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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
477
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:10:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
I don't believe that is what he is saying. I don't believe that is what anyone is saying. Btw, what is your definition of in-game gain? What if I am provoking a miner (repeated ganking, smack, evemails, whatever) in the hopes to clear them out of my territory? Is that acceptable motivation? How does CCP decide whether my motivation is a) sincere and b) within acceptable tolerances? Do I abandon my strategic goals if the miner rages? How much rage is too much? What if the rage is manufactured? Is this where the meta game is going?
What about if my goal is to get them to buy a mining permit and post "I support the New Order" in their bio? Is that acceptable?
Since I personally have explained the principle several times in this thread, starting with the OP, and others have posted similar explainations, can you give me some idea of how many more times you'll need it explained? If it's just 2 or 3 I might be inclined to make the effort. Sorry Malc. Can you point me to the post in this thread where you indicate what acceptable "in-game gains" are? I mean, you are the one making statements. I am just struggling to clearly understand the situation so I don't step over this line you claim is so clearly defined. I like to awox for no personal gain for example. My typical tactic is to stay in corp as long as possible and watch the corp members implode in a frothing rage. Sometimes I ask for a ransom, just so I can dishonor it and generate even more tears. So CCP doesn't want my business because there is no in game reward for my actions? Maybe this is silly to you, but it is literally all I do in Eve anymore. And by your very own statement, CCP does not condone my playstyle.
No, Malcanis doesnt. I have yet to see CCP say that. I have yet to see a blue tag say "we dont want your business"
PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented!
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
110662
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:11:00 -
[1022] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:This thread whole ordeal stopped being cool 20 pages ago while it was going on, much less arrived at the forums.
fixed
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
604
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:14:00 -
[1023] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:roflmao... how many times do I have to tell you Im a high sec missioner before you get it through your head?
"Guys, I am just trolling. Honest."
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2506
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:15:00 -
[1024] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:
If you take that edge out of Eve, you kill what makes this game unique. I guess when you think about it in those terms, I would rather maintain the status quo and have CCP be arbiter (however much I disagree or agree) in extreme cases.
Also, I don't think people hate you as much as you think. I know I don't. I disagree with a lot of your posts, but I feel that you are a content creator and valued member of the community. (Don't think I'd vote for you in CSM though :p)
People who make RL threats should be the enemy of the entire community regardless of all other issues. That is part of what irks me here, I feel that justice was not wholly served and that causes me to lose faith in the whole process.
Yeah, I understand about "killing that edge", you talk about.
I figure I am about to lead this discussion into "nanny state" versus "protecting the masses".
I don't want to, but from what I see on the forums this usually devolves into the "libertarians versus the the progressives" battle.
Here I go on a tangent:
Eve is a virtual world, with its own ethos, and set of rules (written or not), and society, in-game and out of game.
I don't think anyone can dispute that CCP has created a world hard skewed to the libertarian view.
And for a long time, this has attracted a specific kind of video game player more than others. But the game also attracts a lot of players who want to play a space game and live quietly in-game. And that is the conflict. Speaking in generalities, is the miner / mission runner in Eve a progressive, while the griefers / trollers are libertarian?
One can easily say "the real world has nothing to do with Eve", but from all the emotion generated in game and on the forums, I really don't think anyone buys that. How many blogs, and 3rd party tools have been created solely for Eve? One can say that is someone just being passionate about their hobby. I don't buy it. Anyone that invested in the game much is going to bleed the two worlds together, even a little bit.
So back to the point about the type of player that Eve attracts. If that person has a libertarian view of the world, they want CCP to be completely hands off. But this entire thread has been about that the fact that "hands off " is breaking down. Is erotica1 an outlier? Yes. But how many others are REALLY close to that line. How long before we have another erotica1 that the community is in an uproar over?
The way I see it, CCP HAS to put the hammer down, because it takes oh so few to ruin the game for so many.
How many people have quit the game because of the erotica1's of Eve, and how many potential players never start because of the bad press or their friends saying "stay away from Eve, bad news"?
CCP is facing some competition in the next year or so with Star Citizen, among others.
Sure, potential competition for CCP has come and gone many times. But this one may be different. I don't think Chris Roberts is an idiot, and I would really like to know how much of that 40 million he has came from disgruntled Eve players.
So Eve may be faced with an exodus of players, who are tried of one segment of the population making their life hell.
How many miners who have to deal with the New Order will jump at Star Citizen, if the game mechanics and moderators and GM's shut down that kind of behaviour?
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning.
The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
14886
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:19:00 -
[1025] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
I don't believe that is what he is saying. I don't believe that is what anyone is saying. Btw, what is your definition of in-game gain? What if I am provoking a miner (repeated ganking, smack, evemails, whatever) in the hopes to clear them out of my territory? Is that acceptable motivation? How does CCP decide whether my motivation is a) sincere and b) within acceptable tolerances? Do I abandon my strategic goals if the miner rages? How much rage is too much? What if the rage is manufactured? Is this where the meta game is going?
What about if my goal is to get them to buy a mining permit and post "I support the New Order" in their bio? Is that acceptable?
Since I personally have explained the principle several times in this thread, starting with the OP, and others have posted similar explainations, can you give me some idea of how many more times you'll need it explained? If it's just 2 or 3 I might be inclined to make the effort. Sorry Malc. Can you point me to the post in this thread where you indicate what acceptable "in-game gains" are? I mean, you are the one making statements. I am just struggling to clearly understand the situation so I don't step over this line you claim is so clearly defined. I like to awox for no personal gain for example. My typical tactic is to stay in corp as long as possible and watch the corp members implode in a frothing rage. Sometimes I ask for a ransom, just so I can dishonor it and generate even more tears. So CCP doesn't want my business because there is no in game reward for my actions? Maybe this is silly to you, but it is literally all I do in Eve anymore. And by your very own statement, CCP does not condone my playstyle. No, Malcanis doesnt. I have yet to see CCP say that. I have yet to see a blue tag say "we dont want your business"
Seems to me like they don't want erotica1's business but v0v
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
14886
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:23:00 -
[1026] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
I don't believe that is what he is saying. I don't believe that is what anyone is saying. Btw, what is your definition of in-game gain? What if I am provoking a miner (repeated ganking, smack, evemails, whatever) in the hopes to clear them out of my territory? Is that acceptable motivation? How does CCP decide whether my motivation is a) sincere and b) within acceptable tolerances? Do I abandon my strategic goals if the miner rages? How much rage is too much? What if the rage is manufactured? Is this where the meta game is going?
What about if my goal is to get them to buy a mining permit and post "I support the New Order" in their bio? Is that acceptable?
Since I personally have explained the principle several times in this thread, starting with the OP, and others have posted similar explainations, can you give me some idea of how many more times you'll need it explained? If it's just 2 or 3 I might be inclined to make the effort. Sorry Malc. Can you point me to the post in this thread where you indicate what acceptable "in-game gains" are? I mean, you are the one making statements. I am just struggling to understand the situation so I don't step over this line you claim is so clearly defined. I like to awox for no personal gain for example. My typical tactic is to stay in corp as long as possible and watch the corp members implode in a frothing rage. Sometimes I ask for a ransom, just so I can dishonor it and generate even more tears. So CCP doesn't want my business because there is no in game reward for my actions? Maybe this is silly to you, but it is literally all I do in Eve anymore. And by your very own statement, CCP does not condone my playstyle. Edit: I am honestly not trolling. I really appreciate having a CSM who is willing to engage members of the community with your level of frankness.
If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do.
1 Kings 12:11
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
79
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:26:00 -
[1027] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
So Eve may be faced with an exodus of players, who are tried of one segment of the population making their life hell.
How many miners who have to deal with the New Order will jump at Star Citizen, if the game mechanics and moderators and GM's shut down that kind of behaviour?
I like your libertarian v. progressives thought, I believe it is correct. Now to your point which I quoted... in all aspects of life, you simply cannot make all the people happy all the time. No matter which way you go, some people are going to get pissed off. So the question is, do the majority of the playerbase really want "a kinder, gentler EVE," or is/was the "wild wild west" aspect of Eve what attracted the LOYAL, longstanding players and made Eve to begin with?
As I and others have pointed out, some of us play precisely because of the psuedo-lawless aspect of the game. There are PLENTY of games out there for people who cant stomach Eve. Why should our game change just because some people don't like the atmosphere? There's other games those people can play, whereas there is NO other game like Eve, where you can, as the CCP ad says, "be the villain."
The more they wussify Eve, the more the solid core of ppl will get disgusted and leave. Eve was made to be a harsh world, and some of us want it to stay that way. CCP would do well to remember that the formula theyve been going with has kept this game in business for 10 long years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
BEING AN ******* IS NOT A CRIME! I support un-banning Erotica1
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Winchester Steele
721
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:27:00 -
[1028] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
If you take that edge out of Eve, you kill what makes this game unique. I guess when you think about it in those terms, I would rather maintain the status quo and have CCP be arbiter (however much I disagree or agree) in extreme cases.
Also, I don't think people hate you as much as you think. I know I don't. I disagree with a lot of your posts, but I feel that you are a content creator and valued member of the community. (Don't think I'd vote for you in CSM though :p)
People who make RL threats should be the enemy of the entire community regardless of all other issues. That is part of what irks me here, I feel that justice was not wholly served and that causes me to lose faith in the whole process.
Yeah, I understand about "killing that edge", you talk about. I figure I am about to lead this discussion into "nanny state" versus "protecting the masses". I don't want to, but from what I see on the forums this usually devolves into the "libertarians versus the the progressives" battle. Here I go on a tangent: Eve is a virtual world, with its own ethos, and set of rules (written or not), and society, in-game and out of game. I don't think anyone can dispute that CCP has created a world hard skewed to the libertarian view. And for a long time, this has attracted a specific kind of video game player more than others. But the game also attracts a lot of players who want to play a space game and live quietly in-game. And that is the conflict. Speaking in generalities, is the miner / mission runner in Eve a progressive, while the griefers / trollers are libertarian? One can easily say "the real world has nothing to do with Eve", but from all the emotion generated in game and on the forums, I really don't think anyone buys that. How many blogs, and 3rd party tools have been created solely for Eve? One can say that is someone just being passionate about their hobby. I don't buy it. Anyone that invested in the game much is going to bleed the two worlds together, even a little bit. So back to the point about the type of player that Eve attracts. If that person has a libertarian view of the world, they want CCP to be completely hands off. But this entire thread has been about that the fact that "hands off " is breaking down. Is erotica1 an outlier? Yes. But how many others are REALLY close to that line. How long before we have another erotica1 that the community is in an uproar over? The way I see it, CCP HAS to put the hammer down, because it takes oh so few to ruin the game for so many. How many people have quit the game because of the erotica1's of Eve, and how many potential players never start because of the bad press or their friends saying "stay away from Eve, bad news"? CCP is facing some competition in the next year or so with Star Citizen, among others. Sure, potential competition for CCP has come and gone many times. But this one may be different. I don't think Chris Roberts is an idiot, and I would really like to know how much of that 40 million he has came from disgruntled Eve players. So Eve may be faced with an exodus of players, who are tried of one segment of the population making their life hell. How many miners who have to deal with the New Order will jump at Star Citizen, if the game mechanics and moderators and GM's shut down that kind of behaviour?
I think the reality is that Eve needs both "types" of gamer to survive. You can't be a predator with no prey. And with no predators, this game is a boring ass grind fest with a terrible UI.
Eve is a niche game. Always has been, always will be. I personally wouldn't want it to become diluted my appealing to the mainstream. SC can fill that mainstream role. I play lots of games, I consider myself to be a connoisseur of sorts. There is only ONE game that I have ever played that has affected me emotionally. And it's not the Damsel in Distress that gets my heart going if you take my meaning.
But, that being said I am inclined to agree that at some point, realistically, a line has to be drawn. A safety word so to speak. Where that line is I don't know, but I would say that the "bonus room" probably crossed it. (Still don't think permaban was the right answer though.)
... |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
813
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:30:00 -
[1029] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:
If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do.
If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
Methinks it's not his judgment he's worried about.
It's the next CSM that takes offence in a practice that has been A-OK for long time that is worrisome.
But do keep trolling and insulting people, it's nice to see all CSM members fell from the same boorish rotten tree.
D.
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Marsha Mallow
165
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:30:00 -
[1030] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:I see you've made your choice.
It flounces
And then it gets the hose
Then it wriggles
Watch it. I used to be in an alliance with Ero on an alt.
Not seeing any of them throwing themselves about to defend him.
Not that I mind watching you kamikazee into a verbal troll loop of fury.
Now stop titting about and fix my POS. NOW.
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Winchester Steele
721
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:31:00 -
[1031] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
I don't believe that is what he is saying. I don't believe that is what anyone is saying. Btw, what is your definition of in-game gain? What if I am provoking a miner (repeated ganking, smack, evemails, whatever) in the hopes to clear them out of my territory? Is that acceptable motivation? How does CCP decide whether my motivation is a) sincere and b) within acceptable tolerances? Do I abandon my strategic goals if the miner rages? How much rage is too much? What if the rage is manufactured? Is this where the meta game is going?
What about if my goal is to get them to buy a mining permit and post "I support the New Order" in their bio? Is that acceptable?
Since I personally have explained the principle several times in this thread, starting with the OP, and others have posted similar explainations, can you give me some idea of how many more times you'll need it explained? If it's just 2 or 3 I might be inclined to make the effort. Sorry Malc. Can you point me to the post in this thread where you indicate what acceptable "in-game gains" are? I mean, you are the one making statements. I am just struggling to understand the situation so I don't step over this line you claim is so clearly defined. I like to awox for no personal gain for example. My typical tactic is to stay in corp as long as possible and watch the corp members implode in a frothing rage. Sometimes I ask for a ransom, just so I can dishonor it and generate even more tears. So CCP doesn't want my business because there is no in game reward for my actions? Maybe this is silly to you, but it is literally all I do in Eve anymore. And by your very own statement, CCP does not condone my playstyle. Edit: I am honestly not trolling. I really appreciate having a CSM who is willing to engage members of the community with your level of frankness. If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do. If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
Hmm. So awoxing is no longer condoned by CCP unless there are tangible in-game rewards. Got it.
Is my being told to **** off an official CCP position? Or just you being an arrogant **** (especially considering this is YOUR troll thread)?
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olan2005
Twisted Insanity.
The Kadeshi
74
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:35:00 -
[1032] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
I don't believe that is what he is saying. I don't believe that is what anyone is saying. Btw, what is your definition of in-game gain? What if I am provoking a miner (repeated ganking, smack, evemails, whatever) in the hopes to clear them out of my territory? Is that acceptable motivation? How does CCP decide whether my motivation is a) sincere and b) within acceptable tolerances? Do I abandon my strategic goals if the miner rages? How much rage is too much? What if the rage is manufactured? Is this where the meta game is going?
What about if my goal is to get them to buy a mining permit and post "I support the New Order" in their bio? Is that acceptable?
Since I personally have explained the principle several times in this thread, starting with the OP, and others have posted similar explainations, can you give me some idea of how many more times you'll need it explained? If it's just 2 or 3 I might be inclined to make the effort. Sorry Malc. Can you point me to the post in this thread where you indicate what acceptable "in-game gains" are? I mean, you are the one making statements. I am just struggling to understand the situation so I don't step over this line you claim is so clearly defined. I like to awox for no personal gain for example. My typical tactic is to stay in corp as long as possible and watch the corp members implode in a frothing rage. Sometimes I ask for a ransom, just so I can dishonor it and generate even more tears. So CCP doesn't want my business because there is no in game reward for my actions? Maybe this is silly to you, but it is literally all I do in Eve anymore. And by your very own statement, CCP does not condone my playstyle. Edit: I am honestly not trolling. I really appreciate having a CSM who is willing to engage members of the community with your level of frankness.
You really don't want to go there. If CCP draw the line there goes you're metagame . Just re iterate what's already been said. Self judgement and common sense people. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
605
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:36:00 -
[1033] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:Is my being told to **** off an official CCP position?
From your keyboard to Hilmar's ears.
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
olan2005
Twisted Insanity.
The Kadeshi
74
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:36:00 -
[1034] - Quote
By draw I mean explicitly state what it is |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
814
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:41:00 -
[1035] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:
Hmm. So awoxing is no longer condoned by CCP unless there are tangible in-game rewards. Got it.
Is my being told to **** off an official CCP position? Or just you being an arrogant **** (especially considering this is YOUR troll thread)?
Nope, not even that, because;
If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
So you awox and the corp CEO get's all emo... That's the end of it.
D.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
14887
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:42:00 -
[1036] - Quote
Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote:
If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do.
If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
Methinks it's not his judgment he's worried about. It's the next CSM that takes offence in a practice that has been A-OK for long time that is worrisome. But do keep trolling and insulting people, it's nice to see all CSM members fell from the same boorish rotten tree. D.
If you don't think I'm being dead serious then you've nothing to worry about, I'm sure.
1 Kings 12:11
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
85
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:43:00 -
[1037] - Quote
Are we REALLY saying that in Eve you can't taunt people now? Christ, where the hell does this train stop?
BEING AN ******* IS NOT A CRIME! I support un-banning Erotica1
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
14887
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:44:00 -
[1038] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:
Hmm. So awoxing is no longer condoned by CCP unless there are tangible in-game rewards. Got it.
Is my being told to **** off an official CCP position? Or just you being an arrogant **** (especially considering this is YOUR troll thread)?
How many times do you need to be told that your right to boatviolence has not been reduced in the slightest?
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Scam all you like
Gank all you like
Spy all you like
Awox all you like
Pirate all you like.
Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
1 Kings 12:11
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
814
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:45:00 -
[1039] - Quote
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Are we REALLY saying that in Eve you can't taunt people now? Christ, where the hell does this train stop?
Don't know if you can still apply for a spot on the CSM because those guys can do whatever they want, it's us scrubs that can't be trusted alone with a pair of scissors.
D.
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Winchester Steele
722
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:47:00 -
[1040] - Quote
Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote:
If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do.
If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
Methinks it's not his judgment he's worried about. It's the next CSM that takes offence in a practice that has been A-OK for long time that is worrisome. But do keep trolling and insulting people, it's nice to see all CSM members fell from the same boorish rotten tree. D.
This is exactly where I am coming from. Thank you.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1802
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:49:00 -
[1041] - Quote
Winchester Steele wrote:
Hmm. So awoxing is no longer condoned by CCP unless there are tangible in-game rewards. Got it.
Pretty sure it's condoned unless someone important decides it's torture, then you're pretty much hosed.
As an added bonus all the "nice" people get to hurl ugly insults at you with impunity as they drag your name through the mud in these forums.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Winchester Steele
726
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:56:00 -
[1042] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
Hmm. So awoxing is no longer condoned by CCP unless there are tangible in-game rewards. Got it.
Is my being told to **** off an official CCP position? Or just you being an arrogant **** (especially considering this is YOUR troll thread)?
... Trolling... Exercise discretion when rubbing salt in the wound afterwards
Since you seem to be having trouble understanding the issue. I've highlighted the part that hasn't been made clear. As Danalee stated, it isn't my discretion that I am concerned with.
I'd also like to remind you that this is YOUR thread. I am merely using this opportunity to discuss important issues with a member of the CSM who seems interested in this topic (otherwise why would you make this thread? Unless you were trolling in the OP?)
More to the point: is my awox example above still considered acceptable (i've been doing it for years now) or is your statement that i should **** off indicative of new CCP policy on the matter. As you are supposed to act as a liaison between the community and the dev team, I can only assume you are iterating an official position.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4766
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:58:00 -
[1043] - Quote
Sometimes when I read the bullheaded stupidity of a lot of the butt hurt crybabies in here, I think that perhaps the theory of Eugenics has some validity.
(Yup. I went there)
Mr Epeen 
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1804
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:03:00 -
[1044] - Quote
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Are we REALLY saying that in Eve you can't taunt people now? Christ, where the hell does this train stop?
No no silly, you CAN taunt, it's encouraged, just don't taunt too much around thin skinned people having a bad day, otherwise you're a most horrible person.
The person you taunted might think you're still Ok a day later, and appreciate that EVE has bad people, but some random person will inject himself into the situation and brand you unworthy of EVE Online with threats of media exposure.
Then you're pretty much hosed, sorry.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Moja Hinken
State War Academy
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:04:00 -
[1045] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote:
If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do.
If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
Methinks it's not his judgment he's worried about. It's the next CSM that takes offence in a practice that has been A-OK for long time that is worrisome. But do keep trolling and insulting people, it's nice to see all CSM members fell from the same boorish rotten tree. D. If you don't think I'm being dead serious then you've nothing to worry about, I'm sure.
You have really been a trooper through all of this. I hope you stop wasting your time with these nitwits. It has been these same people for the past 3 days asking the same question over and over and over. They are trolling you or are just THAT stupid.
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1781
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:05:00 -
[1046] - Quote
if they go with no. 1 i am in trouble.
2 albeit not the perfect solution is the only workable one.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
Winter Expansion new ship request |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
816
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:08:00 -
[1047] - Quote
Moja Hinken wrote:waawaawaa, people have opinions that aren't mine
Haha, you made a character to troll the threads about Erotica 1 because you were to scared for repercussions.
YES! We need more "players" like you!
D.
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Winchester Steele
729
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:08:00 -
[1048] - Quote
Moja Hinken wrote:Malcanis wrote:Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote:
If you don't trust your judgement then I suggest you err on the side of caution. I don't know how many more times I have to say that your right to boatviolence has not changed at all for it to penetrate. Will 2 more do? 10? 100? Just let me know how many CRTL-Vs I have to do.
If your playstyle depends on driving other eve players to the point of emotional breakdown and then not backing off, then to be frank you can **** off.
Methinks it's not his judgment he's worried about. It's the next CSM that takes offence in a practice that has been A-OK for long time that is worrisome. But do keep trolling and insulting people, it's nice to see all CSM members fell from the same boorish rotten tree. D. If you don't think I'm being dead serious then you've nothing to worry about, I'm sure. You have really been a trooper through all of this. I hope you stop wasting your time with these nitwits. It has been these same people for the past 3 days asking the same question over and over and over. They are trolling you or are just THAT stupid.
Ahh personal attacks. When you have no defensible position, start tossing out the ad hominems. Maybe we want clarification on this issue because it intimately affects our playstyle? Forgive me if I don't want to get Riparded out of this game that I love.
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Moja Hinken
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:16:00 -
[1049] - Quote
This is my only character. I have never felt the need to post on the forums until now. Not going to be a idle forum reader when I feel like I need to stand up for something. Looks like mission accomplished, glad CCP decided to make the game a better place. Have a good day troll :).
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2510
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Posted - 2014.03.30 21:17:00 -
[1050] - Quote
In response to both Winchester and Ssabat, I think you are both making the same points.
Eve is a cold harsh place.
Eve is a niche game.
But exactly how long can the game continue down that path.
Ay what point does the growing toxicity of the game start driving away so many players that the game begins to lose subs.
Yes, I know that apparently , Eve has seen 10 years of slow growth.
But I think that CCP made be facing a rude change in the next 12-18 months.
It is interesting to note that the players online spike from all the trial accounts started over the null sec brawl has faded.
Eve did not top 50,000 today, as far as I could see, and Sunday is the big day.
Does that translate into subs going down? Only CCP knows for sure.
But as I said, if Star Citizen provides an good game environment for the carebears, and enough jump ship, CCP may be forced to have a good hard look at precisely how cold and harsh they want Eve to be, and how much villainy, in-game and out, they will celebrate.
And that note, it is time to walk the dog.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning.
The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
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