Someone posted that TQ lost 4000 subs over last year.
I have found no citation for that, but it feels right

the basis of all of dinsdale's thought: "the voices in my head said this, i can't verify it, but it must be true"

honestly could care less.

Over the years I have actively read about all the candidates and voted but this year I found I just could not care less.

None of the candidates really stood out from the crowd and to be honest for me it made no difference who got simply because they were more or less all the same.

Nothing surprises me anymore.

Looks good enough, not too many suprises.

Thought it might be Psychotic Monk's year this time though.

We even called our voting list "Down with highsec" heh.

I guess you get to crawl about in the dirt for another 12 months.

Oh grow up for god's sake.

Our votes went to Corebloodbrothers as his campaign statement said he would work to make the results of any CSM advice more democratic. To my mind that meant less null-centric but knowing my luck he might have meant the other way around ?

As in RL if you don't vote you can't complain. That's what I say anyway.

if you want it to be less null-centric, maybe the people outside of null sec should vote more. you know, democracy and all.

Our ballot gets more effective each year coordinating with other groups.

Its almost like learning from the past and adapting behavior for optimal results is a good thing.
Or you could just shoot at rocks under concord protection all day and hope the bleating gets you something.

Or you could spam the forms and hope your bleating gets you something.

Oh the goons do that already

I really wish voting was monitored by a third party. I do vote, everyone I know votes, all our alts vote, and not one of them voted for a single goon. Granted, that's hardly proof, and frankly I'm eternally suspicious of CCP since they regularly manipulate the sandbox, then claim necessity or pretend it was an accident, and alternatively admit/deny their association with major alliances, who typically directly benefit from CCP actions and/or foreknowledge of CCP plans that the rest of us are not privy to.

CSM minutes? Sure, once everything in them are long over. New pirate ships? Yes, available everywhere, but cheaper for Goonswarm! Elections? All goon votes count double. and their serfs better vote their way if they know what's good for them!

Goonswarm and the CFC comprise some 30,000-odd votes. This is just a ballpark number, but hopefully it gives you an idea of why you, everyone you know, and your alts (which probably comes to no more than 500 votes, and that's being generous) aren't really passing muster when it comes to highsec being "organized." And additionally, you'd need to have a ballot that was filled up; if you had one hisec messiah to vote for and that's it, guess what? You'd have one hisec carebear messiah on the CSM, and the rest of the election results would go the same as they did this time.

So, if you actually want to change the general election results, you'd have to

- Get organized. Hisec has a huge theoretical player base.
- Get motivated. You need a lot of candidates to replace the ones you don't like, which means a lot of people willing to invest time into the game.

Of course, neither of these will actually happen. Most bears live in hisec so that they DON'T have to coordinate with other players or be particularly motivated about anything in the game. Just don't be surprised that the organized and motivated groups tend to come out on top.

Goonswarm and the CFC comprise some 30,000-odd votes. This is just a ballpark number, but hopefully it gives you an idea of why you, everyone you know, and your alts (which probably comes to no more than 500 votes, and that's being generous) aren't really passing muster when it comes to highsec being "organized." And additionally, you'd need to have a ballot that was filled up; if you had one hisec messiah to vote for and that's it, guess what? You'd have one hisec carebear messiah on the CSM, and the rest of the election results would go the same as they did this time.

So, if you actually want to change the general election results, you'd have to

- Get organized. Hisec has a huge theoretical player base.
- Get motivated. You need a lot of candidates to replace the ones you don't like, which means a lot of people willing to invest time into the game.

Of course, neither of these will actually happen. Most bears live in hisec so that they DON'T have to coordinate with other players or be particularly motivated about anything in the game. Just don't be surprised that the organized and motivated groups tend to come out on top.

I really wish voting was monitored by a third party. I do vote, everyone I know votes, all our alts vote, and not one of them voted for a single goon. Granted, that's hardly proof, and frankly I'm eternally suspicious of CCP since they regularly manipulate the sandbox, then claim necessity or pretend it was an accident, and alternatively admit/deny their association with major alliances, who typically directly benefit from CCP actions and/or foreknowledge of CCP plans that the rest of us are not privy to.

CSM minutes? Sure, once everything in them are long over. New pirate ships? Yes, available everywhere, but cheaper for Goonswarm! Elections? All goon votes count double. and their serfs better vote their way if they know what's good for them!

Looks like one of our behaviors is working too eh?

I really wish voting was monitored by a third party. I do vote, everyone I know votes, all our alts vote, and not one of them voted for a single goon. Granted, that's hardly proof, and frankly I'm eternally suspicious of CCP since they regularly manipulate the sandbox, then claim necessity or pretend it was an accident, and alternatively admit/deny their association with major alliances, who typically directly benefit from CCP actions and/or foreknowledge of CCP plans that the rest of us are not privy to.

CSM minutes? Sure, once everything in them are long over. New pirate ships? Yes, available everywhere, but cheaper for Goonswarm! Elections? All goon votes count double. and their serfs better vote their way if they know what's good for them!

Or you could spam the forms and hope your bleating gets you something.

Oh the goons do that already