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Uncle Sidney McCandless Turing Holdings Turing Tested 0	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:26:00 - [61] - Quote Tippia wrote: See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse! She definitely deserves a podding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7D65SFOhM
Mag's the united SCUM. 17009	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:27:00 - [62] - Quote Tippia wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE! storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse! She definitely deserves a podding. MILF alert. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1229	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:28:00 - [63] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Everything I wear in angst-mode is made of fishnet EVERYTHING Well then, you Ramona, get the Angst Stamp Of ApprovalGäó Congratulations!!!!!!!!!! Nothing says angst like fishnet on top of fishnet. edit I fixed quote. CCP...fix forums. Kthanks. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.* -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4678	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:33:00 - [64] - Quote There are so many reasons to destroy the pod... Bring back DEEEEP Space!
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1613	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:36:00 - [65] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: There are so many reasons to destroy the pod... I blame kinder surprise for teaching me that every egg has a present inside. BUT IF I GET ONE MORE ***** PUZZLE I SWEAR TO [deity] I AM GOING TO AWOX SOMEONE! BoBwins Law**: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Django Askulf Black Rebel Death Squad 24	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:40:00 - [66] - Quote Speaking of pods, is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible?
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 597	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:56:00 - [67] - Quote Django Askulf wrote: Is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible? As said above, we've been conditioned by Kinder Suprise Eggs that they hold presents inside, and a Golden Egg must have some special prize inside no? So POD IT! That said, generally you can warp out fast enough to avoid being podded, reason you make sure you fly at least in a shuttle. -áAyem Colony Expansion Progress -á First year anniversary of the Caldari Prime battle was a success!
Haedonism Bot Revolutionary Front 1075	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:01:00 - [68] - Quote I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3974	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:03:00 - [69] - Quote Haedonism Bot wrote: I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP. Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria?
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 17701	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:06:00 - [70] - Quote Jake Warbird wrote: Haedonism Bot wrote: I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP. Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria? Probably trying to find his fedora now that he's on the CSM ballot list. Psychotic Monk for CSM 9.-áWould you like to more? Be sure to vote in the CSM 9 elections, they are your voice at CCP
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3974	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:08:00 - [71] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Jake Warbird wrote: Haedonism Bot wrote: I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP. Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria? Probably trying to find his fedora now that he's on the CSM ballot list. Again? Man, I can't wait for his 'My body is ready remix 2014'.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 17701	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:12:00 - [72] - Quote Jake Warbird wrote: Again? Man, I can't wait for his 'My body is ready remix 2014'. Every election needs a Screaming Lord Sutch His election campaign should be "interesting" to say the least. Cue tinfoil about conspiracies, transgender persecution etc. Psychotic Monk for CSM 9.-áWould you like to more? Be sure to vote in the CSM 9 elections, they are your voice at CCP
Brusanan Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 260	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:12:00 - [73] - Quote Meilandra Vanderganken wrote: Why would you consider it bullying? It-¦s just another thing to shoot and specially in hi sec it can get you very expensive kills. This. This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM!
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1613	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:18:00 - [74] - Quote Brusanan wrote: This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them. I refer you to my earlier post. KuroVolt wrote: Oh dont you start. I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new. So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Brusanan Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 260	Posted - 2014.04.06 19:53:00 - [75] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: Brusanan wrote: This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them. I refer you to my earlier post. KuroVolt wrote: Oh dont you start. I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new. So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing. First of all, the list of ways that CCP has made Eve softer since 2007 is pretty damn long. It's undeniable that Eve is getting soft (but I'm sure you will keep denying it anyway). But that wasn't the point I was making. My point was that as soon as you allow someone to get away with using the "bullying" tag for interactions in or about a video game, other people see that and follow by example. Because carebears saw that using the "bullying" tag, even when completely unjustified, gets results, "bullying" could become their new go-to whine on the forums. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM!
Silvara Nocturn Nocturn Industries 76	Posted - 2014.04.06 20:31:00 - [76] - Quote In quake you frag people, in eve you pod people. I don't think it means more than that. The only difference is the respawn cost.
Silvara Nocturn Nocturn Industries 76	Posted - 2014.04.06 20:35:00 - [77] - Quote Brusanan wrote: Meilandra Vanderganken wrote: Why would you consider it bullying? It-¦s just another thing to shoot and specially in hi sec it can get you very expensive kills. This. This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them. Don't be surprised if this a false flag post to rustle up the villians.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1615	Posted - 2014.04.06 20:37:00 - [78] - Quote Brusanan wrote: KuroVolt wrote: Brusanan wrote: This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them. I refer you to my earlier post. KuroVolt wrote: Oh dont you start. I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new. So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing. First of all, the list of ways that CCP has made Eve softer since 2007 is pretty damn long. It's undeniable that Eve is getting soft (but I'm sure you will keep denying it anyway). But that wasn't the point I was making. My point was that as soon as you allow someone to get away with using the "bullying" tag for interactions in or about a video game, other people see that and follow by example. Because carebears saw that using the "bullying" tag, even when completely unjustified, gets results, "bullying" could become their new go-to whine on the forums. Man, I see you have some very strong opinions on the topic. I could swear I can actually feel the resentment when you are saying "carebears". For that reason I am not going to continue this discussion, lest I trigger an emotional reaction from you. I wouldnt want you to feel like I am bullying you. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 15011	Posted - 2014.04.06 21:15:00 - [79] - Quote Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote: Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones. Usual arguments for this generic kill are: - "I can". Everything told, here. - "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system. -"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise? -"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod. -"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec. What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players? In short, no. There are legitimate reasons to kill pods in any area of space. And EVE is a PvP spaceships game,. Shooting other at other players needs no excuse in any case. 1 Kings 12:11
Tweek Etimua Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2014.04.06 22:05:00 - [80] - Quote Yes get use to it.
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting 1235	Posted - 2014.04.06 23:29:00 - [81] - Quote It's also economically a good idea to kill pods, because you diminish the assets and perhaps morale of a group that isn't yours. Power and wealth are relative. If you feel confident the consequences of the killright you recieve are worth a podkill, sec stat drops will hardly stop people. Sec stat gains are a side effect of PVE anyway.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4680	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:45:00 - [82] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: If you stick around after your ship gets blown up I just assume you want a quick ride home. I know I call for "Pod Express" in local when I get my ass blown up in hostile space. [and High Sec is about as hostile as space can get imho.] I've done things so wrong that I would just wait to get podded, like "well I really screwed the pooch might as well die too". Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sibyyl 362	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:31:00 - [83] - Quote Inxentas Ultramar wrote: It's also economically a good idea to kill pods, because you diminish the assets and perhaps morale of a group that isn't yours. Power and wealth are relative. If you feel confident the consequences of the killright you recieve are worth a podkill, sec stat drops will hardly stop people. Sec stat gains are a side effect of PVE anyway. Probably less their resources than yours, since you'll want tags to repair your sec status. Unless you are one of those "the dog tags i loot are free" hippies. /Fÿ¡ Now that you are campers you will have more parties and no more sad lonely bubbles.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 3160	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:34:00 - [84] - Quote I've been podded in HS just because I'm an older player and they know my pods aren't cheap. Probably because I'm an a**hole in part too... If I were my enemy I'd pod me. On an average day, even when ganking in a Tornado, my pod is worth a lot more than my ship and fittings. It's a valid tactic. cockandballs. Every. Time. EvE Spaceship Guide Works in game only and not updated often
Teochoilae Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2014.04.07 05:25:00 - [85] - Quote Django Askulf wrote: Is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible? I haven't run across one of those yet, I just get the black pods...must be doing it wrong.
Bruce Kemp Suddenly taken over 107	Posted - 2014.04.07 06:30:00 - [86] - Quote Dude its a game....
Lucas Kell JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance 3056	Posted - 2014.04.07 07:10:00 - [87] - Quote It's only bullying if the person being podded has a sad. So you have to check to make sure they are OK with being podded first, and check with a CSM member that might decide that the victims word means nothing first. Once you've got all that checked out and cleared, you can proceed to pod the player, but then you can't boast about it, otherwise they might then get sad and that would become bullying. Clear enough? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Cannibal Kane Somali Coast Guard Authority 3531	Posted - 2014.04.07 07:15:00 - [88] - Quote Apparently if you were to believe the EVE mails I receive I have no Friends. So I pod as many people as I can so their corpses can be my friends. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS
Balshem Rozenzweig Akademia Milicyjna The North is Coming 38	Posted - 2014.04.07 07:46:00 - [89] - Quote Why are you playing this game? I believe when a dude mines minerals, buys BPOs, manufactures an item and sells it with much profit he feels some sense of fulfillment. I do to - when I pod. Podding is hard. It usually requires you to set your ship up properly and in a way that lowers your dps/tank/utility. Podding makes me feel either lucky and/or skilled. Podding is warm and fuzzy and feels like butterflies. The game does not generate food, electricity or heat for you. You play it for fun. So should you stop because it gives you nothing? Also - if gankers are bad because they ruin your fun what will you say about competing miners and industrialists? I have limited skills in mining and industry. I could not compete with them unless I invested heavily. Aren't they trade ganking me? I want the fulfillment of mining minerals, manufacturing items, and generating huge profit. Maybe only once a week but I do. And I had to come to terms with the fact I will never be able to. Because industrialists grind prices down so hard they leave no spot for me. They could, right? They still don't. PS - this character has almost a month invested in mining/industry. Real story bro. Singature Radius 48 m
Zappity Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 948	Posted - 2014.04.07 07:55:00 - [90] - Quote No, they are not. It is a competitive game: I try to pod you, you try not to be podded. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.

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