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BuckStrider Nano-Tech Experiments 218	Posted - 2014.04.06 15:42:00 - [31] - Quote Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote: Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones. Usual arguments for this generic kill are: - "I can". Everything told, here. - "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system. -"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise? -"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod. -"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec. What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players? Instead of coming here, you should contact a certain CSM vice chairman with a obscure blog about 'bullying'. I hear that he's a real expert on the subject. Insert Signature Here.....
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3118	Posted - 2014.04.06 16:03:00 - [32] - Quote BuckStrider wrote: I hear that he's a real expert on the subject. He bullied us all with his bully-** * Vote MTU For CSM * Free The Jita 1** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2014.04.06 16:41:00 - [33] - Quote Excuse me, I didn't get the message. We're allowed to podkill now?
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 1741	Posted - 2014.04.06 16:54:00 - [34] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: There's so much wrong with his post... I literally don't know what retort to use. Wavering between "watchlisted" "uninstall", and "Go back to WoW". I had considered "highsec is not supposed to be safe", but others have made that point already. You forgot the classic, "hello there future war target."* * best when spoken in Cannibal Kane's voice "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion *** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***
Yarda Black Epidemic. Nulli Secunda 109	Posted - 2014.04.06 16:55:00 - [35] - Quote You can do whatever you want in EVE. So you can choose to be in pod in h-sec. You're doing it wrong. Also, click warp if someone puts you in one
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 1741	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:02:00 - [36] - Quote Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote: Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones. Skulls and Bones.... why pick that? Hmmm.. oh wait guys.... we're totally wrong about this thread. This is a "podkilling is Bush's fault" thread. Thanks Bush. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion *** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***
Victor Andall Complexes and Abaddons 356	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:26:00 - [37] - Quote OP, if you got podded in any sort of space, you deserved it. In 99% of all the cases you could have escaped and chose not to. Pod kills before Victor Andall knew how to save his pod: 2 Last Pod kill: 157 days ago, 30 days after starting to play Pod kills after Victor Andall learned how to save his pod: 0 As you can see, learning how to save your pod can lead to up to a 100% reduction in pod losses. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1544	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:26:00 - [38] - Quote I declared war on the OP because of this thread.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3123	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:31:00 - [39] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: I declared war on the OP because of this thread. I have sent you a gift of isk to help in protracting the war * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1609	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:31:00 - [40] - Quote Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: This is a "podkilling is Bush's fault" thread. Thanks Bush. I always wondered if there was a space Bush in EVE. Then I realised there HAVE to be space bushes somewhere, otherwise the Federation Navy ship choice of camo would just be downright silly! BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 1742	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:40:00 - [41] - Quote Victor Andall wrote: OP, if you got podded in any sort of space, you deserved it. In 99% of all the cases you could have escaped and chose not to. Pod kills before Victor Andall knew how to save his pod: 2 Last Pod kill: 157 days ago, 30 days after starting to play Pod kills after Victor Andall learned how to save his pod: 0 As you can see, learning how to save your pod can lead to up to a 100% reduction in pod losses. Well... lets say 95%.. and that is if you stay out of nullsec and wormholes. Go to lowsec where smartbombs are more common and you're liable to loose a few pods. After my very first pod loss, I've only lost pods in hisec due to FWI, Flying While Intoxicated. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion *** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1227	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:43:00 - [42] - Quote Ok, now I just woke up... But my reading comprehension is usually pretty good... Just so I make sure I read correctly... Pod-killing is cyber-bullying now? shakes head Oh my dear, dear EvE....what has happened to you? Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1547	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:51:00 - [43] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: I declared war on the OP because of this thread. I have sent you a gift of isk to help in protracting the war Every ISK I receive goes towards making some highsec dwelling carebear enjoy the game less.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1609	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:53:00 - [44] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Pod-killing is cyber-bullying now? shakes head Oh my dear, dear EvE....what has happened to you? Oh dont you start. I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new. So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3124	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:54:00 - [45] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: I declared war on the OP because of this thread. I have sent you a gift of isk to help in protracting the war Every ISK I receive goes towards making some highsec dwelling carebear enjoy the game less. I would have sent more, but thats all Ma allowed me for this week's allowance * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20490	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:57:00 - [46] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Every ISK I receive goes towards making some highsec dwelling carebear enjoy the game less. I would have sent more, but thats all Ma allowed me for this week's allowance Your Ma needs a good podding so she learns the true value of space-money. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Juan Diolosa The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 7	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:59:00 - [47] - Quote Meilandra Vanderganken wrote: Why would you consider it bullying? Because it is the buzzword of the day.
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1227	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:00:00 - [48] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Pod-killing is cyber-bullying now? shakes head Oh my dear, dear EvE....what has happened to you? Oh dont you start. I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new. So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing. +1 for making me laugh. Dude, it was back to business as usual the day after, lol. Just being trollish and facetious. C'mon now. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Ma'Baker McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 23	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:03:00 - [49] - Quote Tippia wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Every ISK I receive goes towards making some highsec dwelling carebear enjoy the game less. I would have sent more, but thats all Ma allowed me for this week's allowance Your Ma needs a good podding so she learns the true value of space-money. An ah suppose y'all ur gonna gimme wun, huh? Y'lissen here Missy-Moneybags, ah werk ma finggers to t'bone fer this fambly Whut ah give Mona fer an allowance aint nowuns bus-e-ness but mayn n' hers an' whut she does w'it aftur that is up to her If she wants't support a war fer no raisin at all, we that's jes fine an dandy
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1610	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:05:00 - [50] - Quote Ma'Baker McCandless wrote: Tippia wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Every ISK I receive goes towards making some highsec dwelling carebear enjoy the game less. I would have sent more, but thats all Ma allowed me for this week's allowance Your Ma needs a good podding so she learns the true value of space-money. An ah suppose y'all ur gonna gimme wun, huh? Y'lissen here Missy-Moneybags, ah werk ma finggers to t'bone fer this fambly Whut ah give Mona fer an allowance aint nowuns bus-e-ness but mayn n' hers an' whut she does w'it aftur that is up to her If she wants't support a war fer no raisin at all, we that's jes fine an dandy +1 for committing to the joke. You know, this topic turned out alright in the end. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3126	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:06:00 - [51] - Quote Ma'Baker McCandless wrote: ...... Mother! Please! I KNOW people here! YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE! storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
RAIN Arthie The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing 241	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:07:00 - [52] - Quote Your in a catch 22. CCP says that when you undock your consenting to fight. You can scam and shoot new players all you want. But if you bring up politics ....oh dear. The plex for good is a prime example of what I mean. People were getting wardeced and bothered. Their ransom was a plex for good and the dec was lifted. That is against the law and called coercion. However nothing was done about that. Now need I bring up the monocal scandal? I don't think so. You have a better chance at a fair fight with a spiked baseball bat fighting zombies. I am waiting for the day a plex gets stolen and charges are filed. It wouldn't suprise me.
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1228	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:12:00 - [53] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Ma'Baker McCandless wrote: ...... Mother! Please! I KNOW people here! YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE! storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume Not angst-ridden enough. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3129	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:16:00 - [54] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Not angst-ridden enough. Im writing goth poetry/suicide note as I speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMGsxG73wQ * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Boomtown Jones Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:18:00 - [55] - Quote Splendid troll bait post. Look how many he caught!
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1610	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:20:00 - [56] - Quote Boomtown Jones wrote: Splendid troll bait post. Look how many he caught! EDIT: just remembered we arent supposed to link killmails. Either way, OP got podded in HEK moments before making this topic. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1229	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:20:00 - [57] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Not angst-ridden enough. Im writing goth poetry/suicide note as I speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMGsxG73wQ Fishnet veil and everything? Well, retract my previous statement then. You are like at a 10/10 on the angst-o-meter. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1229	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:22:00 - [58] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: Boomtown Jones wrote: Splendid troll bait post. Look how many he caught! EDIT: just remembered we arent supposed to link killmails. Either way, OP got podded in HEK moments before making this topic. I wonder if he forgot to update his clone. Hmmmmmm...... OP, what skill took a hit? Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3129	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:22:00 - [59] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Fishnet veil and everything? Well, retract my previous statement then. You are like at a 10/10 on the angst-o-meter. Everything I wear in angst-mode is made of fishnet EVERYTHING * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20492	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:24:00 - [60] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE! storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse! She definitely deserves a podding. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.

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