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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:02:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:YES, pod kills are bullying.
Why? They're unnecessary. It's that simple. It's also not true, which complicates matters.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3341
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:02:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:
THEREFORE: It is bullying. Water is wet. Concrete is hard. Podding is bullying. Have a nice day.
Stupid people need punishing. Have a nice day.
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"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1667
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:05:00 -
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Boy, you best be trollin' .
BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
1261
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:13:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:
THEREFORE: It is bullying.
Paging Ripard. Can I get a CSM over here? Think we have a man down.
Vyl Vit wrote:
Water is wet.
Sometimes. Temperature usually has a lot to do with that.
Vyl Vit wrote:
Concrete is hard.
Not when it's freshly mixed and laid.
Vyl Vit wrote:
Podding is bullying.
I call it stimulation of the implant economy. 
Vyl Vit wrote:
Have a nice day.
You too, glad I was able to sort all of that out for you.
  
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3016
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:17:00 -
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Hullo, sorry been away for a while and didn't scroll up. So what are we fighting about today?
"Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20577
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:30:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Hullo, sorry been away for a while and didn't scroll up. So what are we fighting about today?
Eggs.
White-shelled or brown-shelled. Be very careful about what you answer. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3345
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Hullo, sorry been away for a while and didn't scroll up. So what are we fighting about today? Eggs. White-shelled or brown-shelled. Be very careful about what you answer.
I like ducks' eggyweggs
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"They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn
"Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2571
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:39:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:shooting the pod has no functional necessity
Playing EVE has no functional necessity. Perhaps you should stop.
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Xarkon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:07:00 -
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One gets podded to make sure that the respawn at home medical station of choice subroutine executes properly. CCP pulled the ultimate scam by making us all pay them a monthly subscription to beta test their coding that they can reference in future resumes and/or raise promotions. Bastards. |
Glathull
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
387
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Hullo, sorry been away for a while and didn't scroll up. So what are we fighting about today? Eggs. White-shelled or brown-shelled. Be very careful about what you answer.
Does it matter what color they are after they are broken? You know . . . like a pod?
To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20592
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:25:00 -
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Glathull wrote:Does it matter what color they are after they are broken? You know . . . like a pod?
Good question. HmmGǪ
I suppose it might be harder to spot any pieces of the shell that might have gotten mixed up with the contents if it's a white one?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4588
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:26:00 -
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Glathull wrote:Tippia wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Hullo, sorry been away for a while and didn't scroll up. So what are we fighting about today? Eggs. White-shelled or brown-shelled. Be very careful about what you answer. Does it matter what color they are after they are broken? You know . . . like a pod?
I've waited a long time to say this on this forum...
"It's all the same color on the inside."
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Grape Juice
Missing Clones Syndicate
The.Spanish.Inquisition
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:05:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I've waited a long time to say this on this forum...
"It's all the same color on the inside."
And that color is 'squishy'. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1639
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:17:00 -
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That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1670
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:21:00 -
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Thank you for that, I am in tears now, lmfao.
This one was good too, don't know how I missed it pre-necro....
Jenn aSide wrote:I will never understand why people will choose to play a video game that features spaceships with guns on them then act surprised when someone shoots them.
Does this happen in other games? Is there right now some dude playing FIFA 14 on his Playstation 4 reacting with utter shock and dismay that other people can kick the ball like he can in multi-player?
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18100
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:58:00 -
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One of my alts has been podded a few times, mostly in wormholes and once in highsec. **** happens.
Lesson learnt from the highsec incident ; never undock, for messing with concord, in a pod with a criminal flag, especially when you've forgotten to ship into a shuttle because you're *faced.
Said goodbye a set of +4's, and hello to a grossly oversized and hence overpriced clone because I was drunk and clicked on phi instead of pi.
It happens, deal with it, or moan on the forums so that we can poke fun, either way is good.
Never go full Ripard |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
757
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:15:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Vyl Vit wrote:
THEREFORE: It is bullying. Water is wet. Concrete is hard. Podding is bullying. Have a nice day.
Stupid people need punishing. Have a nice day.
Just get Ripard to blog about it
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
Xarkon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.04.23 23:53:00 -
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Pod kills in high-sec space are done because of the chance that between the time your ship blows up and you get podded, there might have been a multi-billion ISK bounty placed upon you. Statistically, it is possible. |
George Gouillot
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
11
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:15:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:Hmmm is OP Ripard Teg alt?
he's not, he was not using the word "torture" |
George Gouillot
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
11
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:20:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
you obviously didn't |
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:20:00 -
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I don't care about reship time and this tactics things, whatever.. I am just curious what's inside the egg |
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:37:00 -
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Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote:Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.
Usual arguments for this generic kill are:
- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.
What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?
This is a pvp game. Every aspect about it is about pvp. Even the limited security of living in high sec does not make you immune from pvp in this game. No one is guaranteed safety anywhere in eve. Granted. You could never undock. Then you would never be at risk.
As for pods. Pods are something with value. They have implants. They hold skills. Naturally they are a target for pvp. Why would they not be? |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
817
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:47:00 -
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Before implants showed up in pod kills one might make the argument that pod killing was bullying. Now you can get some pretty nice kills. I've seen a cheap T1 fitted frigate kill lead to a billion ISK pod kill.
One of my favorite memories as a child was opening up Christmas presents and seeing what I got. Killing a pod is like opening up a present. You might get an empty box or something really awesome. |
Trevor Dalech
Dalechar Pest Control
34
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Posted - 2014.04.24 03:09:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:
Does podding someone present a beneficial circumstance that did not exist before? No. It does not.
Yes it does, aside from any possible bounty it removes one potential hostile from local. If you leave the pod alive they might be able to reship in system, kill the pod and they'll have to travel first, and you will notice them showing up again.
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Does it create a circumstance that can be seen as humiliating on a certain level? Yes. It does.
Indeed it does, getting your pod caught in high sec is humiliating. You just humiliated yourself for doing such a thing. Don't shift the blame to the guy that actually pulled the trigger, he is completely innocent in this matter.
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Is a person in a pod helpless to defend against being podded (aside from the slim chance of escape)? Yes. Undeniably.
The chance of escape is not slim, it's a near certainty. There are no bubbles in high sec, and smart bombing ships are rather rare in high sec as far as I know (do they even work?) |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1342
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Posted - 2014.04.24 03:15:00 -
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Trevor Dalech wrote:The chance of escape is not slim, it's a near certainty. There are no bubbles in high sec, and smart bombing ships are rather rare in high sec as far as I know (do they even work?)
Yep, safety to red and smart bomb away.
Frequently followed by Concord when you hit an unintended target.
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2199
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Posted - 2014.04.24 04:51:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:I don't care about reship time and this tactics things, whatever.. I am just curious what's inside the egg
"Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson after me asking him why he killed my 40mil pod when ganking me.
I used to have some pitty, but after a years worth of listening to the people with the most protection in this game (hisecers) whine about being violenced, I now feel the same way as Turgesson.
I know violence isn't the answer, I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3303
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Posted - 2014.04.24 07:23:00 -
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How is this discussion still going on? Yes, killing pods is bullying if either your target or a passing CSM member is sad about it, and making up reasons won't make those people less sad.
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Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
591
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Posted - 2014.04.24 07:46:00 -
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Pod kills are fair play anywhere. Even carebunnies know that. I don't like to pvp but I expect it anytime I undock, so I fly ships properly fitted and don't do silly things (normally). Fly what you can afford to lose, and if you lose it and your pod don't take it personally, it is just a game and the risk is what makes it slightly more fun. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Advanced Amateurs
1253
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Posted - 2014.04.24 08:43:00 -
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Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote:What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?
Does it build community? WTF? Are you stoned?
By the way, yes it hardens players, but most importanty killing a pod on your grid while you are yellow flashy prevents their friends from warping on the pod to return fire. You are welcome. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
785
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Posted - 2014.04.24 09:08:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:I don't care about reship time and this tactics things, whatever.. I am just curious what's inside the egg "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson after me asking him why he killed my 40mil pod when ganking me. I used to have some pitty, but after a years worth of listening to the people with the most protection in this game (hisecers) whine about being violenced, I now feel the same way as Turgesson.
Pod condom.... that's a new one for me.
5h sleep.
Need coffee.
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