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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1727
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Posted - 2014.03.24 00:48:00 -
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I am voting for myself and I intend to run on a nerf highsec platform. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
1616
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Posted - 2014.03.24 00:49:00 -
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... will vote for whichever candidate(s) have the funniest Youtube "campaign video".... and spare no expense on the special effects... it's "bread and circuses" time and the Mob is getting ugly.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
384
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Posted - 2014.03.24 00:53:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So... not offering a solution to the perceived problem? What is the problem? People are delusional?
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3350
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Posted - 2014.03.24 00:54:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So... not offering a solution to the perceived problem? What is the problem? People are delusional?
So, why are you even posting? Is this some kind of forum ************ for you? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
386
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Posted - 2014.03.24 01:16:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So, why are you even posting? Is this some kind of forum ************ for you? You seem upset. There is no need to be upset.
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
589
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Posted - 2014.03.24 01:20:00 -
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I have always voted for the candidate with the dodgiest, most smugly crooked avatar. Pluses for a look of unpunished evil or diabolical stupidity.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Cadinie
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
13
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Posted - 2014.03.24 01:43:00 -
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Our long time motto has never fit more relevantly than it does in this thread. "Your votes don't count" |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1186
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:16:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I am voting for myself and I intend to run on a nerf highsec platform.
so how are you any different to any other candidate? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1186
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:41:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Out of general curiosity who is people voting for and why?
None of the above. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2407
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:14% of the electorate voted.
Well now we know exactly how much the EvE playbase really lives in nullsec, now don't we?
Thanks!
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
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Alphea Abbra
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
677
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:48:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Malcanis wrote:14% of the electorate voted. Well now we know exactly how much the EvE playbase really lives in nullsec, now don't we? Thanks! No.
We are reaffirmed in our prior observation: That you and others are apparently incapable of understanding the CSM or basic election mechanics.
This is added to a host of other observations that point towards the conclusion that you're talking out of your rear end. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1046
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:57:00 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Who are the CSM? I distinctly remember the Somer Blink affair. The CSM told us they would get into the bottom of it. I guess they are still trying.
This is my 4th CSM election and I still have no idea what the CSM is actually supposed to do, or what powers they actually have. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1911
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:58:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Not every EVE player is eligible to vote. EG: accounts less than 30 (or was it 60?) days old.
Some of those 500k were also Serenity players, and therefore also disqualified.
14% of the electorate voted.
Additionally, the fact that you're essentially telling people to "Don't vote in the election because not enough people voted in the last election" is beyond satire.
The problem with the CSM is literally you. I think its the general understanding that the CSM which was supposedly formed to represent the totality of players in the game actually is gamed by the alliances to only represent the alliances. Not voting is a smart move. Since its an entirely wasteful thing to do at this current point in time.
If however it was properly marketed and properly presented in-game that might change though the current domination by vote rigging with alliance alts would still likely result in a farcical representation of the playerbase.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2944
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:05:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Who are the CSM? I distinctly remember the Somer Blink affair. The CSM told us they would get into the bottom of it. I guess they are still trying. This is my 4th CSM election and I still have no idea what the CSM is actually supposed to do, or what powers they actually have.
The CSM have no power. They cannot tell CCP to do anything.
Their purpose is to act as a sounding board for CCP's ideas, before they reach the rest of the player base. So they can say "No, that's insane, please take it back to the drawing board". or "That sounds kinda ok, but would be better if you did this"
They are also there to bring issues to CCP's attention, without requiring a 70 page threadnaught.
Now, they can also have pet issues, and being on the CSM gives them a little more access to developers to give them the elevator pitch for it. But they cannot force anything to happen.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2944
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:07:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcanis wrote:Not every EVE player is eligible to vote. EG: accounts less than 30 (or was it 60?) days old.
Some of those 500k were also Serenity players, and therefore also disqualified.
14% of the electorate voted.
Additionally, the fact that you're essentially telling people to "Don't vote in the election because not enough people voted in the last election" is beyond satire.
The problem with the CSM is literally you. I think its the general understanding that the CSM which was supposedly formed to represent the totality of players in the game actually is gamed by the alliances to only represent the alliances. Not voting is a smart move. Since its an entirely wasteful thing to do at this current point in time. If however it was properly marketed and properly presented in-game that might change though the current domination by vote rigging with alliance alts would still likely result in a farcical representation of the playerbase.
The only rigging possible is: have more people who vote than anyone else. The STV system means that the people who vote get representation. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Angeleh
Silverflames
25
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:02:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Not every EVE player is eligible to vote.
Just because a player was deliberately kept from voting, does not make them represented in CSM.
So it seems you are verifying that less than 10% of the players are represented in CSM, even though you are not providing any source of your numbers. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1730
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:31:00 -
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The biggest concern of the next CSM is how to nerf highsec, so I am naturally one of the most qualified people to do the job. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
413
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:32:00 -
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Nobody because **** the CSM it is a waste of space. (in space) |
Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
248
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:52:00 -
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None of them. It doesn't matter.
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS. Don't try engaging the phony CSM with your grievances. TAKE REAL ACTION THAT CCP WILL NOTICE. UNSUBSCRIBE. Only through declining player numbers and revenues will CCP ever take your concerns seriously. |
Krackie
Segmentum Solar
9
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:52:00 -
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I for one will be voting for our new insect overlords. Bo Jangles of EN24 |
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
510
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:32:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:None of them. It doesn't matter.
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS. Don't try engaging the phony CSM with your grievances. TAKE REAL ACTION THAT CCP WILL NOTICE. UNSUBSCRIBE. Only through declining player numbers and revenues will CCP ever take your concerns seriously.
You first.
Oh wait I forgot your not just an idiot and a troll but a massive hypocrite as well. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
432
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:47:00 -
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Ballot should include the following options: (-) "Mickey Mouse" (X) "Dissolve Council of Stellar Management" |
Winchester Steele
444
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:44:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:None of them. It doesn't matter.
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS. Don't try engaging the phony CSM with your grievances. TAKE REAL ACTION THAT CCP WILL NOTICE. UNSUBSCRIBE. Only through declining player numbers and revenues will CCP ever take your concerns seriously.
Sorry, what am I supposed to be angry about? Game seems to be fine to me. I mean there is always balancing to do, and I'd like to see more risk and less reward, but overall I think this game and the devs who made it are spot on.
Do you even know why you are typing in caps? Maybe you should unsub and go play a game better suited to your delicate sensibilities.
Anyhow, my vote is for Psychotic Monk primarily, and then anyone who's platform includes unf*cking POS's. This game is built around the likes of us. It's not the assholes that are playing the wrong game. - James Amril-Kesh. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
422
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:12:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Not voting is a smart move.
Not something I'm accustomed to hearing.
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14281
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:37:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcanis wrote:Not every EVE player is eligible to vote. EG: accounts less than 30 (or was it 60?) days old.
Some of those 500k were also Serenity players, and therefore also disqualified.
14% of the electorate voted.
Additionally, the fact that you're essentially telling people to "Don't vote in the election because not enough people voted in the last election" is beyond satire.
The problem with the CSM is literally you. I think its the general understanding that the CSM which was supposedly formed to represent the totality of players in the game actually is gamed by the alliances to only represent the alliances. Not voting is a smart move. Since its an entirely wasteful thing to do at this current point in time. If however it was properly marketed and properly presented in-game that might change though the current domination by vote rigging with alliance alts would still likely result in a farcical representation of the playerbase.
How do you reconcile that with the (apparently) hi-sec people consistently arguing that hi-sec people shouldn't vote and the (admittedly) nullsec people strongly arguing that they should?
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14281
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:38:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:[quote=Malcanis] Not voting is a smart move.
Goonswarm thanks you for supporting it.
1 Kings 12:11
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Marsha Mallow
150
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:42:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I think its the general understanding Yeah, no don't speak for the rest of us. Tah.
Infinity Ziona wrote:that the CSM which was supposedly formed to represent the totality of players in the game A lot of whom are scrubs, so god I hope not. Democracy = he who shouts/strokes loudest wins. Although you are making an impressive effort.
Infinity Ziona wrote:actually is gamed by the alliances to only represent the alliances Which are frequently run by screamers who explode in a big ball of outrage whenever anyone other than Garth or Mittens touches them. Look at them all waving their tiny tittle hands about for some attention.
Infinity Ziona wrote:Not voting is a smart move. Since its an entirely wasteful thing to do at this current point in time. Signed. Just suck that lemon. I will vote on your behalf for the candidate likely to entertain you the most. Then you can really have some ranting fun. That monument is basically mine btw, my name(s) will be all over it along with a handful of other players. ~Controlling your game~
Infinity Ziona wrote:If however it was properly marketed and properly presented in-game that might change though the current domination by vote rigging with alliance alts would still likely result in a farcical representation of the playerbase. Somewhere, in a land far, far away, some Viking devs heard this, debated whipping out the longboats, then thought "nah, lets just nerf something". And then they clinked meadglasses and lol'd. - |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
442
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:44:00 -
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I am voting for myself! Even though I am not running. My alternate ballot votes are undecided at this time.
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
395
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:45:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Still not very clear.
"in the context of the GÇ£greatest good for the greater player baseGÇ¥. Politics is necessarily ambiguous.
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:My reading of this is that candidates have to be aware off issues of all players, and all sec areas, so it makes the argument over buff this sec candidate or nerf that sec candidate pointless. IF CCP are following their own guidelines then anyone coming in as a single issue or single sec will/should just be ignored, making them a waste of time. So this argument over representation seems kind of moot. Politics always devolves to special interest groups. It is impossible to represent everyone at all times. I'd say it's impossible to represent anyone other than yourself for any meaningful length of time, but no sense in being too philosophical. They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
443
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:51:00 -
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If you don't know how to vote
1) Pick your favorite regional candidate (ex. Sugar Kyle for Low Sec) - this should be your top pick as they will most likely share your appreciation for the game elements that drew you to that region
2) Pick someone with strong game mechanic understanding (ex. Manfred Sideous) - this is a solid choice because CCP has in the past mucked up things because of mechanics oversights
3) Pick someone with strong economic understanding (ex. Mynnna) - this is a solid choice because CCP has mucked up the economy because of oversights.
If your first choice is a lock in (or a lock out), then your vote is used on #2 or #3 which are both overall positives for the game. You don't want mechanics issues for the next year, nor do you want a dumpstered economy.
Or Vote For Me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJFWoAVJz4
(I am not running.) |
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