I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things.

I like corpses.

What's 'secure space' and where can I find it?

What's 'secure space' and where can I find it?

What's 'secure space' and where can I find it?

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

What I dont understand is

Why do people let their pods get killed?

Alcohol

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

I hear that he's a real expert on the subject.

There's so much wrong with his post... I literally don't know what retort to use.

Wavering between "watchlisted" "uninstall", and "Go back to WoW". I had considered "highsec is not supposed to be safe", but others have made that point already.

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

I declared war on the OP because of this thread.

This is a "podkilling is Bush's fault" thread. Thanks Bush.

OP, if you got podded in any sort of space, you deserved it. In 99% of all the cases you could have escaped and chose not to.

Pod kills before Victor Andall knew how to save his pod: 2
Last Pod kill: 157 days ago, 30 days after starting to play

Pod kills after Victor Andall learned how to save his pod: 0

As you can see, learning how to save your pod can lead to up to a 100% reduction in pod losses.

I have sent you a gift of isk to help in protracting the war

Pod-killing is cyber-bullying now?

*shakes head*

Oh my dear, dear EvE....what has happened to you?

Every ISK I receive goes towards making some highsec dwelling carebear enjoy the game less.

I would have sent more, but thats all Ma allowed me for this week's allowance

Why would you consider it bullying?

Oh dont you start.

I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new.
So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing.

Your Ma needs a good podding so she learns the true value of space-money.

An ah suppose y'all ur gonna gimme wun, huh?

Y'lissen here Missy-Moneybags, ah werk ma finggers to t'bone fer this fambly

Whut ah give Mona fer an allowance aint nowuns bus-e-ness but mayn n' hers

an' whut she does w'it aftur that is up to her

If she wants't support a war fer no raisin at all, we that's jes fine an dandy

......

Mother! Please!

I KNOW people here!

YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE!

**storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume**

Not angst-ridden enough.

Splendid troll bait post. Look how many he caught!

Im writing goth poetry/suicide note as I speak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMGsxG73wQ

EDIT: just remembered we arent supposed to link killmails.

Either way, OP got podded in HEK moments before making this topic.

Fishnet veil and everything?

Well, retract my previous statement then.

You are like at a 10/10 on the angst-o-meter.

YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE!

**storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume**

See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse!
She definitely deserves a podding.

See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse!
She definitely deserves a podding.

Everything I wear in angst-mode is made of fishnet

EVERYTHING

There are so many reasons to destroy the pod...

Is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible?

I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP.

Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria?

Probably trying to find his fedora now that he's on the CSM ballot list.

Again? Man, I can't wait for his 'My body is ready remix 2014'.

Why would you consider it bullying? It-¦s just another thing to shoot and specially in hi sec it can get you very expensive kills.

This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.

Oh dont you start.

I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new.
So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing.

I refer you to my earlier post.

This.

This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.

First of all, the list of ways that CCP has made Eve softer since 2007 is pretty damn long. It's undeniable that Eve is getting soft (but I'm sure you will keep denying it anyway).

But that wasn't the point I was making. My point was that as soon as you allow someone to get away with using the "bullying" tag for interactions in or about a video game, other people see that and follow by example. Because carebears saw that using the "bullying" tag, even when completely unjustified, gets results, "bullying" could become their new go-to whine on the forums.

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

If you stick around after your ship gets blown up I just assume you want a quick ride home.

I know I call for "Pod Express" in local when I get my ass blown up in hostile space. [and High Sec is about as hostile as space can get imho.]

It's also economically a good idea to kill pods, because you diminish the assets and perhaps morale of a group that isn't yours. Power and wealth are relative. If you feel confident the consequences of the killright you recieve are worth a podkill, sec stat drops will hardly stop people. Sec stat gains are a side effect of PVE anyway.

Is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible?

No, they are not. It is a competitive game: I try to pod you, you try not to be podded.

Secure space? The only secure space is docked up...

Was excited about incarna and removal of dock3d up safety...

The only thing worse than hanging onto the dream of WiS is the idea that they would have let you violence the people walking in the stations

This would not have happened.

As long as we get the "Tea Bag" feature in WIS as well when violating peoples personal space in station.

The only thing worse than hanging onto the dream of WiS is the idea that they would have let you violence the people walking in the stations

This would not have happened.

1 Was.

2 Room safety is fine but expecting that station wide is ridiculous.

100m for whoever pods the OP and hand delivers the corpse to me. 200m if there is significant verifiable SP lost.

Please define secure space. I can think of none in eve.

I think he means sov null WH space. Oh and nerf highsec.

Yeah, everyone should crack open a cold one now and then...

1 Was what? You saying there arent people holding onto the idea that WiS woudl have allowed instation violences?

2 Why would anyone come out of their room? And why would CONCORD officers not be present like city guards to tazer you and sling you in the drunk tank for brawling or attempted murder?

Thats even if it had been coded that your character could attack others in the first place, which given the development strategies of CCP so far seems highly unlikely

100m for whoever pods the OP and hand delivers the corpse to me. 200m if there is significant verifiable SP lost.

...and CCP having said essentially that if you do something where you stand to get no profit for it youre harassing someone...

There might be Concord officers in station, but you still can't make us care. If we want to kill you in station.... we will find a way.

YES, pod kills are bullying.

Why? They're unnecessary. It's that simple.

THEREFORE: It is bullying. Water is wet. Concrete is hard. Podding is bullying. Have a nice day.

stuff

THEREFORE: It is bullying.

Water is wet.

Concrete is hard.

Podding is bullying.

Have a nice day.

Hullo, sorry been away for a while and didn't scroll up. So what are we fighting about today?

Eggs.
White-shelled or brown-shelled. Be very careful about what you answer.

shooting the pod has no functional necessity

Eggs.
White-shelled or brown-shelled. Be very careful about what you answer.

Does it matter what color they are after they are broken? You know . . . like a pod?

Does it matter what color they are after they are broken? You know . . . like a pod?

I've waited a long time to say this on this forum...

"It's all the same color on the inside."

Translation:

http://i.imgur.com/Du6i8T5.png

I will never understand why people will choose to play a video game that features spaceships with guns on them then act surprised when someone shoots them.

Does this happen in other games? Is there right now some dude playing FIFA 14 on his Playstation 4 reacting with utter shock and dismay that other people can kick the ball like he can in multi-player?

Stupid people need punishing. Have a nice day.

Hmmm is OP Ripard Teg alt?

Anyone with any sense has already left town.

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

Does podding someone present a beneficial circumstance that did not exist before? No. It does not.

Does it create a circumstance that can be seen as humiliating on a certain level? Yes. It does.

Is a person in a pod helpless to defend against being podded (aside from the slim chance of escape)? Yes. Undeniably.

The chance of escape is not slim, it's a near certainty. There are no bubbles in high sec, and smart bombing ships are rather rare in high sec as far as I know (do they even work?)

I don't care about reship time and this tactics things, whatever.. I am just curious what's inside the egg

What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

"Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson after me asking him why he killed my 40mil pod when ganking me.

I used to have some pitty, but after a years worth of listening to the people with the most protection in this game (hisecers) whine about being violenced, I now feel the same way as Turgesson.

Pod kills are fair play anywhere. Even carebunnies know that. I don't like to pvp but I expect it anytime I undock, so I fly ships properly fitted and don't do silly things (normally). Fly what you can afford to lose, and if you lose it and your pod don't take it personally, it is just a game and the risk is what makes it slightly more fun.

Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?

Probably less their resources than yours, since you'll want tags to repair your sec status. Unless you are one of those "the dog tags i loot are free" hippies.

/Fÿ¡