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Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2326	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:40:00 - [91] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Aryth wrote: Our ballot gets more effective each year coordinating with other groups. Its almost like learning from the past and adapting behavior for optimal results is a good thing. Or you could just shoot at rocks under concord protection all day and hope the bleating gets you something. Or you could spam the forms and hope your bleating gets you something. Oh the goons do that already You pubbies started it, you should have known better than to start a forum war against a forum community. Hey mom. it was him wot stared it not me This is not a signature.
Dave Stark 5249	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:07:00 - [92] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Dave Stark wrote: if you want it to be less null-centric, maybe the people outside of null sec should vote more. you know, democracy and all. I really wish voting was monitored by a third party. I do vote, everyone I know votes, all our alts vote, and not one of them voted for a single goon. Granted, that's hardly proof, and frankly I'm eternally suspicious of CCP since they regularly manipulate the sandbox, then claim necessity or pretend it was an accident, and alternatively admit/deny their association with major alliances, who typically directly benefit from CCP actions and/or foreknowledge of CCP plans that the rest of us are not privy to. CSM minutes? Sure, once everything in them are long over. New pirate ships? Yes, available everywhere, but cheaper for Goonswarm! Elections? All goon votes count double. and their serfs better vote their way if they know what's good for them! The tinfoil in this post is several meters thick and reinforced with even more tinfoil. so... don't stick it in the microwave?
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:58:00 - [93] - Quote La Nariz wrote: You pubbies started it, you should have known better than to start a forum war against a forum community. Time for a quick history lesson: The ONLY alliance to ever bring down the forum by spamming threads until the forum software died? Goonswarm. Now, you were saying? Rhes wrote: Or just let us handle things. Everything we advocate for is better for goonswarm as a whole. Fixed. The simple solution would be for one vote per player, as opposed to one vote per account.
Pubbie Spy GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 34	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:14:00 - [94] - Quote Rhes wrote: Or just let us handle things. Everything we advocate for is better for the game as a whole. Surprisingly, this is actually true most of the time.
Pubbie Spy GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 34	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:15:00 - [95] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Enlighten me, what have the goons 'persuaded' CCP' to do, that they would not have otherwise done? I suspect that goons try to take credit where none is due. We find an overpowered or exploitable game mechanic. :ccp: keeps ignoring the problem. We run that **** into the ground and smugpost about it on the forum and our CSMs tell :ccp: to fix it. :ccp: fixes it and predictably takes our stuff away.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4865	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:30:00 - [96] - Quote Lol my old CEO and corp founder is in CSM now. Who would have seen that coming? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5734	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:33:00 - [97] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Lol my old CEO and corp founder is in CSM now. Who would have seen that coming? sigh I'll bite. Which one? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:39:00 - [98] - Quote Pubbie Spy wrote: Rhes wrote: Or just let us handle things. Everything we advocate for is better for the game as a whole. Surprisingly, this is actually true most of the time. There are occasional agree with goonswarms position, goons will be the death of eve. Two basic reasons for this: One, eve requires conflict. Any sufficiently large alliance has a chilling effect on large scale conflict, no matter how PvP oriented, simply by nature. The bigger and more obviously favored the alliance and it's assorted hangers on are, the fewer competitors will attempt to confront them. Eve would be better served if alliances were hard limited at about 500 characters. It would only delay things, but it would hamper the rise of the sort of super alliances we see in other servers, and that goonswarm and it's allies are gradually evolving into Eventually it reaches a point where the only scenario in which a viable adversary comes along is something like happened in China where the super alliance splits due to internal drama. The second reason is that goons generally have an 'Us vs Them' view of High sec, and promote a agenda to pretty much nerf high sec into non existance. The reality is for Eve to continue to flourish and attract new players, both areas have to be developed equally. The basic truth is that players quit rather than change their play styles when a game tries to force it on them, and CCP needs income. So high sec needs love just as much as null does in order for the game to continue to be developed. You can claim that eve is better off without those players, but CCP is not better off without that subscription money. A lot of people might diss Dinsdale, but the overarching tendency to favor nullsec more and more is getting pretty marked, and it's going to eventually reach a tipping point where people start unsubbing. Maybe not all at once or right away, and I can't say if his numbers are right, but think on this: server concurrency has been stagnate for some time, reguardless of subscription numbers. Worse, in the same stretch, other games concurrency have been increasing. Hell, TOR has even made bigger gains, percentage wise.
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 15279	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:43:00 - [99] - Quote Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Maybe you should suggest that CCP should use a new voting system for CSM10: the Single Transferrable Whine system. For every petulant, entitled, self-centred and useless post you make - on any forum - about the CSM process, you get a vote. This system should ensure your hegemony in eternity. If you mouthy oxygen thieves put 1% of the effort into participating that you do into complaining about not winning when you, er, didn't participate, you'd crush the goons and hear the lamentations of their waifus. But no. For a year I have had to read over and over and over again the same old complaint "CCP expect me to actually put some effort into researching who I want to vote for and then as well expect me to go to all the trouble of voting again. And also other people are allowed to vote for people I don't like, what the hell? A bloo bloo ******* hoo." Well here's the truth, buttercups: the following people are glad as hell that all you do is cry instead of voting: (1) Me (2) People who care about the game Stay useless, idiots. We need you to. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 15287	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:46:00 - [100] - Quote Incidentally to save you Moaning Myrtles the trouble of actually clicking a button, I have reported the above post to ISD for lack of respect towards other forums users. Consider it my last act on your behalf as a player rep. I. Plead. Guilty. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5737	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:47:00 - [101] - Quote Did... did he just make a Harry Potter reference? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 5313	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:49:00 - [102] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Incidentally to save you Moaning Myrtles the trouble of actually clicking a button, I have reported the above post to ISD for lack of respect towards other forums users. Consider it my last act on your behalf as a player rep. I. Plead. Guilty. Classy to the end.. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1919	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:52:00 - [103] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Incidentally to save you Moaning Myrtles the trouble of actually clicking a button, I have reported the above post to ISD for lack of respect towards other forums users. Consider it my last act on your behalf as a player rep. I. Plead. Guilty. I <3 you Malcanis, sad you didnt run this year. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Marsha Mallow 469	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:52:00 - [104] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Incidentally to save you Moaning Myrtles the trouble of actually clicking a button, I have reported the above post to ISD for lack of respect towards other forums users. Consider it my last act on your behalf as a player rep. I. Plead. Guilty. Well, on behalf of those who appreciate the effort put in over the last year: thank you. You did a good job and it is appreciated. Don't take too long a break TO THE RIPARDMOBILE!
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:53:00 - [105] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Um, Malcanis, that was sort of the point. Everyone I knew voted AGAINST the guys we got, and goons pointed out that it DID NOT MATTER because their alliance and co voted that way, and that was 30k votes.
Marsha Mallow 469	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:53:00 - [106] - Quote Cygnet Lythanea wrote: goons will be the death of eve. Taking their time about it aren't they? TO THE RIPARDMOBILE!
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 7273	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:54:00 - [107] - Quote Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Malcanis wrote: Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Um, Malcanis, that was sort of the point. Everyone I knew voted AGAINST the guys we got, and goons pointed out that it DID NOT MATTER because their alliance and co voted that way, and that was 30k votes. you're a highseccer everyone you know is you and your cat Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5737	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:56:00 - [108] - Quote Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Malcanis wrote: Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Um, Malcanis, that was sort of the point. Everyone I knew voted AGAINST the guys we got, and goons pointed out that it DID NOT MATTER because their alliance and co voted that way, and that was 30k votes. In which case, democracy is working. Get more friends, and get organized. That or kiss the ring, your choice. But quit crying about "my vote didn't matter". Whether it does or not is up to you. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 15288	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:00:00 - [109] - Quote Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Malcanis wrote: Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Um, Malcanis, that was sort of the point. Everyone I knew voted AGAINST the guys we got, and goons pointed out that it DID NOT MATTER because their alliance and co voted that way, and that was 30k votes. No it wasn't you bad-at-maths liar. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Penguinizer Illat Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 5	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:00:00 - [110] - Quote Cygnet Lythanea wrote: [quote=Malcanis] Um, Malcanis, that was sort of the point. Everyone I knew voted AGAINST the guys we got, and goons pointed out that it DID NOT MATTER because their alliance and co voted that way, and that was 30k votes. So you failed to organize enough people? You could talk to people outside of your alliance and alts, you could get people interested. You could try to reach people that might not have even known that there was an election.

Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 15293	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:06:00 - [111] - Quote So yeah, here's the thing. I've just come back from FanFest X. I had a really good time. I went to some panels and presentations and whatnot (btw: apologies for the craptastic CSM panel; there was supposed to be a presentation and stats and facts and such, but there was apparently a technical difficulty, so we got stranded in "So... er... any questions?" mode). I spent most of my time talking to other EVE players. Not just devs, not just CSM people, mostly just ordinary EVE (and some DUST) players. Here's a thing I discovered that you need to know: there are players out there who genuinely like this game. They're able to combine scepticism with enthusiasm. They can see the upsides of change as well as downsides. You can discuss development with them, and even people who are worried that their current profession is threatened or challenged can have a sensible conversation about how to adapt and even profit. It's possible. Who knew? Many thanks for the free holiday "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 15293	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:08:00 - [112] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Malcanis wrote: Incidentally to save you Moaning Myrtles the trouble of actually clicking a button, I have reported the above post to ISD for lack of respect towards other forums users. Consider it my last act on your behalf as a player rep. I. Plead. Guilty. Well, on behalf of those who appreciate the effort put in over the last year: thank you. You did a good job and it is appreciated. Don't take too long a break You told me that you regretted voting for me before the election was even over! Anyway the moral is: never read forums. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5741	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:09:00 - [113] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Anyway the moral is: never read forums. More like never take them to heart. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility 3165	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:09:00 - [114] - Quote Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Malcanis wrote: Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Um, Malcanis, that was sort of the point. Everyone I knew voted AGAINST the guys we got, and goons pointed out that it DID NOT MATTER because their alliance and co voted that way, and that was 30k votes. didn't stop my candidates getting elected
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:10:00 - [115] - Quote Weaselior wrote: you're a highseccer everyone you know is you and your cat Tell you what, next time I blow past goons in null, I want you guys put up a thread titled 'Highseccer made us look like bitches'. We'll see how fast you change what part of space I live in. Which is all of them, pretty much. I don't actually stay in any one place very long, Fountain and Aridia were about the longest...
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility 3165	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:11:00 - [116] - Quote Malcanis wrote: I've just come back from FanFest X. I had a really good time good. thanks for being csm for us
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity 3910	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:11:00 - [117] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Anyway the moral is: never read forums. http://stockfresh.com/files/l/lisafx/m/76/768278_stock-photo-businessman---on-the-nose.jpg "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á *FREE THE JITA 1*
Marsha Mallow 469	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:17:00 - [118] - Quote Malcanis wrote: You told me that you regretted voting for me before the election was even over! Anyway the moral is: never read forums. I lied Just stick to one. And don't read them sober. Same as playing! TO THE RIPARDMOBILE!
Alphea Abbra Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda 751	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:21:00 - [119] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Is it really so ******* hard for you people to understand that actually ****** voting* will generally increase your chances of seeing the candidates you want get elected? Maybe you should suggest that CCP should use a new voting system for CSM10: the Single Transferrable Whine system. For every petulant, entitled, self-centred and useless post you make - on any forum - about the CSM process, you get a vote. This system should ensure your hegemony in eternity. If you mouthy oxygen thieves put 1% of the effort into participating that you do into complaining about not winning when you, er, didn't participate, you'd crush the goons and hear the lamentations of their waifus. But no. For a year I have had to read over and over and over again the same old complaint "CCP expect me to actually put some effort into researching who I want to vote for and then as well expect me to go to all the trouble of voting again. And also other people are allowed to vote for people I don't like, what the hell? A bloo bloo ******* hoo." Well here's the truth, buttercups: the following people are glad as hell that all you do is cry instead of voting: (1) Me (2) People who care about the game Stay useless, idiots. We need you to. CSM of my heart. Beautiful rant.
Sibyyl 651	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:22:00 - [120] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Incidentally to save you Moaning Myrtles the trouble of actually clicking a button, I have reported the above post to ISD for lack of respect towards other forums users. Consider it my last act on your behalf as a player rep. I. Plead. Guilty. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI



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