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PotatoHead
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Posted - 2006.05.10 14:02:00 -
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Excuse the ignorance, I don't read these forums often and did a quick 3 page search but didn't find any info on this. Is CCP making EVE playable on mobile devices? I ask this because of the comment from kieron in the E3 Devblog
"The devices we were supposed to get for the EVE Mobile demonstration got stuck in transit and won't arrive in time."
He also refers to a mobile device, a GSM phone, in addition to the servers. Is this just for the demo they're running at the show, or are they actually planning a mobile version of EVE?
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Therem Harth
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Posted - 2006.05.10 14:09:00 -
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Supposedly, a cut-down, routine things management-only version of the client for mobile devices is in the works. Maybe you would be able to chat as well, I'm not sure.
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PotatoHead
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Posted - 2006.05.10 14:10:00 -
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Cool, thanks for the info. I'd been hoping for this since the beta days. At least a web interface that would let you chat in an IRC fashion, but this is even a step better.
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space fox
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Posted - 2006.05.10 14:53:00 -
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Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner 
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.05.10 14:56:00 -
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 Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Take a wild guess... 
(Not that I know for a fact, but they did mention Windows Mobile in the dev blog)
YOU LOVE THE BLINKING
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CCP Hammer
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
It feels so Jack Bauer.
have you started torturing people because they arent doing exactly what you want yet?
oh and Does the client include chat?
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Unholy Preacher
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:12:00 -
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it not a jack bauer thread until someone says:
"SOMETHING JUST DOESNT ADD UP !"
anyways chat windows would be sooo cool for a windows mobile !
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Hydrian Alante
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Hydrian Alante on 10/05/2006 15:15:19
Will this be restricted to Windows Mobile 5.0 PDAs/Smartphones?
I use a HTC Blue Angel Device, which is sold under many different names all around the world.
This Smartphone is WiFi enabled and it would be perfect for EvE mobile. But the HTC Blue Angel is only equipped with Windows Mobile 2003 SE. 
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Aucune Ame
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:16:00 -
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booooo windows :(
i've got a Samsung i500 (PalmOS), and i'd love to just be able to even chat in EVE on it, anything else would be just gravy. i'm sick enough of windows on my computers, i don't want it on my phone too :P
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:20:00 -
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DAMNIT HAMMER, I NEED THAT DATA NOW!
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:22:00 -
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I'd prefer a Python or Java based client because it would be independent of the OS used on the mobile device.
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:27:00 -
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It's much more difficult to port code to PalmOS than it is to Windows. At least Visual Studio can cut-and-paste code from a Windows .NET app to a WindowsCE .NET app. So yeah, it's a shame, but an understandable one to be honest.
Jack Bauer... I bet Oveur is walking around with a bluetooth headset now. *cringe* But yeah, I advise you to take hostages from the Sony stand, looking at the size of the place on the floorplan you wouldn't be found for days!
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 10/05/2006 15:32:32
Originally by: Tachy
I'd prefer a Python or Java based client because it would be independent of the OS used on the mobile device.
Yeah, it would run equally badly on everything 
I'd be less interested in running eve (or anything else  ) on a PDA or hyperexpensive phone, and more interested in having a light client that can run through port 80 so as to play eve on crap computers on crippled networks.
Edit: Almost forgot, Palm OS FTW!
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Neslo
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
It feels so Jack Bauer.
"There's no time!"
From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Thalamus
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:31:00 -
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Anyone used windows mobile for the PSP?
I just found it on google and wonder wether it would work and now also wonder if it does work, will the eve windows mobile client work on it :D
that would be great if it does :)
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space fox
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
What am I meant to do now, work? 
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Redundancy
DAMNIT HAMMER, I NEED THAT DATA NOW!
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.10 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Edited by: Crumplecorn on 10/05/2006 15:32:32
Originally by: Tachy
I'd prefer a Python or Java based client because it would be independent of the OS used on the mobile device.
Yeah, it would run equally badly on everything
I'd be less interested in running eve (or anything else ) on a PDA or hyperexpensive phone, and more interested in having a light client that can run through port 80 so as to play eve on crap computers on crippled networks.
Edit: Almost forgot, Palm OS FTW!
I think you can change the port to 80 in the prefs.ini. There was an explanation how to do this i nthe workaround forum somewhere.
Just don't get caught by your admin/boss/whatever who prevents you from using port 26000 for connecting.
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.05.10 16:13:00 -
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any chance of pvping?
pirating at the bus stop sounds like fun.. 
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Sig removed BEFORE the mods got to it bahaha -mazzilliu
But we can play with it after. ~kieron
that should be considered an exploit >[ -mazzilliu
Exploit, what explot  - Xorus |
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.10 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
kieron
Community Manager,
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.05.10 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: MysticNZ on 10/05/2006 17:29:51
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
You guys rock... seriously, how the hell am I going to work now? I'll be chat whoring all day 
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.10 17:48:00 -
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can u make eve-movibile on my psp? make it in a web browser?
or make it so that i can run it on my psp as a home brew from my flash memmory?
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Jai Cee
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Posted - 2006.05.10 19:49:00 -
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Eve mobile really got me excited until I found it was WM5 only. This would have been hugely more useful to so many more people if it were web or Java based
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Waragha
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Posted - 2006.05.10 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jai Cee
Eve mobile really got me excited until I found it was WM5 only. This would have been hugely more useful to so many more people if it were web or Java based
indeed :|
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.05.10 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Waragha
Originally by: Jai Cee
Eve mobile really got me excited until I found it was WM5 only. This would have been hugely more useful to so many more people if it were web or Java based
indeed :|
Probably cause it would take alot more work. I'm sure the gfx are going to be quite good, but all you can do is sit in a station.
I for one cannot wait. Since I have my pda with me everywhere and I always forget to change skills this is going to be a life saver.
I can also now play eve on the toilet instead of jawbreaker :)
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Splagada
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Posted - 2006.05.10 20:07:00 -
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Working at CCP must be hell for managers
Manager says "hey Kieron what are you doing again!!! you're supposed to work you're playing!!!"
Kieron "i'm 'Testing' sir!"
have any use for a material physics phd? :p *applies*
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400x90 ok?
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Nightly
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Posted - 2006.05.14 07:48:00 -
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Is there any further news on when this might be released. Luckily I have a WM5 device with 3G and would love to give it a go
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2006.05.14 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Redundancy
DAMNIT HAMMER, I NEED THAT DATA NOW!
LOL Classic
"If you dont give me the data, hundreds of thousands of people will DIE"
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Equin
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Posted - 2006.05.14 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
Show us the promised pictures :o
Will this work with GPRS aswell? Or is there to much data send across?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.14 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Another fellow being spreading the word about Jack Bauer. It warms my heart.
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SuHwak
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Posted - 2006.05.14 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: SuHwak on 14/05/2006 08:27:07
Ah, finally an official reply. I had posted a similer thread here:
Clicky
So, hit me with those picture already!!
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Xade
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Posted - 2006.05.14 09:00:00 -
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if you want a way to do things in eve while on the move try www.desktopmobiles.com. its a java based VNC client for your mobile phone. I have used this with my nokia N70 mobile phone while i have been away for the last couple of months and it has worked great for changing skills and doing some research and market stuff.
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JForce
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Posted - 2006.05.15 01:48:00 -
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Are there any plans to port to any other mobile os?
My smartphone is coming to the end of its life, and I'd planned to get the next model, the Sony Ericsson P990. However it runs Symbian3.0, not Windows mobile.
If you tell me that there are NO plans within the next 2 years or so to port to Symbian, I'll get a Windows mobile phone/pda.
If you tell me you will/probably will then I'll get the SE.
Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
JForce
The Arrow Project
N.W.A Reprezent
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.05.15 02:05:00 -
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I don't suppose there's any chance of being able to use this on PsP?
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JForce
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Posted - 2006.05.15 02:25:00 -
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Read the rest of the thread, someone mentions a Windows Mobile5.0 version for PSP out there somewhere....I imagine that would allow you to do it
JForce
The Arrow Project
N.W.A Reprezent
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Active1313
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Posted - 2006.05.15 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Active1313 on 15/05/2006 02:56:01
Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
hmmm MDA you say, that alleviates some of my concerns from earlier wehen I read that "Smartphones" wouldn't be supported and that I may be forced to do something drastic but now thanks to this news I can just sit back and wait knowing that "Soon" I can play Eve some facet of Eve on the go in a more expected sort of way and not the Ubernerdy way I play on the go currently...The way real nerds do it you ask? Phone as a modem is how, best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. I can manage to look all Chloe O'Brien sitting anywhere I have cell coverage basically (EVDO Technically) connect my USB cable and dial-up the Intarwebs and then proceed to play Eve across a 230.4K "Dial-up" connection....oh and the even better thing about it...I dont pay extra for data services
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Xandyr Kayn
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Posted - 2006.05.15 03:38:00 -
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Jack Bauer is the new Chuck Norris!!!
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iqplayer
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Posted - 2006.05.15 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Active1313
....connect my USB cable and dial-up...
You had me right up till here :D USB is so yesterday - bluetooth 4tw :D That way, my phone can still be in my pocket while I play Eve, and noone has to know my little (nerdy) secret ;)
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Bob Niac
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Posted - 2006.05.15 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117
can u make eve-movibile on my psp? make it in a web browser?
or make it so that i can run it on my psp as a home brew from my flash memmory?
OMG give the man a beer!
Finally a use for my PSP... i would LOVE this. UMDs are kinda cheap to make now... imagine VOICE CHAT (1 way via the new infrastructure) with your corp ... Sell orders ... Buy orders.. Completeing agent offers... the possibilities are endless!
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George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
kieron, you mentioned WindowsMobile5, any chances it's going to run on WindowsMobile2003 SE too?
- GP
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DDaisy
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Posted - 2006.05.15 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: MysticNZ
Originally by: Waragha
Originally by: Jai Cee
Eve mobile really got me excited until I found it was WM5 only. This would have been hugely more useful to so many more people if it were web or Java based
indeed :|
Probably cause it would take alot more work. I'm sure the gfx are going to be quite good, but all you can do is sit in a station.
I for one cannot wait. Since I have my pda with me everywhere and I always forget to change skills this is going to be a life saver.
I can also now play eve on the toilet instead of jawbreaker :)
24,000 people suddenly develop serious cases of haemorroids in the workplace. Suppose it's better than "Doom turned my little boy into a murderer!"
DD
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:36:00 -
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Is there anything this client requires that can not be solved in a mobile webbrowser such as Opera Mini ? It seems quite a waste having to buy a Windows Mobile phone to do something that can be easily achived using a regular webbrowser.
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George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
Is there anything this client requires that can not be solved in a mobile webbrowser such as Opera Mini ? It seems quite a waste having to buy a Windows Mobile phone to do something that can be easily achived using a regular webbrowser.
allowing to change skills or buy/sell stuff via a webbrowser makes the system prone to automation. For a halfway decent programmer this would be the birth of the skillque extraordinaire.
To avoid this a proprietary programm (like the EVE PC client) is needed.
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kbullet
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:32:00 -
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cool :D when is this going to be avail? damn hopefully my universal will have enought juice to run this baby
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: George Petsch
allowing to change skills or buy/sell stuff via a webbrowser makes the system prone to automation. For a halfway decent programmer this would be the birth of the skillque extraordinaire.
To avoid this a proprietary programm (like the EVE PC client) is needed.
A proprietary program is even more prone to macro use, which is quite easy to do on a Windows-based system (even on Windows Mobile). So that is not the reason.
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |
SuHwak
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Posted - 2006.05.15 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
Originally by: George Petsch
allowing to change skills or buy/sell stuff via a webbrowser makes the system prone to automation. For a halfway decent programmer this would be the birth of the skillque extraordinaire.
To avoid this a proprietary programm (like the EVE PC client) is needed.
A proprietary program is even more prone to macro use, which is quite easy to do on a Windows-based system (even on Windows Mobile). So that is not the reason.
But that would be very unpractical as you probably want to use your PDA for other stuff as well. With that it will likely use a bit of batt to keep the client running, toghether with either a BT or WIFI connection, so for macrominers this mobile solution is a lot less interesting then for geniune users.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 13:58:00 -
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How exactly would you be able to macro mine in either client solution? Only the full eve client will allow you to undock, you know...
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |
George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
How exactly would you be able to macro mine in either client solution? Only the full eve client will allow you to undock, you know...
Not macromine... I was talking about changing skills via a 3rd party program...
Besides that, writing a little tool to respond to a webservice designed for the task is still much easier than write a skillchange macro for a proprietary client...
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: George Petsch
Besides that, writing a little tool to respond to a webservice designed for the task is still much easier than write a skillchange macro for a proprietary client...
And why would you run a macro to change skills? So you can change skills 10 times per second? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
I don't see why CCP would want to lock out 99% of the EVE players from using this feature, while 99% would be able to use it if they actually made it available using a webbrowser. If they are afraid of macros, they can restrict the webclients to only changing skills and not being able to check the market.
CCP: What is the rationale behind this client? Make more money? Make it easier for users that are on vacation to check their skill training?
If the rationale is to make more money, then sure, a propriatary client makes more sense (for the 100 users that might actually use it on a Windows Mobile phone).
If the rationale is to make it easier to do offline stuff like changing skills, then use a webbrowser for it. Anything else makes very little sense.
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |
SuHwak
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: SuHwak on 15/05/2006 14:26:37
Edited by: SuHwak on 15/05/2006 14:25:12
Edited by: SuHwak on 15/05/2006 14:23:13
Originally by: Mitchman
Originally by: George Petsch
(...)
And why would you run a macro to change skills? So you can change skills 10 times per second? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
I don't see why CCP would want to lock out 99% of the EVE players from using this feature, while 99% would be able to use it if they actually made it available using a webbrowser. If they are afraid of macros, they can restrict the webclients to only changing skills and not being able to check the market.
CCP: What is the rationale behind this client? Make more money? Make it easier for users that are on vacation to check their skill training?
If the rationale is to make more money, then sure, a propriatary client makes more sense (for the 100 users that might actually use it on a Windows Mobile phone).
If the rationale is to make it easier to do offline stuff like changing skills, then use a webbrowser for it. Anything else makes very little sense.
Probably both...
And maybe because its easier to program for them this way. And I think you underestimate how many ppl have M/PDA's with windows running on it rather then any other.
And then again, Kieron doesn't even know if its going to be developed for other os's/platforms.
Offtopic:
Originally by: EvE Forums
No Thread with this ID
This thread does not exist.
FTL!
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George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.05.15 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchman
Originally by: George Petsch
Besides that, writing a little tool to respond to a webservice designed for the task is still much easier than write a skillchange macro for a proprietary client...
And why would you run a macro to change skills?
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Because you could make a HUGE skillqueue to train a char on a second account, sell it for a few billion isk a few weeks/month later without even loggin into it for a second and repeat.
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Majorie Soepkip
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Posted - 2006.05.15 15:13:00 -
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Eve runs pretty smooth and already for a year now on my laptop (read, mobile device).
this is old news
^_^
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Equin
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Posted - 2006.05.15 15:51:00 -
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Still hoping to see a sshot
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2006.05.15 15:59:00 -
[55]
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Indeed it might - but what happened to no out of game access coz you loose the "emmersive" feeling?
Is this out of game? I think so, I can't for the life of me imagine my MDA3 taking me into combat.
With this and the VoIP implementation, it looks just as things are pretty much perfect, you are loosing your way...
Darwin 4tw
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.05.15 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 15/05/2006 16:23:47
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Any chance you will extend that.
I work for Symbian and it seems a shame to rule out the operator that has 80% of the smartphone market just for the sake of it.
Microsoft has almost 0 footprint in that market.
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Demitri Klashnikov
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Demitri Klashnikov on 15/05/2006 17:50:52
Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 15/05/2006 16:23:47
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Any chance you will extend that.
I work for Symbian and it seems a shame to rule out the operator that has 80% of the smartphone market just for the sake of it.
Microsoft has almost 0 footprint in that market.
Well MS Mob, will be a bit bigger after this, hehehe
At least 1 more customer :)
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Nightly
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Posted - 2006.05.15 22:49:00 -
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I strongly suspect they mean to offer it as an addition to the subscription - otherwise, yes, they would have just plonked it on a web browser/java.
If they can charge 14.99 for a bloody magazine then I would expect eve-mobile to weigh in at about 5.99
A bun please if I guessed right
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VampireZIM
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Posted - 2006.05.15 23:31:00 -
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I hope it supports landscape mode so I can use the hidden keyboard in my PPC 6700
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Rabbitgod
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Posted - 2006.05.16 00:00:00 -
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I'm looking forward to this.
How I mine 4 biomass?!!11one1eleven |
JForce
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Posted - 2006.05.16 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: JForce
Are there any plans to port to any other mobile os?
My smartphone is coming to the end of its life, and I'd planned to get the next model, the Sony Ericsson P990. However it runs Symbian3.0, not Windows mobile.
If you tell me that there are NO plans within the next 2 years or so to port to Symbian, I'll get a Windows mobile phone/pda.
If you tell me you will/probably will then I'll get the SE.
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JForce
The Arrow Project
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2006.05.16 09:46:00 -
[62]
If this goes live then there is NO reason not to offer another out of game access system, such as a web system to allow changing skills or market actions.
By introducing this they will (if it goes public) already of lost the "total emmersion" feeling they so proudly hold up.
Darwin 4tw
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Sharcy
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Posted - 2006.05.17 07:59:00 -
[63]
Originally by: George Petsch
kieron, you mentioned WindowsMobile5, any chances it's going to run on WindowsMobile2003 SE too?
kieron, I'd like to know this as well...
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 16:41:00 -
[64]
I just came from a presentation of this thing by the programmers. For those of you that don't know this already the EVE mobile client is a project at Reykjavfk University. The guys programming the mobile client were showcasing their work today as a part of the school project.
Let me begin by saying the client looks damn good today, I saw it at the first public showing last year and it has come a long way since then. It now supports character sheet, wallet, market and evemail. No undocking or chat and no escrow yet.
It runs on Windows Mobile 5 and since CCP have a deal with Microsoft I seriously doubt it will be made available for other OS. The devices shown today were a Dell PDA with 640*480 resolution and a phone with 320*240 resolution. It supports landscape view and does so pretty smoothly, switching viewmodes is fast and the data tables resize the columns in relation to data being displayed.
CCP's representative said it would be some time before the client would be officially released. Even though the project as a whole belongs to CCP they will need to hire staff to finish it because the guys working on it so far have all decided to stay in school rather than take up CCP's offer of hiring them. On top of that there are considrations regarding the additional load this could cause on the game server. This is also one of the resons why a web based interface is out of the question, the server needs to be able to support 27.000 players and any load that cuts that number would be counterproductive to say the least. Eve Mobile is built to minimize data transfer and does so admirably, when you open the market for an example the server isn't queried untill you have browsed throught the interface to the category you want displayed.
The client looks and feels like an extension of EVE and this is a big issue with CCP since, as previsouly stated, they feel immersion is an important factor. I don't think there will be any screenshots or official CCP info at this time because the project is in the process of being moved over to them and is a long way from being released at the moment. CCP are way more into the project now than last year though so in my oppinion they will see this through and release it as soon as possible, if only for the bragging rights of being the first MMO with a handheld client.
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Ty'derian
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Posted - 2006.05.17 17:43:00 -
[65]
Hey CCP : )
can we get a beta client for beta testing ? at the moment i must connect over my mda to the internet to get access to eve via my notebook, thats not very comfortable for only reading mails and check customer/delivery status.
pls share the beta client with us ^^
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Aknon
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Posted - 2006.05.17 18:18:00 -
[66]
Just a little thouht on the "use Java and it will solve all problems" issue.
It might sound great att starters, then you look in to it and find that almost all phones with Java support does it a little bit different and you'll have to make diffrent Java dists of the application for each mobile phone supported and end up with a lot more work than you expected.
And then the userbase starts having the "I need support for phone model" thing......
*Ghaaaa*
that is my 0.02 sek...
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CEO - FochGroup
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Quutar
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Posted - 2006.05.18 19:17:00 -
[67]
i have a crappy phone... and will wait until this is released... beta or pay... to buy a new one. my wife got a palm os smart phone... but i care not about its smart features...
i guess i can swap her skills on my phone if she wants me to when it comes out (yes... she plays... geeks that play togethor, stay togethor)
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Koraz Zorillian
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Posted - 2006.05.22 18:02:00 -
[68]
I am so pumped about this! I use a t-mobile MDA running full wm5 - how awesome would it be to control certain aspects of eve from a mobile phone?
I just hope it works over GPRS to some extent, now that would rock.
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2006.05.22 18:30:00 -
[69]
Every time I see this thread I still get this twinge of sorrow that it isn't abotu what I thought it was originally...
Some sort of eve motor vehicle to be unveiled at e3 to promo the game. Maybe some sports car that looked like a rifter.
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Christina Knight
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Posted - 2006.05.25 11:21:00 -
[70]
The only other problem is cost of data tranfer over mobile phones. Im looking at two pound 50 pence per 1mb on vodafone which would get very expensive connecting to the eve server and downloading the information
I cant see it being very viable unless the prices come down for gprs data tranfer. Or am i wrong and it doesnt work like that.
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GODofHELL
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Posted - 2006.05.25 11:28:00 -
[71]
you are all noobs .. have been playing eve on my cell phone for over a year now..
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=205592
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chingon
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Posted - 2006.05.25 11:30:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Xade
if you want a way to do things in eve while on the move try www.desktopmobiles.com. its a java based VNC client for your mobile phone. I have used this with my nokia N70 mobile phone while i have been away for the last couple of months and it has worked great for changing skills and doing some research and market stuff.
I've tried that but never been able to make it work with my nokia 6680
Make a symbian version too CCP!! I see you looking for a windows mobile programmer,well hire me to do that symbian version
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Yoko Milan
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:10:00 -
[73]
Originally by: chingon
Originally by: Xade
if you want a way to do things in eve while on the move try www.desktopmobiles.com. its a java based VNC client for your mobile phone. I have used this with my nokia N70 mobile phone while i have been away for the last couple of months and it has worked great for changing skills and doing some research and market stuff.
I've tried that but never been able to make it work with my nokia 6680
Make a symbian version too CCP!! I see you looking for a windows mobile programmer,well hire me to do that symbian version
I can see haow this would work great if you have an always on connection. Too bad I have dialup. This is one of the things I'm really hoping they'll implement soon in the game. I would be just happy to have the skill changing ability itself for now. The other stuff can come later.
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chingon
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Posted - 2006.05.25 16:16:00 -
[74]
well i just tried it again,and now it seems to work,at least the desktop is working,i can open all programs and stuff but when i open up eve via my taskbar i get a blackout Does it have to run in windowed or fullscreen mode to work best?
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project 2571
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:03:00 -
[75]
not sure but i have had EVE running on my PSP. using PortableVNC and TightVNC. great stuff.
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:09:00 -
[76]
Sweet news!
One question though, will this mobile client run on regular Windows PCs too? Because, for example, I'd like to change a skill from work, but our PCs there don't have graphics cards that want to run EVE.
Are they compatible?
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Chronus26
Gallente
Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:17:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Sweet news!
One question though, will this mobile client run on regular Windows PCs too? Because, for example, I'd like to change a skill from work, but our PCs there don't have graphics cards that want to run EVE.
Are they compatible?
I saw Palm Emulators when I was lookin into programing for the Palm a while back, so I'd imagine there would be simmilar things out there for runing Windows Mobile software.
TBH if we ever see Eve mobile released, I gess I'll be buying a PocketPC... 
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Grilk
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Posted - 2006.12.02 20:14:00 -
[78]
So, it's been over 6 mos, where is a beta or a released product? I got one of these Cingular 8525s that has some high speed data transfer that would be great for it. I get that you are busy, or you have chosen not to release it, or some other issue but, give us some info, please.
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denzilmason
Gallente
Bob The Builder
Breidablik
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Posted - 2006.12.24 04:08:00 -
[79]
Any more info??
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Ammasanni
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:38:00 -
[80]
OK, 11 months since first mention of mobile client for Eve, and after it no more news.
Someone know if this "project" died ? Or if it still in developement ?
Ps. Yes i'm a necro poster :p
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ice wibble
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:39:00 -
[81]
Yep news, give us some news...
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CCP Hammer
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:50:00 -
[82]
The project was in limbo for a while due to the fact the developers on the project had moved on to other things. Some of the guys working on it were in their final year of university and were working on it as part of their final projects. They graduated before the product was finished. There is now a new team working on the project who aren't students.
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Linerra Tedora
Amarr
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:52:00 -
[83]
nice.. after seing the fanfest videos where it was said that noone was working on it currently, i had given up hope for that... *SS*
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RiotRick
Black-Sun
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.04.04 12:31:00 -
[84]
Edited by: RiotRick on 04/04/2007 12:27:55
This thread is worthless without pictures 
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Boci
The Legion.
Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.04.04 12:51:00 -
[85]
Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Jack Bauer
Chloe, open up a socket for me and send the data to my PDA.
Halldor installed the EVE Mobile client on my MDA (GSM/cell with WinMobile5) and it looks sharp. Waiting for a mirror of my work and play accounts so I can demo with real information, not a newbie character on a demo account. Unfortunately, no port over to TQ yet, so the changes made on EVE Mobile won't propagate to TQ, but it looks damn cool!
I'll try to get some pictures and upload them. Might have to bribe Alli to show me how to upload the images to the home site.
ZOMG I have an MDA too...please please please make this work soon! @_@
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.05 05:35:00 -
[86]
Dammit. I was holding out changing phones until this came out. (I work for a US GSM carrier and get phones cheap cheap cheap, but only 1 phone a year)
I just ordered a new phone today, and it isn't Windows Mobile...and EVE Mobile is the ONLY reason I was going to get a Windows Mobile equipped phone.
Damn and blast.
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Treenara Mazouk
Gallente
TAKAGI Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.27 18:44:00 -
[87]
Anyone have any news on this?
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Resila
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Posted - 2007.06.27 20:30:00 -
[88]
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: space fox
Anyone know if this is for windows mobile or for tha palm OS?
Palm TX owner
Currently just Windows Mobile. Let me tell you, it's really cool to check your evemail, market orders and skill training from a PDA. It feels so Jack Bauer.
Pfft.. Gief java version, and I might even pay for it :D I already spend all my time to/from work browsing eve-o/corp/alliance forums, might as well play if I had the chance
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Ritzenhoff
Gallente
The Pink Hippo Riding Club
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:00:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Ritzenhoff on 27/06/2007 22:01:18
I happen to have done plenty of mobile application development. Just FYI, some approximate numbers:
J2ME (Java 2 Micro Edition) is on approx 90% of mobile phones
Symbian phones are 10-15% of the European market (and also run J2ME if you are wondering why we add up to over 100% already)
Windows Mobile is under 5%
Palm OS is pretty much dead in the water (sorry Palm fans, but it's true, I loved my Palm but Symbian does it all better)
And in the US there is also BREW which is on something like 30% of the phones over there but is almost non-existent in Europe
It doesn't make any impact whether the phone is GSM or CDMA based, btw.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:10:00 -
[90]
This has to be asked...will it work on Windows 95?
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jongalt
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Posted - 2007.06.27 23:48:00 -
[91]
am i to understand that eve mobile will NOT be compatible with the Apple iPhone...?
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Dimionia
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:39:00 -
[92]
Originally by: jongalt
am i to understand that eve mobile will NOT be compatible with the Apple iPhone...?
doubt it, considering that iPhone is pretty limited in functionality: a her-uuuge 700Mb OS, no copy and paste function, no A2DP support, Office document reading but no editing, no MMS, no voice dialing and no video recording facility. Oh, and you can't use any music as a ringtone - not even plain MP3's!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/iphone-facts-from-the-first-reviews
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Kaygrith
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:26:00 -
[93]
CCP any update on this? words anre not anough to describe how looking forward to this. Do hope its java tho, then could be put on nearly everything, hell even digital photo frames can run java
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brinelan
Caldari
Victory Not Vengeance
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.07.12 22:15:00 -
[94]
Originally by: jongalt
am i to understand that eve mobile will NOT be compatible with the Apple iPhone...?
There is also that no 3rd party apps thing (Aside from some stupid safari web apps)
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Amarr
The Plebians
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Posted - 2007.07.12 22:15:00 -
[95]
Originally by: chingon
well i just tried it again,and now it seems to work,at least the desktop is working,i can open all programs and stuff but when i open up eve via my taskbar i get a blackout Does it have to run in windowed or fullscreen mode to work best?
If i remeber rightly, you need to set the server end to 'poll the desktop for changes' instead of something to do with when windows tells it its changed...
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Sekket
Caldari
White-Noise
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.12 22:49:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Sekket on 12/07/2007 22:49:32
Why not just make a web portal where you can do all these things? Then people can take care of stuff at work or on the go with their iPhone or other mobile web device.
Doing windows mobile only reaches a small amount of customers.
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Kaygrith
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:01:00 -
[97]
yeah i would agree with that make the web portal do it argument, but within hours there would be a script for char farmers.
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midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:43:00 -
[98]
Edited by: midge Mo''yb on 17/07/2007 10:43:45
Hopefully this hasnt been shelved
My new toy :D
i do want the mobile 6 model though :((
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Beor0d
Congregatio
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:50:00 -
[99]
My new one :)
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch.htm
Any news regarding the mobile client?
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Sertan Deras
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:07:00 -
[100]
You know, a web interface to the market, skill training, eve mail and some other basic functions, accessed via my-eve, would have done the same thing....and allowed all of us WITHOUT Windows Mobile devices to use it as well. Changing skills from my PSP while watching TV would have been awesome. Or from my wifes phone while we are out eating.
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Beor0d
Congregatio
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:19:00 -
[101]
Can't you use VPN things on your PSP?
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:00:00 -
[102]
On a corp meeting you suddenly pick up your mobile and start fiddling with it. The others ofc frown at you. Then you explain: - Why, I have to start Large Beam Laser Specialization...
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Dimionia
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:05:00 -
[103]
Originally by: midge Mo'yb
Edited by: midge Mo''yb on 17/07/2007 10:43:45
Hopefully this hasnt been shelved
My new toy :D
i do want the mobile 6 model though :((
I thought that one came out with WM6 only 
anyway, keep an eye on this site, people post cooked up ROMs there all the time: XDA-Developers (also the official ones from HTC self and T-Mobile, Dopod, etc.).
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HardEyes
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Posted - 2007.09.07 23:34:00 -
[104]
Any news on "Eve Mobile"?
Btw. if you disclose an api for connecting to the (mobile) eve server, fans have the chance to implement a mobile client for eve. I would prefer a J2ME client due portability. A Java client for Trading, Eve-Mail and Skill-Training should be easy to implement for nearly all actual mobiles.
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.07 23:47:00 -
[105]
the original mobile project was started by some computer science students at the university of reykjavik, they have long since graduated and moved on.
I believe CCP got the code off them, and its been a side project on the to do list since :)
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Pooka
Caldari
United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.09.07 23:51:00 -
[106]
Dead just like the Linux and MAC abilities.
PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT
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