is going to build a monument to this game to have better security |
ReheL't
INSURGENT ENTERPRISE
0
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:31:00 -
[122] - Quote
i still have connection issue here in italy, the weird thing is that i can log in with my secondary character and not with the primary. "The socket was closed" |
Jade Knight07
6
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:41:00 -
[123] - Quote
I've been having the same issue all morning. I managed to get one of my alts logged in with no problems but wasn't able to get either of my other toons logged on. Also the website is having issues. I managed to log my main into the website to respond to this thread only to have a "This page can't be displayed" when trying to reply here. Which has now happened many times. >.<
What I've noticed:
The launcher is behaving oddly. After inputting my credentials and hitting enter nothing happens for an extended period of time. Several minutes at times. Many times, after a few minutes, the launcher window clears all the content leaving just the back ground. A few times the eve client window has opened but its just black. After another minute or two I get a "Socket is closed" message. I have done this many times over the course of several hours. Usually after hitting enter it almost instantly begins loading Eve.
Website:
From what I've experienced trying to post this message this problem could be more wide spread than what people have managed to report. It has taken me better than 5 minutes just to get to the point where I can reply to this thread. Normally I would have just given up by now, but its Saturday after all. :) I made it to the input form and copied my this post over. Only after hitting post I received more "this page can't be displayed" messages.
Please look into this further. I have skills that need to be updated. ;-) |
Admiral Finkus
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:57:00 -
[124] - Quote
jin ko82 wrote:also hurry the **** up....you would expect a company that is going to build a monument to this game to have better security DDOS attacks like this can be pretty difficult to mitigate. People need to patch their servers to stop this NTP nonsense.
:edit: BTW, NW US and I haven't noticed any issues today with the site, launcher, or game. Others obviously are, but it sounds like this particular outage may be regional. It might be helpful to post your location if you're having problems so CCP can isolate them. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:19:00 -
[125] - Quote
Montreal, Canada.
I couldn't logon the main, tried an alt and it worked long enough for me to submit a ticket. People online suggested to run the repair tool and since i had nothing better to try i did. Trying to log back in after, it wouldn't let either character on. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:42:00 -
[126] - Quote
Is anyone even reading the technical help forum? This isn't solved at all. |
Slarti
One Man and His Drake
8
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:52:00 -
[127] - Quote
I can see 40+k happy people online but have the problems others have reported where I cant get in game myself. Seems strange how some people get in no problem while others no chance.
I understand CCP need to sort the problem out but someone should be allocated to spend a few moments to explain whats going on so the unhappy people who pay their wages have some idea whats going on |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:58:00 -
[128] - Quote
CCP doesn't care to have people working on the weekend. Costs them money or something and since you pay up front, they're laughing at us right now. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Black Legion.
628
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:07:00 -
[129] - Quote
jin ko82 wrote:also hurry the **** up....you would expect a company that is going to build a monument to this game to have better security
Do you know what a DDoS is?
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LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:09:00 -
[130] - Quote
The DDoS was yesterday, this is bullshit those people are too lazy to pick up or to give any acknowledgement to. |
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1475
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:28:00 -
[131] - Quote
Like with others i also get the socket closed message when i attempt to log in. Get far enough to get the pop up message saying i have notifications, stays on black screen and then socket closed.
Had no issues last night, this started today. Forums seems to also be affected, being very slow and sometimes not loading at all.
Good luck, hope it will be fixed soon Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Jamake Kouvo
101st New Eden Defense Fleet Divide By Zero Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:32:00 -
[132] - Quote
I think there are still side effects from that....I'm having issues loading characters and logging in... |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2889
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Posted - 2014.03.02 00:11:00 -
[133] - Quote
Jamake Kouvo wrote:I think there are still side effects from that....I'm having issues loading characters and logging in...
Likewise, on all of my accounts. The forums are taking forever to load anything also, not even sure if this reply will get posted. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Irene Kennedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 00:17:00 -
[134] - Quote
this IS aggravating.
I cannot log in today either (black screen after character selection) and I seem to be having the same problem as everyone else.
Also on my laptop(the one i normally play eve with) I cannot post replies on the forums, log into Eve account management, submit a support ticket, et cetera.
I finally tried this on a desktop computer on the same network as my laptop and for whatever reason everything works normally.
I'd love to hear a DEV/GM comment to any of us having the same issues.
Soo far I've run the repair tool numerous times, ended up uninstalling/reinstalling Eve Client completely, still be broken. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 00:24:00 -
[135] - Quote
Have those clowns even acknowledged the issue yet? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
16903
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Posted - 2014.03.02 01:07:00 -
[136] - Quote
LunarGlow wrote:Have those clowns even acknowledged the issue yet? It's the weekend, they're probably running a skeleton staff. We'll probably see some sort of Dev response on Monday when everybody is back at work. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 01:12:00 -
[137] - Quote
2 days where i can't play, with no refunds or even a sorry. |
jin ko82
Mine Your 0wn Business Brothers of Tangra
36
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Posted - 2014.03.02 01:12:00 -
[138] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:jin ko82 wrote:also hurry the **** up....you would expect a company that is going to build a monument to this game to have better security Do you know what a DDoS is? yes i do *** BL |
Sister of Pain
Ze DoucheWaffe
8
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:20:00 -
[139] - Quote
East Coast US is working fine. Just finished a 2 hour session and theres around 36,000 people logged in.
Launching 5 accounts from the exe file and no delay. Pain is inevitable, but the suffering is optional. |
Noden Vorpalstar
The Knights of Polaris
15
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:29:00 -
[140] - Quote
East Coast US, here, and I'm not able to get in game. I start to load station and receive a "Socket Closed" message. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2889
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:06:00 -
[141] - Quote
Sister of Pain wrote:East Coast US is working fine. Just finished a 2 hour session and theres around 36,000 people logged in.
Launching 5 accounts from the exe file and no delay.
Bullshit. I'm East Coast US myself, and I've been having massive intermittent issues. 3 of my 4 accounts will not log on, and this one will only for a little while, then disconnects whenever I try to view contacts or do a name lookup.
This is freaking ridiculous. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:09:00 -
[142] - Quote
Like i said last page, i'm in Montreal Canada and i couldn't log on all day. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2642
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:13:00 -
[143] - Quote
LunarGlow wrote:CCP doesn't care to have people working on the weekend. Costs them money or something and since you pay up front, they're laughing at us right now.
This is the biggest load of crap. You obviously haven't been around when Falcon and others have been up in the office at 2-4am in the morning patching servers and mitigating attacks to keep the game running for us.
For the record, east coast Australian here, and doing fine. No notable issues at all. Didn't even know this was happening. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:24:00 -
[144] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:LunarGlow wrote:CCP doesn't care to have people working on the weekend. Costs them money or something and since you pay up front, they're laughing at us right now. This is the biggest load of crap. You obviously haven't been around when Falcon and others have been up in the office at 2-4am in the morning patching servers and mitigating attacks to keep the game running for us. For the record, east coast Australian here, and doing fine. No notable issues at all. Didn't even know this was happening.
Well excuse me while you play the game like nothing at all is amiss. Why do i bother playing the game anyway, i should just pay them and not play at all.
Multiple post? Blame CCP forums |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:29:00 -
[145] - Quote
Also would you call "Falcon and others"? They're late for being my heroes. Oh right... Not on the weekends... |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2157
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:35:00 -
[146] - Quote
Having trouble logging in right now.
Concurrent logins is 32k, lower than usual for this time on a weekend. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:36:00 -
[147] - Quote
I don't understand... This australian logs in fine, everyone else should. |
Tipper Trix
The Sagan Clan Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:37:00 -
[148] - Quote
I'm concerned about skill point reimbursement. In 4 hours my queue will be empty. Time = money in eve as with everything else, even if I'm not logging in I pay monthly for my skills to train. I don't think I need to make an argument as to why an empty skill queue sucks.
So my question CCP; will we be reimbursed for potential skill point loss? The difference between the time our recent skill has finished and the time the servers come back up would be sufficient if granted in SP/hour or something.
Thank you for this consideration.
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2642
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:40:00 -
[149] - Quote
LunarGlow wrote:I don't understand... This australian logs in fine, everyone else should.
No, you're missing the point. If we're not having trouble here, and you are there, then the point is that the attack is regional.
The other point is that, if you don't think CCP are willing to work weekends to keep their servers running, you're mistaken. If you think they aren't working on this, you're mistaken. I get that you feel a bit like throwing a tantrum over this, not being able to play what you're paying for sucks, but you're throwing your tantrum at the wrong people. CCP didn't DDOS their own servers.
So grow the **** up, and learn to handle things with a little rational thought and maturity maybe? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Kazee RunningCloud
Redshift Interstellar Seekers of the Unseen
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:40:00 -
[150] - Quote
Noden Vorpalstar wrote:East Coast US, here, and I'm not able to get in game. I start to load station and receive a "Socket Closed" message.
Had the "black screen of death' trying to connect earlier today. Then was working fine for about 4 hours. Now, none of my characters can log in.
On East Coast, US. sigh ..... |
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LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:41:00 -
[151] - Quote
FU australian baiter, you're not my mom. |
Eisen Sonne
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:46:00 -
[152] - Quote
Cheers,
North East coast U.S. unable to login for the past 5-6 hours. Error message about Socket Closed |
Moraguth
Ranger Corp
66
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:48:00 -
[153] - Quote
The weird thing is, my buddy just a few blocks away (in nebraska) can log in just fine. WTF!???! I can kill you with my brain too. It's genetic. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:51:00 -
[154] - Quote
I heard it's an isp thing, you would be using different providers. |
Aesara X
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:11:00 -
[155] - Quote
Almost without question, it is still the DDoS attack....and I don't blame CCP for not saying too much more on it right now... |
Moraguth
Ranger Corp
66
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Posted - 2014.03.02 05:50:00 -
[156] - Quote
whoa... this is very VERY weird... i was able to log on and change skills from my PC (as opposed to my laptop that i normally log on from) which is just a few feet away from me. wtf man?
maybe i need to reboot my laptop? my pc had to download a patch and then it was able to log in. I'm not sure what is going on here. ... also, i should probably close my petition since i was able to get my next skill to start training.
((((( maybe a reboot will fix the problems my laptop is having???? ))))) I can kill you with my brain too. It's genetic. |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
180
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Posted - 2014.03.02 05:57:00 -
[157] - Quote
Naw, I been rebooting and repairing stacks and accounts for at least 18 hours. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1475
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:22:00 -
[158] - Quote
Moraguth wrote:whoa... this is very VERY weird... i was able to log on and change skills from my PC (as opposed to my laptop that i normally log on from) which is just a few feet away from me. wtf man?
maybe i need to reboot my laptop? my pc had to download a patch and then it was able to log in. I'm not sure what is going on here. ... also, i should probably close my petition since i was able to get my next skill to start training.
((((( maybe a reboot will fix the problems my laptop is having???? )))))
Now that you mention it...
Im on a laptop as well and im pretty sure someone else in this thread mentioned that the same happened to them (could log in with a desktop computer but not a laptop).
However, when it comes to computers i know close to 0 so can be a coincidence.
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Alanna Northstar
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:41:00 -
[159] - Quote
Vipre Morte wrote:Cigolon wrote:Vipre Morte wrote:Asking for reimbursements is simply greedy. I'm grateful for what CCP has provided us, and this (probably) isn't their fault.
Anything that interrupts our ability to play from their end is by definition CCP's fault, either through apathy or lack of preparation. That said I'm still not upset about it, CCP cant exactly control what every sad nerd does with their time for jollies. They CAN control what kind of defenses they employ. Well it's not necessarily true that they can always prevent every failure. In this case it sounds like a DDoS attack. Sure, there are services like CloudFlare that are DDoS protections, but they don't work 100% (they increase the amount of traffic a site can take, but not infinitely), and really only works on content like websites, not so much MMO services. Welcome to the early 21st century Internet. DDoS is a current trend in cybersecurity that does not have a solid solution yet. EDIT: Also, you have to consider the business decisions CCP has to make. Almost every company on the planet would go bankrupt if they employed the best protections against every type of known attack. They have to prioritize their budget based on vulnerability risk assessment.
DDoS has a very solid solution. Ingress/Egress filtering. Don't allow traffic to leave your network with a spoofed source address. The problem is that all service providers need to implement it, and very few seem to be doing so. If you can't spoof the origin of attacks, then the compromised machines can be instantly identified, and quarantined, therefore any given botnet can be used exactly once, for a period of at most the few minutes that it takes for the necessary phone calls to be made between service providers.
We've known about the fundamental problem underlying internet architecture and its solutions for at least a decade now. Major service providers are still dragging their heels on solving it, just as email providers dragged their heels on closing open relays a decade or so earlier, until they were pressured to fix the problem. Maybe someone will start pressing lawsuits for ISP negligence and the problem will go away? |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
884
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:55:00 -
[160] - Quote
I have the same problem on login. Central/North Europe here. Though I also had disconnects while playing yesterday, even lost a stabber.
Today I could play and do pvp after some failed login attempts.
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
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Taj Melkan
Zervas Aeronautics The Unthinkables
2
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:41:00 -
[161] - Quote
East coast Australia and I had issues logging in last night got in eventually but it took multiple attempts.
Again tonight I cannot log in get past the toon selection screen but then it takes a minute and boom connection closed
This issue is not regional it is happening everywhere and is a flow on effect of the DDoS
Hopefully CCP gets it sorted soon it is very frustrating |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10259
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:19:00 -
[162] - Quote
Haansu Mikairu wrote:Most DDoS attacks comprise of SYN Floods.
SYN floods are intended to overload the network stack of the targeted host, not saturate its bandwidth. Most providers mitigate those these days so they're not even used anymore. These days it's usually bruteforce UDP floods from botnets or CC frauded servers, and some of the nastier ones are, as you said, reflected from poorly configured public DNS resolvers and NTP servers. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kazee RunningCloud
Redshift Interstellar Seekers of the Unseen
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:42:00 -
[163] - Quote
Quote: Had the "black screen of death' trying to connect earlier today. Then was working fine for about 4 hours. Now, none of my characters can log in.
On East Coast, US. sigh .....
Now getting: "Connection Lost." "The socket was closed" . Anyone else getting this? Have run the repair tool twice, rebooted twice, even reset my dsl and cleared all cache. Ongoing issues since 3/1 on this.
East Coast, US |
Irene Kennedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:58:00 -
[164] - Quote
2nd day, same problem, and not even a response.
Watch out EA, CCP is gunning for your title!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/04/09/ea-voted-worst-company-in-america-again/
=) |
Jommis
Men's Curling
86
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:16:00 -
[165] - Quote
"Connection Lost." "The socket was closed" . |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:38:00 -
[166] - Quote
Stop whining. Maybe they are working on the problem and don't have time to come here to listen to your crap... |
Irene Kennedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:40:00 -
[167] - Quote
BrundleMeth wrote:Stop whining. Maybe they are working on the problem and don't have time to come here to listen to your crap...
Not my "crap", many of our "crap" looking for help with the issue.
Troll elsewhere. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
16904
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:43:00 -
[168] - Quote
Stop being so melodramatic, firstly it's the weekend, you know that time of the week when most people have a couple of days off to spend with their family, I don't doubt CCP have people trying to mitigate it. Secondly CCP aren't the only ones being affected by the current DDOS attacks, and they're certainly by no means the biggest company being hit by them.
They'd have to go an awful lot further to compete with EA on the "look haw f'king terrible we are" stakes, CCP at least listen to the customers somewhat. |
Irene Kennedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:51:00 -
[169] - Quote
I guess sarcasm is hard to detect in type, it was meant as a joke (note the smiley face at the end).
That said, it'd still be nice to hear something/anything from them. |
33degrees
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:51:00 -
[170] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Stop being so melodramatic, firstly it's the weekend, you know that time of the week when most people have a couple of days off to spend with their family, I don't doubt CCP have some people trying to mitigate it, bearing in mind that the server is in London, while the majority of CCP staff aren't. Secondly CCP aren't the only ones being affected by the current DDOS attacks, and they're certainly not the biggest company being hit by them. They'd have to go an awful lot further to compete with EA on the "look how f'king terrible we are" stakes, CCP at least listen to the customers somewhat.
lol @ "somewhat"....
I'd just like to be reimbursed for the SPs I'm losing since I can't get back in and update my Queue :) |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
16905
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:01:00 -
[171] - Quote
33degrees wrote:
lol @ "somewhat"....
I'd just like to be reimbursed for the SPs I'm losing since I can't get back in and update my Queue :)
They've done SP reimbursements in the past for similar events so it's not outside the realms of possibility.
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Irene Kennedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:12:00 -
[172] - Quote
Ok.
This is Odd, but might help someone else.
I logged into my next door neighbors wifi network (same ISP, but different WAN IP obviously), fired up EVE and *POOF* it works like magic.
Dunno why I didn't try this sooner..
My internet still doesn't work for EVE though, weird. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:06:00 -
[173] - Quote
Day two, still can't login. I don't have a desktop with eve installed or a neighbor to steal internet from so i'm boned...
GG CCP. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2649
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:22:00 -
[174] - Quote
Can't happen.
CCP isn't American.
Also, none of your connection issues are CCP's fault, and it takes a lot more than just connection issues, occasionally, to get called "the worst company" of anywhere. You're overreacting. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:26:00 -
[175] - Quote
This australian is picking fun at the people who can't play a game they paid for. He would be singing a different tune if he was on the other side of the fence. |
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries Exiliar Syndicate
163
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:27:00 -
[176] - Quote
Twice needed to login to Jita, twice had to keep pressing damned login button in order to get into Jita for 5 minutes and twice got Socket closed right after I finally logged in, wonderful. |
Tipper Trix
The Sagan Clan Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:35:00 -
[177] - Quote
Are people still having problems?
Was able to log in with my main but my second account get the same socket closed error I was getting last night. I'd hate to log out with my main to find I can't log back in.... Just used CCPs 4 hour activation to use a PLEX for my second account but I can't get it logged in.
Just curious if this is a problem on my end now or if others are still experiencing what was happening to me yesterday. |
bonkerss
Probe Patrol Awakened.
3
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:55:00 -
[178] - Quote
still getting ''socket closed'' randomly on 3 clients. Also mayor lag spikes. |
okst666
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
260
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:51:00 -
[179] - Quote
bonkerss wrote:still getting ''socket closed'' randomly on 3 clients. Also mayor lag spikes.
confirming
[X] < Nail here for new monitor |
Moraguth
Ranger Corp
66
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:33:00 -
[180] - Quote
I can now connect on my laptop with safe mode (after clearing all the cache buttons i could find), but not in regular mode. my pc still connects just fine. booooooooooooo. I can kill you with my brain too. It's genetic. |
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Eisen Sonne
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:38:00 -
[181] - Quote
I was able to play again this morning, however, I am unable to login now. Same error with the Socket Closed upon entering as any of my characters. |
Breton Duke
SILK ROAD
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:39:00 -
[182] - Quote
I live in the Pacific Time Zone, and I get the "Socket Closed" error fairly consistently in the morning here. After noon (around 20:30 Eve Time), the problem seems to stop, and I have no trouble logging in for the rest of the day. Don't know if this pattern will continue. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:43:00 -
[183] - Quote
So far i gather people can randomly logon and randomly get kicked after a while. I do think this need attention and that it won't just poof without a relevant update from CCP. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:49:00 -
[184] - Quote
Am i getting days credited for this? |
Nocabym Taetonod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:54:00 -
[185] - Quote
Yeah...I have 6 accounts can't get into game with any character on any account. Get to character selection screen no problem, then after screen goes blank/black for 60 seconds then info window comes up; "Connection Lost" with reason of "The socket was closed". Live in North America - Eastern Time Zone. Have been shut out for a day now from the evening March 1 to now March 2 evening. Can't even submit a ticket from account log in. Wouldn't take a ticket from general inquiry either. This is actually 5th attempt to try and even post on forum |
Keith F
United ALT Forces United Tech Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:37:00 -
[186] - Quote
Been getting random 1-2 of 4 char discos, then -Blackscreen- lost connection, on those char on retry login, BUT Close all char, clear cache and can log back in ok, Maybe this will help, and NZ timezone |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2891
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:39:00 -
[187] - Quote
Keith F wrote:Been getting random 1-2 of 4 char discos, then -Blackscreen- lost connection, on those char on retry login, BUT Close all char, clear cache and can log back in ok, Maybe this will help, and NZ timezone
As far as the cache goes, I have done that more than a dozen times, and it doesn't seem to help. Repair tool a couple times too. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Cansu Merve
Stillwater Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:26:00 -
[188] - Quote
I tried logging on multiple times early afternoon, EST, to no effect.
A little while ago I was able to log on with one character after 3 or 4 failed attempts. I did not clear the cache or use the repair tools, so that seems unrelated to me. |
Tipper Trix
The Sagan Clan Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2014.03.03 00:46:00 -
[189] - Quote
I was able to get in this morning then I made the mistake of logging off. Wanted to warn you guys that if you do get in, do not log off if you want to play later. Next time I get in I will be leaving my PC on overnight! Good luck guys and fly safe!
Edit: While I was in game I did put in a ticket and all the GM would tell me is that "they were aware of certain connectivity issues affecting multiple users". He didn't really elaborate.
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LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:11:00 -
[190] - Quote
First word from CCP i hear about since Friday night... Took them a full 48 hours to acknowledge this. |
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Breton Duke
SILK ROAD
1
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:12:00 -
[191] - Quote
Breton Duke wrote:I live in the Pacific Time Zone, and I get the "Socket Closed" error fairly consistently in the morning here. After noon (around 20:30 Eve Time), the problem seems to stop, and I have no trouble logging in for the rest of the day. Don't know if this pattern will continue. It's evening of the same day of this last post, and I am blocked from logging back in. So I think that everyone needs to make sure that they set long skill training while this DDOS problem persists. Eventually, CCP will find a way around it, but it is definitely going to be a problem for the foreseeable future. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:16:00 -
[192] - Quote
I'm pretty sure the DDoS was over Friday and they took off for the weekend with a half finished job. |
Accipiter Lemmont
The Sacred Order of the Space Weasels The Predictables
0
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:25:00 -
[193] - Quote
Having the same issues since Friday, launcher takes 30 seconds or so to log in, then I get a black screen after character selection which typically stays, with a popup every 5 minutes stating that a request is taking longer than expected to complete.
I was able to log in just fine recently by using a US-Based VPN server. I also tried a Euro VPN server, but oddly enough I had the same issues there - since I live in East Coast US. |
Caesar Vallari
AEON Banking Corporation H E L I X
1
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:44:00 -
[194] - Quote
Same Same, No different...
Au/EST log in time - multi accounts many take 3 to 10 attempts to actually get passed the initial log on toon select page.
What makes it worse and hence me posting here was my client froze / crashed while in a mission with a the ole Tengu, then do you think i could log back in??
No, 3 computers later, a mashed in stress ball and a bottle of Blue and all i had left was a pile of Tech 3 bits...
Booo CCP... Booo
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Rumini
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
6
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:27:00 -
[195] - Quote
Same issue here. Tried every ghetto hack I could find via google and nothing seems to work really. Got on this afternnon long enough to fill the skill que, logged off and have been getting "socket" errors. Can't log in. Eastern standard time USA. |
Sibyyl
122
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:31:00 -
[196] - Quote
I too ran into this issue while trying to log in. I tried clearing a cache but the error appears to be the same..
/Fÿ¡
Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2891
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:35:00 -
[197] - Quote
Caesar Vallari wrote:Same Same, No different... Au/EST log in time - multi accounts many take 3 to 10 attempts to actually get passed the initial log on toon select page. What makes it worse and hence me posting here was my client froze / crashed while in a mission with a the ole Tengu, then do you think i could log back in?? No, 3 computers later, a mashed in stress ball and a bottle of Blue and all i had left was a pile of Tech 3 bits... Booo CCP... Booo Update - Got Booted and Now none of my accounts can log into Eve. "Connection Lost - Socket was closed"
Definitely petition that. You will almost certainly get it back. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Irene Kennedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:18:00 -
[198] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Caesar Vallari wrote:Same Same, No different... Au/EST log in time - multi accounts many take 3 to 10 attempts to actually get passed the initial log on toon select page. What makes it worse and hence me posting here was my client froze / crashed while in a mission with a the ole Tengu, then do you think i could log back in?? No, 3 computers later, a mashed in stress ball and a bottle of Blue and all i had left was a pile of Tech 3 bits... Booo CCP... Booo Update - Got Booted and Now none of my accounts can log into Eve. "Connection Lost - Socket was closed" Definitely petition that. You will almost certainly get it back.
sarcasm? i cannot tell..
p.s. j/k |
Xanos Xellos
Absolute Massive Destruction
6
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:38:00 -
[199] - Quote
My biggest worry about this is my skills, if it doesn't get fixed soon I won't be able to update my skillque and i'm going to loose out on time trained.. over 20 attempts later and I still can't log in.
I mean I'll keep trying to log in because I REALLY don't want to miss out on that. But eventually i'm going to give up. |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:50:00 -
[200] - Quote
I'm not overly worried about skill queues because that's easy for them to verify. However a ship lost to a disconnect... How do you verify the cause of a disconnect?
Also i'm doing a 2 week skill atm so... I feel your pain, but i'm glad it's not me. |
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Vipre Morte
Team JK
96
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Posted - 2014.03.03 05:24:00 -
[201] - Quote
Alanna Northstar wrote:
DDoS has a very solid solution. Ingress/Egress filtering.
This is for attacks that employ IP source address filtering. Most modern DDoS methods employ amplification attacks, such as DNS or newer NTP amplification attacks from non-spoofed botnet IP addresses. This is an overload of data from "legitimate" sources, utilizing legitimate network protocols.
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Linna Baresi
34
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Posted - 2014.03.03 11:20:00 -
[202] - Quote
I'm still having issues. Sockets closing unexpectedly, screen freezing when I try to view character info, 'stuttering' when jumping gates, sometimes slight rubberbanding. And all this even in low-traffic systems.
I usually log in through IPredator (VPN, Swedish IP), since that improves the stability of my connection for some reason. The past week, it doesn't really matter whether I use my static Dutch IP or the flexible IPredator one. Member of <Fated> since 2003 fated.europefreeforum.com |
Arwen Varekai
Ideal Machine The Explicit Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:34:00 -
[203] - Quote
Dallas, Texas. Have been down since the DDOS. I get to the black screen of boredom is my best so far. The icons on the left load up and now and then I do get a faded pop up when I try to access anything; but that's after it sits at the black screen for 2 hours.
Definitely seems like IPs have been block in broad ranges.
Who wants my stuff? lol |
LunarGlow
Viziam Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.03.03 17:05:00 -
[204] - Quote
There's been a patch and i can login now.
However...
I do not appreciate the fact that there has been NO COMMUNICATION for the last 2 days from CCP and that they just toss us a patch and hope this all goes away. |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2014.03.03 17:35:00 -
[205] - Quote
more disconnects currently Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2014.03.03 17:44:00 -
[206] - Quote
and again.... Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
540
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Posted - 2014.03.03 23:30:00 -
[207] - Quote
Are red tags just like Star Trek red shirts - no respect, prepare to die? Come on already - make them "jump to" just like blue (shirts) tags.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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EightiethRaptor
Sector.8
1
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Posted - 2014.03.04 00:23:00 -
[208] - Quote
anyone still getting socket errors, i still cant seem to log in even with the patch that was given out today. |
Kahawa Oban
CompleXion Industries CompleXion Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.03.04 01:21:00 -
[209] - Quote
I'm good to go. I was having problems this weekend. With the patch all good.
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EightiethRaptor
Sector.8
1
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Posted - 2014.03.04 01:24:00 -
[210] - Quote
http://imgur.com/iOMZlvu looks like i wasnt so lucky lol |
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Vipre Morte
Team JK
96
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Posted - 2014.03.04 01:26:00 -
[211] - Quote
No issues in the hour that today's patch was applied for me. So far, so good. |
Vipre Morte
Team JK
96
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Posted - 2014.03.04 01:56:00 -
[212] - Quote
Vipre Morte wrote:No issues in the hour that today's patch was applied for me. So far, so good. Haha, scratch that. Just got the socket close error. =( |
Chrome Weasel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.04 02:22:00 -
[213] - Quote
Vipre Morte wrote:Vipre Morte wrote:No issues in the hour that today's patch was applied for me. So far, so good. Haha, scratch that. Just got the socket close error. =(
Same here. Started disconnecting a lot, gave up playing. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2014.03.06 05:32:00 -
[214] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:From convos with other players, this does seem to be exclusive to US Midwest. (3 people from Michigan, one from Minnesota.)
It is not exclusive to certain parts of the world if they are DDoS'ing the main server IP-address. When that happens and if the server + service(s) is still up and running, a limited amount of players will be able to logon while others will be dropped, etc. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2014.03.06 05:34:00 -
[215] - Quote
jin ko82 wrote:also hurry the **** up....you would expect a company that is going to build a monument to this game to have better security
Protecting against some types of DDoS is easy, other kinds are "not so easy" to protect against. Even with "Anti-DDoS" protection. If the attack however is always coming from the same location(s), any connection attempts from these should be null-routed (into nothing) before they even hit the server or any firewalls as the routers in front can generally handle a lot more traffic. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2014.03.06 05:44:00 -
[216] - Quote
Andski wrote:Haansu Mikairu wrote:Most DDoS attacks comprise of SYN Floods. SYN floods are intended to overload the network stack of the targeted host, not saturate its bandwidth. Most providers mitigate those these days so they're not even used anymore. These days it's usually bruteforce UDP floods from botnets or CC frauded servers, and some of the nastier ones are, as you said, reflected from poorly configured public DNS resolvers and NTP servers.
I think you need to read Prolexic's Q4 report. SYN floods still happen.
Here are the round numbers from it: (Network Layer attacks) 3% ACK 6% CHARGEN (Big amplification attack. Look for the chargen map on twitter.) 1% FIN PUSH 10% DNS 10% ICMP 1% RESET 0.5% RP 15% SYN 0.5% SYN PUSH 0.25% TCP Fragment 13% UDP Floods 17% UDP Fragment
And the application layer attacks are as follows: 20% HTTP GET 0.5% HEAD 0.25% NTP (Despite this hit a target with over 400Gbps) 0.25% SSL POST 1% PUSH 2% HTTP POST
SYN Floods are still very effective and can still take down targets such as EVE and possibly even your home router exposed to the Internet with no ports open. (I was exposed to a DDoS once when I confronted a few black hats, and despite I had no ports open to the Internet, I lost all Internet connectivity for a few hours until they stopped.)
When I mentioned SYN Floods it was meant in conjunction with a botnet. A SYN Flood from a single computer will rarely do any harm to modern computer systems. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2014.03.06 05:47:00 -
[217] - Quote
LunarGlow wrote:This australian is picking fun at the people who can't play a game they paid for. He would be singing a different tune if he was on the other side of the fence.
Look, I was in Australia when the DDoS occurred and CCP tweeted about it and I saw almost everyone drop from the server including myself right before the scheduled downtime. Since that day I have not had any problems logging on. |
Haansu Mikairu
Legion Of Patriots Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2014.03.06 05:50:00 -
[218] - Quote
Vipre Morte wrote:Alanna Northstar wrote:
DDoS has a very solid solution. Ingress/Egress filtering.
This is for attacks that employ IP source address filtering. Most modern DDoS methods employ amplification attacks, such as DNS or newer NTP amplification attacks from non-spoofed botnet IP addresses. This is an overload of data from "legitimate" sources, utilizing legitimate network protocols.
Finally someone speaking the same language as me |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
154
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Posted - 2014.03.06 10:41:00 -
[219] - Quote
Is anyone out there aware that today I already had "socket closed" 2 times? Someone?
I can't even undock and start to kill someone because I don't know when the sockets will be closed again...
Just asking if anyone is taking care about this issue because I can't see no "official" posts about this here on the forums. |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.03.06 11:48:00 -
[220] - Quote
Been getting DC'd, socket closed, a lot. Yesterday just as I was undocking - and when I finally got back on, there's my ship, sitting in space off the undock. In null. Not happy, CCP.
But I digress. Last two patches (today and the last one) both failed for me. Ran repair tool. Repair tool failed as well.
Grrr CCP. Grrr DDOSers. Just grrr. |
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TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
154
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Posted - 2014.03.06 11:59:00 -
[221] - Quote
Bael Malefic wrote:Been getting DC'd, socket closed, a lot. Yesterday just as I was undocking - and when I finally got back on, there's my ship, sitting in space off the undock. In null. Not happy, CCP.
But I digress. Last two patches (today and the last one) both failed for me. Ran repair tool. Repair tool failed as well.
Grrr CCP. Grrr DDOSers. Just grrr.
Whole socket closed thingy goes on for me for several weeks now... :( |
acemastr Ocer
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.03.06 12:21:00 -
[222] - Quote
Serious question now:
The DDoS'ing has been going on for a while now, and I'm reasonably sure there's a motive other than to disrupt the game play for players for all of 15minutes.
Are our account details/passwords/financial information safe? |
ShArky boy
Usual Suspekts Verge of Carebearing
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 12:23:00 -
[223] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:As of 10:30 UTC, Tranquility is currently undergoing a DDoS attack that has knocked players offline and is preventing them from reconnecting to the server. We are currently investigating the attack and implementing countermeasures. We apologize for the inconvenience this may be causing players and hope to have functionality restored as soon as possible.
I was warping two carrers and 2 Dread to Core Garrison landing in a wormhole anomaly. I go into Triage / Sige .... and Bang mesege pops up on me screen .... I Panic Panic Panic, and I see socket closed. When the server came back up and I log back in I was in a pod.
I already petitioning when I get an answer?
0/ |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
154
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Posted - 2014.03.06 13:34:00 -
[224] - Quote
ShArky boy wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:As of 10:30 UTC, Tranquility is currently undergoing a DDoS attack that has knocked players offline and is preventing them from reconnecting to the server. We are currently investigating the attack and implementing countermeasures. We apologize for the inconvenience this may be causing players and hope to have functionality restored as soon as possible. I was warping two carrers and 2 Dread to Core Garrison landing in a wormhole anomaly. I go into Triage / Sige .... and Bang mesege pops up on me screen .... I Panic Panic Panic, and I see socket closed. When the server came back up and I log back in I was in a pod. I already petitioning when I get an answer? 0/
1 week will be fast, i guess |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2083
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:02:00 -
[225] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:Bael Malefic wrote:Been getting DC'd, socket closed, a lot. Yesterday just as I was undocking - and when I finally got back on, there's my ship, sitting in space off the undock. In null. Not happy, CCP.
But I digress. Last two patches (today and the last one) both failed for me. Ran repair tool. Repair tool failed as well.
Grrr CCP. Grrr DDOSers. Just grrr. Whole socket closed thingy goes on for me for several weeks now... :(
So i noticed with a lot of people , either the ddos attacks are daily and been going on for weeks -wich i would find odd - or there is more to it but the DDOS attack is a good blanket to take cover under ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17015
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:17:00 -
[226] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote: 1 week will be fast, i guess
Guess so, I've had an open reimbursement ticker for 6 days so far, from the disconnect on 28 feb. |
Vipre Morte
Team JK
98
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:21:00 -
[227] - Quote
Haansu Mikairu wrote:Vipre Morte wrote:Alanna Northstar wrote:
DDoS has a very solid solution. Ingress/Egress filtering.
This is for attacks that employ IP source address filtering. Most modern DDoS methods employ amplification attacks, such as DNS or newer NTP amplification attacks from non-spoofed botnet IP addresses. This is an overload of data from "legitimate" sources, utilizing legitimate network protocols. Finally someone speaking the same language as me
I'm working on my Master's degree in Cyber Security =)
Also, your char's last name is Northstar. We use a CIS software at work called Northstar. With your IT "language" speaking skills and that name, please tell me you're not affiliated ? I hate that software and its company, haha. |
Apocalypse Solar
Nova Solar Industries Inc.
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:32:00 -
[228] - Quote
The client has been incredibly sluggish and non responsive over the last few weeks, Character sheets take forever to load their data, I lost 2 ships yesterday to random socket closed due to these DDoS attacks.
I am pretty sure EVE is DDoSed a lot more regularly than the DEVs would like to admit to. |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:27:00 -
[229] - Quote
More spam of sockets closed here for me in the UK.
Opened up my router options to make sure, and had a stable connection for 26days without disconnects.
So its defiantly CCP's end - at least for me Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Karak Kashada
Dispensation
11
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:55:00 -
[230] - Quote
Been kicked off three times in less than an hour. Fail. |
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Cheila
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 20:14:00 -
[231] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Bakuhz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Flock Master wrote:ships will be reimbursed? If you lost a ship during the DDoS attack, please file a support ticket and it will be reimbursed. how about running out of time for a cosmos or storyline missions losing alot of faction standings? You'll have to file a ticket. I'm unsure on the exact policy regarding this, but we tend to show leeway in these cases.
Is there any information we should title the support ticket with or include in the ticket? I was just denied because the server logs didn't indicate anything...
:\
I'm *really* not looking forward to suiciding (stuck in a WH), re-purchasing everything, then spending another week or so getting to where I need to go. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
154
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:39:00 -
[232] - Quote
I still can't understand why people are fa**ing on new ship skins when there are serious problems with the game (socket closed issues, lag, stability), not to talk about bugs that exist for many years now... Sad :( |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:23:00 -
[233] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:I still can't understand why people are fa**ing on new ship skins when there are serious problems with the game (socket closed issues, lag, stability), not to talk about bugs that exist for many years now... Sad :(
I agree totally, but a gaming company interested in profit and money are yet again focusing on making money and profit
I wonder when todays DDOS attack will begin, my money is on prime time EU...... AGAIN!!!!! "le sigh" Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
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