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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:23:00 -
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The Bloodlines patch has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. If you have any issues after the patch, please check the Known Issues page to see if the Dev team is already aware of it and submit a bug report. If you are unsure of what has been changed in this patch, please take a look at the Patch Notes.
Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative or off-topic posts will be removed.
The Devs will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status.
kieron
Community Manager,
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zyrtan Keb''Lektar on 23/05/2006 15:26:27
\o/
mr. murphy didnt come this time i see :) cant wait to use a blaster mega now
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:27:00 -
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keiron im not questioning forum policy but how can feedback be given if no negative posts are allowed.
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:30:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: ToxicFire
keiron im not questioning forum policy but how can feedback be given if no negative posts are allowed.
"I am having an issue with <insert problem here>." would be allowed. "*&( CCP, can't you ever deploy a &*(^$#*( patch right!!!111elevenone" is negative and will be acted upon. Savvy? 
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Benilopax on 23/05/2006 15:35:49
Keiron is no fun! 
How come im incompatible when ive already updated my client?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 23/05/2006 15:35:38
Incorrect version on client error. Despite update....
"Invalid version of client for selected server"
I updated using the patch during downtime.
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Zacha Nioto
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Patch Notes
An exploit involving drones has been resolved. What is it you say? As if we would tell you before we fixed it! :)
Maybe you could give us the details now. :)
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kay Han on 23/05/2006 15:37:22
Originally by: kieron
"*&( CCP, can't you ever deploy a &*(^$#*( patch right!!!111elevenone" is negative and will be acted upon. Savvy?
I was about to say something like that :)
But hey only 30 min behind the scheduled time.. good work so far..
BUT..
Quote:
Invalid version of client for selected server
When both clients versions are 2.10.3910?
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Zaphroid Eulthran
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:38:00 -
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Edited by: Zaphroid Eulthran on 23/05/2006 15:39:51
have patched to 3910, cliant shows 3910 as current patch required but it says i am incompatable
Edit; damn im slow, beaten to it many times over
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: MMXMMX
Ok the server is up and after the patch i get this :
Invalid version of client for selected server
yup same here, tq says version 3910, my client in version 3910 (patched it), and says incompatable
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Gitter Uglyson
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:39:00 -
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But hey ..funny thing is .. im compatable for the test server now lol
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WhiskeyDP
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: WhiskeyDP on 23/05/2006 15:44:28
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Incorrect version on client error. Despite update....
"Invalid version of client for selected server"
I updated using the patch during downtime.
The Devs are aware of the issue and looking into it. Thanks!
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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Nasdram
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:40:00 -
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Pls make the improvement of the patcher a top priority.
I downloaded it and tryed to install the patch but it wont work for me.
One question: how long should it take the patcher to patch? longer than 30min?
i had to download the whole client with every patch since i joined in september. This is a REAL downer. right now i download the whole client with a nice 2.4 kb/s
Anyone else got that problem?
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Korben Morat
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:40:00 -
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Status: Incompatible
Strange that sisi doesn't give me that message when I select it instead of Tranq
I used autopatch 
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Bohoba
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:43:00 -
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LOL ok who poped the cork to soon
incompatable ......ooooppppssss
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Darth Sim
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:45:00 -
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I'm out to...
I have the trail version, but i payed just few days ago, bye bye money 
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Sandeep
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:45:00 -
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Patcher takes a few seconds if not minutes.
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Arazule
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:46:00 -
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Just to let you know, when i tried to connect it says my version is incompatable.....yet its the same version when i compare the two, this may have been mentioned allready so dnt flame me, just thought id let you know.
Thanks
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:46:00 -
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So it's starting up anew, fingers crossed.
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Jean Satre
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:47:00 -
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incompatable...
but it looks like the servers been restarted.
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Ast3r0iD
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:50:00 -
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Keiron ... deal or no deal
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Meninha
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:53:00 -
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server is kind of restarting 3rd time already.. tryed to connect.. updated.. then off again.. then 320 sec for restart. then unable to connect again.. 520 sec... unable again, 220 sec..
hope it works now, but i guess they are still working on it.. so it might take some more time again :-)
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:54:00 -
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at least you guys can see if its compatable or not, all im getting is a bloody black screen, BUT, my client version i use for SiSi seems to be tickety boo.
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Connor Llewllyan
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:54:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_control
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NoNamium
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:56:00 -
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Smurfs up, pal!
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2006.05.23 15:57:00 -
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Minor issue: The MOTD in the Help channel has gone very peculiar.
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Technosites
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:02:00 -
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"Your character is located within (Q-TBHW), which is currently loading.
Please try again in a moment."
Are others in!?! im connected but cant load char. :(
I know ur trying devs :)
Technosites
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Irrilian
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:02:00 -
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The chat channel motd/url bug that effects the test server is now an issue on Tranquility.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:08:00 -
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Erm, any plans on fixing the bug with not being able to change a station name?
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Dawn Verragan
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:09:00 -
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That MOTD bugs seems to affect not only the Help channel, Corp chan is borked, too.
Plus i don't like the line spacing, but that's prolly no bug but a matter of taste ;)
Cya
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Ibud
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Technosites
"Your character is located within (Q-TBHW), which is currently loading.
Please try again in a moment."
Are others in!?! im connected but cant load char. :(
I know ur trying devs :)
Technosites
Having the same issue
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Nechtan
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:11:00 -
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new line-spacing? Give us back the old one IMO...
Otherwise, good work so far! Haven't been able to undock though :)
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Matthias Ungabii
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:12:00 -
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Working for me, but I'm going to leave it a few hours...
ok maybe just a couple...or one...
DAMMIT
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Loudan
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:20:00 -
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All of my loading bars are not working. By this I mean they fill up and nothing happens. What is the point of a loading bar if when they all fill up nothing happens. Ok the first two before you actually enter the game work.(authenticating and loading char, although when they get to the end it takes like an extra 10 sec. errr) Then when I get to the entering game loading screen the loading bar fills up and stays there nothing else happens. I have left it there for atleast 5 min. at which time I get fed up and exit game.
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kalle320
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:21:00 -
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one error message says that i most patch manually but when i come to eve site i most download the full client....
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Irrilian
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:22:00 -
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The url markup of item links (e.g. a player) are no longer recorded in the chatlogs.
Rather than:
<a href="showinfo:1377//222666777888">A Player's name</a>
The only thing the log now shows is:
A Player's name
Its an issue (at least to me) as harvesting player references in such a manner is the most straight forward method of maintaining a KOS list e.g an example in game browser KOS list.
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Prohibited
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: kalle320
one error message says that i most patch manually but when i come to eve site i most download the full client....
The patch auto-downloaded and installed fine for me. Also I noticed the patch .exe was downloaded to my CCP/EVE folder so look in there and just run it manually if you have problems.
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anister
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:24:00 -
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Text in channels is no longer highlightable and links cannot be copied =\
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kalle320
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: kalle320 on 23/05/2006 16:26:39
this come up when i start EVE:There was an unexpected error while retrieving patch status:
A patch file for your build number is not available.
You will have to patch manually.
Would you like to attempt to download the patch manually?
and when i go to the site it sounds like this:
Patches
Here you can download patches for manual patching, if for some reason autopatching fails.
To manually apply a patch you will need to download the patch from below and save it to a local folder. Launch the EXE file from that folder. If a file-open dialog appears then locate EVE on your hard drive.
If you experience any problems then do not hesitate to contact support on http://support.eve-online.com
We were unable to locate a patchfile for your build no. (3908).
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Hehulk
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:26:00 -
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Ship maintance arrays no seem to longer flag ships as being in your corp/alliance, so they get bounced by the POS shield as you try to swap ships. Can see this being more than an iritation if you've got your POS set-up to fire at neutrals
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Berious
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:26:00 -
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Please reduce the spacing between lines in chat to their pre-patch distance.
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coffeetable
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:27:00 -
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Can't highlight text. Only way is to copy one goddamn line at a time.
There goes the quotes thread :(
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Prohibited
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: kalle320
but should i download the full game client??
i cant find the .exe file in the folder...
Yes - go to this link: http://www.eve-online.com/patches/patches.asp
Choose 2.10.3910 from the droplist and click find client. Run the .exe when downloads and choose your proper CCP/EVE directory to install to.
Will work fine, but beware the new fonts! o.O
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:28:00 -
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I don't mind the font personally, until i switch over to Japanese, the old font never had a problem, the new one makes it quite weird and difficult to read.
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Hertford
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:29:00 -
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The mouse wheel no longer scrolls the chat window, until I old-school it and actually click on the scrollbar.
Of course, you switch to a different tab, and I have to use the scrollbar again before the mouse wheel scrolls the text.
(Pre patch, this was never an issue)
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Wrench Head
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:29:00 -
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Overall a pretty decent patch day that has exceeded my expectations. Job Well Done, CCP. 
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Zirator
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:29:00 -
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As said before links in the chat window aren't clickable anymore. Also you can't hilight text to copy paste it.
2nd problem is that there is now a complete line of empty space between the lines in the chatwindow. The RMR font wasn't that great to be honest but now it looks even more horrible. At least pre patch I had the text nicely packed together and now I have two make a huge window if I want to read more then 3 lines at the same time. ( Yes I'm using the smallest font option )
That's it so far.
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SonOfAGhost
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
at least you guys can see if its compatable or not, all im getting is a bloody black screen
I've got the same thing. Downloaded to try applying manually and it just confirmed that the new patch has already been applied. To clarify I'm getting the 1st splash screen and then it's going black for the second screen that has the login.
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Talos Munjab
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:31:00 -
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nvm im in
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:32:00 -
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New font in normal mode = -10/10 
New font in expanded mode = 0/10 . They are too big.
Please bring back the previous not so broken font!
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Zeta Draconis
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Berious
Please reduce the spacing between lines in chat to their pre-patch distance.
Amen.
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Tsu Jiamusi
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:32:00 -
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Did you steath nerf drone damage?
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:32:00 -
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I would avise a lot of you to clear your cache every patch, keeping your settings of course
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Prohibited
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin
I don't mind the font personally, until i switch over to Japanese, the old font never had a problem, the new one makes it quite weird and difficult to read.
I have never *****ed about any of the font changes to date (even though they have been less than perfect for a while... THIS time though, it has gotten a lot worse tbh.
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Dhin Xar
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:32:00 -
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New font is really a step backwards from the previous one. Line spacing, selection, collision with the interface, everything is screwed up. |
dosperado
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:33:00 -
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Channel MOTD's are completely broken as well...
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Sean Dillon
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:34:00 -
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The new font hurt my eyes, the previous one was more eye candy.
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Prohibited
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
I would avise a lot of you to clear your cache every patch, keeping your settings of course
Excellent advice. Most important items to keep from your Cache folder: prefs.ini + Settings folder. This will retain your login info, preferences, and bookmark folders.
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Callistus
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
New font in normal mode = -10/10
New font in expanded mode = 0/10 . They are too big.
Please bring back the previous not so broken font!
/signed, the font has been an issue for ages now and every patch its changed slightly but there's never any improvement. Just a level in between normal and expanded would be some improvement.
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Lord Matrix
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:36:00 -
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New line spacing is horrible. There are problems displaying MOTD, chat windows are not scrollable.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:41:00 -
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Everything looks fine to me, except some minor graphical glitches:
- The font has increased vertical space now, so Current Destination (when travelling) is positioned a few pixels too far down.
- In the market, the "Show only available" caption text needs to get some more horizontal space so it doesnt end up as two lines. Im loving how the market now shows the best price in region correctly though, ive been waiting for this. 
- When opening the map, it now displays below every other window you have open.
- Tooltips are easier to read. Me likes.
- I like that petitions now have a reimbursement category instead of being filed as Other.
Thats about it. Nice job, devs.
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Vir Hellnamin
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:44:00 -
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Like the new right-click font and spaceing, much clearer (on this view of mine).
Not like being not able to select text in chat windows - to copy only parts of full sentences. Although, the new right click 'copy all' - copy sentence - is nice "addition."
Also, why the additional chat spacing between sentences? It cuts down number of lines per view - thus not-so-nice during op.
(MotD can be fixed by re-entering it?)
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Monsieur Pink
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:44:00 -
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There's not much to criticize. Really there isn't much of a patch, literly. It all fit in one screen of my web browser.
I repeat I really disagree with paying for the developement of a server I'm never going to play. It's not like the chinese macroers are going to leave the main server when Eve china opens. So how exactly do we benefit from supplying communist china with a game? we don't, thanks for screwing your player base. |
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:45:00 -
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The Devs have been informed of the chat issues, including the MotD, lack of ability to highlight blocks of text and spacing issues. They are looking into the causes and for a fix.
kieron
Community Manager,
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Cassandra Stone
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:47:00 -
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wooot we can do italics, bold and underline in chat now
Patch lookin good so far except the channel MOTD is borked
Looks like online indicators finally working properly at last
And Ammarrians should be please at the last minute boost to tachyon beams
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 23/05/2006 16:48:43
Originally by: Cassandra Stone
wooot we can do italics, bold and underline in chat now
Patch lookin good so far except the channel MOTD is borked
Looks like online indicators finally working properly at last
And Ammarrians should be please at the last minute boost to tachyon beams
Kieron, is there a way for me to get previous font back please? I do get headache seeing the new font especially in normal mode. Expanded mode is quite annoying because they are too big/wide?
/me on knees and begs.
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Cassandra Stone
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Berious
Please reduce the spacing between lines in chat to their pre-patch distance.
Right click the line of text and select copy.
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Javeir
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:50:00 -
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Now there's spacing between the text when you choose 'text only' mode, instead of "text + portrait" mode for your chat window. Not to mention that when you move your mouse over someone's name in the chat window, it no longer highlights every instance of that persons name.
CCP, this is a plea - bring it back to the way it was, and remove the painfull spacing!
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:51:00 -
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Restore the original chat text setup now. That is all
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:51:00 -
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The sky is blue, the sun is shinning, flowers, birds, bees, green grass. A real nice day.
Dont mind me I am just trying to catch up to DS and HK on the boards.... |
Prohibited
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Prohibited on 23/05/2006 16:52:52
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Helison
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
The Devs have been informed of the chat issues, including the MotD, lack of ability to highlight blocks of text and spacing issues. They are looking into the causes and for a fix.
I¦m just wondering, why the Devs havn¦t done anything about these issues before the deployment of the patch...
I have bugreported several issues with chatchannels in the last days like MotD, selecting (highlighting) blocks of text and not working links including special chars like "&".
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Hertford
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:54:00 -
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Just looked at a stack of pyerite, with 'wide' font selected...
and the icon shows 52.05, but there's an errant 'M' underneath the '5', looking suspiciously like the box for the number isn't big enough (or isn't scaled properly) and so the last character (in this case, the 'M') overflows to a new line.
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cassandra Stone
wooot we can do italics, bold and underline in chat now
Thats been in forever. Bugs ive noticed so far -
The chat, which isnt really a bug, but has been mentioned, scroll wheel, no clicky, the works.
The dreaded amp; is back, when you copy a link to a thread on the forums this gets added in. Was like this before, then got sorted, now ITS BACK FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE!
The font I dont mind to be honest, but it only really looks "Nice" in one place. Combat windows. They look really polished and the font works well there.
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freek
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Nechtan
Am I the only one who doesn't like the new line-spacing? Give us back the old one IMO...
Otherwise, good work so far! Haven't been able to undock though :)
No you are not, why the hell do they have to keep changing things that are not broken while still avoiding all the bugs and problems we have been reporting for months.
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Equin
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:56:00 -
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Derived standings bug has been removed from the Known Issue's list for the latest build.
But its also not on the patch notes thats its been fixed.
Has this been fixed??? Would surely hope so
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turquois
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
The Devs have been informed of the chat issues, including the MotD,
Work around that worked for me - get a channel operator to go into settings and click on ok. I have done this one 3 channels that I'm an operator on, and has worked fine on all 3 occasions.
Turquois
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Hertford
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:58:00 -
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I've got multiple chat channels tabbed together in one window. Before, flicking between them was a painless and almost transparent operation.
Now, I get to enjoy a half second or so pause as it switches tabs. Pause, as in the entire client pauses.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.23 16:58:00 -
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Quote from patch data:
Quote:
The capacitor need of blasters has been reduced by 30% and the CPU need has been reduced by 15%.
Is there any way to view this information as in game specs? Will the blaster info show a lower CPU requirement now?
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:01:00 -
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Actually im beginning to get a headache from the new font too. But it might just be while my eyes adjust to it...
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:02:00 -
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You can reset the channel Motd by opening the setting of the channel and close it again by pressing "Ok". Then the correct messege will be shown.
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Rodsy
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Rodsy on 23/05/2006 17:08:21
The in station camera is laggy, and fps inside stations has decreased.
Changing tabs in chat is slow.
Market-window is messy, for example the demanded skills icon is lower than power and cpu icons.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:06:00 -
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Anyone else noticed that it takes longer to switch chat channels?
It seams to be that it lags 1-2sec more then usually?
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:09:00 -
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While I find the new font a lot more legible in rightclick menus and such (in fact its beautiful to my eyes there), in chat it has just moved one issue. Where in a 2.1 the old font attached the . to the 2, making it look like 21, the new one attaches it to the 1, making it look like 21 again :/
Whats so hard about seperating dots...
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runers
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:12:00 -
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its very lag when switch in different chat channel.
if that channel have a lots of word,its terrible.
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31i73
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: 31i73 on 23/05/2006 17:15:36
The font looks great to me. Clearer than the previous one. Try out different settings.
Only downside I noticed so far, is that you can't drag someones face from chat to make a link, only works from the participant list.
edit : oh and scrolling the chat with your mouse's roll doesn't work either, unless you click at the scrollbar first. I think it should be enough the chatwindow is active.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:12:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 23/05/2006 17:13:20
Originally by: turnschuh
Anyone else noticed that it takes longer to switch chat channels?
It seams to be that it lags 1-2sec more then usually?
Yes, they have changed something here. Its the same when opening it from minimized. It freezes for a second and cant be moved while it gets the text. Not a big deal though, but its something that gets noticed.
What font are they using here in the forum by the way? Its better than the one in the game.
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:19:00 -
[89]
Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 23/05/2006 17:20:36
TO FIX THE VERSION ERROR AFTER PATCHING:
once you patch reboot your pc and the patch will be upto date...if you try to login without rebooting your computer after the patch it will tell you incorrect version and want you to down load it again...
as for clearing your cache for a patch.....thats just total malarky....and should not be needed...clearing cache is all upto you and it may help you if you already jacked your cache somehow.......rebooting your box AFTER patching or CRASHING will keep your cacheing issues in check...for the most part...
hurrying to login will corrupt the cache more...
Blackhole Bob
www.evegathering.com
IGB New Player Guide - 100% In Game Compatible. |
Drew Peacock
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:28:00 -
[90]
The overview updating bug has still not been fixed. Its a real pain having to open and close the overview to get it updated.
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Cassandra Stone
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:29:00 -
[91]
Drones stll attack gang members.
Ship A is tanker and damage dealer raven
Ship B is support Domi
Ship B also has hammerhead II drones out dealing damage, but taking no aggro.
As soon as the Domi turns a shiled transporter onto Raven, the Domi's drones start attacking the raven.
I was REALLY hoping this would be fixed and the patch notes indicated it would be
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:37:00 -
[92]
Droping an item in to corp chat, and doing link to show item info, no longer makes a link, it jsut makes some orange text, which is not a hot link.
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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:49:00 -
[93]
I seem to be getting an extreme amount of lag when trying to browse assets (especially with high numbers of objects).
Also, the forums seem very slow for me at the moment, not sure if that is linked in any way, but thought i would mention it as other pages/forums seem to load at normal speeds.
Mike
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:58:00 -
[94]
Channel MOTD is broken - Not displaying correctly.
"We brake for nobody"
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Prohibited
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:01:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Hertford
I've got multiple chat channels tabbed together in one window. Before, flicking between them was a painless and almost transparent operation.
Now, I get to enjoy a half second or so pause as it switches tabs. Pause, as in the entire client pauses.
Clicking on the tabs to switch chat windows... definite lag which was not there before.
You can tell its 'loading' but very annoying.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:05:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 23/05/2006 18:07:55
I use chat windows without the portrait and don't like the new spacing.
Especially the free line between two different people. Looks like I only see about half of the information in alliance chat than before in a window of the same size.
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Aikowan
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:12:00 -
[97]
It is no more possible to relink links in chat, i.e. there's a hostile linked in chat, before patch one could drag that on chat line of another chat window to post it.
As to font/spacing/switching delay, its a bit anoying.
Aiko
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Cylynex
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:23:00 -
[98]
Please stop changing the font. Please stop changing the font. Please stop changing the font.
Or just give us the options to do it ourselves, this new spacing is really irritating. I don't understand why every few months there is this need to change the font. Please stop changing the font.
Thumbs up on the needed projectile changes though, now how about a minor tracking boost for the artilleries?
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:39:00 -
[99]
Please move the UI design over to the second year students of the University of Reykjavik, sinology or legal classes ...
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
Betonela
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:53:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Betonela on 23/05/2006 19:05:19
Originally by: Hertford
Unable to select text in any chat window, and the mouse cursor doesn't change to the vertical selector bar when over a chat window, it remains a crosshair.
Also, the vertical spacing in chat now is horrible. I could park a cruiser in those line spacings.
is a bug ? or patch change ?
edit: make a list whit the detected BUG`s soo no double post
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:53:00 -
[101]
Patchnotes updated with the previously missing fixed drone exploit. Also that corp hanger array capacity was also fixed, and is now capped at 200k.
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M00dy
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:54:00 -
[102]
The forums are loading very very slowly.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:05:00 -
[103]
While I'm glad to see the devs are still on the job and have made some great changes like the Blaster boost.. I just can not get around to what they did to the chat interface.
First there's the new and horrible spacing 'feature' which adds an extra return after every single line of text, effectively making any banter take up twice as much room. Weak.
This in turn requires me to scroll more if I want to read up on something. Unfortunately, scrolling seems to have been removed all together with this patch. Which forces me to use the crappy and laggy scrollbar. Lame.
To top it off I am forced to endure lag in the form of freezes whenever I want to join, leave, close, open, minimize, maximize or simply switch to a chat channel. Tedious.
Ok so these things bother me. But what bothers me more is why the hell these changes were made in the first place. I mean the chat interface has never exactly been IRC quality but it was far less tedious than any of the other numerous bugs. No wait, how did these changes pass testing at all? Did no one notice the massive spacing between returns or the horrible game freezes when switching channels?
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Commander MZ
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:08:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Hertford
I've got multiple chat channels tabbed together in one window. Before, flicking between them was a painless and almost transparent operation.
Now, I get to enjoy a half second or so pause as it switches tabs. Pause, as in the entire client pauses.
yea, very annoying.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:21:00 -
[105]
I reported each and every single of the UI issues when they were introduced on SiSi. Guess how much the UI dev and the QA team reacts to SiSi Bugreports.
I don't think I ever gonna reactivate the account I used for SiSi testing. It is just absolutely pointless. 186 SiSi bugreports in roughly 2.5 years - and not a single of those reported bugs has been fixed before it made its way to Tranquility.
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
Rimhawk
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:44:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Rimhawk on 23/05/2006 19:47:17
- Drones still attack gang members just as happily as they did before.
- Fonts are ok for me provided I set them to wide.
- Links in chat windows no longer work; Only orange text show up.
Can someone please return the QA departments test server to them... 
Rimhawk
V8 Interceptors |
Ombey
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:49:00 -
[107]
Anyone else getting graphics problems? Before the patch, all ok, never had any glitches.
After the patch, my ship has disappeared to be replaced by a mass of diamond fragments, the overview goes glitchy,but can be refreshed by tabbing twice, and sometimes cargo bay items get glitched together (again can be refreshed by closing and reopening).
And finally, looking at the sun causes a huge square to appear over it. Can provide screenshots if required
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:51:00 -
[108]
Drones are still bugged to hell.
Good news is i'm glad that Eve China is going well while were being shafted time and time again by failed big fixin...
It's your code yet you seam unable to fix it. yet another Token patch from the almighty CCP.
PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK ERISGREEN
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1Of9
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:54:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Callistus
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
New font in normal mode = -10/10
New font in expanded mode = 0/10 . They are too big.
Please bring back the previous not so broken font!
/signed, the font has been an issue for ages now and every patch its changed slightly but there's never any improvement. Just a level in between normal and expanded would be some improvement.
Hi everyone.
Im that kind of players, that say nothing, read all in the forum.
But this time, i have to speak.
there is so many issues to fix in the game, like in any software, why waste time on a working font?
this new font killed the game for me .. i have 3 accounts, and i play eve everyday for ... too much time ... but now, i cant play!
This font it's horrible. i cant readit , i cant copy text, if i decrease the size, it's unreadable, if i increase the size, it's so ugly my eyes refuse to read this ...
im very sad that this change as ocurred..really, i mean, we can live with bug here, bugs there, but if we can't read ... i cant.
hope there's some lucky1 that can.
PS: i have 2 19" LCD monitors, 3 computers, to run the 3 accounts same time.
This is _NOT_ a cache problem, i cleared cache on all 3 computers, and even deleted cache folder completly on one, losing couple non-important BM's folders, and settings, and font still kicks my eyes. no improvement.
/me goes to bed ubber sad with EVE ...
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:04:00 -
[110]
The patch seems solid to me. It fixes several irritating bugs and balance issues. My only complaint is that it was a very long time between this patch and the last.
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Nasdram
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:08:00 -
[111]
Has the CPU and PG also been reduced for COSMOS Neutron Blasters?
not sure how it was.
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Laramon Questor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:16:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Laramon Questor on 23/05/2006 20:39:39
1) 90% of my links work, 10% are just orange text. EDIT: Thank you poster below me for pointing out why some links don't work. The wrapping code broke links. Tested personally.
2) A user choosable font would be nice. I can handle it, and can't understand why people say "it gives me headaches" or "It's butt ugly" but I wouldn't mind changing it if I had the option.
3) The IGB is so broken it's not even funny. Most pages I can reach out of game give me 404 errors, and lag my system to high hell. A browser shouldn't cause the entire EVE client to freeze for 10 seconds at a time.
4) No text selection in windows, unless I want to copy the entire line with right clicking.
5) Not sure if this was this way pre-patch, but I can't add lines to my bio after an item link without it being considered part of the link. Even adding another item link causes it to be part of the previous link and therefore not a real link.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:27:00 -
[113]
"Clicky" Orange items links etc are not clicky unless they stay on one line. If your chat window has them wrap onto a second line mid orange link, you cannot click on them. Unelss you stretch your chat window so they are on the one line again.
(p.s. new font SUCKS)
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Jarnis McPieksu
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:39:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 23/05/2006 20:48:21
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 23/05/2006 20:46:22
Originally by: Mephysto
Also that corp hanger array capacity was also fixed, and is now capped at 200k.
Um, the bug was 'its displaying 200000m3, instead of 1400000m3', not the other way around :)
Now seriously:
'Do I deploy a corp hangar array or a small ship assembly array?'
Corp hangar array, 100000mw, 150cpu --- 200 000m3 space
Small ship assembly, 100000mw, 250cpu ---- 2 000 000m3 space.
Ten times the space, same PG, bit under twice the cpu - oh and the other one can also build frigs!
Let me think... 
/ponder
/tosses corp hangar arrays overboard as useless junk.
- Jarnis McPieksu
Industrial Operative, Beagle Corp
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Banana Torres
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:40:00 -
[115]
Interaction with agents seems to be a lot faster. No waiting for ages after clicking on the response link. Which is very nice.
Did the font change? I didn't notice.
So far I like this patch. thx.
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Annya Avishnaya
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:48:00 -
[116]
The new text looks great to me. The spacing doesn't bug me much at all really, I find it makes chat easier to read. The right-click menus look awesome as well now and a lot easier to read. I still have a hard time telling the 8 and 9 apart in the clock at the bottom left though, it'd be really nice to get that sharpened a bit.
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Laramon Questor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:48:00 -
[117]
6) Transactions Page Bug
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:03:00 -
[118]
Originally by: M00dy
The forums are loading very very slowly.
Painfully so. Average page load times for me are over 10s and I've had some things stall completely.
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Cherry popped! ~kieron
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Jammy git
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:10:00 -
[119]
...still can't log-on without a working machonet file....
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Connar Omorris
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:24:00 -
[120]
I am unable to stay connected. I have had this issue for quiet a while now but with the latest patch I am getting dropped with in 5 minutes.
Here are the details:
Disconnects in < 5 minutes
Was having a disconnects after ~30 minutes before today but with todays patch I now get dropped in less then 5 minutes.
XP sp2 system, nForce 590 3500+ AMD64, GeForce 6150, 1gb ram with sound disabled. Internet connection is an OC-12 line and have a 149ms ping time to the server.
Attached is the CCP Log Server output.
Log Output
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AceOfSpace
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:40:00 -
[121]
Edited by: AceOfSpace on 23/05/2006 21:44:48
Only problem for me so far is the spaces between lines in chat when displaying without portraits. It's kind of annoying and an inefficient use of space 
edit: And, as someone said in another thread, there is quite a delay when switching from one chat tab to another. Not good.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:43:00 -
[122]
Has anyone noticed any problems with distances? I dont know if it's a graphical bug or something awry in the coding but I noticed during a mission that I was repeatedly told I was out of range for webber, nos, though I was practically on top of the other ships with my distance reading around 1-2K. Weapon range hits seemed off, I tried to accelerate towards one rat and my distance reader climbed up the other way. Distances seemed all off every which way. Is it worth filling a bug report?
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Kagero Machiko
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:47:00 -
[123]
just a few pointers most of us may know but newer peeps may not.
If ur havign troubel with the username and password screen laodign up a few things that may help (they have me on severla occassions are..
Machonet Cache: delete everythign under this in eve folder in ur install folder example
C:\program files\ccp\eve\machonet\
then u want to go into the capture folder, go into Chat logs, gamelogs delte all the files under here speeds up load times and helps after patching if login screen takes time to appear. example again
C:\Program Files\ccp\eve\capture\gamelogs
C:\Program Files\ccp\eve\capture\chatlogs
helps to clear these out once a month too as well as the other 2 folders to help speed up login times.
its a simple thign and after patches i've noticed i have to do it sumtimes so it loads the intro/login screen up so this may help with patchign issues too
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MellaRinn
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:56:00 -
[124]
Edited by: MellaRinn on 23/05/2006 22:04:55
Originally by: Hertford
I've got multiple chat channels tabbed together in one window. Before, flicking between them was a painless and almost transparent operation.
Now, I get to enjoy a half second or so pause as it switches tabs. Pause, as in the entire client pauses.
QFT so much... wonder if clearing cache helps...
EDIT: cleaning the cahtlogs made my cliuent load in a few secodns rather than 3 minutes, finally \o/
It also makes the chatwindows jump properly when tabbed togetrher, sweet!
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Nightwing
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:01:00 -
[125]
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVE... CHANGE THE FONT BACK... Its smaller and very blury to read.
19" g90f ViewSonic Monitor at 1280x960. Eve at 1152x864 windowed mode.
Gforce6600 256mb pci-express
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Marine03112
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:28:00 -
[126]
This is off subject Kieron but i heard you were a Tow Gunner? was that in the US. IF so i was a 0311 oh rah.
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Briant Thoorag
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:19:00 -
[127]
Missing cans and items
I'm playing Missing Reporters 2 : Bad Timing - a level 3 mission
I kill everything and come back in a smaller ship to recan for my hauler.
After I recan two loads, I look around and the jet cans are gone.
250m3 of loot is missing
Alenia/Verge Vendor
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:21:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Tachy
I reported each and every single of the UI issues when they were introduced on SiSi. Guess how much the UI dev and the QA team reacts to SiSi Bugreports.
I don't think I ever gonna reactivate the account I used for SiSi testing. It is just absolutely pointless. 186 SiSi bugreports in roughly 2.5 years - and not a single of those reported bugs has been fixed before it made its way to Tranquility.
And people wonder why I don't bother with bug reports anymore...
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Sever Aldaria
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:38:00 -
[129]
Drones won't attack rats
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sinderela
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:55:00 -
[130]
No problems here whats so ever. Of course I'm 100% free and clear of all junk, spam, viruses, cache issues, patch issues, auto-startup-ons, and other crap that would do things most of you wouldn't even understand. Patch is perfect. Good work CCP.
Wanna know how many things I have running in my system tray? 2, ati drivers, sound drivers. =/
p4 3.06ghz /w HT, 2gigs 1066mhz RDRAM, 256meg XT800PRO, and a whole lotta skill. Smooth sailing.
Infact I think this patch made everything faster, i swear all the lag the sql upgrade made, and only now this
thing is burning u, and thats with 20k+ peeps.
NICE PATCH!
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Caine
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:03:00 -
[131]
seems my crash to desktop issues are still there (yeah petitioned it but told the usual crap about them being bussy)
infact I just got 3 in the last hour
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Daiashi
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:46:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Daiashi on 24/05/2006 00:47:12
Not cetain if this is a patch issue or if it was there before but;
Amarr Navy Med IR Crystals are carrying the Multi description of 'vastly decreased range, vastly increased damage' which is odd as they give +20% range.
Other than that and the item links in chat the rest seems fine, not tested drones in a gang yet though . .
and I even like the new / borked / whatever font
/me runs and hides now
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2006.05.24 01:01:00 -
[133]
New Patch, but no new skills.
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Kagero Machiko
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Posted - 2006.05.24 02:01:00 -
[134]
i have noticed since installin the new patch that when i launch eve it brings up the intro screen and then when that disappears and the login screen is supposed to appear its blank and seems to be not responding sorta thing, i can still hear the music but its just black or partly whatever window i shut down over it.
if i delete the cache files tho it loads up fine, just i have to delete all the cache files each time i load up eve, quite strange really
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:46:00 -
[135]
Did anybody else's Assault Frigs just become useless... esspecially when fighting Caldari?
/raises hand
Not only has my sig radius increased, but I have to be within 10km in order to hit something (using small railguns)... and folks shooting missiles can be around 15km to 20km away and hit me for more than before... ahhh, I love buying useless ships right before they turn into garbage. I think everybody has a brudge againt Gallente... we never have anything good given to us... other than our devilishly good looks... I'd much rather look good than stand a chance in PvP!
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:49:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/05/2006 03:54:25
Just an fyi, also for those running via emulation (cedega 5.1.3).
The patch mechanism worked fine. Game restarted post patch with no issues.
The font 'issues' are the same for the linux side as they are windows. I personally don't mind the new fonts, but the motd's are spaghetti, but then we all knew that by page one of this thread.
I am reporting that under cedega, post patch frame rate around stations and gates went up by 5-15fps. So other than the fonts, pretty happy with this.
(pre patch outside gallente station: 29-32fps. post patch 39-50fps @ 1900x1200 FS resolution.)
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Bubba1977
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:49:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Bubba1977 on 24/05/2006 03:48:50
Minimized chat windows no longer blink when there's a new message.
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:26:00 -
[138]
CCP, get your ******* act together.
Need new people in QA, double the department if needed. It seems that since Cold War Edition all you've been doing is finding yet another way to screw up. I've been one of the patient ones, but now I am seriously getting tired of these tedious untested and poorly implimented patches.
What the hell have you done to the chat? What was so incredibly wrong with it that you had to make it worse? Client lockups when switching between gang and corp chat, SHOULD NOT FRIKKEN HAPPEN! Niether should lockup when buying stuff from the market!
Suggestion: Read the bloody bug reports. Then, fix them!
I just hope all this development effort on 'The Path to Kali' and bloody China are worth it in the long run, and I mean for us players!
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Hon Kovell
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:28:00 -
[139]
I just had a skill get stuck on 'completion imminent'. I think it was there for an hour before I checked it and found it was stuck. I then changed to another skill and the first stayed at 'completion imminent'. So that's two skills training at once, according to the skills page.
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crom ralphfao
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Posted - 2006.05.24 05:26:00 -
[140]
heya,
i give my vote for returning our af's to lessened signature radius, as it stands people will not fly them with no other option.....such as usable bc's.
un-nerf them and i will ship you a baby penguin.
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Dhannik
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Posted - 2006.05.24 06:09:00 -
[141]
I hate to sound like a broken record as you guys probably have heard this a lot within the last few days since the patch release... or hell with ever patch release.
But seriously? What's with the fixation on fonts for ever patch? Fonts are like one of those small things that happen to have a huge effect on gameplay, due to the fact that so much of EVE tends to be based around text and chat windows. Why all of a sudden does the text seem to be a forced double-spacing, even when you try to single space it? Such stuff like that... it is very frustrating.
Very very frustrating.
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.05.24 06:23:00 -
[142]
The font still sucks. Really.
Changes to chat spacing etc are annoying but I can live with it, still can't see WHY it was necessary for someone to spend time changing this when it was fine, but meh.
Can we please get the option to choose our own fonts? Clearly you guys are incapable of choosing a decent font and sticking with it, so please just give us the option to use what we like.
Does CCP have a QA team that tests these patches before releasing them? Because it sure doesn't seem like it when obvious things like pauses between switching channels suddenly appear. Or are the testers not actually people who play this game?
All these little things are annoying. Please stop working on new stuff and FIX what's currently broken. Like drones attacking gang mates, stations not renameable, just to name a few. More features are useless because they will just be buggy as hell anyway. Please fix the bugs. Please fix the typos and spelling mistakes.
Don't just patch because its that time of the month, fix problems, THEN patch.
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Perpello
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Posted - 2006.05.24 07:04:00 -
[143]
Why are the forums soo slooow?
Don't like the new line-spacing. Don't like the client locking up completely when I switch between chat tabs. The chat changes between 3900 and 3910 sadly do not seem to be improvements.
/me writes "Must do better!" on CCP's report card.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.05.24 07:40:00 -
[144]
Decimal dots in the mouse-over menu (such as when holding the mouse cursor on the wallet icon briefly) is barely visible in 1152x864 mode (I haven't tried other modes).
(And the new spacing is annoying etc)
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Vir Hellnamin
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Posted - 2006.05.24 07:44:00 -
[145]
Anyone else noticed substantial drop on frame-rate (can be brought to almost full zero from ~90 fps by frantic scroll)when scrolling chat window (or chat member list)? Also, it seems there's bigger-than-before bump (in fps) when memberlist updates etc.
(Or, am I just having post-patch stress symptoms? :-)
Anyways nice to be back in space again after patch.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:00:00 -
[146]
No chance of having older font back? If I am the only one having problems then I will have to leave the game.
x.x
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:05:00 -
[147]
I've revised my assessment of this patch.
It's way too sparse considering how long it was between it and the last patch. CCP had better not start loaning the test server to any other Asian countries that ask nicely. It's hurt the development of the game I'm paying for too much.
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spurious signal
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:07:00 -
[148]
Can I just give feedback on the new font? Personally I don't like it. Enforced double-spacing looks ugly to my eyes and reduces the usefulness of the chat windows since they now have to be twice as large to accomdate the same amount of text as before.
Is there any reason why we can't select our own fonts? Or at least have a few to choose from?
Thanks.
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Ysolde Xen
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:18:00 -
[149]
Am I the only one who actually prefers the new font to the previous eye-bleeding mess? I never saw why it needed changing in the first place tbh but I think it's an improvement.
Drones still don't return to drone bay without 'sticking' on nothing/each other and slowing to 1m/s.
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Deviana Sevidon
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:19:00 -
[150]
I am disappointed with this patch. The issue with Deimos lacking speed and PG is still being ignored. Decreasing the PG-Requirements of Neutron Blasters did not help a ship that has not enough PG to fit Ions and a needed MWD. So we now have a HAC that has been build for Blasters but cannot use any, with the exception of Electrons.
Increasing the Sig-Radius of AF was also not a really good Idea. Now Intys are even more "Uber".
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Dupre Indelian
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:19:00 -
[151]
I am disappointed with this patch. The issue with Deimos lacking speed and PG is still being ignored. Decreasing the PG-Requirements of Neutron Blasters did not help a ship that has not enough PG to fit Ions and a needed MWD. So we now have a HAC that has been build for Blasters but cannot use any, with the exception of Electrons.
Increasing the Sig-Radius of AF was also not a really good Idea. Now Intys are even more "Uber".
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:19:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Nyabinghi
Has anyone noticed any problems with distances? I dont know if it's a graphical bug or something awry in the coding but I noticed during a mission that I was repeatedly told I was out of range for webber, nos, though I was practically on top of the other ships with my distance reading around 1-2K. Weapon range hits seemed off, I tried to accelerate towards one rat and my distance reader climbed up the other way. Distances seemed all off every which way. Is it worth filling a bug report?
That's a lag thing, I believe.
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Madeline Wickwor
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:34:00 -
[153]
My Drones are still beating up on gang mates, even tho all they did was transfer some energy to me.
I know you said no negative posts , I hae to assume you do not want to be surrounded by fan children, but did you even test this?
I actually think its worse now, I will take another 4 hr DT roll it back
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Kitty Stormwarden
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:45:00 -
[154]
The Font is better. I can now play at 2048x1536 (or thereabouts) and stand a chance of reading stuff :D last font was abit sore on the eyes and had to drop to 1600x1200.
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Burr
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:47:00 -
[155]
Why does the client lock up for a second every time I switch to a different chat tab? 
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Ting Tong
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Posted - 2006.05.24 09:39:00 -
[156]
Issues I have recognised:
- Text spacing, having a full line space between each line of text.
- Gang invites are still bugged, sending an invite that is refused (Receiver rejecting due to gate jump activation) results in the invitee to not re-send an invite, menu shows person as in gang, but if you try to kick member so you can re-gang him, a message is displayed saying member is not in the gang
- Dragging modules from can to cargo in space - When I drag loot from cans to my cargo icon, if I am too quick, the icons for the loot do not go into my cargo and the icon is stuck in space, meaning it is neither in the can or in my cargo. I just have the ghosted icon displayed and I can get rid of it.
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Ab Tallen
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Posted - 2006.05.24 10:01:00 -
[157]
IMHO, the new font is okay-ish in larger sizes (and takes up slightly less space as the old one then), but quite unusable when used in small and condensed mode - even at 1024x768, it's just too small. Condensed+small at low resolution was way better with the old font.
Annoyingly, even in the small size, the bold version of the new font is readable, so it seems it's just too thin.
Another vote for no-more-touching-the-font. There's a reason that good fonts are expensive and/or have a long history, and it's that font design is a craft that needs lots of knowledge and practice.
I've also noticed that text is clipped instead of wrapped with the new font at some places, for example in the character selection screen.
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Irongut
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Posted - 2006.05.24 10:52:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
Droping an item in to corp chat, and doing link to show item info, no longer makes a link, it jsut makes some orange text, which is not a hot link.
Originally by: Rimhawk
- Links in chat windows no longer work; Only orange text show up.
Actually they are links, they just aren't underlined. Try clicking them.
Other than the chat window bugs I haven't noticed any new problems and I have noticed a few things that were fixed. Seems like a pretty successful patch to me.
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blacknight9
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Posted - 2006.05.24 10:56:00 -
[159]
Edited by: blacknight9 on 24/05/2006 10:56:51
Seems like the deployment of the new patch brought also on his feature list "a bunch of whinners". Stop whinning so much. Nobody is forcing u to play the game.
Every time that something is done that was not in the patch release fixes, u go all to blame CCP for screwing the game.
And probably this is the reason that they didn't tell us before about the font(cause they already knew that is gonna be some flame posts and threads). This game is also about adaption. So stop moaning the old fonts and enjoy the new ones rather than flamming.
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Caryna
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:03:00 -
[160]
Originally by: blacknight9
... This game is also about adaption. So stop moaning the old fonts and enjoy the new ones rather than flamming.
i wanna adapt ... but can u give me some bucks for new glasses ?
if u have no probs with the new font, be happy ...
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:05:00 -
[161]
Ok here is my patch report:
After downloading patch at main Eve-online site. I proceeded to scan for bugs,virus,worms.etc...etc...
Patch installed with 0% problems.
Logging in took 15mins.
First went to local,alliance,corp, and personel chat channels 0% problems. Font is readable, no funky spaces, no fuzz. 0%
Took a couple of ships out for a spin...0% problems.
jumped a couple of times....0% problems
Docked, open market, wallet, corp hangers, personel hanger, station vaults, hanger vaults. 0% problems.
Rapid switch from one chat to the other...0%
Clonejumped...0%
redone all the above except clone jump. 0%
My system HP510w 382meg memory...Gforce 2400 vid card 256m, soundblaster 32bit. Internet connection 56 kbps.
So my report reads 0% problems with patch and game. With a long log in time, as to be expected on patch days.
99% failure in player base reporting strange things, that I could not duplicate. Or as we say here "Lockheed Fixed" Short for "Operator error"
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Stalkin
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:08:00 -
[162]
How about just taking the font back to the way it used to be which worked fine for a very long time. I'd also like to see Kali delayed until every bug has been properly fixed. The problem at the moment as i see it is there is a constant influx of new stuff into the game which fair enough will have bugs but don't add more until those are properly smoothed over. Is the reason for constantly adding new content to stay competitive with other MMORGs?
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blacknight9
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:24:00 -
[163]
Edited by: blacknight9 on 24/05/2006 11:24:26
Originally by: Caryna
Originally by: blacknight9
... This game is also about adaption. So stop moaning the old fonts and enjoy the new ones rather than flamming.
i wanna adapt ... but can u give me some bucks for new glasses ?
if u have no probs with the new font, be happy ...
U can change the font pixel width and also your resolution.
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Major Dim
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:33:00 -
[164]
As for me i have found 2 issues.
1st issue is with the INFO on devices. I posted a Power Diagnostic System II into chat. some could open the info on it - some not. Other devices work well - info can be opened by all. With trying a ton of devices we found another one which info can't be opened from chat by some corpmates including myself if its posted by someone else. Pseudoelectron Containment Field I - clicked it like 100 times but info doesnt open.
And yes ppl post it in chat the right way - with show info option. I am sure there are more devices bugged.
2nd issue - the selection of text in the chat is GONE!! u can copy now what 1 says - but you cant select and copy a conversation!
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:37:00 -
[165]
Originally by: blacknight9
Edited by: blacknight9 on 24/05/2006 11:24:26
Originally by: Caryna
Originally by: blacknight9
... This game is also about adaption. So stop moaning the old fonts and enjoy the new ones rather than flamming.
i wanna adapt ... but can u give me some bucks for new glasses ?
if u have no probs with the new font, be happy ...
U can change the font pixel width and also your resolution.
yes, but it does look hidious.
It was fine how it was pre-patch. infact, it was graet before the RMR patch, when "Warp Drive Active" was a wide, old looking font when you activated warp.
:/
Oh well.
Izo Azlion.
Sha Kharn.
Ascendant Frontier
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:46:00 -
[166]
Originally by: blacknight9
Edited by: blacknight9 on 24/05/2006 11:24:26
Originally by: Caryna
Originally by: blacknight9
... This game is also about adaption. So stop moaning the old fonts and enjoy the new ones rather than flamming.
i wanna adapt ... but can u give me some bucks for new glasses ?
if u have no probs with the new font, be happy ...
U can change the font pixel width and also your resolution.
There is an easy fix for this EVE-only problem.
Buy a new monitor.
But make sure to test it first with your grafic card. Not all EVE - grafic card - monitor combos do show the technically lacking font system sharp and clear. Especially expensive monitors do have problems.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:47:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Tachy
There is an easy fix for this EVE-only problem.
Buy a new monitor.
I prefer to terminate my account.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:50:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tachy
There is an easy fix for this EVE-only problem.
Buy a new monitor.
I prefer to terminate my account.
Over a font problem? Come on... if life havent treated you worse than this yet, you have something coming up.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:52:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Stalkin
I'd also like to see Kali delayed until every bug has been properly fixed.
Then you would be waiting a very long time. Having a 100% bug-free eve is not a realistic expectation. No software is 100% bug-free, least of all software that has a requirement to constantly adapt to the needs of it's user community.
There's also the issue that, if something is slated to be significantly re-done in Kali, it may actually be easier and faster to just make the new system, and thus fix the bug by proxy, rather than re-doing the current system to fix the bug, and then doing the new system.
Originally by: Stalkin
The problem at the moment as i see it is there is a constant influx of new stuff into the game which fair enough will have bugs but don't add more until those are properly smoothed over. Is the reason for constantly adding new content to stay competitive with other MMORGs?
I've had a read through the patch notes for this patch, and have found just one thing that could be considered "new stuff". And that's adding a new category to the petition system, which is hardly earth-shattering. Everything else is fixes to stuff that was broken, or balance changes to stuff that was unbalanced.
In fact, the last time we had any significant addition of new stuff was in 3896 (Blood patch). That's 2 patches and nearly 3 months ago. And the vast majority of the changes in that patch were fixes to existing stuff rather than adding new stuff. It's going to be another 4 months until Kali stage 1 hits (assuming the tentative timeline holds), so that's going to be at least 7 months between patches with any significant new stuff in it. And even the patches with significant new stuff in them have numerous fixes to existing stuff in them too.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.24 11:56:00 -
[170]
'Kali stage 1' is called 'Red Moon Rising' and it hit us back last year.
We're still suffering from unfinished features from the big content patch before Kali started.
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
Vaugue
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:01:00 -
[171]
I'm scared to log in
I haven't logged in since before patch day *shivers in fear*
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:05:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 24/05/2006 12:05:37
new fonts.
I like the changes. leave it. even with the flaws it's more readable. improvement.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:10:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tachy
There is an easy fix for this EVE-only problem.
Buy a new monitor.
I prefer to terminate my account.
Over a font problem? Come on... if life havent treated you worse than this yet, you have something coming up.
I refuse to pay money every month to spoil my eyes.
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:13:00 -
[174]
Wow my copy of eve was installed off the CD about 3 years ago and has been patched with each patch. I've not once reinstalled even after reinstalling WinXp a few times over the years and I have none of the issues most people here compain about.
Font, was fine before and still is fine, and I run eve at 16x12 on a 21" CRT, it's also fine at 1024x768 on a 14.5" tft laptop.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:31:00 -
[175]
Originally by: GouldFish
Wow my copy of eve was installed off the CD about 3 years ago and has been patched with each patch. I've not once reinstalled even after reinstalling WinXp a few times over the years and I have none of the issues most people here compain about.
Font, was fine before and still is fine, and I run eve at 16x12 on a 21" CRT, it's also fine at 1024x768 on a 14.5" tft laptop.
Are you aware of people who suffer Video Induced Motion Sickness? This font issue is similar. Some people get it, some dont. Cant understand why CCP keep fixing something that isnt broken or should be having the least priority.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:34:00 -
[176]
Font...looks marginally better on Ilyama monitors. Marginally, so it's still terrible :/
The lag when switching chat windows is really noticeable for me and VERY annoying.
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:36:00 -
[177]
At the moment I just wish the Forums weren't so slow...
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Nixda
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:37:00 -
[178]
I am one of these players who read the forums a lot, but usually dont post much.
This time however, i feel the need to comment on the font.
Yes, thats right, never mind the few bugs that were introduced, they're annoying, but CCP will eventually fix them.
Back when RMR came out, I considered the new font broken, but being a patient person, I assumed CCP would fix it eventually.
This new change however made it look absolutely horrible on my screen, its really an eye killer.
With others (although they seem not to be too many) thinking the font was fine, this seems to be related to resolution.
I'm not sure if the 5:4 res I'm running is the problem, or if it just needs a very high resolution to look bearable, but PLEASE make a set of selectable fonts and font sizes, so each user can set it to what works best for him. For me, the pre-RMR font worked fine btw, so if that could be one of the available choices, I'd be pretty happy about it.
I cant stress enough how much of a fun-killer this new font is, please make changing the matter a HIGH priority. I know this does sounds weird, but this is my major problem with the game at the moment, much worse than the (re)introduced bugs.
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Ab Tallen
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Posted - 2006.05.24 12:52:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Ab Tallen on 24/05/2006 12:56:07
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tachy
Buy a new monitor.
I prefer to terminate my account.
Over a font problem? Come on... if life havent treated you worse than this yet, you have something coming up.
It's hardly a life-threatening problem, but then, despite the pretty graphics, EVE is mostly a text-driven application.
There's just not much you can do without reading, be it menus, item descriptions, the overview, chat - well, mostly everything really. It won't work without a good font, and unfortunately, what exactly is a good font is very subjective. (And it's also hardware dependant, for example antialiased fonts look just horribly fuzzy on CRTs while non-antialiased fonts are a pain on most LCDs.)
Therefore, making the in-game font user configurable would be great - but I can already see people complaining that the game is unusable because they have selected Symbol as default font.
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Ab Tallen
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:01:00 -
[180]
On an unrelated note, the forums seem a bit broken, too: After submitting the above edited text, I got an "No Thread with this ID" - error back. After browsing back to the thread, the edit was in, though.
(Yesterday I also sometimes had the problem that this thread missed it's page navigation, although the overview clearly showed there were several pages in the thread.)
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:08:00 -
[181]
The font and all it's problems only appeared when they CHANGED it from the original font.
CCP COULD roll back, or change to a different font that supports the unicode, that also is legible, or ignore the paying customers and chance losing subscribtions as a few pointed out.
The game involves a LOT of reading of ingame menu's, so logic indicates that the provided font be legible at the settings allowed by the game. Currently the paying customers have to use the largest size and widest spacing to read the font (or buy a huge expensive monitor and uber vidcard, not a reasonable expectation "we could fix the font, but why dont you spend your hard earned income on hardware instead". Seems very wrong even to a non-gamer (people surveyed as they dropped in to visit me at home).
I would return a book that was printed in an unreadable font, but with Eve, suspension of the account until they correct the problem is the only alternative. (this means less incoming cash to CCP. My account may not be squat, but a few hundred, if not thousands of accounts does ammount to a sizable chunck of CASH. Remember, most dissatisfied customers never say a word, they just leave and never return.)
CCP, fire the font master, spank the font master, givem a wedgy, but for the love of arknor, FIX THE DAMNED FONT!
FRODO HAS FAILED;
BUSH HAS THE RING!!!
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Del ReyII
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:18:00 -
[182]
Just as a matter of interest I had a screenshot from Coldwar (aug '05) time, and decided to compare that with todays fonts. I only have the skill sheet at the moment but will serve as an example. Both were set to normal mode. Condensed is virtually unreadable in RMR.
Image 1
Image 2
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Vargrh
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:33:00 -
[183]
I think there must be a lot of Caldari haters in the dev team, as each successive patch seems to have something negative in store for the Caldari ship class.
I've been reviewing the changes to the precision cruise misile and it now does less damage then a standard precision and has no speed bonus over the standard (testing with wraith)...
Surely the point of the tech II would be increased rather then reduced damage output, increased range and increased speed... post patch we have none of this.
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Ikyon
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:39:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Ikyon on 24/05/2006 13:39:42
Bug report filed where corporations are facing a potential security threat where minerals in supposedly read-only corporation hangars can be used for building.
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Gorf King
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Posted - 2006.05.24 13:44:00 -
[185]
I can't get any linkage from the left-hand chat window pane - can't get info on char portraits, no r-click menu to gang, warp to, etc., URLs aren't active, items posted to window aren't active.
Also, no music kicks in after the accel gate(s) to dead space missions.
Bug report filed, natch.
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:01:00 -
[186]
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:02:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Gorf King
Also, no music kicks in after the accel gate(s) to dead space missions.
I consider that a fix, actually... always annoyed the heck outta me while playing with no music, every time I used one of those gate I had to turn off music again.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:14:00 -
[188]
Ok, I have to ask this really I do....Every patch expansion its the same "CCP ruined the font" But for the life of me I can not see it. I have looked in game...I have looked here at work....I have looked at linked screen shots...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE USEING? What type of monitor? What video card? Are you hooked into a plasma screen? I have never had an issue with the fonts...NEVER.
Work: 15" standard Dell monitor no special graphics.
Home: 21" HP with Gforce vid card with 256mb on board ram.
Fess up people....
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:18:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
Could CCP please show us what they see with the new font on their system? Normal text width, medium settings and some long text like in ship description please.
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:22:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Could CCP please show us what they see with the new font on their system? Normal text width, medium settings and some long text like in ship description please.
There is no new font. The font on TQ today is the same as the one being used last week. I already asked the Programmer who works on the font 3 times if it has been changed.
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:24:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
btw, who on the dev team got the bright idea that putting freetype2 technology into a game? Sure the technology itself is wonderful, but its far from perfect, especially performance wise. You all claim that it was for making the client unicode, but that was certainly possible using the bitmap font system, which as you may know, is a hell of alot better performance wise. Even tho around the CWE time period you guys were changing the UI framework (from what i can remember) but I think the workloads would have been the same either way. The bitmap way would have also saved you 6 months worth of problems with us lot and we would have still gotten to keep our old font...
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Arigato
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:32:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Arigato on 24/05/2006 14:33:26
Dern ALTS!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:33:00 -
[193]
I'm not going to read 5 pages of topics - this is just what I've noticed so far:
All of these assume large text mode, untested on other modes:
o 1/4 second lag when switching chat windows (very irritating when having to watch gang/local/corp/alliance)
o links in chat don't work if they span 2 lines
o bookmark links don't work anymore
o The mouse-over high-lighting of people's names has gone in the chat windows
o links are now no-longer underlined
o apparently, the dreading & bug is back when copying links from the client.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:40:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Tachy
There is an easy fix for this EVE-only problem.
Buy a new monitor.
I prefer to terminate my account.
Over a font problem? Come on... if life havent treated you worse than this yet, you have something coming up.
I refuse to pay money every month to spoil my eyes.
I read all this... and then I read this...
Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
And all I can say is, Jenny... Can I have your stuff?
Originally by: Sarmaul
I'm not going to read 5 pages of topics - this is just what I've noticed so far:
All of these assume large text mode, untested on other modes:
o 1/4 second lag when switching chat windows (very irritating when having to watch gang/local/corp/alliance)
o links in chat don't work if they span 2 lines
o bookmark links don't work anymore
o The mouse-over high-lighting of people's names has gone in the chat windows
o links are now no-longer underlined
o apparently, the dreading & bug is back when copying links from the client.
The links aren't underlined... but they're orange while everything else is white. Why that would matter is still unknown to me. However, the links going to mroe than one line thing is the same for me as well... they don't work. I can't see how a quarter of a second lag would be annoying. It literally takes longer to switch over to each channel. Snap your fingers and the time it takes you to hear the sound is a quarter of a second. As for the higlighting somebody's name, it was working fine for me.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:44:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/05/2006 14:44:51
Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font. It is possible that your personal settings for font spacing (condensed/expanded) may have been reset. The non english langage font (eg, the one used for russian) has been changed in this patch, and the problems with this are being worked on at present.
Please note that I am speaking about the font itself, and not about other related issues such as the spacing between lines, and the loss of selecting blocks of text for copying.
The text looks different though. Did you change the horizontal spacing between characters perhaps?
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Flyyn
Ok, I have to ask this really I do....Every patch expansion its the same "CCP ruined the font" But for the life of me I can not see it. I have looked in game...I have looked here at work....I have looked at linked screen shots...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE USEING? What type of monitor?
It's not what people are using to display it, it's the eyes they're using to look at it. Just like some people can read upside-down, and others can't; or some people can read prose with missing letters or words without really noticing it. The RMR font changed the shape of the characters, as well as their relative spacing. To some people, it just looked different. To others, it now causes eye-strain trying to resolve them.
A very low dot-pitch display will help avoid blur due to pixels landing between the phosphors (or whatever LCD panels use), but I believe it's still the change to the shape that's causing most of the trouble.
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Posted - 2006.05.24 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
I can't see how a quarter of a second lag would be annoying. It literally takes longer to switch over to each channel. Snap your fingers and the time it takes you to hear the sound is a quarter of a second. As for the higlighting somebody's name, it was working fine for me.
it might have been longer than 1/4 second. all i know is that it wasn't there before and it is defintly noticable and very annoying when you want/need to switch between channels quickly
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Dillon Braveheart
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Posted - 2006.05.24 15:32:00 -
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Drones will no longer auto-target gang or corp members if that member has been aggressively flagged to you recently.
Drones are NOT fixed they still keep attacking my gang/Corp mates
prolly posted already but didnt wanna read as i got a headache
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.05.24 16:15:00 -
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Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.24 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
Does this mean that CCP relys solely on our rants to get things "known" or fixed?
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
Does this mean that CCP relys solely on our rants to get things "known" or fixed?
No, but customer feedback ALWAYS helps.
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Clavius XIV
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Posted - 2006.05.24 17:44:00 -
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Drone orbit velocity bug is in:
Drone navigation impacts drone orbit speed as well as their mwd speed, as a result training drone navigation reduces drone damage. This was fixed shortly after RMR, then it crept back in and hasn't been fixed.
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Originally by: Gothikia
Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
Does this mean that CCP relys solely on our rants to get things "known" or fixed?
No, but customer feedback ALWAYS helps.
How long have you been playing this game? CCP talks a good game about listening to their customers but the bug fixing proves otherwise.
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Ab Tallen
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Posted - 2006.05.24 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
This patch held no changes for the default English language font.
I'm stumped.
I don't have access to the machine where I use the condensed font setting right now, but I compared screenshots from before and after the patch at home, with the font set to 10pix/normal at 1152x864x32 in an attempt to prove there was a change: It's absolutely the same. 
The font on minimized stacks seems to be different, though: I have the impression it was compressed and brighter before the patch.
Also, the font in general doesn't work too well on a black background: As far as I can see, characters have a dark shadow, which works well on bright backgrounds, but makes it look very thin otherwise. The antialiasing doesn't help there either.
Can I be so confused? I'll decide when I have compared screenshots on the box I used yesterday when I wrote the font was changed
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:12:00 -
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The font is unchanged. It is still the same badly designed font.
The way it is presentated has been changed.
Just look at the system name in the upper left corner.
The 'Current System' and the system name are now glued together. That didn't happen before the bugfix ...
There are little changes like that all over.
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siliconix
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:24:00 -
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It seems the memoryleak that lots of people suffered from in rmr patch, is now hitting me as well, just noticed exefile.exe using like 600 megs of memory.
I've only had that issue when shooting POS/stations before, this time it was after a couple of hours of ratting.
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ralphie crom
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: ralphie crom on 24/05/2006 22:11:32
Originally by: Mephysto
Updated the Known Issues page with problems found since the patch (scroll to the bottom of the page). Some things we still need more information on please.
well i have a "known issue", with regards to the af signature radius being raised......is there an inkling to reverse nerf that nerf, or could we have an enlightenment as to why these t2 ships are being changed for a "balance" reason?
i understand the logic behind the wording, "brought into line with its t1 counterpart" but was there a call for this change? i really enjoy flying my enyo and ishkurs, now it seems that they and many other ships are being rendered....un-unique.
i fear that the direction that you guys are headed is to make EVE into a "fit for all ages" and simplified game......precisely the reason that i left SWG after years of "game balancing"; they ruined the game.....i dont wish that for EVE, i have had too much fun becoming unique, to have that slowly stripped away again in the interest of "equality on the battlefield for all players, no matter what their skills".
please dont tell me that you are going to start adjusting dmg based upon skill point level as well, i.e., some kind of curve so that only similar sp lvl characters can pvp against each other with no handicaps.
what is the big picture here, are you going to soften the game in the hopes of attracting younger crowds, or players with attention deficit disorder? if this is the case, would you consider splintering the game for those of us who prefer challenge and diversity?
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
The font is unchanged. It is still the same badly designed font.
The way it is presentated has been changed.
Just look at the system name in the upper left corner.
The 'Current System' and the system name are now glued together. That didn't happen before the bugfix ...
There are little changes like that all over.
the font still blows/sucks/hurts-eyes-of-baby-jesus...
there is a thread with a mod that makes the font LEGIBLE but its a EULA breaker and a banning offense....yes kiddies, you can be banned from eve for doing a little thing like usoing a font that lets you read the menus and chat without causing headaches/eye-bleeds/vomiting.
CCP fix the font, fire the font master currently in office and PAY ATTENTION TO THE CUSOMERS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE FONT THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE SINCE YOU CHANGED IT TO THIS PILE-OF-POOO FONT.
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Posted - 2006.05.25 00:23:00 -
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Thank you CCP for stealth fixing the outpost renaming issue
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.05.25 00:36:00 -
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"You have been banned from 651394709, or it does not allow public acces"
Message I get on one of my characters everytime he docks/undocks/change ships/jumps into a new system. This happened after this patch and after my corporation left the alliance. It's my only character that has this "feature" even if I have other characters in the same corporation/former alliance and played from the same Eve install.
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Ianem
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Posted - 2006.05.25 00:45:00 -
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I was annoyed by the font change at first but have got used to it now. The links not working in chat when they are split across lines is really annoying though.
Two bugs I've seen since the patch that I haven't read here:
- When you Alt-Tab out of Eve and then back into it, the mouse pointer disappears, you can get it to come back by moving it to the far left of the screen. This seems to happen every time.
- Once when I undocked, I couldn't see my ship, dock, or anything else (though the icons were still in the correct positions). I warped to a gate (which I also couldn't see), but when I jumped through the gate it all started working again.
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Virtuozzo
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Posted - 2006.05.25 01:16:00 -
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CCP ... how many more months will it take you to fix the damn amarr factory outposts ... after countless bug reports, petitions and encouraging responses and even irc confirmation you just keep forgetting to go over the allowed items listings on assembly lines.
Come on ...
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.05.25 02:13:00 -
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still no CEO divisional wallets - character days since last login info (inactives) and amarr outposts still dont work propelry
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.25 02:27:00 -
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OK call me crazy but since the patch release I actually find EVE to be MORE laggy than before. Today I got an abnormal amount of stuttering which I rarely ever encountered prepatch. I mean like frame rate dropping to like 1-2 frame sper sec. I was all excited about the patch meaning less lag and now I find it's the same or worse.
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Makaera Koshito
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Posted - 2006.05.25 05:34:00 -
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Well, I like the non-new font.
I play on dial-up and since the patch, log-in time has been drastically reduced, which I like a lot.
The only real complaint I have is that if you try to link to loot/owned items in the chat, the item has to be on one line, instead of two, or else it won't work.
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:01:00 -
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Ingame browser locks up while loading sites (ie menues not working)
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:22:00 -
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The client totally locks up until the combat log is open and displayed.
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2006.05.25 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
"I am having an issue with <insert problem here>." would be allowed. "*&( CCP, can't you ever deploy a &*(^$#*( patch right!!!111elevenone" is negative and will be acted upon. Savvy?
oooh that might be prime siggy material, oh and on topic, no issues yet.
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Elerie Dana
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Posted - 2006.05.25 09:59:00 -
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I too am experiencing the Memory Leak, crashed to desktop 7 times in a 6 hour period while mission running yesterday. My DSL connection is fine, this never happened prior to the new patch. Please fix this I haven't lost a ship yet but it's only a matter of time and I don't want to be replacing ships due to game crashes (it's ok when I screw up though). CCP please read the Dealing with Crashes thread, I'm not the only one having this problem.
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:23:00 -
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1. The space between chat lines in chat is too big.
2. When I minamise a window and restore it, the scroll bar is gone for the members in the channel, I have to resize the window to get it to show.
3. Some items don't seem to want to link in chat, example, "type-d power core modification: capacitor power relay", it shows up as yellow in chat, but you can't click on it. Not sure if it's doing this for other modules too.
All I've found so far...
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Kovach Lyudozherc
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:15:00 -
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there is still no word about drone agro bug. i'm surprised as it is a major bug, that prevents non caldari players to run missions in normal ammounts of time.
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:48:00 -
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the missile reload bug is still not fixed
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Khatred
"You have been banned from 651394709, or it does not allow public acces"
Message I get on one of my characters everytime he docks/undocks/change ships/jumps into a new system. This happened after this patch and after my corporation left the alliance. It's my only character that has this "feature" even if I have other characters in the same corporation/former alliance and played from the same Eve install.
That's coming from a chat channel you didn't leave before your corporation quit the alliance. Or... its coming from some chat channel that you're no longer aloud in, but your access was removed before you quit the channel/while you were logged off. That's been happening for a while before the patch, its not really a bug. I forget how I got it to stop with me, but I believe it was go into the Channels window, find the channel, and remove myself from it.
As for the Assault Friggate Sig Radius... please un-do your "fix." What's the point of having a TECH 2!! friggate that is more like it's T1 predecessor? Next we'll be increasing frigate capacitor sizes to compete with battleships and lowering battleships HP so that they are more in-line with their friggate predecessors. There are (or at least there used to be) reasons people should trainup to a better ship... but... that reason seems to be eluding the Dev team... yes? no? I lean towards yes.
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Dupac
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:45:00 -
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I don't mind the new font (new font presentation - it does look different even if it's the same one)
The reasoning behind the AF signature nerf still escapes me. This is an underused ship class that no one was asking for a nerf for. It is now rendered even more useless than it was before, there were loads of posts asking for AF boosts, so I'd be very keen to hear the logic behind reducing their usefullness.
Saying that they need to be brought into line with their tech I counterparts makes no sense - as they are Tech II ships! If I wanted to fly tech I ships all day I wouldn't have bothered with all the training.........
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Posted - 2006.05.25 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Eewec Ourbyni on 25/05/2006 18:56:08
Originally by: Ianem
Two bugs I've seen since the patch that I haven't read here:
- When you Alt-Tab out of Eve and then back into it, the mouse pointer disappears, you can get it to come back by moving it to the far left of the screen. This seems to happen every time.
- Once when I undocked, I couldn't see my ship, dock, or anything else (though the icons were still in the correct positions). I warped to a gate (which I also couldn't see), but when I jumped through the gate it all started working again.
They both happened to me pre-patch, if you move the mouse about the pointer comes back if it goes over an open window or the left hand menu, or pretty much anything else where the pointer would change, thus updating it's display image (of the mouse pointer).
On your second point, this has happened for many weeks if you login and try travelling to soon after a server reboot... the game hasn't finished loading into the server before you get there... post-gate-jump it all clears cos its had more time to load the next system.
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Posted - 2006.05.25 23:13:00 -
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My mining guide has been written over 2 months ago and has been somewhat successful, and I got a lot of feedbacks, as well as many questions... I would REALLY like for a dev to read the following list and tell us what is working, or at least HOW it should work so I can better update the guide and let the community know...
Problem 1 - Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization
Although the link appears in the known issues list, many of us would like to know how it should work. Current situation is that:
1) The skill and the link do not stack
2) Squadron Command skill also affects the foreman link. Description reads:
Improved gang leadership. Boosts effectiveness of all
warfare link modules by 10% per level.
There is no mention of foreman link modules, so is it a description error or a bug? Can you confirm once it will work whick skill will affect the link?
Problem 2 - Mining Foreman Mindlink
According to the description, the implant should be giving the following bonuses:
1) 15% bonus to yield of the wearer
2) 50% bonus to Foreman Skill
3) 50% bonus to the effect of the mining foreman links
Which means, that an implant wearer should receive 15% from foreman V when ganged (10% * 1.5) and 15% from the implant itself. If the implant wearing is in a BC the laser optimization link should be giving 15% also.
Can you confirm those are the right numbers? Although I have the implant I cannot wear it yet, and the many reports I have received were all very unclear. Althought its clear it doesn't work as intended yet, can you tell us how it will work when it does ?
Thank you for your attention to these problems !
Much obliged,
Halada
Edit: after some more testing...
Mining Foreman Mindlink does NOTHING
- Quite simple, somebody had the implant in and when doing the math, the mindlink gives no bonus whatsoever to the wearer nor does it enhance the mining foreman skill bonus. Completely broken.
Michi mining implant cancels foreman skill bonus, HX implant however works.
- A corpmate said before he installed the michi mining implant, when ganged, he could see the effect of the foreman skill enhancing his yield. Since he plugged the michi in his yield stays the same regardless if he is ganged or not.
An official bug report has been made but it'd be nice to know when this will be fixed as these implants are VERY expansive and paying hundreds of millions of ISK for worthless sh*t is not fun.
Thank you for your attention.
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.05.26 08:14:00 -
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Well, I haven't noticed anyone say this one earlier but since I'm not 100% if this is a new bug I'd like to get a confirmation first before filing a bug report.
This bug is about private chat channels: I was invited to one couple of weeks ago and I got kicked out from it (while being offline) yesterday. Ever since every time I warp to a new system, change my ship, dock or undock I get that "You are not invited to [channelname]" or whatever the error message was...anyway, it's annoying and I'd like to know how to get rid of it.
Also my chat window order keeps changing, I have everything in two sets: Intel [1/2/3] and everything else like corp chat and such. [4/5/6/7]. If I swap the windows to the number order above, when I log back in the they're [2/3/1] and [4/5/7/6].
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Posted - 2006.05.26 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: ****c
I don't mind the new font (new font presentation - it does look different even if it's the same one)
The reasoning behind the AF signature nerf still escapes me. This is an underused ship class that no one was asking for a nerf for. It is now rendered even more useless than it was before, there were loads of posts asking for AF boosts, so I'd be very keen to hear the logic behind reducing their usefullness.
Saying that they need to be brought into line with their tech I counterparts makes no sense - as they are Tech II ships! If I wanted to fly tech I ships all day I wouldn't have bothered with all the training.........
I fly AFs. In fact, I fly all T1 and T2 of Minmatar and Amarr, as well as all T1 frigates of Caldari, as well as many faction frigates. In fact, friends of mine call me "The Frigate Master" or "The Laramon Drone", and I'd like to think the reason is because I am effective using the ships I prefer: FRIGATES.
The reason they "nerfed" Assault Frigates is simple: the signature radius was way too low. Take Amarr for example: Malediction (my favorite Interceptor) has a base sig radius of 33m. The Retribution had a sig radius of 30m. Tell me why an Interceptor had a higher base sig radius than an Assault Frigate. Especailly when the T1 Punisher it is based off of has a signature radius of 38. When I read the message that the sig radius was getting raised to be in line with the T1 counterparts, I told my friends "I bet they'll raise the Retribution to 35 sig radius." Well guess what? That's the exact # that it was given. And I'm not complaining, because it was an obvious typo on their part. In fact, I hardly notice it at all.
Interceptors are supposed to have better a signature radius than an assault frigate, regardless. Yes, I know they get bonuses to it, but what's the point of an interceptor if an assault frigate starts out 3m sig radius lower? It just doesn't make any sense.
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Oron
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Posted - 2006.05.26 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
Anyone else noticed that it takes longer to switch chat channels?
It seams to be that it lags 1-2sec more then usually?
yes it takes ~1-2sec to switch channles, very annoying (/me has normaly 10 chans in 2 windows open..)
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.05.26 15:18:00 -
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Probably not patch related, but when your ship is too close to stations, stargates etc and the station/stargate/whatever isn't "selected" (by the left-click to make a white box around it method), the icon for the station/stargate/whatever will disappear.
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Posted - 2006.05.27 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Khatred
"You have been banned from 651394709, or it does not allow public acces"
Message I get on one of my characters everytime he docks/undocks/change ships/jumps into a new system. This happened after this patch and after my corporation left the alliance. It's my only character that has this "feature" even if I have other characters in the same corporation/former alliance and played from the same Eve install.
Got this same problem, with the same 'just left alliance' situation, but only when playing on a different PC (and of course eve install) than my usual one, I don't get it on my normal comp.
It realy does become unbelievably annoying when traveling any distance.
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Posted - 2006.05.28 23:38:00 -
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I've filed a couple bug reports, though the bugs are not 3910 specific, they don't have the attention of the Known Issues page yet.
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.05.29 17:40:00 -
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There should be a new Bloodlines patch coming up on Singularity in this week. Depending on the testing effort, we should see that one coming out within the next two weeks. If we get enough people on Singularity and some solid feedback, we might make it for next Tuesday (the 6th)! Stay tuned for preliminary patchnotes and more Singularity news. We should get a lot of content fixes/improvements in and a number of chat fixes.
Thanks!
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Kitty O'Shay
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Posted - 2006.05.29 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
There should be a new Bloodlines patch coming up on Singularity in this week. Depending on the testing effort, we should see that one coming out within the next two weeks. If we get enough people on Singularity and some solid feedback, we might make it for next Tuesday (the 6th)! Stay tuned for preliminary patchnotes and more Singularity news. We should get a lot of content fixes/improvements in and a number of chat fixes.
Thanks!
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Good to hear!
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.05.30 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lorette on 30/05/2006 02:54:07
Should probably check through the post first but every since/soon after the last patch my HUD has been 'bung'. For example my shield and capacitor indicator hasnt worked all week (can be 100% cap showing all the time 98%, 60% its constantly changing but never fully working, same for shield).
And also the chat boxes keep moving to a new position which although not game breaking is slightly annoying since i usually just click there without reading the titles.
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