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Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.26 10:52:00 - [1] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/04/2006 10:53:51 My shuttle just got ganked in Sivala. I was carrying a few millions worth of... tech 2 BPCs... (IIRC the mods don't have a problem with posting your own mail, so I'll post it here. If you guys have a problem, delete it, or remove the name of the person who killed me if thats the only problem.) 2006.04.26 10:46 Victim: Dark Shikari Alliance: Firmus Ixion Corp: Imperium Technologies Destroyed: Amarr Shuttle System: Sivala Security: 0.6 Involved parties: Name: Ruxandra (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Alliance: None Corp: Brutor tribe Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Beam Laser II Destroyed items: Expanded Cargohold I Blueprint (Cargo) Expanded Cargohold I Blueprint (Cargo) Yes, this suicide ganker just sacrificed a T2 fitted geddon for my 25-run remote sensor damp II BPC and two expanded cargohold I... BPCs. I should do this more often. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:00:00 - [2] ... and they say 0.0 is more hazardous to health. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:04:00 - [3] erm... rofles? so a T2 geddon worth arround... 150mil or smth? ...for a bpc worth arround.... 20mil at most? ...high-sec ganking is becoming mindless I say ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Splagada how can you be sure this geddon died? (newbie here, curious!!) .6 sec system. he must die to concord or it will be deemed exploit. ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Splagada	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:06:00 - [5] how can you be sure this geddon died? (newbie here, curious!!) - Member of [AAST] do
Splagada	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:07:00 - [6] cant you escape concord? - Member of [AAST] do
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? even if you can, youre not allowed to... ---- Manfred Doomhammer CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Impossible... ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Splagada	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:10:00 - [9] no police vs criminal fights then, that's too bad - Member of [AAST] do
Khabok	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:10:00 - [10] Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! _______________________________________________

Syrec	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Splagada no police vs criminal fights then, that's too bad There used to be.

Chribba	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:14:00 - [12] That is one advantage of the blueprints not showing if it is a BPO or BPC. Maybe I should make a few runs with a 1-run Cap Recharger II BPC seeing them lose their bs'es In the long run I think they will lose interest of these types of crimes. EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:18:00 - [13] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/04/2006 11:18:21 Originally by: Chribba That is one advantage of the blueprints not showing if it is a BPO or BPC. Maybe I should make a few runs with a 1-run Cap Recharger II BPC seeing them lose their bs'es In the long run I think they will lose interest of these types of crimes. Can I have a few 1-run prints please? /me wants to teach kids that crime doesnt pay... ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:19:00 - [14] Hmm, funny. I've got some t2 ship and mod bpcs too. Maybe I should use them as bait, when I'm bored ... and try to grab the can of the bs with an alt. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Odda	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Syrec Originally by: Splagada no police vs criminal fights then, that's too bad There used to be. Done it on the test server somtimes, you wil die fast :)

Redundancy	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:22:00 - [16] Edited by: Redundancy on 26/04/2006 11:25:36 Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. (This is a movie reference.)

Splagada	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:23:00 - [17] in french it means what he says :p dunno in english, but is it really english here? :p - Member of [AAST] do
Tedeski	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Redundancy Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! I do not think it means what you think it means. Inconceivable!
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:26:00 - [19] Originally by: Tedeski Originally by: Redundancy Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! I do not think it means what you think it means. Inconceivable! In-inconceivable! ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tedeski Originally by: Redundancy Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! I do not think it means what you think it means. Inconceivable! In-inconceivable! it's very conceivable! ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.

Smagd	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:33:00 - [21] It is inconceivable. Prepare to die!
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:44:00 - [22] LMAO, nice one DS... think I just found a good reason for being in Jita etc. afterall. And for the record everybody in this thread is weird. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Kaaii	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:48:00 - [23] how does he still have a 0.0 sec status? "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.." Tradeing 101
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:50:00 - [24] Originally by: Dark Shikari (IIRC the mods don't have a problem with posting your own mail, so I'll post it here. If you guys have a problem, delete it, or remove the name of the person who killed me if thats the only problem.) Uhhh, where is this rule stated? Its not on the rules link on the left and not in a sticky for this forum? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Noluck Ned	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:51:00 - [25] What I find inconcievable is the fact that my corp mate was attacked in jita by not 1 but 2 BS while he was carrying nothing but a hold full of ammo and full rack of T2 mods in his Raven. Sadly I was not there to witness the chaos which followed as he proceeded to tank the would be muggers till concord wacked em for him. So lets sum this up......2 battleships were lost for no gain whatsoever. Maybe they hoped he was travelling AFK or something, but still, the mods he had fitted might have covered one and a half insurance payments for the destroyed ships, but as it now stands the poor fools are in the red by several million in insurance cover per ship. So Go ahead DS.....Bait em mate.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.04.26 11:52:00 - [26] You can avoid Concord if you're in a fast and agile ship - sometimes. And it is 'legal' to escape. The tiniest amount of lag or delay on your side and your ship's gone. A Mega doesn't fall into that group so he'd probably just have lost the ship. The ship will have been fully insured, and a collector will have been right there too, so he'll have lost only half the equipment. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Tachy You can avoid Concord if you're in a fast and agile ship - sometimes. And it is 'legal' to escape. The tiniest amount of lag or delay on your side and your ship's gone. A Mega doesn't fall into that group so he'd probably just have lost the ship. The ship will have been fully insured, and a collector will have been right there too, so he'll have lost only half the equipment. You can not avoid Concord. You kill non-war targets in >= 0.5 systems, you MUST lose ship. If you dont, you will be ganked by GMs. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Trinity MaXjolt	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:05:00 - [28] Edited by: Trinity MaXjolt on 26/04/2006 12:06:07 Originally by: Splagada how can you be sure this geddon died? (newbie here, curious!!) I was there, believe me, he DIED. edit : Not part of it, BTW - just passing through at the "right" time, lol
Voculus	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:10:00 - [29] Edited by: Voculus on 26/04/2006 12:10:42 Originally by: Chribba That is one advantage of the blueprints not showing if it is a BPO or BPC. Maybe I should make a few runs with a 1-run Cap Recharger II BPC seeing them lose their bs'es In the long run I think they will lose interest of these types of crimes. Now that is a killer idea! EDIT: Jita, here I come, baby!
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:16:00 - [30] Originally by: Trinity MaXjolt Edited by: Trinity MaXjolt on 26/04/2006 12:06:07 Originally by: Splagada how can you be sure this geddon died? (newbie here, curious!!) I was there, believe me, he DIED. edit : Not part of it, BTW - just passing through at the "right" time, lol LOL--I totally missed it--I was afk. I assumed someone else got the loot, so I didn't go back a jump to get it [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.

AlleyKat	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:18:00 - [31] Firing a missile 1 millisecond before warp drive engages? The Avalon Foundation Recruitment Film (right-click, save as)
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:21:00 - [32] Originally by: AlleyKat Firing a missile 1 millisecond before warp drive engages? CONCORD will jump on you the instant you get out of warp [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Kyozoku	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:26:00 - [33] it would be better to sit next to them and grab their loot before they do. it can be quite profitable as well
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: AlleyKat Firing a missile 1 millisecond before warp drive engages? CONCORD will jump on you the instant you get out of warp Not if you log while in warp. I've seen people survive concord 3-4 times. One time was in a fleet, someone hit the wrong target and concord spawned just as the gang leader hit gang warp. The guy wasn't scrambled so he followed in the gang warp, logged in mid warp. When we landed at the safespot his ship just sat there, no concord followed (since he had logged). 15 minutes later he logged back in and was still alive. Another time was frapsed and you can see it in emsigma's movie vs ascn. Basically, this war target was sniping at the station, he hit the wrong guy. I was sitting near a enemy safespot in my covert at that time, scanning people down. People was laughing on ventrilo about him getting concorded, then I suddenly saw him flash on my overview (he warped past me) and also noticed him logging off. Opened scanner, hmm, 1 bs within 1 au.. I guess he survived.. dropped 3 probes.. found him and blew him up.. dropped 3 more, scanned for pod, popped it :) VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:50:00 - [35] Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: AlleyKat Firing a missile 1 millisecond before warp drive engages? CONCORD will jump on you the instant you get out of warp Not if you log while in warp. I've seen people survive concord 3-4 times. One time was in a fleet, someone hit the wrong target and concord spawned just as the gang leader hit gang warp. The guy wasn't scrambled so he followed in the gang warp, logged in mid warp. When we landed at the safespot his ship just sat there, no concord followed (since he had logged). 15 minutes later he logged back in and was still alive. Another time was frapsed and you can see it in emsigma's movie vs ascn. Basically, this war target was sniping at the station, he hit the wrong guy. I was sitting near a enemy safespot in my covert at that time, scanning people down. People was laughing on ventrilo about him getting concorded, then I suddenly saw him flash on my overview (he warped past me) and also noticed him logging off. Opened scanner, hmm, 1 bs within 1 au.. I guess he survived.. dropped 3 probes.. found him and blew him up.. dropped 3 more, scanned for pod, popped it :) Incongruable!
dazedandconfused	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:55:00 - [36] Not quite in line with BPCs, but a recent experience with suicide gankers none the less. There was a suicide Geddon near Jita, almost got my Crane carrying a Centum x-type large armor rep, Centum nano resist, and a 1.1375 officer HS. Boy was I nervous for the two seconds it took to zoom towards the gate. I guess I need to get bookmarks.
Jagaroth	Posted - 2006.04.26 12:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tachy Stuff You can not avoid Concord. You kill non-war targets in >= 0.5 systems, you MUST lose ship. If you dont, you will be ganked by GMs. Jen learnt this very early in her EVE career. ------
Ashraaf	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:27:00 - [38] Originally by: Equinox II One time was in a fleet, someone hit the wrong target and concord spawned just as the gang leader hit gang warp. The guy wasn't scrambled so he followed in the gang warp, logged in mid warp. When we landed at the safespot his ship just sat there, no concord followed (since he had logged). 15 minutes later he logged back in and was still alive. My question is: Is it an exploit to do that, Log on in mid warp to avoid concordocking. If it's an exploit i prefer concordocken to gmban
Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:30:00 - [39] Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 26/04/2006 13:34:24 Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Escaping Concord, no matter how you do it, is ALWAYS an exploit. Even if you do it without ANY sort of hack, it is still an exploit.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:30:00 - [40] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire You can not avoid Concord. You kill non-war targets in >= 0.5 systems, you MUST lose ship. If you dont, you will be ganked by GMs. Where is your proof? All you can find on the topic from ccp is 'Concord will hunt the offender and he'll get a security hit.'. Whenever a Dev or GM has been asked about it, they muttered something obscure. The hardest announcement has been that the offender will have to bear the consequences if he used exploits to get away, including account bans. Not once have I seen an official state that it was impossible or illegal to get away from Concord. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray

Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:36:00 - [41] wtb 1 run copies of assorted T2 BPCs
jbob2000	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:37:00 - [42] dewd, use emptyt bpcs
Crumplecorn	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:37:00 - [43] You'd have to be insanely quick to escape them anyway. The only time I've seen them in action (being a noob and all) was in a sparring match where the other guy fired before I raided his can. I think he maybe scored one hit (maybe) before spontaneously exploding. It was practically instant. Truly they are the masters of wtfpwnage. ---------- Go here: http://www.student.ru.nl/martindevillers/tk8_outgame.html
Tachy	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:44:00 - [44] There are no 0-run BPC left these days. There was a nice fraps shootage where someone used smartbombs on a tanked BS to blow up a few suspected macrominerships in Jita. He sat in his pod in well under 2seconds after activating the first SB. Concord dropped out of warp in roughly .8 seconds. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:53:00 - [45] Originally by: Tachy There are no 0-run BPC left these days. Yes there are. I have hundreds saved from pre-patch [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:57:00 - [46] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy There are no 0-run BPC left these days. Yes there are. I have hundreds saved from pre-patch You can have mine :\| Cultural AttachT of the Omber Administration
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.04.26 13:57:00 - [47] WTB cra**Y BPC perhaps the very basic basic ones no one uses (anyone with a t2 miner II) run a few hundred copies sell em around hte place and then give them to ppl to run past suicide gankers with that will soon stop em if they cant tell if they are BPOs or BPCs. Good work guys if we blow enough of these toons up with their own stupidity (take a corp buddy to loot their uber can drops)
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:01:00 - [48] Edited by: Berak FalCheran on 26/04/2006 14:05:08 I endorse this tactic wholeheartedly. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tachy You can avoid Concord if you're in a fast and agile ship - sometimes. And it is 'legal' to escape. The tiniest amount of lag or delay on your side and your ship's gone. A Mega doesn't fall into that group so he'd probably just have lost the ship. The ship will have been fully insured, and a collector will have been right there too, so he'll have lost only half the equipment. You can not avoid Concord. You kill non-war targets in >= 0.5 systems, you MUST lose ship. If you dont, you will be ganked by GMs. What Tachy may mean... you CAN escape a faction navy gank squad however (the things that shoot you if you're an outlaw in high-sec). But never CONCORD. Small but important distinction. I make bizarre sigs
Bazman	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:05:00 - [49] hmm, i do believe i have a 0 run Rattlesnake BPC :D ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:09:00 - [50] Originally by: Berak FalCheran What Tachy may mean... you CAN escape a faction navy gank squad however (the things that shoot you if you're an outlaw in high-sec). But never CONCORD. Small but important distinction. And - as said above - even you manage to find some way of escaping CONCORD, it's automatically an exploit. If you commit acts of aggression in high-sec space, it is a requirement of game rules that your ship be destroyed. CONCORD gankage is just a better way of implementing this than having your ship automatically explode underneath you. I don't even know if it's still possible to escape CONCORD - they were massively beefed up after a bunch of people got banned for doing so - but don't even try. You either lose your ship, or lose your account, pick which you prefer ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."

monkiboi	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:11:00 - [51] Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! Ah Zombies One of my most memorable nights in Eve. I rarely visited Yulai but on that night by coincidence my route took me through there. It made me realise the possibilites Eve had.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:12:00 - [52] Edited by: j0sephine on 26/04/2006 14:12:30 "My question is: Is it an exploit to do that, Log on in mid warp to avoid concordocking." Yes. CONCORD is just thin 'roleplay layer' put in game so your ship doesn't auto-explode the very moment you do something bad ... which would be supposedly immersion-breaker. Trying to cheat your way out of it is considered an exploit -- as evidenced by number of threads discussing this kind of tactics in 'Crime & Punishment' which have been locked and purged with exactly this justification ("exploit discussion") edit: meh Baldour has Rapid Typing 5 and i don't :<
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:13:00 - [53] Incognito! (This is beginning to sound like some sort of Harry Potter thing) But yeah, DS is onto something. We all need to start flying arourd in shuttles with 0-run T2 BPO's.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:14:00 - [54] Originally by: j0sephine edit: meh Baldour has Rapid Typing 5 and i don't :< After twenty-five years of messing around with keyboards, I ought to do ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Torrence Osti	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:16:00 - [55] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tachy You can avoid Concord if you're in a fast and agile ship - sometimes. And it is 'legal' to escape. The tiniest amount of lag or delay on your side and your ship's gone. A Mega doesn't fall into that group so he'd probably just have lost the ship. The ship will have been fully insured, and a collector will have been right there too, so he'll have lost only half the equipment. You can not avoid Concord. You kill non-war targets in >= 0.5 systems, you MUST lose ship. If you dont, you will be ganked by GMs. Really? How does that work? How do the GMs know someone got away?
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:18:00 - [56] Originally by: Torrence Osti Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tachy You can avoid Concord if you're in a fast and agile ship - sometimes. And it is 'legal' to escape. The tiniest amount of lag or delay on your side and your ship's gone. A Mega doesn't fall into that group so he'd probably just have lost the ship. The ship will have been fully insured, and a collector will have been right there too, so he'll have lost only half the equipment. You can not avoid Concord. You kill non-war targets in >= 0.5 systems, you MUST lose ship. If you dont, you will be ganked by GMs. Really? How does that work? How do the GMs know someone got away? I think when victim whines and GM checks killer logs and finds no lossmail. GM shows ban-stick. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Sakura Nihil	Posted - 2006.04.26 14:47:00 - [57] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 26/04/2006 14:47:24 Originally by: Chrais Mrisith Even better, tank up a transport ship or something and when he dies, take his stuff. Bwahaha. QFT, turn the tables on those suicide gankers until they stop attacking you , you can have fun and maybe make profit out of it.
iggy6662k2	Posted - 2006.04.26 15:02:00 - [58] Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? yes its been done before (even in the most recent build of TQ), but i heard its exploiting if you do. ------ Sig filesize must be no more than 24000 bytes. Mail [email protected] if you have any questions - Cathath my sig is fine www.cosmic.griefwatch.net
Lurtz	Posted - 2006.04.26 15:09:00 - [59] I used to do this with 0 run prints, but they took them out
JagdWulfe	Posted - 2006.04.26 15:16:00 - [60] I think I may have to experiment with this and see how much money I make :)

Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.04.26 16:43:00 - [61] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy There are no 0-run BPC left these days. Yes there are. I have hundreds saved from pre-patch time for you to load up about 50 of them and sit at a jita gate in a Badger Mark I.... then have an alt in another hauler to come grab the the cans from your hauler and from his gankraven.

Chribba	Posted - 2006.04.26 17:49:00 - [62] About Concord, I have managed to warp away when exiting the station as the anti lock timer seem to apply to them too. However my shuttle was taken out right when I came out of warp, but warping after commiting the crime would have to be timed pretty good. Plus I can tank concord several seconds in my dread EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Wrench Head	Posted - 2006.04.26 17:52:00 - [63] I will be making 1 run copies of my favorite crappy BPC and will be giving them away this week to random passerbys and such. Everyone gets a free one (while supplies last) to carry as good luck. This empire suicide thingy is hilarious to say the least. p.s. please dont spam me or reply to my post. I am just being Wrench Head (role playing) "Yes, I am the biggest Tool in the Galaxy" "If it aint broke, I cant fix it"
B0rn2KiLL	Posted - 2006.04.26 17:57:00 - [64] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tedeski Originally by: Redundancy Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! I do not think it means what you think it means. Inconceivable! In-inconceivable! it's very conceivable! no. nice going robot-man =] --- new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
Sensor Error	Posted - 2006.04.26 18:17:00 - [65] Originally by: Equinox II Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: AlleyKat Firing a missile 1 millisecond before warp drive engages? CONCORD will jump on you the instant you get out of warp Not if you log while in warp. I've seen people survive concord 3-4 times. One time was in a fleet, someone hit the wrong target and concord spawned just as the gang leader hit gang warp. The guy wasn't scrambled so he followed in the gang warp, logged in mid warp. When we landed at the safespot his ship just sat there, no concord followed (since he had logged). 15 minutes later he logged back in and was still alive. Another time was frapsed and you can see it in emsigma's movie vs ascn. Basically, this war target was sniping at the station, he hit the wrong guy. I was sitting near a enemy safespot in my covert at that time, scanning people down. People was laughing on ventrilo about him getting concorded, then I suddenly saw him flash on my overview (he warped past me) and also noticed him logging off. Opened scanner, hmm, 1 bs within 1 au.. I guess he survived.. dropped 3 probes.. found him and blew him up.. dropped 3 more, scanned for pod, popped it :) This is an exploit. Concord have decree'd that if you do anything warranting a concord response, YOU MUST DIE. Doing ANYTHING to circumvent the death penalty is an exploit. CCP have said this time and time again... If you see anyone doing it, immediately file a petition under exploit. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! do ------------------------------------------
Sensor Error	Posted - 2006.04.26 18:21:00 - [66] Originally by: Tachy There are no 0-run BPC left these days. There was a nice fraps shootage where someone used smartbombs on a tanked BS to blow up a few suspected macrominerships in Jita. He sat in his pod in well under 2seconds after activating the first SB. Concord dropped out of warp in roughly .8 seconds. This one you mean? RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! do ------------------------------------------
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.26 19:43:00 - [67] Originally by: B0rn2KiLL Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Tedeski Originally by: Redundancy Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! I do not think it means what you think it means. Inconceivable! In-inconceivable! it's very conceivable! no. nice going robot-man =] yes? and i'm not the robot-man! pouts ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.26 19:55:00 - [68] Originally by: Grimpak and i'm not the robot-man! I think he's referring to me [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.04.26 20:04:00 - [69] The S&I change made all my 0-run BPC disappear. Those in the hangar, those in the corp hangar and those from cans. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.26 21:17:00 - [70] Originally by: Tachy The S&I change made all my 0-run BPC disappear. Those in the hangar, those in the corp hangar and those from cans. Yup, you're right, same with mine. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.

Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2006.04.26 21:32:00 - [71] a pity i wasnt there to loot everything :(
Nyabinghi	Posted - 2006.04.26 22:07:00 - [72] But if his ship was insured...I dunno. Guess it would've been smarter to not use T2 gear against a shuttle in high sec when you know you're gonna get blown up for it. I betcha if you spammed space with enough shuttles the ones carrying the real valuable stuff could get through. SHUTTLE SPAM JITA!
Fester Addams	Posted - 2006.04.27 00:19:00 - [73] Originally by: Redundancy Edited by: Redundancy on 26/04/2006 11:25:36 Originally by: Khabok Originally by: Splagada cant you escape concord? Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. (This is a movie reference.) I wonder if anyone but me got the movie reference... Replies seem to indicate no but you never know. We are men of action, lies do not become us.
Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.04.27 00:21:00 - [74] Originally by: Nyabinghi But if his ship was insured...I dunno. Guess it would've been smarter to not use T2 gear against a shuttle in high sec when you know you're gonna get blown up for it. I betcha if you spammed space with enough shuttles the ones carrying the real valuable stuff could get through. SHUTTLE SPAM JITA! Goonfleet should do this, when there is a ganker in Jita fly in 300 shuttles and start bumping him.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.27 00:47:00 - [75] Someone apparently successfully implemented the BPC strategy on a group of gankers. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.27 00:47:00 - [76] Edited by: Nyphur on 27/04/2006 00:48:41 Originally by: Chribba Plus I can tank concord several seconds in my dread With enough isk, you can make a ship that can tank concord indefinitely. I will not say how and I will not use it - I'm waiting for concord to be buffed up, though. It's just a ship design since there's no test server to test it on, of ccourse, but I'm confident it would work. With all these new T2 and faction ships and mods, they need a good increase. EDIT: And yes, tanking concord on tranquility is deemed an exploit. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.27 00:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Dark Shikari Someone apparently successfully implemented the BPC strategy on a group of gankers. Looks like a Raven blueprint and a megathron blueprint. Surely they wouldn't assume those to be originals? O_o. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
DeathTrip	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:01:00 - [78] You cant tell they are BPC's from the ship/cargo scanner , at least i dont think u can .
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:03:00 - [79] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Dark Shikari Someone apparently successfully implemented the BPC strategy on a group of gankers. Looks like a Raven blueprint and a megathron blueprint. Surely they wouldn't assume those to be originals? O_o. Apparently they did He purposely bought them to try this with the campers. Note the module setup... [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:05:00 - [80] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Dark Shikari Someone apparently successfully implemented the BPC strategy on a group of gankers. Looks like a Raven blueprint and a megathron blueprint. Surely they wouldn't assume those to be originals? O_o. you expect empire space Suicide pirates to be the brightest lightbulbs?

Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:06:00 - [81] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Dark Shikari Someone apparently successfully implemented the BPC strategy on a group of gankers. Looks like a Raven blueprint and a megathron blueprint. Surely they wouldn't assume those to be originals? O_o. you expect empire space Suicide pirates to be the brightest lightbulbs? Well if they're using Tech II stuff and about 10 battleships, I'd say no ;) Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Ling Xiao	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:08:00 - [82] Haha cool trick!
Arkanor	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:20:00 - [83] Originally by: Chribba Maybe I should make a few runs with a 1-run Cap Recharger II BPC seeing them lose their bs'es I think someone could have a great deal of fun with a HAC-BP copy. ________________________________________________ Originally by: Kadrush I want a Death Star to mine Veldspar Yes I made the pic before I saw this
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:21:00 - [84] Originally by: Arkanor Originally by: Chribba Maybe I should make a few runs with a 1-run Cap Recharger II BPC seeing them lose their bs'es I think someone could have a great deal of fun with a HAC-BP copy. But those are worth almost as much as a BS [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:28:00 - [85] thats why you move the HAC BPC in something that can take a few punches. such as a deep space hauler with all the proper slots devoted to raw tankage. then hit Jita. and loot the cans of the BS that tries to gank ya, if your lucky you might nab some T2 or named seige launchers.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:29:00 - [86] Now if they only had let us keep expired copies, think of all the shuttles with 0 run tech II prints there would be traversing Jita all day every day. Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:40:00 - [87] Originally by: Dark Shikari Someone apparently successfully implemented the BPC strategy on a group of gankers. Beautiful
Evil Oreo	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:53:00 - [88] sucks 4 u
Chips Ahoy	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:54:00 - [89] indeed it does This space for rent
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.04.27 01:56:00 - [90] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 27/04/2006 00:48:41 Originally by: Chribba Plus I can tank concord several seconds in my dread With enough isk, you can make a ship that can tank concord indefinitely. I will not say how and I will not use it - I'm waiting for concord to be buffed up, though. It's just a ship design since there's no test server to test it on, of ccourse, but I'm confident it would work. With all these new T2 and faction ships and mods, they need a good increase. EDIT: And yes, tanking concord on tranquility is deemed an exploit. Surely this is impossible. Concord seem to spawn an ever expanding fleet of ships the longer you survive an attack, so how can you keep tanking an exponentially increasing number of ships without dying? I know of the warp with a freighter exploit but its such an arse to sort out that I doubt anyone would even attempt it. ----- If you kill all the wolves, your gonna end up with a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people Eve & Linux Woot!

Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.27 02:13:00 - [91] Originally by: M3ta7h3ad Surely this is impossible. Concord seem to spawn an ever expanding fleet of ships the longer you survive an attack, so how can you keep tanking an exponentially increasing number of ships without dying? It doesn't increase, it's a set little spawn. It only increases if you kill the concord ships. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
mahhy	Posted - 2006.04.27 02:35:00 - [92] Edited by: mahhy on 27/04/2006 02:35:49 Originally by: Fester Addams I wonder if anyone but me got the movie reference... Replies seem to indicate no but you never know. We are men of action, lies do not become us. Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. edit: one of the greatest movies of all time
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.27 03:13:00 - [93] Originally by: Splagada how can you be sure this geddon died? (newbie here, curious!!) Because if you shoot someone who isn't flagged for you, your ship goes boom, period. You don't escape CONCORD, you just hope the raping of your ship isn't too painful. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Andargor theWise	Posted - 2006.04.27 03:32:00 - [94] Originally by: mahhy Edited by: mahhy on 27/04/2006 02:35:49 Originally by: Fester Addams I wonder if anyone but me got the movie reference... Replies seem to indicate no but you never know. We are men of action, lies do not become us. Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. edit: one of the greatest movies of all time Inigo Montoya: Who are you? Westley: No one of consequence. Inigo Montoya: I must know. Westley: Get used to disappointment. Andargor
Phelan Lore	Posted - 2006.04.27 04:07:00 - [95] Is concord harder to evade than the customs agents? It's pretty easy to get through systems in a frig with an MWD, even going to stations and docking and such. I don't see how it would be much different to Align, gank somebody, and insta to to a gate out of highsec, or a station. ________________ ~Phelan Lore Your isk has become my isk, by way of my actions...
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.27 04:08:00 - [96] Edited by: Nyphur on 27/04/2006 04:08:07 Originally by: Phelan Lore Is concord harder to evade than the customs agents? It's pretty easy to get through systems in a frig with an MWD, even going to stations and docking and such. I don't see how it would be much different to Align, gank somebody, and insta to to a gate out of highsec, or a station. You can't use stations or gates when concord flagged, I think. And they follow you in warp. And as soon as they attack, you're webbed and scrambled. No chance to get out then. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Farjung	Posted - 2006.04.27 05:15:00 - [97] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy There are no 0-run BPC left these days. Yes there are. I have hundreds saved from pre-patch You sure? All my 0-runs were swiped from my hangar when the patch hit :\. --- Reckless Wave of Mutilation
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.04.27 05:57:00 - [98] what in the heck happened to using Caracals for high sec hits? Im pretty sure a caracal loaded with assaults on high coulda done the job for a lot cheaper. Not to mention they would have made a few mil profit from a BPC
Tachy	Posted - 2006.04.27 07:09:00 - [99] Concord warps in when you launch the missiles, not when they hit. When your ship is gone, your missiles wont detonate. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2006.04.27 07:58:00 - [100] Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 27/04/2006 07:57:57 Originally by: M3ta7h3ad I know of the warp with a freighter exploit but its such an arse to sort out that I doubt anyone would even attempt it. I've read the idea, and I believe that's impossible... I've tried making as farthest BM as I could, and the best I've got is around 340au bm. From there Observator tends to give much more BMs that are closer to the sun than even farther ones. In other words, it seems like the farther you are from the sun, the less there is a probability for Observator to give you the direction away from it... Yes, the ship I scanned for has always been about 1 au away from me, and I've launched new Observator to use at each new point. So even if you manage to make 450au+ bm, this makes 15 minutes warp... However, don't you need 30 min for aggro to wear off? Oh well even if 15 min is enough, you can't have enough capacitor to jump that far.. you'll prolly stop about mid-way to meet some Concord BSes greating you.

Alberta	Posted - 2006.04.27 09:00:00 - [101] Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy There are no 0-run BPC left these days. Yes there are. I have hundreds saved from pre-patch You sure? All my 0-runs were swiped from my hangar when the patch hit :\. I suspect either ones in cans or ships, possibly both, escaped the net. My Thoughts on Game Balance
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.04.27 09:30:00 - [102] mmm well i think they will need some teaching but hey folks fee free to name and shame and then fly past in a cheapie t2 BPC
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.04.27 09:59:00 - [103] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: M3ta7h3ad Surely this is impossible. Concord seem to spawn an ever expanding fleet of ships the longer you survive an attack, so how can you keep tanking an exponentially increasing number of ships without dying? It doesn't increase, it's a set little spawn. It only increases if you kill the concord ships. :o Seeing as tanking the customs agents is allowed... could you perhaps give us some info on tanking the customs agents? I've shot them previously in a shield tank caracal, I last long enough to realise that its only the custom agents that fire upon you, sentry guns dont fire. Which means in some systems its 3 frigate + 2 battleships. :) Surely thats tankable. :) ----- If you kill all the wolves, your gonna end up with a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people Eve & Linux Woot!
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.04.27 10:05:00 - [104] well too bad for them really.. "We brake for nobody"
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.27 10:16:00 - [105] Originally by: M3ta7h3ad :o Seeing as tanking the customs agents is allowed... could you perhaps give us some info on tanking the customs agents? I've shot them previously in a shield tank caracal, I last long enough to realise that its only the custom agents that fire upon you, sentry guns dont fire. Which means in some systems its 3 frigate + 2 battleships. :) Surely thats tankable. :) Hmm. That should be doable. Concord do silly high damage but Customs don't. Can you use a stargate with customs firing on you? If sentries don't fire at you when attacking customs, you could sit on a gate, fire at them and jump to see if it works. A few quick calculations of 3 customs frigs and 2 customs bs shows they're tankable with a good BS setup, probably just as easy with a HAC. They deal three damage types depending on race, which makes the HAC's natural resistances worthwhile over the BS's larger repair rate. I mean a normal decent tank will take care of customs, no need to break out all the faction gear and fancy tricks on this one. Fancy getting a job as a smuggler? Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.04.27 11:34:00 - [106] Edited by: M3ta7h3ad on 27/04/2006 11:35:00 lol :) well I believe they respawn (caracal lasted about 30 seconds but was firing heavies with full tank, so didnt last long enough to shoot down a frigate) but if all your doing is gate to gate smuggling, and can tank... It could be an option :) Problem with jumping is the 30second agression timer... you cant jump straight away as you get the "due to recent hostile actions.." Also.. the timer you get isnt a global criminal one, its the yellow faction is miffed at you one :) ----- If you kill all the wolves, your gonna end up with a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people Eve & Linux Woot!
BlackSunshine	Posted - 2006.04.27 15:48:00 - [107] Edited by: BlackSunshine on 27/04/2006 15:49:59 removed


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