| Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Drone 16
Law Dogz
174
   |
Posted - 2014.05.03 12:53:00 -
[61] - Quote
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:I'll let Fozzie explain this in more details, but in short, no, dreads and carriers won't make it into high-sec. I have to call this into question. Cap ships in empire mesh a little too neatly with a lot of the other initiatives going forward.
maybe he means that if a freighter carrying one is ganked the cap ship wont drop and if you try to unload it into a hi-sec station or POS "Scotty" won't allow it leave the cargo hold.
It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits |
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
527
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 13:08:00 -
[62] - Quote
Clem Dals wrote:So with the new ability to be able to rig freighters, they will be able to cross the threshold of 1 million m3, and therefore be able to take packaged carriers and dreadnoughts into hisec. Has this been considered and will the rules relating to capital ships in hisec be changed?
Where's that information from, that Freighters will become riggable? |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1437
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 13:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
fan fest stream...
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Bob Billyson
Tayto Truck
5
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 14:06:00 -
[64] - Quote
They did state that they would also "Rebalance" them in addition to giving them rigs.. so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what sort of insanity they bring forth.
With the increase in Fuel costs for Jump freighters, I can't really see them nerfing the cargo capacity as well.
The way I see it though, there's only a limited amount of the rigs you'll want to use for the freighters. Either increasing the align time, increasing cargo hold, or increasing the amount of hull (The amount of shield and armor on them are pretty much irrelevant).
In the end it'll be a contest between cargo capacity, align time and quickness or pure survivability in terms of EHP. Passive hull tanking will be a thing.
And I believe there may be a warp speed rig... but with how extremely slow they move, I don't know if using those would be worth it... |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3440
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 14:57:00 -
[65] - Quote
Bob Billyson wrote:With the increase in Fuel costs for Jump freighters, I can't really see them nerfing the cargo capacity as well.
I wouldn't pin my hopes to that...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Feyrin
Unforeseen Consequences.
The Unthinkables
17
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 16:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Just confirmed by fozzie anything that does not fit in a freighter now will have volume increased so that it does not fit after changes. A fully rigged freight with cargo rigs will have a larger capacity than currently. |
Feyrin
Unforeseen Consequences.
The Unthinkables
17
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 16:11:00 -
[67] - Quote
Essentially 2 rigs will have same capacity as currently 3rd will increase beyond current level. Jump freighter only has 2 rig slots. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1438
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 16:23:00 -
[68] - Quote
Feyrin wrote:Essentially 2 rigs will have same capacity as currently 3rd will increase beyond current level. Jump freighter only has 2 rig slots.
so its both. they have their base cargo nerfed but are capable of going beyond.
are any other stats changed? speed, hit points etc
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Feyrin
Unforeseen Consequences.
The Unthinkables
17
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 16:54:00 -
[69] - Quote
No specifics but the disparity in capacity is being reduced and current racial flavours are being maintained.
|
Feyrin
Unforeseen Consequences.
The Unthinkables
17
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 16:57:00 -
[70] - Quote
It is a complete rebalance so all stats are being looked at. There may also be new capital rigs specifically for freighter which open up new game play possibilities |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1438
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 17:03:00 -
[71] - Quote
cool. cheers for hounding whomever u are hounding.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3444
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 19:18:00 -
[72] - Quote
Feyrin wrote:It is a complete rebalance so all stats are being looked at. There may also be new capital rigs specifically for freighter which open up new game play possibilities
I hear an isotope consumption reduction might be popular... 
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
834
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 19:39:00 -
[73] - Quote
So after Fozzy talk
Freighters are going to need 2 rigs to be near now but better for cargo
The 3rd rig absolutely will give more cargo
So 2 cargo rigs or maybe a t2, hes not sure, and then hull rigs to troll gankers |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3444
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 19:59:00 -
[74] - Quote
NEONOVUS wrote:So after Fozzy talk
Freighters are going to need 2 rigs to be near now but better for cargo
The 3rd rig absolutely will give more cargo
So 2 cargo rigs or maybe a t2, hes not sure, and then hull rigs to troll gankers
Did they address the issue raised with respect to transporting carriers and dreadnoughts into high-sec?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
834
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 20:23:00 -
[75] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:So after Fozzy talk
Freighters are going to need 2 rigs to be near now but better for cargo
The 3rd rig absolutely will give more cargo
So 2 cargo rigs or maybe a t2, hes not sure, and then hull rigs to troll gankers Did they address the issue raised with respect to transporting carriers and dreadnoughts into high-sec?
Yes and no
Yes it was talked about, no it is not ready for game
The changes for the freighters are ready now though so that plan is going forward anyways |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3445
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 22:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
NEONOVUS wrote:Yes and no
Yes it was talked about, no it is not ready for game
The changes for the freighters are ready now though so that plan is going forward anyways
So they're going to allow transport - just not assembly or something?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Feyrin
Unforeseen Consequences.
The Unthinkables
18
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 22:19:00 -
[77] - Quote
No anything you cannot carry now you cannot carry afterwards because the volume will be increased. |
Bohneik Itohn
Periphery Bound
51
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 23:37:00 -
[78] - Quote
All high sec factions have capital ships added to their contraband list. Carry one into high sec and get the contraband treatment....
Sounds simple enough.... |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13116
|
Posted - 2014.05.03 23:45:00 -
[79] - Quote
What do rig slots on freighters mean?
It means that 75% of freighter pilots will fit cargo rigs.
20% will simply leave the ships unrigged.
1% will fit tank rigs.
4% will run to the forums and cry that they didn't get 10 lowslots and 40000 calibration points as well.
99% of freighters will still be gankable, many with fewer ships required to do so.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3221
|
Posted - 2014.05.04 00:34:00 -
[80] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:What do rig slots on freighters mean?
It means that 75% of freighter pilots will fit cargo rigs.
20% will simply leave the ships unrigged.
1% will fit tank rigs.
4% will run to the forums and cry that they didn't get 10 lowslots and 40000 calibration points as well.
99% of freighters will still be gankable, many with fewer ships required to do so.
No way... I bet the number of unrigged freighters, especially in highsec, is more like 70%. People who can afford jump freighters typically use them. If they are flying a T1 freighter than the chances are a lot higher that's all they can afford, and cap rigs aren't cheap. 20% of jumpfreighter unrigged? probably less than that. 20% of freighters? Way more than that.
|
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3446
|
Posted - 2014.05.04 00:36:00 -
[81] - Quote
Gogela wrote:No way... I bet the number of unrigged freighters, especially in highsec, is more like 70%. People who can afford jump freighters typically use them. If they are flying a T1 freighter than the chances are a lot higher that's all they can afford, and cap rigs aren't cheap. 20% of jumpfreighter unrigged? probably less than that. 20% of freighters? Way more than that.
So freighters are getting a fuel use and cargo capacity nerf then...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3221
|
Posted - 2014.05.04 00:43:00 -
[82] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Gogela wrote:No way... I bet the number of unrigged freighters, especially in highsec, is more like 70%. People who can afford jump freighters typically use them. If they are flying a T1 freighter than the chances are a lot higher that's all they can afford, and cap rigs aren't cheap. 20% of jumpfreighter unrigged? probably less than that. 20% of freighters? Way more than that. So freighters are getting a fuel use and cargo capacity nerf then...
I hadn't heard about fuel use, but yah they are getting a cargo capacity nerf. 2 cap cargohold optimizations = slightly above the cargo capacity they have now. 3 cargo rigs bump it up to around 1.5 million m3 capacity @ V. With regards to fuel nerf... meh who cares? So it's more expensive to jump... if they nerfed jump range, that would be another matter.
|
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility
971
|
Posted - 2014.05.04 01:33:00 -
[83] - Quote
Confirming everything posted above me was actually discussed today with Fozzie 1on1 at the round table for a good chunk of time.
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Dxella
Licentia Ex Vereor
Black Core Alliance
4
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 10:35:00 -
[84] - Quote
ZehNarume wrote:Clem Dals wrote:Hairpins Blueprint wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:I'll let Fozzie explain this in more details, but in short, no, dreads and carriers won't make it into high-sec. wonder if you could hauld lvl 5 sov upgrades with JF's now? I would think so. A Rhea at 367,969m3 base with skills at level 5 should be able to hit 577,497m3 with 3 Tech 2 Cargohold Optimization rigs. A Charon at 981,250m3 base will skills at level 5 should be at 1,539,991m3 with 3 Tech 2 Cargohold Optimization rigs. If my napkin math is correct, and nothing else changes ;) A Rhea is a tech 2 ship, therefore it will only have 2 rig slots.
yes and also, he didnt include Calibration costs.
T1 Capital Cargohold Optimization rigs takes 100 cal each
T2 Capital Cargohold Optimization rigs takes 150 cal each
Most ships if not all have a set calibration at 400.
so you will only be able to fit 2x Tech 2 and 1x Tech 1 Capital Cargohold Optimization rig on a regular Freigther.
Also for the No dreads, carriers and rorq's in HS. Thats easy to fix,
they will just increase the repackaged m3 amount of the capitals,
that way a freigther will not be able to carry them and aswell they should not take more m3 is storage arrays in POS's.
Unless recently built, but they could just increase the repackaged m3 by the dubble and it wouldnt be to big issue. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
490
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 10:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
Btw... I noticed that the other day on my JF: Why don't they have the normal racial T2 resistance profile? A Zealot has with some skills 50/35/60/80. The Ark 50/35/25/28, which is only better in the Explo department compared to the Providence.
Why does this inconsistency exist? |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11404
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 11:24:00 -
[86] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Btw... I noticed that the other day on the JF: Why don't they have the normal racial T2 resistance profile? A Zealot has with some skills 50/35/60/80. The Ark 50/35/25/28, which is only better in the Explo department compared to the Providence.
Why does this inconsistency exist?
Its a capital, adding more resists results in huge buffs to its ehp.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
490
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 11:31:00 -
[87] - Quote
JF don't have most of their HP in Shield or Armor. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11406
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 11:46:00 -
[88] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:JF don't have most of their HP in Shield or Armor.
Doesnt matter, it would still be a big jump.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
490
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 11:53:00 -
[89] - Quote
Is that a problem? |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11406
|
Posted - 2014.05.10 12:02:00 -
[90] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Is that a problem?
Yes it is.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |