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5n4keyes
Sacred Templars Fatal Ascension
88
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:03:00 -
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I vote for McMelch, McMelch is the best German ever and all around cool guy, clearly the best CSM candidate ever! |

Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
265
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:13:00 -
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I will confine my list of possible candidates to those who do not in any way represent any of the null security space power blocks.
Which is to say, I will not be voting. The sound of the Amarrian heart |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2783
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:56:00 -
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Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:I will confine my list of possible candidates to those who do not in any way represent any of the null security space power blocks.
Which is to say, I will not be voting.
Interesting, so, which nullsec bloc do I represent?
Or Psychotic Monk?
Or Sugar Kyle?
Or Mangala Solaris?
Or Mike Azariah ?
Or DJ FunkyBacon ?
Or Asayanami Dei ?
(or some of the others. I'm lazy)
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Rob Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:57:00 -
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As a newbie, how does the voting thing actually work? Spent ~ 5 hours reading most things in the relevant subforum, couldn't find details of the mechanism. Is it in-game, on the forums, other? |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2783
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:06:00 -
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Rob Kashuken wrote:As a newbie, how does the voting thing actually work? Spent ~ 5 hours reading most things in the relevant subforum, couldn't find details of the mechanism. Is it in-game, on the forums, other?
It's handled on a website. It'll be linked up when it's open. Voting is anonymous, but all the ballots are released (without names)
You get to drag and drop candidate named from a big list onto another list, in the order that you want your vote applied to it.
If more people than 1/14th of the voters vote for your first candidate, then a faction of the vote of everyone who voted for them cascades to the next person on the voters ballot
If there are 1000 voters, and 4 positions, you need 250 votes to get in.
If you get 500, everyone who voted for you has half a vote applied to the second person on the their list. This cascade continues as people hit the 250 vote mark.
If there aren't enough people that hit 250, the person with the least votes is eliminated, and all the votes with them in the first position cascade to the second vote on their list.
At this point, the results are calculated again. This happens until you get everyone elected.
(if all your candidates are eliminated, your vote is removed, and the requirements recalculated)
If you're voting for around 5 or more people, your vote is running at around 95% maximum effectiveness. More is better.
Candidates often post list of who they'd suggest people vote for. If you're not feeling up to reading up on all the candidates, have a look at the lists of someone who seems reasonable to you. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Rob Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:09:00 -
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Many thanks Steve, helpful to know. |

Sibyyl
126
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:41:00 -
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7o Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |

Fan Duk
Federation Interstellar Resources
4
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Posted - 2014.03.07 02:27:00 -
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Who is the Carebear-Dilettante-Newbie-Fail candidate? I'll try to vote but i might misclick.  |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4969
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Posted - 2014.03.07 05:58:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:What you see from my killboard, is that I occasionally roam into lowsec/nullsec, with RVB ganked.
The vast majority of my time is spent in highsec, making stuff (with the occasional mission and mining spree)
Check his billboard Steve. He can't understand why someone who claims to be the "hi sec candidate" would actually ever leave the safety blanket of hi sec when you can wardec corps to blow up their towers and mining ships, and bait noobs into duels in perfect safety.
No real hi sec candidate would engage in PvP where the enemy shoots back.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2974
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:35:00 -
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You know, Steve, I didn't have you on my list before, but your forthrightness in this thread is making me consider it.
So far for me it's just Mynna, Monk, Ali Arias, and Psianh Auvyander, that have been locked in. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
856
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:00:00 -
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I will vote for whoever James 315 tells me to, in whatever order he decides is best. Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory.-áAll miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code.-áMining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com to learn more. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14012
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:19:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Can not bring myself to vote for anyone Affiliated with: CFC HERO BOT N3 PL
Not sure what other choices there are (none of the above will champion my wants and needs).
Since Tri is (I presume?) still a 0.0 alliance, your interests have far more in common with members of the above alliances than in opposition.
In any case, it's largely irrelevent. the CSM isn't a forum to promote alliance or bloc interest.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14012
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:20:00 -
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Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:I will confine my list of possible candidates to those who do not in any way represent any of the null security space power blocks.
Which is to say, I will not be voting.
Doesn't vote
Won't run
Is bitter about being unrepresented
:You:
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14012
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:22:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Whomever will be the hisec "buff wardecs" and "stop the nerfs" candidate (who isn't a typical nullsec "there is no pew in hisec" elitist) gets my vote.
So Manga Solaris, then?
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:p.s. Its time for regional representation on the CSM CCP, with 72% of people living in hisec CSM seats should be reserved for 3-4 hisec candidates.
Not doing so just re-enforces the sham nature of the CSM IMHO.
F
Such a system would be ridiculously easy to game with alts, and incredibly difficult to administer. It's a bad idea that has been comprehensively discredited, and you should feel bad for still wanting it.
1 Kings 12:11
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admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
899
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:29:00 -
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Fan Duk wrote:Who is the Carebear-Dilettante-Newbie-Fail candidate? I'll try to vote but i might misclick. 
That would have been Doomsdale, but he's citing fears of RL abuse from the cartels as his excuse for not stepping up. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Prince Kobol
1440
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:44:00 -
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How great would it be if CCP put the option of "none of the above" on the voting forms  |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
499
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:53:00 -
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Write in vote for Cannibal Kane
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14012
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:06:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:How great would it be if CCP put the option of "none of the above" on the voting forms 
Then people could be smug and self righteous and disenfranchising themselves!
1 Kings 12:11
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Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2618
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:58:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:How great would it be if CCP put the option of "none of the above" on the voting forms  Then people could be smug and self righteous and disenfranchising themselves! less than one percent of voters in the csm7 election abstained
including the option is a waste of time to please people more interested in whining |

Prince Kobol
1441
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:13:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Malcanis wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:How great would it be if CCP put the option of "none of the above" on the voting forms  Then people could be smug and self righteous and disenfranchising themselves! less than one percent of voters in the csm7 election abstained including the option is a waste of time to please people more interested in whining
What percentage of subscribed players voted in the last election?
Having the option of none of the above will give people a chance to show their dissatisfaction with the whole CSM or would this be a bad thing? |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2618
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:28:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:What percentage of subscribed players voted in the last election? more than any previous, due to the ongoing success of the csm |

Tronjay the'3rd
IGNOTUS AGENDA
58
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:37:00 -
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I'll vote for everyone who is not CFC.
Anyway, CSM was a farce past few years.
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Sun Tzu-á-¬ |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
597
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Posted - 2014.03.07 15:55:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:p.s. Its time for regional representation on the CSM CCP, with 72% of people living in hisec CSM seats should be reserved for 3-4 hisec candidates. Not doing so just re-enforces the sham nature of the CSM IMHO. F
Malcanis wrote: Such a system would be ridiculously easy to game with alts, and incredibly difficult to administer. It's a bad idea that has been comprehensively discredited, and you should feel bad for still wanting it.
Well as it is I just can't swallow the sham and faux-democracy nature of a player-elected CSM that espouses to represent all of New Eden, while ultimately just consolidating power for nullsec blocs.
You see, my math was wrong, at 72% of hisec population -- 10 of the 14 current spots should actually be reserved for people who live in hisec...
...for its in that disparity between repeated nullsec dominance on the CSM and actual population density that the CSM is revealed as the sham faux-democracy it is.
Given this disparity, why should anyone outside of nullsec give a flying f#ck about the CSM?
Would you like to know more? |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1327
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:11:00 -
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I'll vote for whomever my alliance tells me to vote for.
Democracy, **** yeah. |

Don Aubaris
69
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:36:00 -
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I find it very un-Eve like that I cannot put my vote in a contract going to the highest bidder. 
After all CSM has almost all the letters of SCAM. Seems only right we make a buck on it 
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Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
53
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:16:00 -
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Well, I completed my first pass through 34 CSM9 candidates. Even though it was a cursory first pass the going was hard and daunting. So many people, so many views, so many attitudes. It struck me quite early on though that I could identify with very very few of the candidates.
Many candidates didn't want me to identify with them. They explicitly represented a single clique to which I do not identify. Which, in a democracy, is a valid position. Not really helpful to Capsuleers wishing to explore the wider aspects of the Eve Universe.
The usual joke candidates. As per usual wasting my time and limited energy. Worthy of a slight smile, then two to the heart and one to the head.
Capsuleer candidates who have been around too long. Their sandbox has turned into a steel cage; immutable. It's a sandbox, yes, if you play their way with their objectives. And if you like their silly distractions.
Some of the candidates have a long history of being elaborately wordy or chatty. TL;DR.
Of course, the odd idiot candidate. The virtual world can do terrible things to a human being. Sad to see.
So this is my watch list. Later, I'll go through the whole shebang again for additions and deletions. Hopefully these Capsuleer CSM Candidates see the Eve Universe as a tree, growing over time, into an arboreal beauty with just a few harsh, hardening Winters to mature its character ... as opposed to a conical spire, pointy, rising high.
If the vote was held today:
Sugar Kyle
Ali Aras
Mike Azariah
Roland Cassidy
Matias Otero
Asayanami Dei
Psianh Auvyander
Draleth
Azami Nevinyrall
Lisara Khatam
I have attached no comments to them other than their announcement link. Form your own opinions.
Oscillate all EVE systems (-1.0-áthrough 1.0, and back) over a ten year period; modified +/- by # of pod kills. Disentrench the older players! Improve game dynamic.
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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
226
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:42:00 -
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Entirely appropriate to be pissed off about a group of players that volunteer their time to try to shape a hobby.
Are they evasive because they signed an NDA? Yeah, I also think that sucks. Transparency would make them seem less like aloof jerks, even when they can't help it.
Are they trying to screw you? Mostly no. Mostly they want the same thing you want; A better way to fritter away their pointless existense.
If you care enough to ***** about a CSM on the Eve Forums, then you should have enough free time to figure out what value they add to EvE; which is input based on whatever their playstyle is on EvE's future.
You think these guys wander around town saying 'I'm EvE famous,' at the bar to pick up women?
Please also be the guy that doesn't vote and then wonders why your property tax went up on a narrowly approved bill.
-End Rant-
Also, yes - some of the CSMs are probably ###hats. |

Alex Grison
Grison Industrial Group
861
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:58:00 -
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vote for me sometimes.
I will bring the mangus to all of you.
yes |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1012
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Posted - 2014.03.07 22:04:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote: Please also be the guy that doesn't vote and then wonders why your property tax went up on a narrowly approved bill.
This as always.
Vote or you have no right to complain about them doing it wrong ;)
Vote for Fuzzy Steve! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
495
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:13:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Sugar Kyle for CSM. Lowsec pirates need love, too. And Kyle will make sure we get it.
I would also add a vote for DJ Funkybacon to that list as well, man knows his **** and if we're really lucky both of them get in and we get twice the representation. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
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