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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:08:00 -
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The font and all it's problems only appeared when they CHANGED it from the original font.
CCP COULD roll back, or change to a different font that supports the unicode, that also is legible, or ignore the paying customers and chance losing subscribtions as a few pointed out.
The game involves a LOT of reading of ingame menu's, so logic indicates that the provided font be legible at the settings allowed by the game. Currently the paying customers have to use the largest size and widest spacing to read the font (or buy a huge expensive monitor and uber vidcard, not a reasonable expectation "we could fix the font, but why dont you spend your hard earned income on hardware instead". Seems very wrong even to a non-gamer (people surveyed as they dropped in to visit me at home).
I would return a book that was printed in an unreadable font, but with Eve, suspension of the account until they correct the problem is the only alternative. (this means less incoming cash to CCP. My account may not be squat, but a few hundred, if not thousands of accounts does ammount to a sizable chunck of CASH. Remember, most dissatisfied customers never say a word, they just leave and never return.)
CCP, fire the font master, spank the font master, givem a wedgy, but for the love of arknor, FIX THE DAMNED FONT!
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Del ReyII
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:18:00 -
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Just as a matter of interest I had a screenshot from Coldwar (aug '05) time, and decided to compare that with todays fonts. I only have the skill sheet at the moment but will serve as an example. Both were set to normal mode. Condensed is virtually unreadable in RMR.
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Image 2
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Vargrh
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:33:00 -
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I think there must be a lot of Caldari haters in the dev team, as each successive patch seems to have something negative in store for the Caldari ship class.
I've been reviewing the changes to the precision cruise misile and it now does less damage then a standard precision and has no speed bonus over the standard (testing with wraith)...
Surely the point of the tech II would be increased rather then reduced damage output, increased range and increased speed... post patch we have none of this.
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Ikyon
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ikyon on 24/05/2006 13:39:42
Bug report filed where corporations are facing a potential security threat where minerals in supposedly read-only corporation hangars can be used for building.
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Gorf King
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:44:00 -
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I can't get any linkage from the left-hand chat window pane - can't get info on char portraits, no r-click menu to gang, warp to, etc., URLs aren't active, items posted to window aren't active.
Also, no music kicks in after the accel gate(s) to dead space missions.
Bug report filed, natch.
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:01:00 -
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This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Gorf King
Also, no music kicks in after the accel gate(s) to dead space missions.
I consider that a fix, actually... always annoyed the heck outta me while playing with no music, every time I used one of those gate I had to turn off music again.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:14:00 -
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Ok, I have to ask this really I do....Every patch expansion its the same "CCP ruined the font" But for the life of me I can not see it. I have looked in game...I have looked here at work....I have looked at linked screen shots...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE USEING? What type of monitor? What video card? Are you hooked into a plasma screen? I have never had an issue with the fonts...NEVER.
Work: 15" standard Dell monitor no special graphics.
Home: 21" HP with Gforce vid card with 256mb on board ram.
Fess up people....
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
Could CCP please show us what they see with the new font on their system? Normal text width, medium settings and some long text like in ship description please.
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Could CCP please show us what they see with the new font on their system? Normal text width, medium settings and some long text like in ship description please.
There is no new font. The font on TQ today is the same as the one being used last week. I already asked the Programmer who works on the font 3 times if it has been changed.
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
btw, who on the dev team got the bright idea that putting freetype2 technology into a game? Sure the technology itself is wonderful, but its far from perfect, especially performance wise. You all claim that it was for making the client unicode, but that was certainly possible using the bitmap font system, which as you may know, is a hell of alot better performance wise. Even tho around the CWE time period you guys were changing the UI framework (from what i can remember) but I think the workloads would have been the same either way. The bitmap way would have also saved you 6 months worth of problems with us lot and we would have still gotten to keep our old font...
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Arigato
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Arigato on 24/05/2006 14:33:26
Dern ALTS!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:33:00 -
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I'm not going to read 5 pages of topics - this is just what I've noticed so far:
All of these assume large text mode, untested on other modes:
o 1/4 second lag when switching chat windows (very irritating when having to watch gang/local/corp/alliance)
o links in chat don't work if they span 2 lines
o bookmark links don't work anymore
o The mouse-over high-lighting of people's names has gone in the chat windows
o links are now no-longer underlined
o apparently, the dreading & bug is back when copying links from the client.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tachy
There is an easy fix for this EVE-only problem.
Buy a new monitor.
I prefer to terminate my account. 
Over a font problem? Come on... if life havent treated you worse than this yet, you have something coming up. 
I refuse to pay money every month to spoil my eyes. 
I read all this... and then I read this...
Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
And all I can say is, Jenny... Can I have your stuff?
Originally by: Sarmaul
I'm not going to read 5 pages of topics - this is just what I've noticed so far:
All of these assume large text mode, untested on other modes:
o 1/4 second lag when switching chat windows (very irritating when having to watch gang/local/corp/alliance)
o links in chat don't work if they span 2 lines
o bookmark links don't work anymore
o The mouse-over high-lighting of people's names has gone in the chat windows
o links are now no-longer underlined
o apparently, the dreading & bug is back when copying links from the client.
The links aren't underlined... but they're orange while everything else is white. Why that would matter is still unknown to me. However, the links going to mroe than one line thing is the same for me as well... they don't work. I can't see how a quarter of a second lag would be annoying. It literally takes longer to switch over to each channel. Snap your fingers and the time it takes you to hear the sound is a quarter of a second. As for the higlighting somebody's name, it was working fine for me.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/05/2006 14:44:51
Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
The text looks different though. Did you change the horizontal spacing between characters perhaps?
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Kim Chee
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Flyyn
Ok, I have to ask this really I do....Every patch expansion its the same "CCP ruined the font" But for the life of me I can not see it. I have looked in game...I have looked here at work....I have looked at linked screen shots...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE USEING? What type of monitor?
It's not what people are using to display it, it's the eyes they're using to look at it. Just like some people can read upside-down, and others can't; or some people can read prose with missing letters or words without really noticing it. The RMR font changed the shape of the characters, as well as their relative spacing. To some people, it just looked different. To others, it now causes eye-strain trying to resolve them.
A very low dot-pitch display will help avoid blur due to pixels landing between the phosphors (or whatever LCD panels use), but I believe it's still the change to the shape that's causing most of the trouble.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.24 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
I can't see how a quarter of a second lag would be annoying. It literally takes longer to switch over to each channel. Snap your fingers and the time it takes you to hear the sound is a quarter of a second. As for the higlighting somebody's name, it was working fine for me.
it might have been longer than 1/4 second. all i know is that it wasn't there before and it is defintly noticable and very annoying when you want/need to switch between channels quickly
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Dillon Braveheart
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Posted - 2006.05.24 15:32:00 -
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Drones will no longer auto-target gang or corp members if that member has been aggressively flagged to you recently.
Drones are NOT fixed they still keep attacking my gang/Corp mates
prolly posted already but didnt wanna read as i got a headache
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.24 16:15:00 -
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Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.24 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
Does this mean that CCP relys solely on our rants to get things "known" or fixed?
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
Does this mean that CCP relys solely on our rants to get things "known" or fixed?
No, but customer feedback ALWAYS helps.
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Clavius XIV
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Posted - 2006.05.24 17:44:00 -
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Drone orbit velocity bug is in:
Drone navigation impacts drone orbit speed as well as their mwd speed, as a result training drone navigation reduces drone damage. This was fixed shortly after RMR, then it crept back in and hasn't been fixed.
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
Does this mean that CCP relys solely on our rants to get things "known" or fixed?
No, but customer feedback ALWAYS helps.
How long have you been playing this game? CCP talks a good game about listening to their customers but the bug fixing proves otherwise.
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Ab Tallen
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Posted - 2006.05.24 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font.
I'm stumped.
I don't have access to the machine where I use the condensed font setting right now, but I compared screenshots from before and after the patch at home, with the font set to 10pix/normal at 1152x864x32 in an attempt to prove there was a change: It's absolutely the same. 
The font on minimized stacks seems to be different, though: I have the impression it was compressed and brighter before the patch.
Also, the font in general doesn't work too well on a black background: As far as I can see, characters have a dark shadow, which works well on bright backgrounds, but makes it look very thin otherwise. The antialiasing doesn't help there either.
Can I be so confused? I'll decide when I have compared screenshots on the box I used yesterday when I wrote the font was changed 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:12:00 -
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The font is unchanged. It is still the same badly designed font.
The way it is presentated has been changed.
Just look at the system name in the upper left corner.
The 'Current System' and the system name are now glued together. That didn't happen before the bugfix ...
There are little changes like that all over.
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siliconix
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:24:00 -
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It seems the memoryleak that lots of people suffered from in rmr patch, is now hitting me as well, just noticed exefile.exe using like 600 megs of memory.
I've only had that issue when shooting POS/stations before, this time it was after a couple of hours of ratting.
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ralphie crom
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: ralphie crom on 24/05/2006 22:11:32
Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
well i have a "known issue", with regards to the af signature radius being raised......is there an inkling to reverse nerf that nerf, or could we have an enlightenment as to why these t2 ships are being changed for a "balance" reason?
i understand the logic behind the wording, "brought into line with its t1 counterpart" but was there a call for this change? i really enjoy flying my enyo and ishkurs, now it seems that they and many other ships are being rendered....un-unique.
i fear that the direction that you guys are headed is to make EVE into a "fit for all ages" and simplified game......precisely the reason that i left SWG after years of "game balancing"; they ruined the game.....i dont wish that for EVE, i have had too much fun becoming unique, to have that slowly stripped away again in the interest of "equality on the battlefield for all players, no matter what their skills".
please dont tell me that you are going to start adjusting dmg based upon skill point level as well, i.e., some kind of curve so that only similar sp lvl characters can pvp against each other with no handicaps.
what is the big picture here, are you going to soften the game in the hopes of attracting younger crowds, or players with attention deficit disorder? if this is the case, would you consider splintering the game for those of us who prefer challenge and diversity?
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
The font is unchanged. It is still the same badly designed font.
The way it is presentated has been changed.
Just look at the system name in the upper left corner.
The 'Current System' and the system name are now glued together. That didn't happen before the bugfix ...
There are little changes like that all over.
the font still blows/sucks/hurts-eyes-of-baby-jesus...
there is a thread with a mod that makes the font LEGIBLE but its a EULA breaker and a banning offense....yes kiddies, you can be banned from eve for doing a little thing like usoing a font that lets you read the menus and chat without causing headaches/eye-bleeds/vomiting.
CCP fix the font, fire the font master currently in office and PAY ATTENTION TO THE CUSOMERS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE FONT THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE SINCE YOU CHANGED IT TO THIS PILE-OF-POOO FONT.
FRODO HAS FAILED;
BUSH HAS THE RING!!!
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.05.25 00:23:00 -
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Thank you CCP for stealth fixing the outpost renaming issue 
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.05.25 00:36:00 -
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"You have been banned from 651394709, or it does not allow public acces"
Message I get on one of my characters everytime he docks/undocks/change ships/jumps into a new system. This happened after this patch and after my corporation left the alliance. It's my only character that has this "feature" even if I have other characters in the same corporation/former alliance and played from the same Eve install.
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