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K Suri
Red Gooey Bananas
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Posted - 2011.11.16 02:15:00 -
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When the **** is anyone going to be happy around here?!! When you get 3 tech moons and a freakin' Polaris?
**** me... Whining SOB's.... |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
243
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Posted - 2011.11.16 02:21:00 -
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Too many years of neglect to get fixed in one big patch, that's all it is really.
Factional Warfare ...?
How ******* hard is it to put a 4th godsdamn bonus on the AF? FFS it isn't like the frigates are that well thought out anyways, slap something on it and be done with it.
Repair Drones should be able to repair anyone ... really, they should. -áThink of them as the first targetable subsystem if you're worried about PvP and for missions if someone wants Rep drones over a flight of Hobs, who cares. -áThere is no reasonable objection here other than it's always been that way (so was RR until recently). |
SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers
Project Wildfire
37
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Posted - 2011.11.16 02:25:00 -
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fail, hybrids didn't get fixed. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2011.11.16 02:50:00 -
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It's an ok expansion, lots of graphical upgrades and four new ships and a few minor tweaks and annoyances fixed. Hybrids are still a bit iffy and will not be anyones first choice. As for the big things, nothing other than cap nerfs. Null and low-sec remain a big concern and we should begin to wonder if CCP has any real ideas on how to fix it. FW also still needs looking at although we've been promised something soon. PVE, mining and high-sec life remains pretty much the same. Overall there is no REAL new content except V3 graphics and some rebalancing.
5/10 |
Lord Wiggin
Furian Necromongers
12
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Posted - 2011.11.16 03:01:00 -
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Considering they still haven't managed WIS after four years of promises, if you expected a miracle in a few months, you must have crashlanded here recently....
Oh and  at the free implants for current subscribers, if that doesn't tell you they are losing subs, nothing will....
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Stan Smith
Remenent British Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.11.16 03:05:00 -
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Its not like the last expansion where what, 3 things changed? And im sorry ccp didnt make hybrids an iwin button and make huge changes in a few months. Im sure the whole trinity expansion with the new ship skins and stuff wasn't done in 2 or 3 months |
leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.11.16 03:17:00 -
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to all the people saying hybrids didn't get fixed. this was explained to me a while back. they don't want to make hybrids the new FOTM for making any ships fit with them into pwnmobiles, so they are taking it one step at a time.
with this you can at least track targets when they are in your range and with the changes to hulls you can keep up a little better. once they see how that pans out they can change other things accordingly.
other than my initial feeling of being ripped off on the hybrid changes, I'm actually quite pleased with the changes, at least they didn't make people hate them this time around.
so I would say win. |
rodyas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2011.11.16 03:17:00 -
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Everyone seems to have forgotten the supers nerf is anyone excited about that at all? Plus we are getting a free gift implant and maybe more goodies or so. If we dont get more I plan on having another protest movement. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
145
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:39:00 -
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Skaz wrote:I think it's unrealistic to think that this is other than a peacemaking effort, whatever they could cobble together before x-mas. An enticement for people to re-sub and keeping subscribers. It's basically stuff that they had on their to-do list and was easy to do, can't really expect something major changes from that tbh. I do think they've overhyped this one to a degree and it'll **** of those who are coming back expecting something big.
Having said that though they did say something along the line that it was simply that. They would be starting with a small effort as a show of good faith. and continuing with a larger effort next year. Whether that will actually happen, well that remains to be seen.
I'm looking for their announcement of their next expansion. That's the one that will count.
Emphasis added... yah I agree with this. The pressure should be on. This expansion is a peacemaker. The next one is either going to be the dealmaker or dealbreaker I bet. I'll still play (probably) to some small capacity either way, but I won't need multiple accounts to do that if the next one isn't really good...
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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
Care Factor
0
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:54:00 -
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I vote for winter expansion ot be WIN. It's the biggest expansion I've seen since I started playing, as far as fixing bugs goes, hybrid rebalancing and adding new ships and skins! Not to mention the pos fix.
And engine trails are coming back to eve! YAY!
"Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! |
Velicitia
Open Designs
99
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:56:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Skaz wrote:I think it's unrealistic to think that this is other than a peacemaking effort, whatever they could cobble together before x-mas. An enticement for people to re-sub and keeping subscribers. It's basically stuff that they had on their to-do list and was easy to do, can't really expect something major changes from that tbh. I do think they've overhyped this one to a degree and it'll **** of those who are coming back expecting something big.
Having said that though they did say something along the line that it was simply that. They would be starting with a small effort as a show of good faith. and continuing with a larger effort next year. Whether that will actually happen, well that remains to be seen.
I'm looking for their announcement of their next expansion. That's the one that will count. Emphasis added... yah I agree with this. The pressure should be on. This expansion is a peacemaker. The next one is either going to be the dealmaker or dealbreaker I bet. I'll still play (probably) to some small capacity either way, but I won't need multiple accounts to do that if the next one isn't really good...
QFT.
It's a _very_ good bet that this expansion wasn't planned much before the end of summer. It "feels" like a plan B (plan A having been more WiS crap).
I'm not saying this'll be a "bad" expansion -- but there is SIGNIFICANTLY more to be excited about than compared to Incarna. Too bad my PC won't be able to handle all the new shiny in all its glory. |
Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
69
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:57:00 -
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Considering that half the content in this next expansion is worthy of praise. The other half worthy of worship... I feel as though this thread is pointless. Anyone with half a brain can tell you this is a win expansion.
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" |
Tear Miner
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2011.11.16 15:03:00 -
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It appears I've found the mother load of tears.
Nom nom nom nom. |
White Tree
XxBroski North Reloaded Federation NinjaGuldDotxX.
Elite Space Guild
602
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Posted - 2011.11.16 15:05:00 -
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EPIC FAIL or EPIC WINZ LOL XD
**** off nerd. |
I-I
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.16 15:07:00 -
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Showing commitment to getting back on track. WIN! |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
167
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Posted - 2011.11.16 15:56:00 -
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while the art team totally killed it, the patch (not really an expansion) is more or less a total fail. CCP suckered me into coming back, and i did for 4.95, only to realize that AF's, FW, hybrids, nullsec, and all the good stuff wont be fixed for another 6 months, if ever. this patch is all sugarcoating and no substance. |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp
V.A.S.T.
25
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:17:00 -
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Black Dranzer wrote:Sure, I'll be the Devil's Advocate here.
This expansion has a lot of neat stuff. The new ships, lots of neat little fixes, a change of direction, plenty of balance changes, not to mention the extra glitter in the form of nebulae, stars, trails..
.. But all of it is indeed small stuff.
The big problems Eve has right now are with its core. Nullsec needs a revamp. Lowsec needs a revamp. Faction Warfare, Sov, Bounty Hunting, Smuggling, Mining and Industry.
These are the big things, and this expansion won't address any of them.
Crucible is buying time and goodwill. And it'll buy a lot of it.
But the fight isn't even close to over.
Those are big things spiffy. So help me understand whats wrong with them.
~ Null needs a revamp? Why and How?
~ LS Needs a revamp? Why and How?
~ I'll give you Faction, Sov, and Bounty Hunting maybe (the first two need fixed but Bounty Hunting is just stupid anyway)
~ Smuggling? In a Player driven economy why and how?
~ IMO mining and Industry perform as intended, although T2 production is click intensive I hear yet I still see tons of T2 stuff for sale so is it working as intended?
I hear lots of pissing and moaning about this or that and with CCP making an effort to get back on track all you hear is people bellyaching about what they aren't doing. I question some of the things that people say need fixing. There is a difference between what you don't like and what is broken. Until you can summarize your points beyond what you posted you're just making noise.
The sky is blue, the sun is warm, water is wet, grass is green and **** happens. |
Cipher Jones
110
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:28:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:Winter expansion: when is the final part released? The first part (Nov 29th) is not the complete expansion. Absolute **** is this Tempest Fit. well actually its not that bad of an setup concidering lvl III missions the dual 425s are good call.. trimarks well you never know if someone will try to suicide gank you xD hardly this ship tho
I have asked him to come test any of my fits anytime, I guess someone needs to show him how to use a locator agent, and probably front the cash.
Ironically, he has so much faith in me he thinks that my tempest fit from level 3 missions can somehow co-relate to the new expansion. That's pretty ******* flattering to have someone on my **** 23/7 like that.
Eve online is the best game ever. I could never troll someone that hard in WoW and get away with it.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:31:00 -
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IMO the game is in desparate need of offering something to do thats not yet another idiotic afkable activity. I tried playing a couple of weeks ago, got sentimental after a few months of just switching skills. After 5 days of roaming hours at a time I found basically noone undocked. Game full of blockade runners and generic docked alts is no fun so I went back to rift. Which sucks btw. But at least I can do things there that don't come down to jumping around empty space hoping for action that never happens, it has this thing called gameplay.
CCP started ruining the game way before Incarna. It's the unreasonable tendency to produce more and more content that doesn't require being undocked in a serious ship DOING something that's the source of real crisis imo, and I'm honestly not sure how does introducing a few new ships address this, there still won't be anyone undocked. I'd say if they actually went ahead with it and made real serious Incarna with player interaction it would be the equivalent of shooting a dying horse in the head, noone would undock again ever and it would be the end of eve online as we know it. This way at least there's some hope left.
Anyway eve is by far the most captivating game I ever played and I truly honestly hope ccp draws their heads out of their arses and makes it fun again as it used to be when I played whole afternoons and evenings and kept buying new ships to replace lost ones. |
Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:02:00 -
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I'm actually slightly optimistic for this winter expansion. |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:05:00 -
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Win mostly, with a smidge of fail.
F&ID: Skill Training, Agent Finder
What is CCP Guard gonna do with that grenade? |
OT Smithers
Buccaneer's Den
2
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:46:00 -
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Fail
Hybrid Fixes are underwhelming and suggest that the devs making these decisions do not really play or understand the game.
AF's were shelved yet again. EAFs, the least utilized ship class in the game, are apparently not on the radar.
The new BC's sounded interesting, maybe even great, at first. Then they broke them.
The Naga, and specifically the dev comments regarding the reasoning behind the design decisions, shows that the devs do not understand the problems Caldari pilots face, or why no one is actually using their combat ships other than the Drake.
An exciting expansion would be one that shakes things up in game, adding some excitement and variety, and one that showed that the folks at CCP have actually embraced a change in direction. I am seeing instead more of the same. More failed balancing, more dropped promises. |
Minister of Death
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:49:00 -
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Nyio wrote:Win mostly, with a smidge of fail.
agree. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
185
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:50:00 -
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Haters gona hate no mater who CCP promises and does. |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2011.11.16 18:13:00 -
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Lot of great stuff.
Op and his ilk are as usual, pathetic....
Ever see "Comic Book Guy?"
"Worst.Expansion. Ever. |
Rod Blaine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
4
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Posted - 2011.11.16 18:15:00 -
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Fail mostly, with some small win.
CCP went it the easy way (again...things like that simply never change), and simply gave us some shiny beads to distract us (tier 3 bc, you know: the ones all them threads are about) from the fact that it's still all words and no c4ke from Iceland.
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OOooole
nina k Corp
9
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Posted - 2011.11.16 18:16:00 -
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fail
i like solo pvp and there is nothin for me |
Gregor Marethel
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
3
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Posted - 2011.11.16 19:18:00 -
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Gerald Taric wrote:And are there really persons, who expect * A L L * done promisses being packed into one release?
Yes, I do. That's why we call them "promises" instead of calling them "things that may or may not be done". I expect promises to be kept, but perhaps I'm the only one.
This expansion is a baby step in the right direction, it contains a few of the things we've been promised for years, but past experience tells me that as soon as something foolish and shiny appears ccp will chase after it again, leaving us with even more half finished features. |
Jack bubu
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
76
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Posted - 2011.11.16 19:30:00 -
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win
people complaining about the hybrid fix actually dont have a clue and are just hurf blurfing because some bittervets do, and they cant be wrong right?
Small fixes and supercap nerf are very welcome too.
only downside is that there is no "big" feature in the first deployment but they going to do a staged release anyway so vOv
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
240
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Posted - 2011.11.16 20:12:00 -
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I say win.
For the longest time people wanted engine trails and new cynos back and there were threadnaughts about this on the old forums. They are fixed.
CCP fixed CQ so older machines could run it more smoothly with less artifacting.
Time dialation -
4 new ships to change the balance of eve and how we play it.
Hybrid fix - It's a bandage and not a total fix, still needs work but they at least put some time into it, the biggest and best change was the cap usage. But no one noticed that.
starbase fuel pellets. --- I dont know how many have pos towers but FREAKING WIN.
pi changes - I do pi, do you? Im going to be a rich man selling customs offices.
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hybrids still need a little more work. I dont know why so many people are complaining, rails got a decent damage boost which makes caldari rail boats more viable.
The better fitting requirements make it easier to fly gallente ships.
people need to stop fitting oversized AB onto their ships, of course it's going to go slow dumbass, a 100mn ab add the mass of that of your entire fitted ship..
Gallente need just a little bit more love, the speed boost across teh board was nice, but they need to have a natural bonus to mass addition from ab and mwd.
naga needs some more work
pos changes are win.
I am happy with what is coming. |
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