That ****'s cute as hell. I want to wrap you up in a bow and take you home.

That's a ridiculous imaginary scenario that proves nothing except your own desperation.

No, that isn't the main premise for the majority of players in this game.

Unless he means you're loosing your **** in the same way one looses an arrow. Also, if you're going to pull someone up on their English, you should at least remember to capitalise the E.

It sure is interesting that telling a very large group of people to try and make a man kill himself warranted only a 30 day ban. Not sure that what Erotica did is worse than that. Especially considering Mittani was at a CCP sponsored event. Yep, no double standard at CCP.

Yeah, agreed on point 1. I have seen ALL sides behave badly. I too, get far too wound up sometimes. I like to blame the trolls that are using the forums the same way others use local, but hey, I am ultimately responsible for what I type.

As for point 2. I agree to a certain degree.
Shooting a ship, no problem.
The problem about smacktalk is where we get on that slippery slope, again.
I think that we are dealing with, just like in real life, with the 1% ruining it for the 99%.
Say you beat a larger group, say a pirate gatecamp in Huola. A couple lines in local like "better luck next time", or "guess you didn't need that SFI anyway" would be "in the moment", and no one gets bent out of shape over that.

But how do you draw the line? What if you get all your friends to perma wardec the group that lost? Or every time they logged on, you spent all day ganking them, or flooding their email with garbage.

At what point does it become griefing, and bad behaviour? How can it ALL be policed.

Many many of the laws in the world are in place because of the 1% , or 0.01%, that prey on the rest.
And I think we have reached that point in the game where the 10%, or 1%, or 0.01% of Eve players are not going to retreat to a level of civility. So the only option I see that is feasible is for CCP to ban ALL smacktalk, and anything that is even close to griefing.

I am not saying this is a desirable state, nor one that is even fair.
I said feasible.

If CCP came out and said, "you smacktalk, you are history", there would be a huge outcry.
But in the end, it would ensure situations like the past week never can reach that point. (And yes, I know that erotica1 used Teamspeak, not Eve channels)


And lastly, I too like to think that I voice the same opinions in public, or over an anonymous forum.
But most people unleash a side to them that they would never do face to face.
All of us have seen comments and language used that if done in public would end up with someone likely on the ground, and someone else in jail.

As for the crazies that want to kill over a video game, well, they are just crazy to begin with.
I would think that if real names were used in more political discussions, NOW that would lead to the crazies hunting down their adversaries.

Like I said in the original post, you post something extreme and outrageous on a forum, you might indeed tick off the wrong person, so people do self-moderate their views. Lastly, one of the reasons I will never run for the CSM is because of the potential of real life harassment. I see the hate directed at me now, where I have virtually zero influence on the game. Imagine if I was actually on the CSM, where I COULD possibly get CCP to tighten up the rules. How many crazies would I be facing then?

And just to blow my whole argument out of the water, I love this scene in Jay and Silent Bob Strike : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I

ah ah ah you mistook what I said.

I said thats the main premise of the GAME not those playing it. If it WASNT ganking and every other activity that causes someone else to be unhappy would be bannable. CCP ENCOURAGE this stuff instead.

Make me a promise friend. Never stop crying. Because it is wonderful to listen to you whine in post after post about something that isn't going to change.

I feel that justice was not wholly served and that causes me to lose faith in the whole process.

It sure is interesting that telling a very large group of people to try and make a man kill himself warranted only a 30 day ban. Not sure that what Erotica did is worse than that. Especially considering Mittani was at a CCP sponsored event. Yep, no double standard at CCP.

Can I haz your stuff?


Someone touched a nerve.

More tears and complaining please.

You sure are chock full of tired old memes aren't you. Thanks for your invaluable contribution to this discussion.

If people would actually stop and think for even 60 seconds in here..........this has all pretty much been a learning experience for everyone, especially CCP.

I doubt they predicted or allowed for the possibility that behaviors would get this stupid and out of control 10 1/2 years ago.

We were still calling trolling "flaming" then btw, remember ?

Make me a promise friend. Never stop crying. Because it is wonderful to listen to you whine in post after post about something that isn't going to change.

I suspect like a lot of the guys in the griefer community, you're insular

Between drying your crying eyes and the deep sobs you're posting in this thread, can you tell me more about CAOD friend?

Can I haz your stuff?


Someone touched a nerve.

More tears and complaining please.

Stop it you sociopath. Ill report you and get you banned!

lol

Yeah. He has definitely pushed me past my comfortable area. Feeling a little bit emotionally unstable right now. Should I ask him to stop his griefing or just report him?

roflmao... how many times do I have to tell you Im a high sec missioner before you get it through your head?

AGAIN, Ill take it slow as you seem to have issues.


The

Danger

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fun

thats why Im arguing this side of things.

Hope that isnt too complicated for you

If you get your fun by deliberately continuing to provoke someone for no in-game gain even after it becomes apparent that they're losing control, then CCP don't want your custom.

Goodbye o/

If you get your fun by deliberately continuing to provoke someone for no in-game gain even after it becomes apparent that they're losing control, then CCP don't want your custom.

Goodbye o/

So gankers then ah ok

Especially the ones that are doing it "for the luls" and not for the money?

Again, that definition kills Hulkageddon, as that was to collect tears primarily, remember?

Might wanna troll better malcanis, that was pretty ****** man.

I don't believe that is what he is saying. I don't believe that is what anyone is saying. Btw, what is your definition of in-game gain? What if I am provoking a miner (repeated ganking, smack, evemails, whatever) in the hopes to clear them out of my territory? Is that acceptable motivation? How does CCP decide whether my motivation is a) sincere and b) within acceptable tolerances? Do I abandon my strategic goals if the miner rages? How much rage is too much? What if the rage is manufactured? Is this where the meta game is going?

What about if my goal is to get them to buy a mining permit and post "I support the New Order" in their bio? Is that acceptable?

My "troll" on this subject is pretty weaksauce compared to how the GM team will "troll" you if you step over the line.

Now I realise that you've been working pretty hard to make everyone think you're too stupid to understand what that line is, - and it may even be that you genuinely are too stupid to understand what that line is, but neither the pretence nor the reality will save you if you tread over it.

You're more than welcome to carry on pretending to be stupid (or just being stupid) here on the forum if it gives you some bizarre satisfaction.

This thread stopped being cool 20 pages ago!

Since I personally have explained the principle several times in this thread, starting with the OP, and others have posted similar explainations, can you give me some idea of how many more times you'll need it explained? If it's just 2 or 3 I might be inclined to make the effort.

I see you've made your choice.