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Jett0
Team Kitty Choke Slam
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Posted - 2011.11.14 05:33:00 -
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Just something random I was thinking of. I'm sure many remember how awesome and expansive the universe seemed the first time you fly near a planet. Then you clip right through one and the immersion breaks. But you eventually accept it and move on.
I'm against the idea of course redirects around planets. However, I'm reminded of a quote from Cowboy Bebop: "Objects in hyperspace can still be seen by the naked eye. Of course, they can never interact with anything on this plane of reality."
A small visual cue or animation of this phenomenon would be many times better than just clipping through it. |
EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.14 05:42:00 -
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I agree, perhaps the 3D scene should be completely black when inside a planet. |
Nypheas Azurai
Azimuth Enterprises
41
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Posted - 2011.11.14 06:25:00 -
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this. I actually do.
Didn't make it past my 3rd day playing before I up and got the urge to MWD for 20min into a planet. The resulting "wtf?.. aaww. lame" spontaneously caused me to rage for several days. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
299
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Posted - 2011.11.14 07:14:00 -
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eithery they need to make the warp tunnel to the point it makes it hard to see stuff outside of it,
or they turn all planets and moons into warp bubbles.
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Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
37
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Posted - 2011.11.14 08:42:00 -
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Everything should be backwards in warp, even your speed.
Ferox #1 |
DarkAegix
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
309
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Posted - 2011.11.14 08:55:00 -
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Just add sparkly, shiny effects when we're warping through a planet.
If the game admits what is happening, a player will know there's an explanation. |
Jett0
Team Kitty Choke Slam
7
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Posted - 2011.11.14 09:00:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:If the game admits what is happening, a player will know there's an explanation.
Pretty much this. It doesn't have to be explained, just acknowledged. |
BLACK-STAR
219
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Posted - 2011.11.14 10:32:00 -
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I asked months ago on the old forums for CCP to relocate planets and moons on grid. Basically it's a low priority.
The planets and moons were dropped there when the systems were created, years and years ago... the dev had short insight into the future when placing random planets directly in common warp aligns. this was simply kind of lazy and slutty development.
They should have fixed it during Dominion, before Tyrannis rolled Custom Offices out; now CCP just added more time-consuming fixes.
I'm kind of a perfectionist so it bothers me even after playing EVE for years. its a common fixable bug and disregarded.
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
BRABODEN
439
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:03:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:
I'm kind of a perfectionist so it bothers me even after playing EVE for years.
I don't think it's perfectionism to expect that we don't blast through planets and see the inner edges of the model as we do. It looks tacky, unfinished, and unprofessional. I had that feeling the first time it happened to me on Eve and that hasn't changed since. Same with plowing through stations on warp. There are some smart people at CCP who I am pretty sure can write a bit of code to create a curve. |
Terh Rumnatarn
Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics
4
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:12:00 -
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You do realize that your brain doesn`t have the ability to perceive that kind of information (a black image when passing through a planet - also other objects moving with a relative speed greater than your ship) Think about when you are in a train, and another one passes in the opposing direction; how many faces can you recognize? Think now if you are traveling with enormous speeds. The angular speed is great when obj are closer, and small when they are far - as the sun.
This is the same thing as the 25 frame movie, your retina sense it, but your brain doesn`t receive it.
Also passing through matter is perfectly plausible. You have atm passing through you and Earth, thousands of particles with 0 electronic charge, thus not affecting you at all, and they aren`t obstructed or diverted (maybe except by the gravitational field) at all.
Thinking that when you reach warp speed, your mass drops near 0 and assuming that you are able to drop your electronic charge also, you are able to pass through planets, stars etc.
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
BRABODEN
439
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:18:00 -
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Terh Rumnatarn wrote:
Also passing through matter is perfectly plausible. You have atm passing through you and Earth, thousands of particles with 0 electronic charge, thus not affecting you at all, and they aren`t obstructed or diverted (maybe except by the gravitational field) at all.
I don't see through the edges of their polygons when they pass through me so I don't care. |
Daedalus Arcova
Havoc Violence and Chaos
BricK sQuAD.
95
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:23:00 -
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Terh Rumnatarn wrote:You do realize that your brain doesn`t have the ability to perceive that kind of information (a black image when passing through a planet - also other objects moving with a relative speed greater than your ship) Think about when you are in a train, and another one passes in the opposing direction; how many faces can you recognize? Think now if you are traveling with enormous speeds. The angular speed is great when obj are closer, and small when they are far - as the sun.
This is the same thing as the 25 frame movie, your retina sense it, but your brain doesn`t receive it.
Also passing through matter is perfectly plausible. You have atm passing through you and Earth, thousands of particles with 0 electronic charge, thus not affecting you at all, and they aren`t obstructed or diverted (maybe except by the gravitational field) at all.
Thinking that when you reach warp speed, your mass drops near 0 and assuming that you are able to drop your electronic charge also, you are able to pass through planets, stars etc.
Fine, but you're still in the middle of a planet, looking at ugly outlines for a couple of seconds (because you're always accelerating or decelerating when you pass through a celestial - never at full warp). Something, anything to make it look like you're passing through a solid, massive object, not a gigantic balloon of one way glass.
As for curving warp paths, that would be awesome. However, since NPCs don't even have the AI complexity to manoeuvre around asteroids, what hope have we of our ships computing warp paths around celestials? Even if it were possible, it would probably mess up your ability to align before warping. |
Terh Rumnatarn
Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics
4
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:26:00 -
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Jett0 wrote:Just something random I was thinking of. I'm sure many remember how awesome and expansive the universe seemed the first time you fly near a planet. Then you clip right through one and the immersion breaks. But you eventually accept it and move on.
And you may give me a thumbs up now, cause your insomnia related to unanswered q " passing through planets is gone" .
And this without medication. Marvelous..
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Terh Rumnatarn
Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics
4
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:34:00 -
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Daedalus Arcova wrote:
Fine, but you're still in the middle of a planet, looking at ugly outlines for a couple of seconds (because you're always accelerating or decelerating when you pass through a celestial - never at full warp). We need something - anything - to make it look like the game acknowledges that you're passing through a solid, massive object, and not a gigantic balloon of one way glass.
Well, as I said it before, physics, the structure of planets, mater, everything is there, but your brain perceives it like some residual frame in your peripheral field of vision. You have passed through the planet when you actually sense that in your brain as a visual, which combines with the current frame that is open space. There are tons of visual effects on the web, called visual illusions. Search it and you will be blown of how your eyes and brain work.
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CCP BlueScreen
C C P
C C P Alliance
21
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:38:00 -
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Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well.
Winter is coming...  |
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DarkAegix
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
313
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:40:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking, winter is coming... 
*COUGH*
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
BRABODEN
439
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:42:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command
Fleet Coordination Coalition
43
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:45:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
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Terh Rumnatarn
Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics
4
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:50:00 -
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Daedalus Arcova wrote:
As for curving warp paths, that would be awesome. However, since NPCs don't even have the AI complexity to manoeuvre around asteroids, what hope have we of our ships computing warp paths around celestials? Even if it were possible, it would probably mess up the way we can align to a point, ready to warp to it.
Think about, at the speed of 360 000km/h (100m/s - the speed of a bs) you would need a force = mass (of a BS) x acceleration (from 0 to 100m/s) at 90 degrees (a engine on the left or right side of the ship) to change you on a trajectory at 45 degrees. That is enormous.
In non warp you are able to do that by increasing or decreasing the power of one of the rear engines. In warp, all the power in the rear engines capt. Try to unbalance that and you may hit a tree or smth.. No trees in space? How come. I want trees in space.
Please CCP introduce trees in space. Who joins me in my dream for love and trees??
I`m like Superman, ideas bounce from me like rubber bullets. (damn that US police force and their rubber bullets.. that nullified my saying) |
Arsibalt d'Arcachon
Rekall Incorporated
6
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:52:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
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BLACK-STAR
219
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:03:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming... If you guys roll this immersion fix come winter release, my thanks. You guys are getting back on the ball of things, even small stuff counts.
With this just a note; your ring planets are also in conflict with warp projectories. Fix too!
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Liu Ellens
Blame The Bunny
The Dark Nation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:03:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
Time to let speculations run wild on how it will look :)
My personal favorite is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r94UplBdSMM -- how close is "Winter" to this one?
I'm a little freighter - short and stout; This is my cargo, this is my route.
When I get a lock-on, I scream and shout: "Light up a cyno!" and jump on out. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
123
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:08:00 -
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Terh Rumnatarn wrote:
Think about, at the speed of 360 000km/h (100m/s - the speed of a bs) you would need a force = mass (of a BS) x acceleration (from 0 to 100m/s) at 90 degrees (a engine on the left or right side of the ship) to change you on a trajectory at 45 degrees. That is enormous.
You math is off by a thousand. 100m/s is just 360km/h, not far from the top speed of a F1 car. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
132
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:09:00 -
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Terh Rumnatarn wrote: Who joins me in my dream for love and trees??
There are already giant mushrooms in space and I think that's as close as you are going to get. |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
79
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:13:00 -
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Terh Rumnatarn wrote:You do realize that your brain doesn`t have the ability to perceive that kind of information (a black image when passing through a planet - also other objects moving with a relative speed greater than your ship) Think about when you are in a train, and another one passes in the opposing direction; how many faces can you recognize? Think now if you are traveling with enormous speeds. The angular speed is great when obj are closer, and small when they are far - as the sun.
This is the same thing as the 25 frame movie, your retina sense it, but your brain doesn`t receive it.
If I were you, I wouldn't be using pseudo-science to try and rationalise away an essentially 'emotional' issue - the two rarely mix well...
And as for your theory that the brain doesn't receive signals at speeds in excess of 25htz (or fps) - did you really think that through before you typed it?
Anyway, Winter is coming... So no thumbs up from me... |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
119
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:17:00 -
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Hiram Alexander wrote:This is the same thing as the 25 frame movie, your retina sense it, but your brain doesn`t receive it.
*LOL* |
Terh Rumnatarn
Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics
4
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:32:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:Terh Rumnatarn wrote:
Think about, at the speed of 360 000km/h (100m/s - the speed of a bs) you would need a force = mass (of a BS) x acceleration (from 0 to 100m/s) at 90 degrees (a engine on the left or right side of the ship) to change you on a trajectory at 45 degrees. That is enormous.
You math is off by a thousand. 100m/s is just 360km/h, not far from the top speed of a F1 car.
I stand corrected, I was going to write m.
As for the frame/s part, I went there for a common knowledge example (see Refractory period on neurons).
If you want scientific references to articles stating what I`ve said, you are welcome. Mail me in the game. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
301
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:37:00 -
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Good thing I dont hibernate I'd be missing a good expansion.
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Victor Valka
Endoxa Corporation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:00:00 -
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Grideris wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
If I wasn't excited before, then I am now! BRB, getting a pair of looser jeans. |
Cunane Jeran
61
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:06:00 -
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I just got chills. |
Tivookz
The Forgotten Navy
Gentlemen's Agreement
14
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:07:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
Wat |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
266
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:35:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
What indeed, who's cooking up what and how, and for who!
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[img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img]
[yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
StukaBee
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:38:00 -
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Jett0 wrote:I'm against the idea of course redirects around planets.
Why?
Slingshotting around celestial bodies in warp would be awesome.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
99
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:53:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
That new warp effect you guys hinted at? |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
39
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Posted - 2011.11.14 14:59:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
Oh hai thar! |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
132
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Posted - 2011.11.14 15:02:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
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SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers
Project Wildfire
32
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Posted - 2011.11.14 15:07:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:Yes agreed, we always thought that was lacking as well. Winter is coming...
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Zleon Leigh
18
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Posted - 2011.11.14 15:07:00 -
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There are few planets that would be black inside. Some actually should be close to white in color (as humans perceive white).
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. |
Barakkus
1085
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Posted - 2011.11.14 15:55:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:eithery they need to make the warp tunnel to the point it makes it hard to see stuff outside of it,
or they turn all planets and moons into warp bubbles.
It would be nice if they just fixed the warp tunnel graphics so it actually displayed. |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
290
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:12:00 -
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http://www.newscientist.com/video/1264875812001-mind-bending-tour-of-the-solar-system.html
Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado.
Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:25:00 -
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Terh Rumnatarn wrote:
Try to unbalance that and you may hit a tree or smth.. No trees in space? How come. I want trees in space.
Please CCP introduce trees in space. Who joins me in my dream for love and trees??
There are trees in space, you just cant see them because of all the green camoflauged ships.
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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
827
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:27:00 -
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I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen.
CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:28:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen.
you guys tease more then my ex-girlfriend....she at least put out after enough alcohol tho.
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mkint
326
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:31:00 -
[44] - Quote
I'm still annoyed that the "new planets" were the excuse for why PI sucks so bad as a mechanic. Sizzle should NEVER be a substitute for Steak. |
Dave Kaplinski
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:33:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen.
How about one of these wonderful dev blogs you guys have been very forthcoming with recently? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
301
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:33:00 -
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There are trees in space ever seen a caldari or gallente biodome?
Either way ccp knows how to tease but I have to wait until I get onto sisi later today to see what is updated.
Hopefully textures for the new ships finally.
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Creat Posudol
Destined for Greatness Inc.
41
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:35:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen.
It's called a video. Make one?
Yes please  |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
133
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:40:00 -
[48] - Quote
...well they did say they were changing the warp effect... I was expecting the usual.. more polish and maybe some particle effects... maybe I underestimated the weight of the word "changing"....
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CCP Gangleri
CCP Engineering Corp
CCP Engineering Alliance
37
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:47:00 -
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InVictus Kell wrote:CCP Guard wrote:I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen. you guys tease more then my ex-girlfriend....she at least put out after enough alcohol tho.
This also works for us, you should totally come to Fanfest.
CCP Gangleri | Senior Tester | EVE Release Management
EVE Gate broadcast log:
https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/CCP%20Gangleri/StatusUpdates
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BLACK-STAR
219
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:48:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:http://www.newscientist.com/video/1264875812001-mind-bending-tour-of-the-solar-system.html
this video is a good find!
It would be an huge accomplishment for trinity to simulate the color shifting for warping past or upon a planet.
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
133
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Posted - 2011.11.14 16:50:00 -
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CCP Gangleri wrote:InVictus Kell wrote:CCP Guard wrote:I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen. you guys tease more then my ex-girlfriend....she at least put out after enough alcohol tho. This also works for us, you should totally come to Fanfest.
This is a Hint: The implication of course being you bring the devs your girlfriend...
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Nutbolt
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:21:00 -
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Check out SiSi, just updated. The new warp effect is just amazing! Engine trails are cool too... :) |
Oberine Noriepa
187
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:25:00 -
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The new warp effect is up on Singularity.
It needs to be seen to be believed! |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
114
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:29:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:The new warp effect is up on Singularity.
It needs to be seen to be believed!
Pics?????? Please????
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
133
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:33:00 -
[55] - Quote
Montevius Williams wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:The new warp effect is up on Singularity.
It needs to be seen to be believed! Pics?????? Please????
Everyone should have a Sisi installation...
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
BRABODEN
441
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:34:00 -
[56] - Quote
Just saw it!
Mother of god, one of my biggest day one nitpicks has been fixed at last. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
301
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:35:00 -
[57] - Quote
well some of us are at school or work or whatnot.
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
BRABODEN
441
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:36:00 -
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And oh my is the new Raven gorgeous. |
Oberine Noriepa
187
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:43:00 -
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Adjacent stars now show up on the starfield! The colors even match! Stargates are also rotated to destination stars.
This is awesome!
EDIT: Rocket trails! |
Mukuro Gravedigger
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:45:00 -
[60] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:I just went up to the art department to see what they have done and...and....
Let's just say I have to figure out a way to let your eyes see what mine have seen.
Well based upon your avatar picture, how can you see anything from behind that blue "Eve Developer" arrow poking you in the eye...?
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Oberine Noriepa
187
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:50:00 -
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Screenshot of new warp effect. |
Abrazzar
327
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Posted - 2011.11.14 17:52:00 -
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I predict people complaining about motion sickness and soiled keyboards (and pants).
Edit: But it looks rather ozom!
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
BLACK-STAR
219
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Posted - 2011.11.14 18:05:00 -
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new warp
http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/01.jpg
http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/02.jpg
http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/03.jpg
http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/04.jpg
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Victor Valka
Endoxa Corporation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.14 18:18:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I predict people complaining about motion sickness and soiled keyboards (and pants).
Edit: But it looks rather ozom!
Fondle those people gently! They didn't want those nutrients anyways. |
Oberine Noriepa
189
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Posted - 2011.11.14 18:39:00 -
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Warping through a planet no longer involves clipping. There's a nice fade in/out effect. |
Lairne Tekitsu
Ordo Mercuia
18
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Posted - 2011.11.14 18:46:00 -
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Jett0 wrote:Just something random I was thinking of. I'm sure many remember how awesome and expansive the universe seemed the first time you fly near a planet. Then you clip right through one and the immersion breaks. But you eventually accept it and move on.
I'm against the idea of course redirects around planets. However, I'm reminded of a quote from Cowboy Bebop: "Objects in hyperspace can still be seen by the naked eye. Of course, they can never interact with anything on this plane of reality."
A small visual cue or animation of this phenomenon would be many times better than just clipping through it.
I only went whoah the first time I went through a planet. I thought I was gonna crash.
Does that count?
Edit: Also, don't warp drives gravitationally compress matter that they pass through? So shouldn't we be boring holes in all these planets? |
Jett0
Team Kitty Choke Slam
13
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:28:00 -
[67] - Quote
I just logged on to SiSi.
That is beautiful. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
148
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:35:00 -
[68] - Quote
Confirming that new warp-through-planets effect is awesome. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:38:00 -
[69] - Quote
First I was like WOAH and then I was like woah and then I was like woahhhhhh
New warp is awesome... Nuff said |
Uskos
New Ceres Economics and Logsitcs
1
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:40:00 -
[70] - Quote
Well i finally will enjoy warping 100 AU in a freighter, thanks ccp! |
Kumq uat
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
53
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:44:00 -
[71] - Quote
motherofgod.jpg |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
130
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:47:00 -
[72] - Quote
Holy ****...
Warping through planets effects = forged in God's very flames.
I live, I post, I slay. I am content. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2011.11.14 20:53:00 -
[73] - Quote
Keep f*warping all over the place - confirming that this is epicness of extreme proportion!!!
WOW
Simply excellent stuff - well done Devs |
GeeShizzle MacCloud
22
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Posted - 2011.11.14 21:34:00 -
[74] - Quote
have to say the no-clipping through planets was a real bug bear for me, after getting a decent semi-cop out explanation from sum1 about it i accepted it bt thought it wouldnt be fixed for a Loooooooooooong time.
tbh i wasnt expecting suuch a wonderous update to this! makes me wanna fly my ships bitchingly fast into planets more and more! and thankfully it wont obliterate the population anymore! woop!
the one thing i REALLY like about the new warp effects is the refracting of the white light into its spectrum due to the warp distortions!
F*****************KING BEAUTIFUL guys! seriously with all these updates my killboards gonna be a sea of red once on TQ with me flying round with my GUI off!
heh =) |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
109
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Posted - 2011.11.14 23:10:00 -
[75] - Quote
I am just going to leave this here... |
Barakkus
1086
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Posted - 2011.11.14 23:44:00 -
[76] - Quote
In case no one posted it yet....warping through a sun (and improved sun graphics)
http://youtu.be/NnXz1vyV9as
Btw, I am unfamilliar with some of these station graphics, I thought i had seen all the station graphic designs, is the one during the credits of that video new or just something I hadn't seen? |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
41
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Posted - 2011.11.14 23:59:00 -
[77] - Quote
You guys really aint lying/suffering from sever fanboism. That really, really, REALLY looks great!
Wonderful work, seriously guys. |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
80
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Posted - 2011.11.15 00:10:00 -
[78] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Hiram Alexander wrote:This is the same thing as the 25 frame movie, your retina sense it, but your brain doesn`t receive it.
*LOL*
I know, tell me about it... wtb 25fps monitor.... ;)
On a more serious note though, you've slightly mis-quoted me there, as it wasn't myself that said that, I was (in turn) quoting someone else.... but hey... the new effects are superb, so it's all good ;)
I'm also a bit drunk, so, I think I'll call it quits at this point (probably) and go play on Sisi... |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
362
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Posted - 2011.11.15 01:15:00 -
[79] - Quote
Barakkus wrote:In case no one posted it yet....warping through a sun (and improved sun graphics) http://youtu.be/NnXz1vyV9asBtw, I am unfamilliar with some of these station graphics, I thought i had seen all the station graphic designs, is the one during the credits of that video new or just something I hadn't seen?
that video is one year old. |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Of Mordor
2
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Posted - 2011.11.15 01:53:00 -
[80] - Quote
IMHO
We should go around the planet by dipping through the upper atmosphere in a translucent flame, colour depending on type of planet, at a slower speed 50-90% light speed. Then when passed the planet we speed up as normal. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
368
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Posted - 2011.11.15 04:19:00 -
[81] - Quote
Merovee wrote:IMHO We should go around the planet by dipping through the upper atmosphere in a translucent flame, colour depending on type of planet, at a slower speed 50-90% light speed. Then when passed the planet we speed up as normal.
setting up the game to recognize a planet is coming up, alter your course around it (increasing warp time slightly), alter the art, etc would take a whole lot of effort - for something not much more eyegasmic than this.
also, EVE ships are unstable in the atmosphere - both aerodynamically and chemically.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tritanium |
Nypheas Azurai
Azimuth Enterprises
43
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Posted - 2011.11.15 08:03:00 -
[82] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:[quote=Merovee]setting up the game to recognize a planet is coming up, alter your course around it (increasing warp time slightly), alter the art, etc would take a whole lot of effort - for something not much more eyegasmic than this.
Actually it wouldn't increase warp time, I came up with this idea a long time ago the first time my immersion was shattered:
- Client receives a list of celestials in current system
- Client does necessary "transitions" (either by warping around or through or light tunnel, etc) when calculating a warp tunnel intersects a celestial
- According to server, path taken is straight line
The calculations are not hard (straight line intersection), the transitions aren't hard either (approximate spline curve around celestial or simply follow it's circumference), and time can be sped up locally when warping around so that the warp time is equal as the server would perceive in a straight line.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
322
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Posted - 2011.11.15 13:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Merovee wrote:IMHO We should go around the planet by dipping through the upper atmosphere in a translucent flame, colour depending on type of planet, at a slower speed 50-90% light speed. Then when passed the planet we speed up as normal. setting up the game to recognize a planet is coming up, alter your course around it (increasing warp time slightly), alter the art, etc would take a whole lot of effort - for something not much more eyegasmic than this. also, EVE ships are unstable in the atmosphere - both aerodynamically and chemically. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tritanium
You do realize we alloy tritanium to get rid of some of the properties.
Becuase if we didnt our own ship's atmospheres would rot the entire ship out.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
322
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Posted - 2011.11.15 13:28:00 -
[84] - Quote
Nypheas Azurai wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:[quote=Merovee]setting up the game to recognize a planet is coming up, alter your course around it (increasing warp time slightly), alter the art, etc would take a whole lot of effort - for something not much more eyegasmic than this.
Actually it wouldn't increase warp time, I came up with this idea a long time ago the first time my immersion was shattered: - Client receives a list of celestials in current system - Client does necessary "transitions" (either by warping around or through or light tunnel, etc) when calculating a warp tunnel intersects a celestial - According to server, path taken is straight line The calculations are not hard (straight line intersection), the transitions aren't hard either (approximate spline curve around celestial or simply follow it's circumference), and time can be sped up locally when warping around so that the warp time is equal as the server would perceive in a straight line.
It would increase time on the client though and server.
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