As I said, there's either equal justice, or there's no justice.

The rules apply to everyone, or noone.

Only Sith deal in absolutes (and Schizophrenics actually)

Good grief people. The OP was a troll. There was no question or option implied.

Your choices are written in a way that makes it nearly impossible for a rational, reasonable person to choose anything other than #2. The wording on #3 is especially egregious. These are not real choices.

Thats because he's not looking for a real conversation. Its just CSM like whoring

NOTE TO CCP: I certainly hope you don't rely on input such as that found on this thread in order to formulate policy.
I somehow imagine you as being more PROFESSIONAL than that...this....(despite all I've said about you in the past.)
Go figure.

Isnt that an absolute?

Absolutely XD

That said, I honestly am NOT trying to waste your time. I rly don't see what the problem is. This is EVE, I play it BECAUSE it's full of pirates, thieves, backstabbers, scammers, and even obviously twisted frags like E1. It's a very refreshing change from games like WOW, etc. It's the harshness of the world that I love, absolutely love. You have to watch your back at all times, you have to be VERY careful with who you trust, because The Big Dirty is just around the corner, waiting for you to fall into the trap. By Gawd, I think it's FUN, exciting, and very interesting. As Ive said, I know Im not alone in this feeling, I know many (maybe even most?) players feel this way. It's why Eve has survived for 10 yrs, because it's DIFFERENT from all those other games.

So, as I've said, I think E1 is a slightly unbalanced, sadistic guy. I dont especially appreciate those traits in someone, but because of my love for the unregulated aspect of the game, and because I see a blatant double standard here, I vehemently oppose his being banned for the reason they banned him. People run right over that "line where someone has lost emotional control" hundreds of times a day in this game, you can see it anywhere, yet those guys dont get banned....Erotica get's banned. Again, CCP's OFFICIAL reasoning for the ban is that he "crossed the line when someone lost emotional control."

Get caught, get dealt with.

It's like when a bar owner catches folks smoking cannabis on the back patio or something.

Even though it may not personally bother the owner, the behavior jeopardizes their business (as that does), and they are within full rights to eject them from the premises.

Permanently.

However, there's a line as to how severe those circumstances should get, and I'll paraphrase Mynxee by saying that this line needs to be drawn at the point where the alleged victim starts to lose emotional control.

A more accurate analogy would be if the bartender knew ppl were smoking pot in the bathroom and did nothing about it, but busts the guys who walked off the property to do their smoking.

...which they absolutely cannot do, especially if off property, so your comment is negated and invalid as an example.

It's like when a bar owner catches folks smoking cannabis on the back patio or something.

Even though it may not personally bother the owner, the behavior jeopardizes their business (as that does), and they are within full rights to eject them from the premises.

Permanently.

I AM curious though, how many times HAVE you been banned? And gotten around the ban by making a new guy? Cause you always seem to use the same name. I ask this because youre SO on the side of right here.

You're telling me that what happens on a privately-owned TS server is within CCP's juris diction of control? The analogy makes perfect sense. He got banned for his actions in TS, outside the game, "off CCP's property."

You're telling me that what happens on a privately-owned TS server is within CCP's juris diction of control? The analogy makes perfect sense. He got banned for his actions in TS, outside the game, "off CCP's property."

You're telling me that what happens on a privately-owned TS server is within CCP's juris diction of control? The analogy makes perfect sense. He got banned for his actions in TS, outside the game, "off CCP's property."

You're telling me that what happens on a privately-owned TS server is within CCP's juris diction of control? The analogy makes perfect sense. He got banned for his actions in TS, outside the game, "off CCP's property."

Never banned. 4 years on the same toon as of 8 days ago.

I'm here for fun and the experience, not sadistic child's play by adults.

But let me speculate. It had nothing to do with what happened off CCP's property. It had everything to do with him using CCP's property to hunt for victims.

Mr Epeen

CCP's EULA mentions they can accept or reject you at their sole discretion.

Here we go, someone managed to push CCP's "discretion" and they just applied the EULA which allows them to not accept anyone they don't feel "fit" for their product.

CCP's EULA mentions they can accept or reject you at their sole discretion.

Here we go, someone managed to push CCP's "discretion" and they just applied the EULA which allows them to not accept anyone they don't feel "fit" for their product.

Oh no, you get me wrong.
Personal attacks have been around forever.
But prior to the anonymity of the internet, you attacked someone, there was a strong bet that they would find out who you are.
And when someone is outted, that person I find has a tendency to really moderate their behaviour, because they might just **** off the wrong person.

There is a reason that most newspapers require a name when it comes to the letters to the editor.
Did you know the Huffington Post now requires a real name to comment on a blog?
That has dropped their commenting activity by about 90%, because people are terrified of others knowing their political views. The internet is forever, and if someone is ever planning on looking for a new job, they don't want their name out there.

But it also has dramatically improved the civility of the discussions, because the trolls and sociopaths now see their name in bright lights, and that can be a dangerous thing.

So what I am saying is yes, personal attacks do occur in Eve, just like everywhere else.
And yes, every char should be anonymous in Eve.
But because of the privilege of that anonymity, players should be held to a higher standard of civility.

Oh, and BTW, though I am careful in game, I do get nailed occasionally.
I got nicked a couple months ago by someone using the aggressive drones/ MTU exploit that I did not know about.
But the GM gave me my ship back, and CCP closed that exploit.

The interesting thing was that log as well.
I won't bother posting it, but the ganker opened it up, and invited his friends to the chat, one who apparently knew me from my nullsec days. They tried to goad me into a rant, and when I stayed silent, they jumped out of the chat saying "this is boring."

If they guys need me ranting to provide them entertainment in Eve, maybe they should be looking for another game.

1. You seem to believe that the "gankers/bad guys" are the rude ones, when often I find it's the "carebears".

It is to protect us from the psycho's who claim they will "gut our mothers" IRL over the loss of internet pixels.

I've always said, no other game attracts more stupid.

Bravo! by that logic you just made 90% of the PVP in EVE bannable!

Damn sure glad YOURE not a dev

Wait wait wait. Are you getting pleasure from his suffering? Isn't that the VERY THING you lot are moaning about. Hypocrit.

so posting chat logs isnt against the rules anymore? Good to know! CSM approved guys!