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AzzyE The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:20:00 - [1] - Quote Well it's easy guys. Just unsub youre mining alts and stop mining. Peace
GreenSeed 993	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:25:00 - [2] - Quote allright.
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve 1820	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:27:00 - [3] - Quote I assume you'll lead the charge? Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5465	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:30:00 - [4] - Quote Par for the course for Scope posting, honestly. Go ahead and quit, bro. That's the wonderful thing about capitalism, the market steps in to fill any significant gap. If enough of you lot quit to make an impact, it just raises the price and gives further incentive to mine. Which handily balances out your even existing at all. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Karen Avioras Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult 460	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:44:00 - [5] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: I assume you'll lead the charge? I hope he does
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 1389	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:44:00 - [6] - Quote Well, anyone that whines to CCP to fix their problem won't be missed. If you have a problem with gankers, fix it yourself (though unsubbing is also a good choice in your case). . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
Bi-Mi Lansatha HIFI INDUSTRIAL The Kadeshi 284	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:51:00 - [7] - Quote AzzyE wrote: Miners ! Do you want CCP to do someting about the ganks on miners ? CCP is doing something.... look at that Skiff!!!! SKIFF Mining Barge Bonus per level: +5% Shield HP -2% Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration Exhumer Bonus per level: +4% Shield resistances -2% Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration Role Bonuses: +150% Bonus to Strip Miner yield -60% Ice Harvester duration and capacitor use +50% Drone Damage and Hitpoints Slot layout: 1H, 5M, 3L(+1); Fittings: 50 PWG, 300(+30) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6500 / 5500 / 6000 Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 900 / 187.5s / 4.8 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 200 / 1 / 10,000,000 / 13.86s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 100(+50) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 30km(+7.5km) / 440(-220) / 6(+2) Sensor strength: 14(+4) Signature radius: 150(-50) Ore Bay: 15000m3
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 189	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:54:00 - [8] - Quote AzzyE wrote: Well it's easy guys. Just unsub youre mining alts and stop mining. Peace Any alts that do this - Can I have your stuff? Seriously not getting ganked really isn't that hard... But you would have to be actually paying attention and be at your keyboard to do that... With that said please point at the toy machinaw where the evil catalyst touched you. Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 189	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:03:00 - [9] - Quote Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: AzzyE wrote: Miners ! Do you want CCP to do someting about the ganks on miners ? CCP is doing something.... look at that Skiff!!!! Isn't the procurer getting a similar buff? Puts a new whole meaning to bait ship. The bait ship can actually kill the bait now :D Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:09:00 - [10] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: AzzyE wrote: Miners ! Do you want CCP to do someting about the ganks on miners ? CCP is doing something.... look at that Skiff!!!! Isn't the procurer getting a similar buff? Puts a new whole meaning to bait ship. The bait ship can actually kill the bait now :D I heard the Proc was losing a mid slot and gaining a low, which one one had would please the yield-miners and on the other will frustrate the good, sensible, safe miners who like to tank But bigger drone bay, apparently. * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 518	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:14:00 - [11] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: AzzyE wrote: Miners ! Do you want CCP to do someting about the ganks on miners ? CCP is doing something.... look at that Skiff!!!! Isn't the procurer getting a similar buff? Puts a new whole meaning to bait ship. The bait ship can actually kill the bait now :D I heard the Proc was losing a mid slot and gaining a low, which one one had would please the yield-miners and on the other will frustrate the good, sensible, safe miners who like to tank But bigger drone bay, apparently. They reversed the mid slot switch and just gave the skiff an extra low
Arancar Australis Dead Sun Rising Enterprises 93	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:21:00 - [12] - Quote AzzyE wrote: Well it's easy guys. Just unsub youre mining alts and stop mining. Peace Since I am a fellow miner, can i Procurer your unwanted mining items? It would be such a waste to let them just lie there unloved and unused. But as for gankers, meh...they are a part of this game as us miners, just roll with the punches and keep on mining. Cheers, AA
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:22:00 - [13] - Quote Rowells wrote: They reversed the mid slot switch and just gave the skiff an extra low Oh ok cool * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 638	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:31:00 - [14] - Quote @ the OP, the miners in my corp regard getting ganked as part of the "running costs" of a mining op. The effort to protect a fleet generally was not worth the lost income. This is changing in the summer patch. Ramona McCandless wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: AzzyE wrote: Miners ! Do you want CCP to do someting about the ganks on miners ? CCP is doing something.... look at that Skiff!!!! Isn't the procurer getting a similar buff? Puts a new whole meaning to bait ship. The bait ship can actually kill the bait now :D I heard the Proc was losing a mid slot and gaining a low, which one one had would please the yield-miners and on the other will frustrate the good, sensible, safe miners who like to tank But bigger drone bay, apparently. New procurer looks good. It is way faster and has double drone bay and more drone damage. Plus a bit more mining ability. More targets and a longer targeting range. Less resolution apparently so people do not start building extra cheap combat ships out of them. Ore hold the same size. Smaller sig so harder to hit.. This was the initial proposed changes, have not heard it changed greatly: Quote: PROCURER Mining Barge Bonus per level: +5% Shield HP -2% Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration Role Bonuses: +150% Bonus to Strip Miner yield -60% Ice Harvester duration and capacitor use +50% Drone Damage and Hitpoints Slot layout: 1H, 4M, 2L; Fittings: 45 PWG, 255(+5) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6000 / 5000 / 5500 Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 800 / 187.5s / 4.27 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 160(+70) / 1 / 10,000,000 / 13.86s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 50(+25) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 30km(+7.5km) / 440(-220) / 5(+1) Sensor strength: 10 Signature radius: 150(-50) Ore Bay: 12000m3
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 190	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:34:00 - [15] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote: AzzyE wrote: Miners ! Do you want CCP to do someting about the ganks on miners ? CCP is doing something.... look at that Skiff!!!! Isn't the procurer getting a similar buff? Puts a new whole meaning to bait ship. The bait ship can actually kill the bait now :D I heard the Proc was losing a mid slot and gaining a low, which one one had would please the yield-miners and on the other will frustrate the good, sensible, safe miners who like to tank But bigger drone bay, apparently. I was thinking more like a suicide gank bait ship. HIGH Ice Harvester II MID Medium shield extender II Adaptive invulnerability field II Warp disrupter II LOW Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drones 5x Hobgoblin II 5x Warrior II Even if they don't target you, it would provide good defense to fellow miners who may be in weaker ships. Usually when I'm on my industrial alt and I'm bored I throw weird fits out there in attempt to bait a suicide gank to see if I can live long enough to either pick up an easy kill, or they get concorded. I actually once fitted a hulk with 1 strip miner and 2 nuets, and enough tank to survive a full 19 second gank from a solo catalyst. I got a bite, had one Catalyst completely nueted out and survived with 10% armour left. 2 easy kills :D Granted I have most of the relevant shield skills to V, and sheil and this probably won't work with someone who didn't bother, but that's what I do for fun on my industrialist :D Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM
Vaju Enki Secular Wisdom 1287	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:37:00 - [16] - Quote Tears. Good. The Tears Must Flow
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:43:00 - [17] - Quote Im no miner but I really like the Proc Even though Im pro-Code Im still in favour of the proposed changes too. The only downside is that these will probably continue to drive its price up even further, but then that will be good for some folk too. Still, Death to all Retrievers. * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Webvan State Protectorate Caldari State 1997	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:06:00 - [18] - Quote AzzyE wrote: Well it's easy guys. Just unsub youre mining alts and stop mining. Peace ... U 9?
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 639	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:09:00 - [19] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: The only downside is that these will probably continue to drive its price up even further, but then that will be good for some folk too. . Procurers are stupidly cheap due to a massive oversupply dating back forever... they sell for 15 mill or so whilst they cost 20 mill plus to make. Its one of the few ships where T2 fits can cost as much as the hull. If they end up mining at the same rate as a retriever they will become very viable if you are loading directly into an Orca. Especially with some fleet boosts to the tank.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5472	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:13:00 - [20] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: The only downside is that these will probably continue to drive its price up even further, but then that will be good for some folk too. . Procurers are stupidly cheap due to a massive oversupply dating back forever... they sell for 15 mill or so whilst they cost 20 mill plus to make. Its one of the few ships where T2 fits can cost as much as the hull. If they end up mining at the same rate as a retriever they will become very viable if you are loading directly into an Orca. Especially with some fleet boosts to the tank. I know, it's going to be ridiculous. In decent numbers they'll even be hard to awox in thanks to the bonused drones. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Alyth Nerun Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE. 217	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:13:00 - [21] - Quote Don't worry CCP, I will sub another gank alt to compensate for the OP
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 191	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:18:00 - [22] - Quote Alyth Nerun wrote: Don't worry CCP, I will sub another gank alt to compensate for the OP see... who said that Q.Q threads didn't help the bottom line :D Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:21:00 - [23] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: The only downside is that these will probably continue to drive its price up even further, but then that will be good for some folk too. . Procurers are stupidly cheap due to a massive oversupply dating back forever... they sell for 15 mill or so whilst they cost 20 mill plus to make. Its one of the few ships where T2 fits can cost as much as the hull. If they end up mining at the same rate as a retriever they will become very viable if you are loading directly into an Orca. Especially with some fleet boosts to the tank. Yes. And six months ago they were 10m If? Dont they almost mine at the same rate as it is? (Im not a bean counter, so I dont count 10% +/- as an effective difference in rate) The few who stubbornly refuse to leave their terribad retrievers will I suppose be able to pick up loads on the used market. * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 191	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:31:00 - [24] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: The only downside is that these will probably continue to drive its price up even further, but then that will be good for some folk too. . Procurers are stupidly cheap due to a massive oversupply dating back forever... they sell for 15 mill or so whilst they cost 20 mill plus to make. Its one of the few ships where T2 fits can cost as much as the hull. If they end up mining at the same rate as a retriever they will become very viable if you are loading directly into an Orca. Especially with some fleet boosts to the tank. Yes. And six months ago they were 10m If? Dont they almost mine at the same rate as it is? (Im not a bean counter, so I dont count 10% +/- as an effective difference in rate) The few who stubbornly refuse to leave their terribad retrievers will I suppose be able to pick up loads on the used market. Last time I put it through EFT, The retriever mined with less then 1% more yield then the procurer. The only reason the retriever/machinaw is so popular is because they are AFK friendly with their large cargo bays. Basically all the retriever/machinaw are is suicide ganker magnets. Might as well just put up a sign that says gank me around your neck. Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3687	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:39:00 - [25] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Last time I put it through EFT, The retriever mined with less then 1% more yield then the procurer. The only reason the retriever/machinaw is so popular is because they are AFK friendly with their large cargo bays. Basically all the retriever/machinaw are is suicide ganker magnets. Might as well just put up a sign that says gank me around your neck. See, thats what I had suspected but never checked. Lazy asses and people who dont know any better because they have terrible CEOs think that the Ret is in someway a better ship that the Proc * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 890	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:52:00 - [26] - Quote I agree with the OP. All these miners should just unsub. Instead, others who actually understand not to get killed will take their places. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures??
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1287	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:57:00 - [27] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: See, thats what I had suspected but never checked. Lazy asses and people who dont know any better because they have terrible CEOs think that the Ret is in someway a better ship that the Proc EFT Warriors never get the whole story. While on paper the Proc is almost as good the retriever wins cleanly in reality due to the bonus to make them all equivalent to 3 strip miners being a yield bonus for ore, not a time/cap bonus like ice got. Which means that a Proc mines 'dead' roids far more often resulting in wasted time, and therefore reduced yield.
Dave Stark 5165	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:58:00 - [28] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Last time I put it through EFT, The retriever mined with less then 1% more yield then the procurer. they have the same yield, before mlus.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3687	Posted - 2014.04.28 09:08:00 - [29] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: See, thats what I had suspected but never checked. Lazy asses and people who dont know any better because they have terrible CEOs think that the Ret is in someway a better ship that the Proc EFT Warriors never get the whole story. While on paper the Proc is almost as good the retriever wins cleanly in reality due to the bonus to make them all equivalent to 3 strip miners being a yield bonus for ore, not a time/cap bonus like ice got. Which means that a Proc mines 'dead' roids far more often resulting in wasted time, and therefore reduced yield. I dont use EFT, I look at the ship stats. So instead of guessing, lets look. Retriever Traits: Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to ore hold capacity Role Bonus: 50% bonus to Strip Miner yield 33.33% reduction in Ice Harvester Duration and capacitor use Procurer Traits: Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to shield hit points Role Bonus: 200% bonus to Strip Miner yield 66.66% reduction in Ice Harvester Duration and capacitor use So... A Ret has 2 Strip miners, each with a +50% Role bonus, giving a yield as if it had three strip miners A Proc has 1 Strip miner, with a +200% Role bonus, giving a yield as if it had three strip miners Now, unless Ive grabbed old data (and if I have, please correct me), looks like they are the same to me, modified by low slots, though this reduces the tank of both if exclusively fitted with Money-Grabber Upgrades Also, how does the Proc mine "dead" roids more often? because it only has one beam and not two? If this is a worry, deploy mining drones. Also, Rets are easier to kill, and so you are probably replacing the ship more often, and this should be a calculation if isk over time is your absolute only concern. * Vote MTU For CSM * *Free The Jita 1* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius
Asia Leigh Beyond New Frontier 194	Posted - 2014.04.28 09:10:00 - [30] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: See, thats what I had suspected but never checked. Lazy asses and people who dont know any better because they have terrible CEOs think that the Ret is in someway a better ship that the Proc EFT Warriors never get the whole story. While on paper the Proc is almost as good the retriever wins cleanly in reality due to the bonus to make them all equivalent to 3 strip miners being a yield bonus for ore, not a time/cap bonus like ice got. Which means that a Proc mines 'dead' roids far more often resulting in wasted time, and therefore reduced yield. Hmm... I heard there was a module for such situations, you know - survey scanners. But yeah again you actually have to be at the keyboard to use it... Don't be lazy and play the game... That's the point we are making Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM

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