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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.14 08:17:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner 
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Another fellow being spreading the word about Jack Bauer. It warms my heart. 
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SuHwak
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Posted - 2006.05.14 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: SuHwak on 14/05/2006 08:27:07
Ah, finally an official reply. I had posted a similer thread here:
Clicky
So, hit me with those picture already!!
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Xade
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Posted - 2006.05.14 09:00:00 -
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if you want a way to do things in eve while on the move try www.desktopmobiles.com. its a java based VNC client for your mobile phone. I have used this with my nokia N70 mobile phone while i have been away for the last couple of months and it has worked great for changing skills and doing some research and market stuff.
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JForce
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Posted - 2006.05.15 01:48:00 -
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Are there any plans to port to any other mobile os?
My smartphone is coming to the end of its life, and I'd planned to get the next model, the Sony Ericsson P990. However it runs Symbian3.0, not Windows mobile.
If you tell me that there are NO plans within the next 2 years or so to port to Symbian, I'll get a Windows mobile phone/pda.
If you tell me you will/probably will then I'll get the SE.
Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
JForce
The Arrow Project
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.05.15 02:05:00 -
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I don't suppose there's any chance of being able to use this on PsP?
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JForce
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Posted - 2006.05.15 02:25:00 -
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Read the rest of the thread, someone mentions a Windows Mobile5.0 version for PSP out there somewhere....I imagine that would allow you to do it
JForce
The Arrow Project
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Active1313
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Posted - 2006.05.15 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Active1313 on 15/05/2006 02:56:01
Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
hmmm MDA you say, that alleviates some of my concerns from earlier wehen I read that "Smartphones" wouldn't be supported and that I may be forced to do something drastic  but now thanks to this news I can just sit back and wait knowing that "Soon" I can play Eve some facet of Eve on the go in a more expected sort of way and not the Ubernerdy way I play on the go currently...The way real nerds do it you ask? Phone as a modem is how, best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. I can manage to look all Chloe O'Brien sitting anywhere I have cell coverage basically (EVDO Technically) connect my USB cable and dial-up the Intarwebs and then proceed to play Eve across a 230.4K "Dial-up" connection....oh and the even better thing about it...I dont pay extra for data services 
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Xandyr Kayn
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Posted - 2006.05.15 03:38:00 -
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Jack Bauer is the new Chuck Norris!!!
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iqplayer
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Posted - 2006.05.15 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Active1313
....connect my USB cable and dial-up...
You had me right up till here :D USB is so yesterday - bluetooth 4tw :D That way, my phone can still be in my pocket while I play Eve, and noone has to know my little (nerdy) secret ;)
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Bob Niac
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Posted - 2006.05.15 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117
can u make eve-movibile on my psp? make it in a web browser?
or make it so that i can run it on my psp as a home brew from my flash memmory?
OMG give the man a beer!
Finally a use for my PSP... i would LOVE this. UMDs are kinda cheap to make now... imagine VOICE CHAT (1 way via the new infrastructure) with your corp ... Sell orders ... Buy orders.. Completeing agent offers... the possibilities are endless!
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George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
kieron, you mentioned WindowsMobile5, any chances it's going to run on WindowsMobile2003 SE too?
- GP
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DDaisy
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Posted - 2006.05.15 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: MysticNZ
Originally by: Waragha
Originally by: Jai Cee
Eve mobile really got me excited until I found it was WM5 only. This would have been hugely more useful to so many more people if it were web or Java based 
indeed :|
Probably cause it would take alot more work. I'm sure the gfx are going to be quite good, but all you can do is sit in a station.
I for one cannot wait. Since I have my pda with me everywhere and I always forget to change skills this is going to be a life saver.
I can also now play eve on the toilet instead of jawbreaker :)
24,000 people suddenly develop serious cases of haemorroids in the workplace. Suppose it's better than "Doom turned my little boy into a murderer!"
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:36:00 -
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Is there anything this client requires that can not be solved in a mobile webbrowser such as Opera Mini ? It seems quite a waste having to buy a Windows Mobile phone to do something that can be easily achived using a regular webbrowser.
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George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
Is there anything this client requires that can not be solved in a mobile webbrowser such as Opera Mini ? It seems quite a waste having to buy a Windows Mobile phone to do something that can be easily achived using a regular webbrowser.
allowing to change skills or buy/sell stuff via a webbrowser makes the system prone to automation. For a halfway decent programmer this would be the birth of the skillque extraordinaire.
To avoid this a proprietary programm (like the EVE PC client) is needed.
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kbullet
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:32:00 -
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cool :D when is this going to be avail? damn hopefully my universal will have enought juice to run this baby
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: George Petsch
allowing to change skills or buy/sell stuff via a webbrowser makes the system prone to automation. For a halfway decent programmer this would be the birth of the skillque extraordinaire.
To avoid this a proprietary programm (like the EVE PC client) is needed.
A proprietary program is even more prone to macro use, which is quite easy to do on a Windows-based system (even on Windows Mobile). So that is not the reason.
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |
SuHwak
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Posted - 2006.05.15 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
Originally by: George Petsch
allowing to change skills or buy/sell stuff via a webbrowser makes the system prone to automation. For a halfway decent programmer this would be the birth of the skillque extraordinaire.
To avoid this a proprietary programm (like the EVE PC client) is needed.
A proprietary program is even more prone to macro use, which is quite easy to do on a Windows-based system (even on Windows Mobile). So that is not the reason.
But that would be very unpractical as you probably want to use your PDA for other stuff as well. With that it will likely use a bit of batt to keep the client running, toghether with either a BT or WIFI connection, so for macrominers this mobile solution is a lot less interesting then for geniune users.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 13:58:00 -
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How exactly would you be able to macro mine in either client solution? Only the full eve client will allow you to undock, you know...
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |
George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
How exactly would you be able to macro mine in either client solution? Only the full eve client will allow you to undock, you know...
Not macromine... I was talking about changing skills via a 3rd party program...
Besides that, writing a little tool to respond to a webservice designed for the task is still much easier than write a skillchange macro for a proprietary client...
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: George Petsch
Besides that, writing a little tool to respond to a webservice designed for the task is still much easier than write a skillchange macro for a proprietary client...
And why would you run a macro to change skills? So you can change skills 10 times per second? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
I don't see why CCP would want to lock out 99% of the EVE players from using this feature, while 99% would be able to use it if they actually made it available using a webbrowser. If they are afraid of macros, they can restrict the webclients to only changing skills and not being able to check the market.
CCP: What is the rationale behind this client? Make more money? Make it easier for users that are on vacation to check their skill training?
If the rationale is to make more money, then sure, a propriatary client makes more sense (for the 100 users that might actually use it on a Windows Mobile phone).
If the rationale is to make it easier to do offline stuff like changing skills, then use a webbrowser for it. Anything else makes very little sense.
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |
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SuHwak
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: SuHwak on 15/05/2006 14:26:37
Edited by: SuHwak on 15/05/2006 14:25:12
Edited by: SuHwak on 15/05/2006 14:23:13
Originally by: Mitchman
Originally by: George Petsch
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And why would you run a macro to change skills? So you can change skills 10 times per second? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
I don't see why CCP would want to lock out 99% of the EVE players from using this feature, while 99% would be able to use it if they actually made it available using a webbrowser. If they are afraid of macros, they can restrict the webclients to only changing skills and not being able to check the market.
CCP: What is the rationale behind this client? Make more money? Make it easier for users that are on vacation to check their skill training?
If the rationale is to make more money, then sure, a propriatary client makes more sense (for the 100 users that might actually use it on a Windows Mobile phone).
If the rationale is to make it easier to do offline stuff like changing skills, then use a webbrowser for it. Anything else makes very little sense.
Probably both...
And maybe because its easier to program for them this way. And I think you underestimate how many ppl have M/PDA's with windows running on it rather then any other.
And then again, Kieron doesn't even know if its going to be developed for other os's/platforms.
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George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
Originally by: George Petsch
Besides that, writing a little tool to respond to a webservice designed for the task is still much easier than write a skillchange macro for a proprietary client...
And why would you run a macro to change skills?
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Because you could make a HUGE skillqueue to train a char on a second account, sell it for a few billion isk a few weeks/month later without even loggin into it for a second and repeat.
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Majorie Soepkip
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Posted - 2006.05.15 15:13:00 -
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Eve runs pretty smooth and already for a year now on my laptop (read, mobile device).
this is old news
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Equin
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Posted - 2006.05.15 15:51:00 -
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Still hoping to see a sshot
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2006.05.15 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Indeed it might - but what happened to no out of game access coz you loose the "emmersive" feeling?
Is this out of game? I think so, I can't for the life of me imagine my MDA3 taking me into combat.
With this and the VoIP implementation, it looks just as things are pretty much perfect, you are loosing your way...
Darwin 4tw
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.05.15 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 15/05/2006 16:23:47
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Any chance you will extend that.
I work for Symbian and it seems a shame to rule out the operator that has 80% of the smartphone market just for the sake of it.
Microsoft has almost 0 footprint in that market.
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Demitri Klashnikov
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Demitri Klashnikov on 15/05/2006 17:50:52
Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 15/05/2006 16:23:47
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Any chance you will extend that.
I work for Symbian and it seems a shame to rule out the operator that has 80% of the smartphone market just for the sake of it.
Microsoft has almost 0 footprint in that market.
Well MS Mob, will be a bit bigger after this, hehehe
At least 1 more customer :)
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Nightly
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Posted - 2006.05.15 22:49:00 -
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I strongly suspect they mean to offer it as an addition to the subscription - otherwise, yes, they would have just plonked it on a web browser/java.
If they can charge 14.99 for a bloody magazine then I would expect eve-mobile to weigh in at about 5.99
A bun please if I guessed right
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VampireZIM
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Posted - 2006.05.15 23:31:00 -
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I hope it supports landscape mode so I can use the hidden keyboard in my PPC 6700
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Rabbitgod
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Posted - 2006.05.16 00:00:00 -
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I'm looking forward to this.
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