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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:15:00 -
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Rashnu Gorbani wrote:It is a pity. Facebook is awful as it is already. Although if someone offered me 2b, I'd sell... well pretty much anything. :)
But there was no need to sell, it was a crowd funded project, that could easily have been worth tens of billions of dollars in a few years of deployment.
I'd hang on to it for that payout, what do you need Zuckerberg's money for?
Won't be long before the stock market starts demanding it's cut, the parasites will start feeding and the joy of owning a rift will soon dissappear. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1397
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:31:00 -
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What in the hell does FB want with Occulus Rift?
This is so asinine. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Adrie Atticus
Unicorn Love Hurts
45
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:32:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Rashnu Gorbani wrote:It is a pity. Facebook is awful as it is already. Although if someone offered me 2b, I'd sell... well pretty much anything. :) But there was no need to sell, it was a crowd funded project, that could easily have been worth tens of billions of dollars in a few years of deployment. I'd hang on to it for that payout, what do you need Zuckerberg's money for? Won't be long before the stock market starts demanding it's cut, the parasites will start feeding and the joy of owning a rift will soon dissappear.
Maybe they knew that they could never bring it to the market with just $2.5M and were heading into the gutter? No matter how many high-profile people you have talking about your product (Carmack, Notch), it takes money to bring it to the market. |
Raid'En
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:33:00 -
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About this exclusive deal on Valkyrie and Rift... how about changing it from exclusive on PC and not on PS4 to not exclusive at all? |
Jint Hikaru
Truly Transdimensional The Nova Foundry
1142
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:43:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:What in the hell does FB want with Occulus Rift?
This is so asinine.
They want to turn it into some kind of STEAM or ORIGIN.
SO to use the Rift you will have to first log into some website or something that allows you to either game, or communicate with other people (Skype) or watch media.
This website (or whatever it is) can then offer you things to buy, and also push advertising on you. It will also recodd everything you do, and build databases of the things you like to play/watch/buy so it can then refine its advertising and also sell that information to other advertisers.
NOTE: this is what I think will happen.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
507
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:45:00 -
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The people that crowdfunded it will be sooo dissed. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
500
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:51:00 -
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was planning on buying Oculus VR / Valkyrie (mainly for valkyrie btw...)
FB now owns Oculus VR -> **** off won't buy, R.I.P. Valkyrie |
Oxide Ammar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:56:00 -
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game/comments
I don't blame them. |
Jasmine Assasin
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:00:00 -
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I refuse to have a FB profile or use any service that requires the use of FB in any way.
So no Oculus Rift for me.
Damn. |
Oxide Ammar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:09:00 -
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I'm not Lawyer, but isn't this kind rip off ? he invested the 2 mill funding and sold them out for 2 B. Can't these people ask for % from this.
Also this kind move I'm sure giving kick starter program a kick in the teeth, no one is going to support ideas and games blindly like before. |
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Jint Hikaru
Truly Transdimensional The Nova Foundry
1142
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:17:00 -
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Yeah, things aren't looking good on the Kickstarter page...
Lots of angry backers.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Othran
Route One
685
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:18:00 -
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May as well cancel Valkyrie now, nobody in their right mind wants anything to do with FB. |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:20:00 -
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I am not happy. While the amount of money I put into their Kickstarter was not excessive it was first thing ever I felt exited enough about to back on Kickstarter. And now they do this. Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
500
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:23:00 -
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Carniflex wrote:I am not happy. While the amount of money I put into their Kickstarter was not excessive it was first thing ever I felt exited enough about to back on Kickstarter. And now they do this. i feel for you and all the backers, i was tempted to join you and back them...glad i didn't! |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:47:00 -
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Oxide Ammar wrote:I'm not Lawyer, but isn't this kind rip off ? he invested the 2 mill funding and sold them out for 2 B. Can't these people ask for % from this.
Also this kind move I'm sure giving kick starter program a kick in the teeth, no one is going to support ideas and games blindly like before.
Kickstarter isn't an investment scheme. You have nothing but the rewards they say when you give them money. (and even those aren't guaranteed) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:13:00 -
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lol ouch, those comments are brutal
I was looking forward to buying a Rift just for Valkyrie, now, not so much. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Haka Kakinen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:21:00 -
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RIP Oculus, RIP Valkyrie |
Malcolm from Marketing
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:22:00 -
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Man i was sooo looking forward to buying the CV1, as were my kids and friends.
It had so much potential to be great but now this. I dont have facebook, refuse to on principal and more importantly due to it being absolutely useless and false, not to mention the dubious history of the owner.
Out of 22 friends that had pre ordered the DV2, 21 cancelled last night and only 1 friend is still on the fence after reading the news.
I'm uber pissed as Valkerie was the reason i was buying a Rift when CV1 came out, but i guess i'll be one of thousands that will reside to watching youtube video's of it instead.
Silver lining is i've saved myself -ú200--ú300 in the long run, but my faith in Oculus as a product just fell off a very tall cliff.
God damn sellouts. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1082
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:33:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:You guys are looking at this all wrong. FB is going to pioneer the first completely virtual world with social networking and virtual reality combined.
Think of it like real life, with no dirt.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjpOO3SCcAAM0_R.jpg |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2776
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:56:00 -
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I've heard Valkyrie will be hitting ps4 with their VR though. Is that right? So Valkyrie may live on. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2962
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:01:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I've heard Valkyrie will be hitting ps4 with their VR though. Is that right? So Valkyrie may live on.
Yup. It's been announced for the PS4 and Morpheus http://www.slashgear.com/eve-valkyrie-ps4-gameplay-hands-on-with-project-morpheus-20321474/ Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:10:00 -
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They should have made a great deal with Notch. This genius sits on a fast growing pile of money. But honest money paid by users loving Minecraft. They don't need a locust like FB who's just interested in figures and shareholder's satisfaction. Just a few deals with companies developing games will pay the bills and the development. Sad. Even visionaries can't resist and have their price. Very sad. |
Shadowlightt
Apex Innovations
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:20:00 -
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Facebook are doing illegal mmonopolies of digital products constructed by hard working companies its quite clear facebook is trying to be the mcdonalds of the internet maybe next in their illegal monopoly is twitter since twitter is a low budget free social site with that being said ill probably go buy facebooks stock now |
LordOfDespair
Capsuleer Combat Training Services
12
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:28:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:I pray to the wormhole gods that Gaben gets off his mighty throne and takes Valve VR to market.
In other news, EVE Valkyrie is now dead in the water given the majority of EVE's playerbase probably doesn't want to use facebook, as we've seen with EVE gate.
Valve isn't much better than any other company.
They have an F rating on the better business bureau, mostly because of their horrible (non-existent) customer service.
And have you ever read their EULA? It is despicable.
Granted they are a little better than facebook, but that isn't saying much.
PS: I was excited for valkyre, now I'm not. Hope CCP pulls their support from it and develops for another VR platform. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2776
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:32:00 -
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Misunderstood Genius wrote:They should have made a great deal with Notch. This genius sits on a fast growing pile of money. But honest money paid by users loving Minecraft. They don't need a locust like FB who's just interested in figures and shareholder's satisfaction. Just a few deals with companies developing games will pay the bills and the development. Sad. Even visionaries can't resist and have their price. Very sad. The thing is they already had there bills paid. They got 10x their funding on kickstarter, and there are games lined up for it and there were more on the way, so they literally had to just continue on and they would have had a good product. But they are greedy and chose to sell out, and in doing so they've dealt a blow to the independent development as a whole. Even people choosing to kickstart projects they believe in will now need to think twice as most probably don't contribute to a product to see it end up as yet another way for facebook to gather data.
But ah well, the product is dead. May as well move on rather than keep beating it's carcass. there's the Sony one, one supposedly by Valve, and several other indie alternatives, so I'll see how the rest line up. I'm certainly not going to buying Valykrie for the PC though since it's going to be restricted to the Oculus as far as I know, unless this sales invalidates the exclusivity in some way. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2776
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:36:00 -
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LordOfDespair wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:I pray to the wormhole gods that Gaben gets off his mighty throne and takes Valve VR to market.
In other news, EVE Valkyrie is now dead in the water given the majority of EVE's playerbase probably doesn't want to use facebook, as we've seen with EVE gate. Valve isn't much better than any other company. They have an F rating on the better business bureau, mostly because of their horrible (non-existent) customer service. And have you ever read their EULA? Granted they are a little better than facebook, but that isn't saying much. PS: I was excited for valkyre, now I'm not. Hope CCP pulls their support from it and develops for another VR platform. The thing about Valve is that they may be a bit rubbish, but a lot of big companies are. The difference is they don't scrape every possible piece of data about you then sell that in bulk to literally anyone who asks for it. Since that's Facebook's primary means of income, that's always going to be their #1 priority. Facebook's product is it's users, at least valves product is games.
Not to mention that with Greenlight, Valve showed they support independent developers being independent, and they push indie games as hard as they push the triple A titles. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
LordOfDespair
Capsuleer Combat Training Services
22
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:05:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:LordOfDespair wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:I pray to the wormhole gods that Gaben gets off his mighty throne and takes Valve VR to market.
In other news, EVE Valkyrie is now dead in the water given the majority of EVE's playerbase probably doesn't want to use facebook, as we've seen with EVE gate. Valve isn't much better than any other company. They have an F rating on the better business bureau, mostly because of their horrible (non-existent) customer service. And have you ever read their EULA? Granted they are a little better than facebook, but that isn't saying much. PS: I was excited for valkyre, now I'm not. Hope CCP pulls their support from it and develops for another VR platform. The thing about Valve is that they may be a bit rubbish, but a lot of big companies are. The difference is they don't scrape every possible piece of data about you then sell that in bulk to literally anyone who asks for it. Since that's Facebook's primary means of income, that's always going to be their #1 priority. Facebook's product is it's users, at least valves product is games. Not to mention that with Greenlight, Valve showed they support independent developers being independent, and they push indie games as hard as they push the triple A titles.
They only do that because they make mad money off of greenlight projects at little expense to them. Not out of the goodness of their hearts. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:11:00 -
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... waits for "Valkyrie" to appear as some mindless, water-down "arcade" game on FB ... GET OUT NOW, CCP ... this will not end well...
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
124
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:15:00 -
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I hated it when CCP chose to release Dust only on the Playstation. However, now I think I may buy a PS4 as a show of support if CCP also yanks Valkyrie from the Oculus. I mean it's really just because I'm liking the concept of the VR stuff, but I will NOT support something that will eventually become riddled with ads and selling my personal info. |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
175
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:18:00 -
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400mil in straight dough and 1,6 billion in stocks, not even the big J.C. could've resisted that temptation when only 21 or so.
Hell I know I wouldn't and my supporters be damned; it's babes, booze and coke from now on for the rest of my life.
Though admittedly I would had ran with the first 2,5mil in my hands considering that KS is basically giving free money for nothing which is also why KS and the likes are considered as an illegal fund raiser in Finland. |
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