Yes, we must nerf everything to compensate for lousy pilots...

mitigate = unkillable

I move stuff around in a covops a lot, and I run bubble camps like a boss by using bounce points and off-gate warpins. Should covops frigates be nerfed because they're "overpowered?"

If the tengu pilot isn't brain dead or crashes in the righ moment (which has nothing to do with balancing) it is simply impossible to catch him on a gate.

because every cloaky nullified tengu that has been killed (there are lots) was either braindead or crashed upon jump-in

Hey look how bad at EVE you are.


You need 4 ships in a camp to catch this, and gang links might not be a bad idea.


1 ship, a dram, daredevil, or inty is fine, they don't even ever have to lock the guy, their sole function is to decloak the tengu.

1 ship is a hic, he'll want hic 5 for range, script loaded for an infinite point.

2 ships with RSB's and scan res scripts loaded jacking the hics sensor strength up over 3k


If you don't believe that works theres about 3 trillion killboards you can look on to find dead nullified t3's, including mine.

You could also try using your imagination and not just throwing your toys across the room kicking and screaming that it can't be done. I bet you're fat IRL too. You know, because the weight just won't get off when you tell it, you actually have to try something to make it go away.

Yes, we must nerf everything to compensate for lousy pilots...

Here is how you kill them.

Your gatecamp needs to have light interdictors with multiple bubbles. You need to organise them so that when the the t3 jumps in they only drop one bubble, or you anchor a few bubblerss to the gate. The t3 will appear for a split second as it cloaks and starts warping. The second this happens you drop another bubble which will cancel the t3's warp. You have your light dictors drop fresh bubbles every second or so while your interceptors with drones assigned burn for and decloak the t3 before the t3 hits align speed from spamming the warp button in a panic.

This kills the t3.

Here is how you kill them.

Your gatecamp needs to have light interdictors with multiple bubbles. You need to organise them so that when the the t3 jumps in they only drop one bubble, or you anchor a few bubblerss to the gate. The t3 will appear for a split second as it cloaks and starts warping. The second this happens you drop another bubble which will cancel the t3's warp. You have your light dictors drop fresh bubbles every second or so while your interceptors with drones assigned burn for and decloak the t3 before the t3 hits align speed from spamming the warp button in a panic.

This kills the t3.

That's a really cool little trick.

I'm glad my mates will think I thought of it.

Since CCP has devoted their time to fixing alot of things have been very annoying and bad in the last years. I think it is time that they also look at one of the most stupid decisions they have probably made.

Except DPS they make no sacrifice. People can tackle, scout and tank with these ships at the same time.

In travel they are practically invulnerable. With an insta-safes they will get out of every single station, even in 0.0. If you happen to actually tackle on at a station the ******** ehp will let him easily redock (if they happen to undock at a bad angle on kickouts they can ctrl-space and redock).

To actually catch one on a gate you need a good hour of setting up can (which will be petioned). You need enough DPS and effective tackle so they do not make it back to the gate.

Despite the scanning changes they can still sit around being practically unscannable, in some cases even run missions or plexes while being totally immune.

It takes almost no effort to fly these ships through any space.

Especially the Tengu is just totally overpwoered. Not taking its PvE abilities into account its agility allows it to even warp out if it randomly happens to get decloaked.

I think its time that this issue gets addressed.