No, because I do not lie to, or steal from people. The OP listed a clear situation where she was lied to with the intention of ruining her gameplay. I make the choice to not treat people like that. Am I bad person for something? Of course. We're all imperfect in one way or another. Mine just happens not to be my interaction with people. And since I make the choice to treat others fairly and with respect so long as they demonstrate their objective isn't to try and hurt me, that makes me a good person.

I do not play poker. Any reference you choose to make about poker I will remind you with the fact that it is a game I do not play.

Why is eve being full of scamers gankers bumpers and liars?

No, the mechanic by which they are scamming CCP into not banning them, which is most definitely breaking the spirit of the rules. And if they ever do make the impact they claim to want to make we'll see, but they will probably eventually realize that they are only depriving themselves of content by harassing newbies. And may grow some balls for shooting wars eventually.

Because the people only feel Important in the game as most can't contribute to the real world and boost their need of an ego by being the bad guys like ccp advertises " join eve online: be the bad guy."

I understand eve is free and no rules and blah blah blah. this isnt about ccp or how they manage stuff ... this is about comunity and how full of bad ppl it is! u cant even turn around without running into somone trying to take advantage of u with a lie or something! and its almost always not even for profit or money but just beign EVIL! i mean.... i once join a ""mining/industry"" corp and in 10 mins they try to gank my freighter with alot of battleships, why? and then i almost lose a orca with nothing expensive in hold or fit because of gank? i kno harasment is not alowed (even if alot of other stuff is) so is this even reportable?
anyway thats not the point, its more..... whyy?? why do ppl go to self harm ways to hurt others? is this how pleyers act IRL too? is eve space australia?

editing.... y all the hate ppl? pls stop trolling, im just trying to understand

I am alittle unsure here....are those tears or just a fog of tears with a potential downpour?

done shitting up the thread now? just an unproductive circlejerk that didnt answer the OP question and just make eve look like its full of asses. congrats u must be proud, trolls

done shitting up the thread now? just an unproductive circlejerk that didnt answer the OP question and just make eve look like its full of asses. congrats u must be proud, trolls

All this because I gave him 10mins warning to clear his cans, whereas I could have simply started taking them.

So who is the bad guy in this situation?
Who is the one with the attitude problem?

Actually the OPs question has been answered quite succinctly, repeatedly. Most of the shitting up of the thread has been from people who think that Eve should be something that it blatantly is not.

Because they're bad people. CCP set up an environment where bad people can do bad things. Being unable to do bad things IRL because of consequence, they flock to this game as an outlet to be their true selves.

But that's what makes people like you and I that much better at life and for the game. Because even in a cesspool of filth, we remain clean.

They're illogical and irrational. There's no other explanation. Trying to understand is a waste of your time.

There's no such thing as bad or good people.

Good luck with arguing that with him, he's of the opinion that people who make you explode in Eve are just as likely to murder you for loose change in real life, because what you do within the context of a game is a direct reflection of what you're like in real life.

There's no such thing as bad or good people.

Personally I feel the recurring theme of people landing in EvE and then railing against it's mechanics is one of a failure in education.

If CCP had a stark Tutorial #1 (like so), combined with an 'acceptance', there would be much less knock-on sperging later on...

We have all seen this in real life, tell a client up front about 'paper-cuts' and they are seen as paper cuts. Hide them in the short term for them to discover on their own (like crushing TiDi..ahem), and they are perceived as grievous arterial wounds.

F

bigots are real :D

I have proof The New Order idiots don't even know who has a permit.

http://tinypic.com/r/34gsdwo/8

I know for a fact that there is/was a spreadsheet that lists the names of all permit holders, and who sold them the permit.

Whether or not the spreadsheet is available to all New Order permit inspectors and still actively maintained would be a question that only CODE. members can answer.

That's the New Order's chat channel. That is their Permit Guru in chat saying he has NO CLUE who has a permit. Nuff said.

Sigh. As has been explained previously, all lists of permit holders are confidential and only a very few agents have access. This is to prevent retaliation against permit holders.

That's the New Order's chat channel. That is their Permit Guru in chat saying he has NO CLUE who has a permit. Nuff said.

I'm unfamiliar with Jared Lennox, it's been a while since I was an active participant in the NO chat channel. It may be that he's unaware of the existence of the records, has no access to the records for security purposes or that they are no longer maintained, either way permit holders are required to place a note in their bio listing the date of purchase and the agent who sold them it.

Any queries you have about the New Order's records would probably be best aimed at James 315, he'll be able to tell you whether or not the New Order still keeps a record of payments made for permits, if it's available to all agents and if the records are still actively updated.

Sigh. As has been explained previously, all lists of permit holders are confidential and only a very few agents have access. This is to prevent retaliation against permit holders.

That's my post on their forums that you are taking the reply from. I have called them out, They are full of ****. That is just an excuse. You refuse to believe what we already know, and that NO is actually quite unorganized, and has no clue about who has a permit and who doesn't. They failed at maintaining their own records. They are incompetent at best. If EVERY member had a copy of the record, there would be no need for fear of retaliation against permit data holders, as everyone would have the information, so that is logic fail.

Yea look at all the dudes who felt it was necessary to insult specific people simply because they possess a different opinion.

Disappointing