The timer for changing ships in station was removed completely...

...This might have gone largely unnoticed but is one of the largest usability improvements that we have had to the game in recent months for a specific play style.

That one is getting changed for this coming release. The session change timer will be a progress-bar thing rather than a spinning thing.

I would assume the invulnerability timer would be obsolete should the session timer be eliminated altogether. It would just no longer be needed.

CCP Gaurd

For 8 years we've been asking you to fix the dumb that is "Station Docking Games".


So you made it worse?

I mean seriously, in one swift motion you've made station docking games infinitely worse, instead of that brief second where you might catch somebody asleep at the wheel you now give them a full 10 seconds to dock with complete immunity.

So instead of actually fixing what we asked you to fix, you compounded the problem and made it infinitely worse than it was before?

Dear CCP, please FIX docking games, this does not mean any of the followin -

1) Increased docking range by massive amounts.

2) give them 10 seconds of absolute immunity on the undock


What it does mean is that you make undocking have meaningful consequences, something you're going out of your way to purposely strip from the game. This is not what you've been asked to do.


Realistically, if you actually wanted to FIX station docking games, you'd flip your intended change so that you had 20 seconds of immunity and a 30 second station redock timer. THAT would instantly fix all station docking games, knowing that if you choose to undock, you have 10 seconds where you and your ship are vulnerable.

But instead you make things worse, thanks for that.

As it is a small group can set up in a probable JF route and cause havoc, with this change they're basically just spinning their wheels doing nothing since CCP has decided that anything near a station should be virtually untouchable.

I'm sure this has already been said,

Definitely not a fan of my target having a extra 10 seconds to dock instead of having to be as fast on the button as i am.

Re-dock and invulnerability should end at the same time. I am perfectly ok with getting rid of session timers everywhere else but keeping the undock-invul and shortening the redock time is doing something unpleasant to undock-n-pop shoots. Keep them the same or get rid of them entirely.

So by this, when I jump through a wormhole, I will remain cloaked for a total of 60 seconds on the other side, before I become visible to other players (or before they bump me) But I am able to jump back in 20 seconds. Correct?

How about letting docked pilots see who is waiting for them outside a station? How about letting pilots see who is on the other side of a gate? Make the Space Barbie that is walking in stations useful for something. THEN get rid of all timers. Result - no more gate or station games, no need for invulnerability.

Since when does PL use a "small group" to do anything? 50 supers has never been a small group? You guys are some of the best, quit whining about lame tactics that you use for easy kills and find a better way to get fights. You've done it before, but now you're used to super blobs and ganks, go back to the drawing board and have fun.

And just because I wear a helmet on the bus does not make me stupid.