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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 12/05/2006 05:52:53
double post  i blame the servers
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Syrec
Any gaming press person worth their salt knows how hardware upgrades in MMOs work. Press people who don't know about these things are press people who don't actually game, and they aren't worth listening to. Come to think of it, most of the gaming press isn't worth listening to. They play the games they review for 5 minutes and act like they know everything, or get paid to give a 10 stars rating and never play the game at all.
Oh quit with the fanboy stuff, it's nauseating.
Any reasonable person would realize that having the game unavailable during a big show is a bad idea. Sure it's good to have hardware upgrade, but they don't need to happen at same time as once a year world wide show.
Rather than trying to defend a mistake just admit that it was a mistake and it shouldn't happen again.
Yes, they shouldnt have planned to do it during E3. Before or after would have been better. But im sure they had their reasons. We'll see what they say when the upgrade is complete.
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Nina686
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Syrec
Any gaming press person worth their salt knows how hardware upgrades in MMOs work. Press people who don't know about these things are press people who don't actually game, and they aren't worth listening to. Come to think of it, most of the gaming press isn't worth listening to. They play the games they review for 5 minutes and act like they know everything, or get paid to give a 10 stars rating and never play the game at all.
Oh quit with the fanboy stuff, it's nauseating.
Any reasonable person would realize that having the game unavailable during a big show is a bad idea. Sure it's good to have hardware upgrade, but they don't need to happen at same time as once a year world wide show.
Rather than trying to defend a mistake just admit that it was a mistake and it shouldn't happen again.
as if you actually know. this thread should be locked your all retarded and the rest of us are becoming retarded by reading it...
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:00:00 -
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I know it's bad for me to reply to petty insults, but I'm bored.
What is it that you think I should "know" before making my comment? I was speaking from perspective of "any reasonable person", not as someone with inside knowledge of CCP or experience in sitting up shows.
I guess I should have spelled out how reasoable people would reason such a case, for those of us not reasonable enough to follow the process on their own.
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Nina686
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
As a qualified IT technician, winner of the Miss Bulgaria 2003 contest, messiah of a small religion and a generally amazing guy, I know what I am talking about, and I can tell you CCP have done it all wrong. I could have done this deployment while eating cake, standing on my head and being fellated by a grizzly bear, and still finished it in half the time they provided, without all these delays.
omg congrats... you're now the owner of the most retarded post in the thread.  everyone give this person a round of applause, it couldn't have been easy for him to think of something to say thats more stupid than whats already here. 
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Baji Core
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:02:00 -
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Two things, and I think I'm being fair here:
- It was foolish to schedule an extended downtime during E3, when you would be hoping that new customers would be attracted to the game, and give it a try.
- I know it's very difficult to do, as I have to on occasion, but striving for more accurate time estimates for serious system changes resulting in downtime should be looked into. It seems that every single time there is an extended DT, it stretches out at least 25% longer than estimated. Im my company, I just double my estimate for such things. It is almost always more accurate that way :)
Not that my comments really matter - I'm just bored
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Akkarin Pagan
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:05:00 -
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While not knowing the internal workings of CCP, I am familiar with working for large companies. In most of the companies I have worked for the left hand never knew what the right hand was doing at any time. Why should CCP not suffer from a similar lack of interdepartmental communications? Everyone else seems to, and yet they still make money! (which is quite scary really!)
Akkarin Pagan
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Draquin
I think they used Sisi as the demo server for E-3, which honestly is not that unsusual since you dont realy want the press to get ganked for flying cluelessly into bobspace.
awww no fair, i wanna kill the press
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Kolatha
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Yes, they shouldnt have planned to do it during E3. Before or after would have been better. But im sure they had their reasons. We'll see what they say when the upgrade is complete.
Perhaps it was the only way the techs could do something like this without senior management trying to micromanage every little cable and plug into place.
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Villium Ezeart
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:17:00 -
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I would have to agree with the author as to the timing aspect. I love EvE and want to see it flourish and grow with new inhabitants. Its not only press that attends E3 and im sure more than a few people from E3 have attempted to sign on during this down time period. Bad timing ccp, tsk tsk. That being said, Ive worked in the IT industry for 12 years. Ive been in the position of being responsible un planned down time. Ive had to hear entire organizations of people whine like little babies becuase they failed to take the recomended contingency advice and print out their precious reports early. To those i say; despite the flashy IBM commercials and the fansy "Yes man" salesmen that told you it would work without a problem **** always happens. When you grow up youll come to expect things to not go as planned and thus will not be so dissapointed.
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Nina686
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
I know it's bad for me to reply to petty insults, but I'm bored.
What is it that you think I should "know" before making my comment? I was speaking from perspective of "any reasonable person", not as someone with inside knowledge of CCP or experience in sitting up shows.
I guess I should have spelled out how reasoable people would reason such a case, for those of us not reasonable enough to follow the process on their own.
tissue?
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Futher Bezluden
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:18:00 -
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I love this, I'm in Fresno telling CompUSA, PC Club, Best Buy, and GameSpot all about EVE at E3 on Monday and to get it up and running with buddy accounts, showcase some videos, screenshots as backgrounds. Very few in the US really know about EVE. Hopefully, you will start advertising EVE a bit here in the US otherwise people are only going to hear about it through word of mouth. I don't even think there are old EVE cd's in the bargain bins. Get in touch with the major computer outlets and retailers to get some visibility.
Worst timing in the world guys. Should have done this a week before E3 or right after, but not during. Hope you enjoyed the beer. Now get everything running smooth and for the love of all holy and digital please fix the local bug, non-returning drones, and all the other annoying little bugs dancing around in the server.
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Nina686
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Akkarin Pagan
While not knowing the internal workings of CCP, I am familiar with working for large companies. In most of the companies I have worked for the left hand never knew what the right hand was doing at any time. Why should CCP not suffer from a similar lack of interdepartmental communications? Everyone else seems to, and yet they still make money! (which is quite scary really!)
Akkarin Pagan
i know what your saying but the fact is that nobody here knows wtf they're talking about... just a bunch of know-it-alls.
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Nina686
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Villium Ezeart
I would have to agree with the author as to the timing aspect. I love EvE and want to see it flourish and grow with new inhabitants. Its not only press that attends E3 and im sure more than a few people from E3 have attempted to sign on during this down time period. Bad timing ccp, tsk tsk. That being said, Ive worked in the IT industry for 12 years. Ive been in the position of being responsible un planned down time. Ive had to hear entire organizations of people whine like little babies becuase they failed to take the recomended contingency advice and print out their precious reports early. To those i say; despite the flashy IBM commercials and the fansy "Yes man" salesmen that told you it would work without a problem **** always happens. When you grow up youll come to expect things to not go as planned and thus will not be so dissapointed.
*sigh* another know-it-all.
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Noob Factor
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:34:00 -
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RABLE RABLE RABLE RABLE
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Oh quit with the fanboy stuff, it's nauseating.
Any reasonable person would realize that having the game unavailable during a big show is a bad idea. Sure it's good to have hardware upgrade, but they don't need to happen at same time as once a year world wide show.
Rather than trying to defend a mistake just admit that it was a mistake and it shouldn't happen again.
Any reasonable person would see that my post didn't mention this game at all. Any literate person would know that my post was about gaming press. If you're so much of a gaming press groupie fanboy that it hurts you to see me criticize them, you should invest in a T2 tissue BPO.
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Leon 026
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:56:00 -
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We sure do seem to have a lot of marketing "experts" on these forums.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:15:00 -
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Oh noes! The server is down, I have to actually go and get a life.
Seriously guys, there's never a _good_ time to take servers down. E3 is largely irrelevant, in that regard.
As for those asking about 'WTF are they doing and E3 and not working on it' please consider what the abbreviation 'dev' actually means - developer. E.g. someone who is not allowed to touch real hardware.
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Sivona
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:23:00 -
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Servers back up you can all stop whining now.
Threads like this remind me why i dont visit the general discussion forum.
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Noluck Ned
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Nina686
Originally by: HippoKing
As a qualified IT technician, winner of the Miss Bulgaria 2003 contest, messiah of a small religion and a generally amazing guy, I know what I am talking about, and I can tell you CCP have done it all wrong. I could have done this deployment while eating cake, standing on my head and being fellated by a grizzly bear, and still finished it in half the time they provided, without all these delays.
omg congrats... you're now the owner of the most retarded post in the thread. everyone give this person a round of applause, it couldn't have been easy for him to think of something to say thats more stupid than whats already here.
Please go directly to Dictionary.Com, look up the words Irony, Ironic and Sarcasm.
Then you may begin to realise what Hippo was talking about.
The Deployment during E3 can mean one of two things:
1. Bad Planning.
2. CCP have a reason for it.
If it was number one....well shame on them.
If it was number 2, well we may get to hear it from them eventually.
Pehaps they wanted to get EVE upgraded before the Zerg rush caused by all the new signups causes Jita to collapse into a singularity, sucking the whole of Forge and Citadel regions into its ravening gravitational Maw.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.05.12 07:46:00 -
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omg CCP Did it right this time. They shut down the forum as well. Yet idiots still decide to complain and whine as soon as it comes up.
You had adequate warning, get over it.
WELL DONE CCP.
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Logi3
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Posted - 2006.05.12 08:20:00 -
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Fools, CCP are not showing there current game off at E3. E3 is about whats comming out in the future and the chance to showoff the latest hardware etc. CCP are showing off the Titans and other new bits
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Mysterious Stranger
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Posted - 2006.05.12 08:22:00 -
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Uhm, think about it this way everyone (sorry if someone already mentioned it).
I think I would rather have them do an upgrade during E3 than *after* E3 as newer players would become frustrated with the downtime after being introduced to the game by the press.
We know about CCP attending E3 but I don't think many others do (right now). People aren't going to flock to Eve during E3 because big companies (Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony) are the big hits at the moment, along with other big names and they're getting all of the attention. When the show is over there will probably be a couple articles up showing other companies that attended E3 and that's when people will discover CCP and the Eve Online universe.
Just keep that in mind.
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Nina686
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Posted - 2006.05.12 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Logi3
Fools, CCP are not showing there current game off at E3. E3 is about whats comming out in the future and the chance to showoff the latest hardware etc. CCP are showing off the Titans and other new bits
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ermo
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Posted - 2006.05.12 08:52:00 -
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We don't need any more carebears and whinging juicelords, so if the Hardware upgrade during E3 prevented more muppets from signing up then good job CCP 
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Wilfan Ret'nub
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: ermo
We don't need any more carebears and whinging juicelords, so if the Hardware upgrade during E3 prevented more muppets from signing up then good job CCP
Why? Let them come and let blasters and torpedoes sort the chaff from the wheat.
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Leon 026
We sure do seem to have a lot of marketing "experts" on these forums.
Dont forget all the IT experts, mmo designers, etc...
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Edania
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:33:00 -
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I may be missing somthing here but isnt it the content/marketing/game designers who are at E3, Sure they can shout and throw beer at the hardware guys, but seriously what good comes from having Oveur in the server room, im sure hes a cut above the rest of us mere mortals when it comes to hardware but CCP does employ specialists for this kind of thing.
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Taniya
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:51:00 -
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Hold on a minute, CCP has shiny new hardware that will make Eve run better????
Put it in there ASAP
Who cares about some stupid conference I'm not attending anyway? 
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.05.12 11:00:00 -
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i think there will eb a delay with e3 to journals trying out eve (mind u gamespot did what 1 story on eve) shows how smart they are. CCP keep eve low marketing - high qulaity and those that do play it think its the best bl00dy game ever. Which it is it trumps the compeittion hands down.
Id rather keep growth steady aim for 180-200k) paying accounts by the end of the year - its profitable now so thats good. We want a certain type of player in the game to.
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