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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19982
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:21:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:A game driven by the choices of the individuals within. So you're saying that you're a bad person since you made the same choice, then.
Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:A game driven by the choices of the individuals within. So you're saying that you're a bad person since you made the same choice, then. Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar?
No, because I do not lie to, or steal from people. The OP listed a clear situation where she was lied to with the intention of ruining her gameplay. I make the choice to not treat people like that. Am I bad person for something? Of course. We're all imperfect in one way or another. Mine just happens not to be my interaction with people. And since I make the choice to treat others fairly and with respect as long as they prove they are of the same mentality, that makes me a good person.
I do not play poker. Any reference you choose to make about poker I will remind you with the fact that it is a game I do not play. |
Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
119
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:24:00 -
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Amusing thread 8/10 |
Dain Rokjaw
Shotguns and Duct Tape
24
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:24:00 -
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If this debate gets much further down the line, we'll have an arguement that says you can't bowl at a guy out at cricket (which is definitely a game) as it's deprived the player of his real-life right to score runs - that's not generally what they mean when referring to a "bad" bowler.... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19985
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:31:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:No, because I do not lie to, or steal from people. I have no evidence of this, so I must assume that you are a bad person. After all, you made the exact same choice as the people you're judging to be bad people.
Quote:I do not play poker. Irrelevant. Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
881
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:33:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:pls troll somewher else, im trying to have a discusion why do ppl always like ruining and being destructive even on forums... i just realize its not just ingame
Next up: Another player calls everyone who disagrees with her a troll! "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:35:00 -
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In Grand Theft Auto you can choose to obey the traffic laws. You can choose to not shoot anyone ever. You can choose to not steal or set things on fire.
Few people do this. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:No, because I do not lie to, or steal from people. I have no evidence of this, so I must assume that you are a bad person. After all, you made the exact same choice as the people you're judging to be bad people. Quote:I do not play poker. Irrelevant. Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar?
Based on my actions, you get to make your assumptions of who and what I am.
Me too, in regards to you.
We're the product of our actions. The reflection of our choices. People who do bad, are bad.
I don't play poker. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
270
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:38:00 -
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Divine, do you as aperson look like your avatar ingame? |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1464
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:39:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad.
Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19985
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:41:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Based on my actions, you get to make your assumptions of who and what I am. Your prejudice is not an assumption GÇö it's amply displayed in this and every other thread on the topic. Personally, I choose not to make the kind of assumptions you're so fond of, and the only actions of yours I've observed is that you choose to play EVE (which according to you makes someone a bad person) and that you make prejudiced claims about other players. So that's as far as I can ever go.
Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar? It's a very simple question and whether you, personally, play poker or not is completely irrelevant so you can drop that useless attempt at evading it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:43:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Divine, do you as aperson look like your avatar ingame?
I think it's rather inappropriate for you to be asking on a public forum about my appearance.
No avatar in any game ever could look as good as I do IRL. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:45:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad. Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy.
And again you're insinuating that you are exempt from the reactions to your actions.
How nice it must be, to live in a fairy tale where you get to pick and choose the consequences of your actions.
#accountability
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19988
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:46:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:And again you're insinuating that you are exempt from the reactions to your actions.
How nice it must be, to live in a fairy tale where you get to pick and choose the consequences of your actions. GǪexcept, of course, that he's not doing either of those.
Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
271
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:47:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Divine, do you as aperson look like your avatar ingame? I think it's rather inappropriate for you to be asking on a public forum about my appearance. No avatar in any game ever could look as good as I do IRL.
I dont care if you find it inappropriate, nor did I ask if you find it so. That is subject to your personal morality which has no bearing whatsoever on my own same such.
Nor did I ask if you are as ugly as your avatar.
I asked whether you, in person, look like your avatar. It is an objective query devoid of value judgement, nor should you apply such to it, since none is either implicit or explicit in it. To do so would be to indicate a prejudice. |
EvEa Deva
Forum Alt Retort
469
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:49:00 -
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M mouthy M mother f***** O online R ruining P peoples G games
thats what it stands for right ? |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1468
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:51:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad. Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy. And again you're insinuating that you are exempt from the reactions to your actions. How nice it must be, to live in a fairy tale where you get to pick and choose the consequences of your actions. #accountability
I used to be the head FC in a 650 man lo sec alliance so don't lecture me about accountability.
As for the rest of your post, I am not exempt from my actions in-game because in-game they have in-game consequences. Notice how I keep saying in-game, since EVE is just a game. Like cops and robbers.
In EVE, I am playing a character in another world. That character is not the same person who I am in my day to day life. You don't seem to be able to separate the game world from the real world, and some would call that a personality disorder. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:51:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Divine, do you as aperson look like your avatar ingame? I think it's rather inappropriate for you to be asking on a public forum about my appearance. No avatar in any game ever could look as good as I do IRL. I dont care if you find it inappropriate, nor did I ask if you find it so. That is subject to your personal morality which has no bearing whatsoever on my own same such. Nor did I ask if you are as ugly as your avatar. I asked whether you, in person, look like your avatar. It is an objective query devoid of value judgement, nor should you apply such to it, since none is either implicit or explicit in it.
Considering the severe disrespect you've just shown my person, I'm going to disregard your request. |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters
3767
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:53:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote: is eve space australia? Yes.
Tasmania, specifically. GÖí -á-á Major (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä -áHerrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Kais Klip
State Protectorate Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:53:00 -
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I don't understand why being bad, provided it further's one's agenda, is being so frowned upon when there is no more downside to acting bad than good.
I'm not even proposing Eve is a zero sum game on fun, it's not if it's a good fight, I'm just pointing out scamming and lying is no more "bad" in this game than opening up with your 425s. To the same extent, if it's a good scam, "gf". |
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
271
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:53:00 -
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Then you have objectively demonstrated bias and prejudice. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19988
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:53:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Considering the severe disrespect you've just shown my person Where did he do that?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:54:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad. Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy. And again you're insinuating that you are exempt from the reactions to your actions. How nice it must be, to live in a fairy tale where you get to pick and choose the consequences of your actions. #accountability I used to be the head FC in a 650 man lo sec alliance so don't lecture me about accountability. As for the rest of your post, I am not exempt from my actions in-game because in-game they have in-game consequences. Notice how I keep saying in-game, since EVE is just a game. Like cops and robbers. In EVE, I am playing a character in another world. That character is not the same person who I am in my day to day life. You don't seem to be able to separate the game world from the real world, and some would call that a personality disorder.
You justify a disconnection between your actions and your self however you wish. That is a deficiency in your character, not mine.
You failing to understand that you're the person making your choices to have negative impacts on other real people indicates no fault in me, only in you.
You're probably going to focus on the real, but here's the "reality". Every other capsuleer in game is controlled by a real person. |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters
3768
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:55:00 -
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Oh gawd, not this again. GÖí -á-á Major (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä -áHerrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:55:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad. Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy. And again you're insinuating that you are exempt from the reactions to your actions. How nice it must be, to live in a fairy tale where you get to pick and choose the consequences of your actions. #accountability
We all live in that fairy tale, its called EVE Online.
Edit : If I shoot a guy in a shooting game, am I a bad person? If I shoot someone in EVE Online, am I a bad person? At what point do my actions make me a bad person? |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
120
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:56:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Then you have objectively demonstrated bias and prejudice.
You've overtly demonstrated a lack of care for my feelings. You've made a request of me that I felt inappropriate, and then upon learning of my feeling on the matter you chose to reinforce your demand.
It's not biased or prejudiced, it's a reaction to someone who's shown me severe disrepect, disrespect amounting towards coming to a conclusion that you're not a person worthy of me placating. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19988
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:56:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:You justify a disconnection between your actions and your self however you wish. That is a deficiency in your character What do you base that claim on?
Quote:You failing to understand that you're the person making your choices to have negative impacts on other real people indicates no fault in me, only in you. GǪexcept, of course, that he doesn't fail to understand that. That's just you being prejudiced.
Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
271
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Then you have objectively demonstrated bias and prejudice. You've overtly demonstrated a lack of care for my feelings. You've made a request of me that I felt inappropriate, and then upon learning of my feeling on the matter you chose to reinforce your demand. It's not biased or prejudiced, it's a reaction to someone who's shown me severe disrepect, disrespect amounting towards coming to a conclusion that you're not a person worthy of me placating.
It is a biased and prejudiced response to an objective and neutral query.
Either you, in person, look like your avatar, or you don't.
I expressed no implicit or explicit value judgements upon the query. All of that, was added by you in demonstration and enactment of your own bias and prejudice. Not only that, but you then went further to superimpose your own imaginary speculation as to my motives for asking, when I had given no objective data on any of that.
You further try to dissemble the chronology of the discourse, by taking umbrage at my lack of caring for your irrelevant and evasive answer, when you failed to provide a direct question to a simple direct question.
I merely asked a neutral and objective question. Everything else, is your own doing, and as such, something you are accountable for, and which is representative of what you are. Ergo, biased and prejudicial.
I win. |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1468
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:You justify a disconnection between your actions and your self however you wish. That is a deficiency in your character What do you base that claim on? Quote:You failing to understand that you're the person making your choices to have negative impacts on other real people indicates no fault in me, only in you. GǪexcept, of course, that he doesn't fail to understand that. That's just you being prejudiced. Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar?
He doesn't seem to want to answer that question Tippia, at your leisure may I suggest an alternative question?
Does playing a robber in the children's game cops and robbers make you a bad person? Does playing a cop in the children's game cops and robbers make you a good person? Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Spaja Saist
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:point is this thread, with all hate and anger for a simple question and no answer without 'lol just because' Well, if you hadn't come right out of the gate with said hate and anger, people would have been less likely to respond in kindGǪ
What a lying piece of **** you are. All you ever do is insult people and act like you are better than everyone else. You are a prime example of what the OP is talking about. I'm sure you're a useless piece of **** in real life as well. Anyone that derives as much joy as you do in putting others down is a waste of air and doesn't deserve to live. Hopefully you will get ganked in real life then we won't have to listen to your stupid bullshit.
Now that being said, OP this is a harsh game and it attracts the worst sociopaths from a round the world. Coming to the forums and complaining just brings out the likes of Tippia the **** and Erotic1 the psychopath. Do yourself a favor and either play the game with people you know or just quit and find a game were being the biggest douche bag in the playground isn't rewarded.
CCP seems to like running a game were being an ******* is the main goal. Playing this game for the last 10 and a half years has taught me I would never want to go to Iceland. |
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