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Verone Veto Corp 123	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:45:00 - [1] - Quote While it's awesome to see them return, something seems off about them. They look great in terms of how they respond to the activation of MWDs and afterburners, and how they respond when your ship changes direction, but they just seem off with the rest of Eve's graphics. If anything, they seem too smooth, kind of like the original version of Homeworld, rather than being rough around the edges as if your thrusters are exhausting vapour rather than giving a smooth, even trail. Don't get me wrong, they look awesome, but they just seem too smooth and uniform, rather than looking like a set of contrails. Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM
Dalloway Jones Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:47:00 - [2] - Quote I was wondering when the first complaint would be. Way faster than I imagined so thanks for that.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 170	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:47:00 - [3] - Quote Agreed.
Morgan North The Wild Bunch Electus Matari 2	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:49:00 - [4] - Quote Maybe they just need to have a bit of the heat-effect applied around their edges to make them look like heated regions of waste.
Oberine Noriepa 189	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:51:00 - [5] - Quote This version of the effect probably isn't final at all. I suspect that the final version will resemble the effect in the login screen.
who shat themselves Hedion University Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:55:00 - [6] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOoCgPcoPJQ&feature=player_embedded they're fine quit being baddies
Crazy KSK Tsunami Cartel Dark Solar Empire 10	Posted - 2011.11.14 18:57:00 - [7] - Quote yep they indeed look odd they should just be continuation of the normal engine effect
Jodis Talvanen State War Academy Caldari State 77	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:14:00 - [8] - Quote They do indeed look to too much of a light saber... If it can be toned down a bit...
Morgan North The Wild Bunch Electus Matari 2	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:16:00 - [9] - Quote in time, for now they do look awesome already :D
Verone Veto Corp 123	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:21:00 - [10] - Quote Dalloway Jones wrote: I was wondering when the first complaint would be. Way faster than I imagined so thanks for that. Obviously you're a troll, and didn't read my post correctly. Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM

Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 72	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:28:00 - [11] - Quote I never thought of the Homeworld graphics as superheated gas exhaust, rather a lingering effect on space from some micro warp type effect Heat shimmer sounds excellent if it can be applied. Another hour or so before I can judge for myself.
Oberine Noriepa 190	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:29:00 - [12] - Quote Heat shimmer is already present on the thrusters of ships that have received their V3 treatment. It's pretty nice! It would be cool to see that kind of effect on the trails themselves, but I don't think it's necessary.
Vincent Gaines Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi 63	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:36:00 - [13] - Quote maybe a little rougher around the edges instead of smooth tubes?
Daedalus Arcova Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD. 99	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:44:00 - [14] - Quote Superheated gases in a vacuum don't behave anything like the engine trails on Sisi. They might look better if they expanded and dispersed as they fade, instead of being so perfectly straight. Also, why do they only appear at sub-warp speeds? It would make more sense for them to appear only in warp than only in sub-warp. Personally, I'd like the option to only have them on while warping, and not the rest of the time.
Valeo Galaem New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit Sentient World Observation and Response Directive 18	Posted - 2011.11.14 19:51:00 - [15] - Quote If they were intending to emulate the Homeworld style engine trail, there's an issue. HW was made to have cell shaded style graphics which don't fit with Eve's graphics at all. Something needs to be added to make it slightly less uniform / add a little texture.
Komodo Askold Rare Earth Elements LLC Order of the Void 15	Posted - 2011.11.14 20:58:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah, they seem a not definitive solution. I expect them to be asymetrical, according to the ships' racial thruster styles, and with particles. But give time for the developers.
Aquila Draco 83	Posted - 2011.11.14 21:10:00 - [17] - Quote can we get MISSILE TRAILS??? please???
Sirius Cassiopeiae Perkone Caldari State 43	Posted - 2011.11.14 21:31:00 - [18] - Quote Aquila Draco wrote: can we get MISSILE TRAILS??? please??? this one could be grey... like smoke that left after them... I would LOVE it... Can we get missile trails please???
Imrik86 Gypsy Kings Wiki Conglomerates 8	Posted - 2011.11.14 22:17:00 - [19] - Quote Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote: Aquila Draco wrote: can we get MISSILE TRAILS??? please??? this one could be grey... like smoke that left after them... I would LOVE it... Can we get missile trails please??? I fear that's impossible. It would equal to more lag. So... we have the old school thruster trails back. Nice. Problem is that they don't fit anymore with the more realistic graphics. OP is right. Need a little iteration on that.
Kyoko Sakoda Veto. Veto Corp 11	Posted - 2011.11.14 22:38:00 - [20] - Quote They're great in every way except that they need to be softer. That is, the light does not falloff around the widths of the trails and should do so.

Kadassh Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement 2	Posted - 2011.11.14 23:41:00 - [21] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiK7Jr6JuvI&feature=related That is a video of Nexus - Jupiter Incident gameplay.. The engine trails in this game are amazing. I think eve should take notice of these, and try and do something similiar.
Logan LaMort Black Rebel Rifter Club 1088	Posted - 2011.11.14 23:54:00 - [22] - Quote Kadassh wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiK7Jr6JuvI&feature=related That is a video of Nexus - Jupiter Incident gameplay.. The engine trails in this game are amazing. I think eve should take notice of these, and try and do something similiar. Something like that would look really good with EVE me thinks. I also hope we'll get engine trails during warp too, it's a bit jarring to go from engine trails, no engine trails and engine trails again... plus it would look extremely cool. I'm thinking though that the trails we see now are very much WIP.
Aglais Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2011.11.14 23:55:00 - [23] - Quote Engine trails are stupid, and I'm extremely glad you can turn them off in settings. They look extremely unrealistic, verging on the point of cartoony.
Blin Defrau Universal Frog 0	Posted - 2011.11.15 00:00:00 - [24] - Quote Aglais wrote: Engine trails are stupid, and I'm extremely glad you can turn them off in settings. They look extremely unrealistic, verging on the point of cartoony. So much this. (Switches trails off and does a happy dance)
Mal Sandarr InterSun Freelance 6	Posted - 2011.11.15 00:55:00 - [25] - Quote I just checked out SiSi and I like the engine trails. I would like to suggest that, along with some ideas already mentioned regarding the smoothness of them, they also need to be a little bit shorter. Apart from that, great!
Siigari Kitawa Ironclad Forge No Kings 3	Posted - 2011.11.15 01:16:00 - [26] - Quote They are kinda flat. CCP thanks for bringing back ship trails (what took you so long, seriously.) What needs to be done in my opinion to these trails is a simple bit of distortion. Don't make them super clean, make them spread out a bit over time. Add little bits of exhaust flares to the trails occasionally and make the gas or whatever it is spread out after being pushed into space. I promise it'll look better. Less flat shaded. Add volume! edit: Also, I think I figured out what it is. The trails encompass the entire engine cone. Have them just come from the tip, and scale them down considerably.
Rikanin Sexy Pirates Rage Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.15 04:13:00 - [27] - Quote I also thought something was off about these and I figured it out... They don't look like engine TRAILS they look like engine TAILS When you swing the ship around the entire trail moves as if it were a bunch of ropes. The trail shouldn't swing around it should show that a turn was made and dissipate along the path the trail was originally laid down in. Other than that I think they're okay....just the way they are now it looks like you're flying around with a bunch of white rope swinging from the back of your ship.
Corundum Punishers Without Mercy 0	Posted - 2011.11.15 05:21:00 - [28] - Quote Rikanin wrote: I also thought something was off about these and I figured it out... They don't look like engine TRAILS they look like engine TAILS When you swing the ship around the entire trail moves as if it were a bunch of ropes. The trail shouldn't swing around it should show that a turn was made and dissipate along the path the trail was originally laid down in. Other than that I think they're okay....just the way they are now it looks like you're flying around with a bunch of white rope swinging from the back of your ship. +1
Foofad Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation 10	Posted - 2011.11.15 06:14:00 - [29] - Quote Hated the old engine trails, hate the new ones. I don't understand the appeal at all. I'll be turning them off just like the good old days. What would be infinitely better is if the visual effect for the Mach disks was more transparent and larger, not to mention more diamond shaped instead of triangular.
Erik Finnegan Polytechnique Gallenteenne 13	Posted - 2011.11.15 11:20:00 - [30] - Quote Corundum wrote: Rikanin wrote: I also thought something was off about these and I figured it out... They don't look like engine TRAILS they look like engine TAILS When you swing the ship around the entire trail moves as if it were a bunch of ropes. The trail shouldn't swing around it should show that a turn was made and dissipate along the path the trail was originally laid down in. Other than that I think they're okay....just the way they are now it looks like you're flying around with a bunch of white rope swinging from the back of your ship. +1 Is that true ?! I didn't yet have a chance to go and look at them. If that is the case, then it's HORRIBLE.

Lachesis VII Pitch Black. Shadow Cartel 4	Posted - 2011.11.15 11:22:00 - [31] - Quote Not sure they're rendering properly on my Macbook Pro. 13" with the Intel 3000 graphics chip. Game looks great, but the trails are just wispy whitish lines, they don't bloom or glow like they do in the screens/vids I've been seeing elsewhere.
Kadassh Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement 3	Posted - 2011.11.15 15:55:00 - [32] - Quote Bumping because the current engine trails are bad. I will be disabling them on the release of the patch if they are released in their current state.
Erik Finnegan Polytechnique Gallenteenne 28	Posted - 2011.11.16 11:20:00 - [33] - Quote Just saw a video : they look awesome !
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 71	Posted - 2011.11.16 21:29:00 - [34] - Quote They do look wierd-- more like the engine trails from the highly-stylized alliance tournament intro graphics than something that belongs next to all these new, cinematic-quality graphics we have in EVE now. Personally I'd either revise the effect completely. I think they look really plastic-y and goofy-- they're way too opaque and I don't like the way you can see the polygons wrap around the ends of spaceship engines. If they were some cool, translucent/semi-transparent effect that looked awesome (see your own loginscreen maller or pictures of ion thrusters IRL) they'd be great but as is they just kind of look silly and out of place. e: I updated my client again and took another look today. The trails seem to look weirder on some ships than on others-- sometimes they seem to be too bright and opaque. On other ships full speed leaves them with a nice level of transparency. Also, the new engine effects on some ships (with the heat-shimmer + glow) looks fantastic-- please, please continue to apply this to all ships. Also also, I really liked your concept art for the Talos with its hall-thruster-esque ring engines. They could look really good on TQ :3
Logix42 Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 6	Posted - 2011.11.16 22:03:00 - [35] - Quote They're very cool but they need to scale down a bit in length. I'm not riding a motorcycle from Tron...
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx 107	Posted - 2011.11.16 23:45:00 - [36] - Quote Kadassh wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiK7Jr6JuvI&feature=related That is a video of Nexus - Jupiter Incident gameplay.. The engine trails in this game are amazing. I think eve should take notice of these, and try and do something similiar. That's way too fuzzy; looks like cotton coming out of the engines. I love the new engine trails. They look good and seem to be very light on gpu resources. Though that doesn't mean they can't stand a few improvements, like better 'physics' with respect to ship movement and attitude, and maybe a little roughness added in like some mach disks or something. Also, the trails need better antialiesing.
Ancy Denaries Frontier Venture 13	Posted - 2011.11.16 23:51:00 - [37] - Quote Imrik86 wrote: I fear that's impossible. It would equal to more lag. So... we have the old school thruster trails back. Nice. Problem is that they don't fit anymore with the more realistic graphics. OP is right. Need a little iteration on that. Yeah so explain to me, please, how a client side graphics effect cause server side latency. Please do share, I am genuinely intrigued.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx 113	Posted - 2011.11.17 20:51:00 - [38] - Quote Ganthrithor wrote: If they were some cool, translucent/semi-transparent effect that looked awesome (see your own loginscreen maller or pictures of ion thrusters IRL) they'd be great but as is they just kind of look silly and out of place. I thought all engines will now have that 'nozzle glow' that we saw on the Incarna login Maller and the winter expansion web page background image. I wonder if that's still coming?

CCP Vertex C C P C C P Alliance 29	Posted - 2011.11.17 20:54:00 - [39] - Quote Razin wrote: Ganthrithor wrote: If they were some cool, translucent/semi-transparent effect that looked awesome (see your own loginscreen maller or pictures of ion thrusters IRL) they'd be great but as is they just kind of look silly and out of place. I thought all engines will now have that 'nozzle glow' that we saw on the Incarna login Maller and the winter expansion web page background image. I wonder if that's still coming? All V3'd ships will have the 'nozzle glow' effect, that is currently all Caldari/Gallente sub-capital ships. CCP-áVertex -á\|-á Art Quality Assurance-á \| -áTeam Trilambda

Daedalus Arcova Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD. 128	Posted - 2011.11.17 22:47:00 - [40] - Quote From the YouTube footage of the new trails, I will certainly be turning them off. They're ugly, and completely immersion breaking. The only place that they might look appropriate is in warp, which is the only place that they don't appear. I hope CCP has put as much effort into reworking the thruster effects on V3'd ships as they have into their Tron beams. There are horrific clipping issues on the thrusters on several TQ models/skins.

Kadazer Quantum Equilibrium 0	Posted - 2011.11.18 16:15:00 - [41] - Quote The engine trails are really too smooth and too sharp at the edges. They should have some texture which is fix in space so it really looks like the ship are leaving something behind.
Hiram Alexander Seraphim Securities 85	Posted - 2011.11.18 17:12:00 - [42] - Quote Just posting to say, that while I don't like the appearance of the (currently unfinished?) trail-tubes; as they are at the moment. I still think they're useful as a visual guide, and so for me, the ideal solution would be to have two separate check-boxes for the effect... 1. View own trails <-- I'd definitely switch that OFF 2. View other trails <-- I'd almost certainly leave that ON
Caiman Graystock Comrades in Construction Mean Coalition 16	Posted - 2011.11.18 17:42:00 - [43] - Quote Weird that we're getting better immersion in some aspects of the game, such as the nebulas, star locations and gate orientation then these weirdly graphically out of place engine 'TAILS' as they were labelled on the previous page are being put in. If they actually looked like exhaust, such as in the Jupiter Incident video posted on the previous page, then I might consider leaving them on, indeed...
Vachir Khan TriSeq Defence Group 44	Posted - 2011.11.18 19:31:00 - [44] - Quote The engine trails, just like the cyno, have the same bland, boring and uninspired simple colour fade. I'm sorry but that's too easy and while I'm sure many of the players in EVE adopt the 5 yearold "oooh free cookie" approach, I would have expected CCP learned from past experience when it comes to introducing unfinished mediocre stuff. Right now it looks like the the DEV responsible either lacked the interest, the time, the tools and/or the talent to make something worthy of this MMO. PLEASE take the time to do it right, I'd much rather have you delay by a couple of week to cram as much awesome as you possibly can into it before you should present it to us and then go "this is the very best we can do, took us ages but god damn we're proud of it. I'm sure it was worth the wait", rather that "here's some scribblings we pooped out on a Monday morning, now be grateful for the next 2 years cause we won't touch that **** for at least that long". Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
SMT008 Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation 246	Posted - 2011.11.19 00:10:00 - [45] - Quote Dude, in the last 2 months, they did more than they did during the previous year. How is that a bad thing that they add new stuff in great quantities ? Looks like a pretty good job (It doesn't erase the past mistakes, but hey, they can't go back in time, we won't stay perpetually angry at them are we ?).
Vachir Khan TriSeq Defence Group 44	Posted - 2011.11.19 00:28:00 - [46] - Quote SMT008 wrote: Dude, in the last 2 months, they did more than they did during the previous year. How is that a bad thing that they add new stuff in great quantities ? Looks like a pretty good job (It doesn't erase the past mistakes, but hey, they can't go back in time, we won't stay perpetually angry at them are we ?). Ah the quantity over quality approach; "we get lots of stuff thus it's ok it it's not all that well thought out". No, I do appreciate all the effort they're putting in but that doesn't mean I'll accept them doing half arsed stuff again. I'd like them to take the time to do it right rather than do it quickly, CCP's Achilles' heel always has been introducing half completed stuff/expansions, that's what GOT us into this whole trouble. Don't mistake me being angry over the :18 months: and still taking it out on them, I'm not. Actually, I'm voicing my concern that I possibly see the same old pattern arise again. I would want them to adhere to the "it's done when it's done, and it's only done when it's truly awesome", rather than "must complete before a set date because we said so and we're afraid people might dislike us for it if we don't make it, even thought it's not actually fully done or up to standards". Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
who shat themselves Hedion University Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2011.11.19 01:50:00 - [47] - Quote Vachir Khan wrote: The engine trails, just like the cyno, have the same bland, boring and uninspired simple colour fade. I'm sorry but that's too easy and while I'm sure many of the players in EVE adopt the 5 yearold "oooh free cookie" approach, I would have expected CCP learned from past experience when it comes to introducing unfinished mediocre stuff. Right now it looks like the the DEV responsible either lacked the interest, the time, the tools and/or the talent to make something worthy of this MMO. PLEASE take the time to do it right, I'd much rather have you delay by a couple of week to cram as much awesome as you possibly can into it before you should present it to us and then go "this is the very best we can do, took us ages but god damn we're proud of it. I'm sure it was worth the wait", rather that "here's some scribblings we pooped out on a Monday morning, now be grateful for the next 2 years cause we won't touch that **** for at least that long". Just for any passing CCP duder: this sperger doesn't represent what the majority think


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