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King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:38:00 -
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Quote:Omnidirectional tracking link cycle time has been increased to 30 seconds. Capacitor use per cycle remains unchanged.
30 seconds, srsly CCP?
Why even have it scripted anymore?
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Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
394
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:41:00 -
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Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
54
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:43:00 -
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Great post m8
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Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
394
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:48:00 -
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Doesn't hold a candle to yours though.
No post ever will.
They should have it engraved upon the monument in Iceland. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
639
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:50:00 -
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meh ... I script to avoid stacking penalties, never change them on the fly.
though TBH I fly a Domi when using drones so omni matters less
Isn't 30 seconds also the reload time on RHML ? maybe the new server tick is 30 seconds |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
54
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:51:00 -
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They tripled the cycle time of Omnidirectional Tracking Links, 30 seconds is long enough to prevent swapping scripts in combat. Now I'd like to know if the already nerfed Omnis were so overpowered that they had to be made even worse.
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Cavalira
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
330
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:54:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread
Just stop posting. You're awful at it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21349
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:55:00 -
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Ooh. Gàô the capacitor draw. Now there's a nerf that really kicks people in the 'nads. Wait what? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
54
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ooh. Gàô the capacitor draw. Now there's a nerf that really kicks people in the 'nads. Wait what?
There are no fits where the absolutely neglible cap draw of an Omni makes any kind of difference whatsoever |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5205
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:58:00 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:They tripled the cycle time of Omnidirectional Tracking Links, 30 seconds is long enough to prevent swapping scripts in combat. Now I'd like to know if the already nerfed Omnis were so overpowered that they had to be made even worse.
Triple cycle time means 1/3 cap usage.
Cheer up!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3693
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:00:00 -
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I wish there was some way to make isk out of duplicate ship toasts *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Sturmwolke
553
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:10:00 -
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Minor nerf if they're actively swapping scripts. It'll be damn annoying to wait 30sec before you can swap. Cap draw isn't an issue for omnis. |
Vorago Ignius
Chasm of Liberty
2
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:11:00 -
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i guess this is more serious to ships that only use one instead of 3 omnis, because on those with 3, you will be using the same scripts most of the time any way.
so i'll take that less cap draw, thank you. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6236
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:26:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread
Yep, you see, omnidirectional link that work like other tracking computers use cap. New players have poor cap skills. Most new players also play in high sec, therefor Omnis using cap is a DIRECT nerf to high sec.
Thank you for allowing me this opportunity to practice my Dinsdalian logic. |
Thats OK
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:41:00 -
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30 seconds? Well that's just silly. As if the previous nerf was not bad enough.
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:46:00 -
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I'm just glad they fixed everything else and finally this scourge is eliminated.
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
600
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ooh. Gàô the capacitor draw. Now there's a nerf that really kicks people in the 'nads. Wait what?
TBH the capacitor draw was a zero issue prior to the nerf. This is more like a poor aatempt at a appology from CCP to say yea we know your taking up the poop shute but hey look we cut the cap use in half.
This change will certainly stop me from swapping scripts mid fight. Its like they are trying to kill drone play. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2810
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:42:00 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:Quote:Omnidirectional tracking link cycle time has been increased to 30 seconds. Capacitor use per cycle remains unchanged. 30 seconds, srsly CCP? Why even have it scripted anymore?
CCP hates high sec. Pretty simple answer. Just look at the total set of changes being inflicted on high sec. They demonstrate the contempt CCP has for the largest segment of its player base (soon to not be its largest segment).
Rubicon was very aptly named. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21357
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:44:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP hates high sec. Pretty simple answer. Yes, how awful that they made a change that only affects modules used in highsec and nowhere else.
Wait, what (again)? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:47:00 -
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Dinsdale wtf
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6242
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:49:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:Quote:Omnidirectional tracking link cycle time has been increased to 30 seconds. Capacitor use per cycle remains unchanged. 30 seconds, srsly CCP? Why even have it scripted anymore? CCP hates high sec. Pretty simple answer. Just look at the total set of changes being inflicted on high sec. They demonstrate the contempt CCP has for the largest segment of its player base (soon to not be its largest segment). Rubicon was very aptly named.
Called it!!!!!!
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2811
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:52:00 -
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King Fu Hostile wrote:Dinsdale wtf
F1 monkeys in null don't change scripts nearly as often as someone ratting in a mission, where the frigs are on top of you, and you have to now have to wait 30 seconds to get a chance to shoot them.
So if this was really about cap usage, then CCP could just as easily cut the activation cost by 3. But no, they made the module even more unusable.
edit:
I best not complain though about the fact that tracking computers have a cycle time of 10 seconds, because CCP might then just "balance" those as well to 30 seconds. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
stoicfaux
4609
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:Quote:Omnidirectional tracking link cycle time has been increased to 30 seconds. Capacitor use per cycle remains unchanged. 30 seconds, srsly CCP? Why even have it scripted anymore? CCP hates high sec. Pretty simple answer. Just look at the total set of changes being inflicted on high sec. They demonstrate the contempt CCP has for the largest segment of its player base (soon to not be its largest segment). Rubicon was very aptly named. Called it!!!!!! Dinsdale alt spotted!
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3701
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:55:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:Dinsdale wtf
F1 monkeys in null don't change scripts nearly as often as someone ratting in a mission, where the frigs are on top of you, and you have to now have to wait 30 seconds to get a chance to shoot them. So if this was really about cap usage, then CCP could just as easily cut the activation cost by 3. But no, they made the module even more unusable.
So it doesnt do anything?
Or its impossible to fit?
It would have to be one or both of those to be unusable
Also somethign cant be MORE unusable. It either is usable or its not. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
stoicfaux
4609
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:56:00 -
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At the risk of repeating myself, the reasons for the 30s change are:
Reduced server load.
Sentry 'balancing'.
To encourage use of the new drone low-slot mods which will be more "balanced" (e.g. TEs versus TCs) thus making the low-slot fixed "generally" bonused low-slot omni-equivalent a valid choice over the 30s to change, all-or-nothing min-maxed Omnis. Which has the "side" effect of DDAs competing with low-slot Omnis and thus reducing drone DPS (aka more balancing,) while also making the new faction DDA's more attractive.
It also opens up the market for specialized drones, e.g. drones with a inherently better than tracking or range as a means of compensating for the 30s inflexibility of the Omni script swaps.
The lower cap use is just a weak attempt to assuage CCP's guilt and mollify/distract the player base.
For bonus karma (negative karma is still karma,) CCP will probably make it so the mid-slot Omnis won't work without a script, ergo, you can either have an Optimal bonus or a Tracking bonus, but not both, thus making the low-slot Omni modules attractive/competitive.
/tin_foil_in_bulk WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21359
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:57:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:F1 monkeys in null don't change scripts nearly as often as someone ratting in a mission F1 monkeys in highsec missions don't have to react as rapidly to changing circumstances as someone killing player-controlled ships in low and null. If you can't predict what you're going to need 30 seconds in advance when facing NPCs, you probably need to seek medical attention for your cognitive or nervous disorders.
Quote:But no, they made the module even more unusable. GÇ£Even moreGÇ¥ suggests that it is unusable. If so, then the change makes no difference. In reality, it's usable GÇö before as well as after the change.
No matter how much you try, this is not a highsec change. No matter how much you try, this does not make omnilinks unusable. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2811
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:00:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:At the risk of repeating myself, the reasons for the 30s change are:
Reduced server load.
Sentry 'balancing'.
To encourage use of the new drone low-slot mods which will be more "balanced" in terms of bonuses (e.g. TEs versus TCs) thus making the low-slot fixed "generally" bonused low-slot omni-equivalent a valid choice over the 30s to change, all-or-nothing min-maxed Omnis. Which has the "side" effect of DDAs competing with low-slot Omnis and thus reducing drone DPS (aka more balancing,) while also making the new faction DDA's more attractive.
It also opens up the market for specialized drones, e.g. drones with a inherently better than tracking or range as a means of compensating for the 30s inflexibility of the Omni script swaps.
The lower cap use is just a weak attempt to assuage CCP's guilt and mollify/distract the player base.
For bonus karma (negative karma is still karma,) CCP will probably make it so the mid-slot Omnis won't work without a script, ergo, you can either have an Optimal bonus or a Tracking bonus, but not both, thus making the low-slot Omni modules attractive/competitive.
/tin_foil_in_bulk
What is even more galling is the fact that there was nothing about this in the F&I thread, nor dev blogs. This was just some arbitrary change to game play, another huge nerf to drone users, without any warning nor consultation. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3701
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:02:00 -
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Guess who? wrote: another huge nerf to drone users, without any warning nor consultation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfk2wvZAxgc *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21359
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:02:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:This was just some arbitrary change to game play, another huge nerf to drone users Not really, no.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Danny John-Peter
Snuff Box
422
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:05:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:Victor Andall wrote:Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread Just stop. You're awful
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