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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:36:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:But at least some enterprising, focused group could try ramming through a ton of industry in one system to see how quickly it ramps up in cost. Unfortunately, that group will be the goons, looking for ways to exploit the system that they don't already know. Why is it unfortunate that the system is tested and the mechanics made clear? It seems to be the exact reason why we even have sisi, and it's the reason why people will flock to it to probe those mechanics. Oh, and everyone already knows how to exploit the system GÇö hint: it involves a lot of highsec work. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kaius Fero
43
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:38:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Agreed on the social part. Sisi never gets the crowd on it to get a true picture. But at least some enterprising, focused group could try ramming through a ton of industry in one system to see how quickly it ramps up in cost. Unfortunately, that group will be the goons, looking for ways to exploit the system that they don't already know. Nope, everybody whom take EVE and their profession seriously will be on SISI, it's mandatory.
PS & OT: mynnna, do something with your avatar face, it looks like she got beaten and over abused ... |
Potions Master
GearBunny Redrum Fleet
4
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:39:00 -
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Can we get a definitive list of what is going to be in Kronos? It's hard to really see what's part of the industry revamp and what wasn't.
Btw: It would still be nice to get some of the things from the industry patches that are ready to use, such as the refining/compression arrays and the prospect. The ore stuff and tower updates certainly don't need the rest of the industry parts to run right? Part of your new release paradigm is that you can release stuff that's ready and hold off the stuff that isn't for 6 weeks... so break things up so you can release the bigger things in parts (Such as industry... I don't see why the ore/refining/tower stuff needs to be delayed when it looks ready.) Also, would love to see it all on Singularity sooner rather than later... :) |
Max Goldwing
Homeworld Republic The East India Co.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:41:00 -
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Isotope jump usage increase which release ? |
Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
548
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:45:00 -
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Kaius Fero wrote:PS & OT: mynnna, do something with your avatar face, it looks like she got beaten and over abused ...
It is the pained expression we all feel when reading a Dinsdale post The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3472
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:45:00 -
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Kaius Fero wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Agreed on the social part. Sisi never gets the crowd on it to get a true picture. But at least some enterprising, focused group could try ramming through a ton of industry in one system to see how quickly it ramps up in cost. Unfortunately, that group will be the goons, looking for ways to exploit the system that they don't already know. Nope, everybody whom take EVE and their profession seriously will be on SISI, it's mandatory. PS & OT: mynnna, do something with your avatar face, it looks like she got beaten and over abused ...
Yeah I overdid the whole "exhausted yet contemptuous" look. I'll have to fix it later. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
552
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:46:00 -
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Max Goldwing wrote:Isotope jump usage increase which release ? Crius. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1820
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:54:00 -
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So... last expansion of old release cycle is even smaller than before? Well, that's... interesting. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Seith Kali
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:56:00 -
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mynnna wrote: Yeah I overdid the whole "exhausted yet contemptuous" look. I'll have to fix it later.
Heh, could be worse. I hit random a few times until the poor girl looked like she was dropped down the stairs as a small child. She's never really recovered.
Back on topic, frankly it is going to be good to see some dev action in the feedback threads now there is a bit of elbow room for them. Apprentice Goonswarm Economic Warfare Consultant - Drowning in entitlement and privilege.-á |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
210
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:57:00 -
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Sounds good. Gives us more time to test these things on Singularity which is a good move.
So are there any major changes which are going to happen as a result of feedback you have received so far? I assume some things will be changing or else the expansion wouldn't have been pushed back.
Also is there any ETA on when the invention changes are coming? I reckon that you may as well just get these all finished and release it together as a whole patch. There is no point in releasing things half baked now that we have expansions every 6 weeks. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
2168
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:05:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:So... last expansion of old release cycle is even smaller than before? Well, that's... interesting. The Kronos release on 3 June is the first release in the new model. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
1489
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:05:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Zifrian wrote:Good by me. I was getting worried that you weren't going to release the data and changes on sisi in time to test third party tools. Can you give an estimate for when we can expect this? I would really like to get an updated version of iph up when the patch goes live and sisi testing will be key to that.
Thanks The plan is to push the changes to SiSi around June 10 with APIs, giving people around 5 weeks to help test and update their tools. Fantastic. Thanks! GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
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Ralitge boyter
Nihilistic Techologies
2
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:14:00 -
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Thank you, looking at the amount of stuff that is being changed updated and improved it is a good thing to see CCP taking the high road and admitting that the time available till the next release is not enough to get all the work done and tested before than. Thanks to the process improvements that allow the higher number of releases this means we are not going to have to wait 10 years for this to be implemented... like comments |
Seith Kali
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:20:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: No, I expect not, since you and your group architected this overhaul.
Absolutely. We decided to push it back because weasilor is washing his hair on the 3rd and didn't want to miss the show. Apprentice Goonswarm Economic Warfare Consultant - Drowning in entitlement and privilege.-á |
asteroidjas
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
43
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:25:00 -
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So long as you are changing it to allow me to invent a Megatron Federate Issue out of Mexalon, Skiff, and Projectile ammo... Awesomesause
Seriously though, it would be great to have ACTUAL examples of how some of these new industry/research systems will work.
Also, considering you gave us players 2 WHOLE MONTHS with the Unified Inventory change on SiSi, during which many begged you to postpone and change...and you still released it in a poorly broken/not-thought-out-well state. How exactly is "6 weeks" going to be an sufficient amount of testing time, when it is also during the period of time most of CCP runs away from work and nothing Eve-wise gets touched for a couple of months? |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
42
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:27:00 -
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Freighter and Jump Freighter rebalancing - Kinda industry, but also ship rabalancing...
Kronos or Crius?? |
Flay Nardieu
Forgotten Union of Knackered Tradesfolk Universal Rockstars
34
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:33:00 -
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Good to see CCP paying attention, the S&I changes that where slated for Kronos being pushed back to the iteration after it makes a huge amount of sense.
I know it is too soon to get a final word on couple issues but I would like to keep them fresh in the Dev minds.
- Removing remote from office BP work is bad, acceptable compromise would be limiting it to BPO research and copy
- It would be nice if the opening of high-sec anchoring w/o standings was limited initially to 0.5 then maybe increase to 0.6 depending on density
- Multiple modules at a POS and scaling issues, personally I like hard cap on jobs per module/lab
Just reminder, I'll reserve raving like a rabid holler monkey on meth till after it hits Sisi So... I am a carebear, Really?-á Ok.... I'll be CRAZY Bear then! |
token trade alt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:33:00 -
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I'm honestly just happy you're working on industry for once. However long it takes, just as long as it works when you push it out. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
9974
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:35:00 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:Freighter and Jump Freighter rebalancing - Kinda industry, but also ship rabalancing...
Kronos or Crius??
Kronos. All of the previously announced ship and module balancing is still scheduled for Kronos.
The one exception is the capital jump drive fuel use increase which is being delayed to Crius. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
253
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:41:00 -
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Although industry changes are fresh and exciting, it's a big bite to swallow even for players. I can only imagine how it is from developer's perspective.
It's much better to take your time and postpone deployment especially considering the amount of feedback players provided on 6 huge devblogs.
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Potions Master
GearBunny Redrum Fleet
4
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:41:00 -
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@CCP:
Can we get a definitive list of what's in Kronos instead of having to ask about individual things over and over? (Yes, I know I just asked this last page, but you seem to have skipped over it because I asked two questions. Now I'm just asking the one...) |
token trade alt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:46:00 -
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Potions Master wrote:@CCP:
Can we get a definitive list of what's in Kronos instead of having to ask about individual things over and over? (Yes, I know I just asked this last page, but you seem to have skipped over it because I asked two questions. Now I'm just asking the one...)
Yeah, a 'patch notes subject to change' list ahead of time would be nice. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1014
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:48:00 -
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YES!!!! THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!! |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7376
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:52:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:Freighter and Jump Freighter rebalancing - Kinda industry, but also ship rabalancing...
Kronos or Crius?? Kronos. All of the previously announced ship and module balancing is still scheduled for Kronos. The one exception is the capital jump drive fuel use increase which is being delayed to Crius. When are the details on the freighter/dst thing getting posted? Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. CCP Announces T2 BPOs being removed in the near future, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTyMhSKY9E-áat 22:20 |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1014
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:54:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Glad to see that there will be time to tweak the things that have been mentioned as needing a bit of work. From memory, I think those are:
1) POS - the new lowsec array and making the arrays have some sort of cost thingie 2) Copying - Figuring out the correct formula and other tweeks needed (e.g. capital component bpc amounts increasing)_ 3) Correct application of these changes to t2 bpos
Any others?
PAhhhhhlase.
The needs things that need tweaks are: Research overhaul (everything about it). Cost scaling based on solar system rather than facility usage. Teams that would have given a MASSIVE advantage to huge corps and crushed small corps. ME reductions for POS/Outpost.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7376
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:58:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote: PAhhhhhlase.
The needs things that need tweaks are: Research overhaul (everything about it). Cost scaling based on solar system rather than facility usage. Teams that would have given a MASSIVE advantage to huge corps and crushed small corps. ME reductions for POS/Outpost.
I'm referring to the issues that greyscale and the other devs have posted about thinking over and potentially needing to change, not the irrelevant complaints you've been c/ping over and over again. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
42
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:59:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:Freighter and Jump Freighter rebalancing - Kinda industry, but also ship rabalancing...
Kronos or Crius?? Kronos. All of the previously announced ship and module balancing is still scheduled for Kronos. The one exception is the capital jump drive fuel use increase which is being delayed to Crius. When are the details on the freighter/dst thing getting posted?
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Micheal York Solette
Joe Solette Corporation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:00:00 -
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Hi
I have a suggestion. If all the BPO's & BPC's can be accessed in the cans then we can lock those down in Aduit Cans. Set it up so that a Corp can lock down the Aduit cans so they don't get stolen and that way we can bring in new members in to the Corps without mixing up BPO's. This also means no one can steal them ethier, it's easier for a Corp to relocate, or just moving the BPO's somewhere to research them. And for the BPO thiefs out there after you have the BPO's you could boot the guy out of Corp even if you don't know the Password because in 30 days after you can repackage those cans and then the BPO's are unlock and yours.
I know as a Ceo that Locking and Unlock large amounts of BPO's has always been a pain. This would go a long way to help resolve this problem.
MYS |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
42
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:04:00 -
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Micheal York Solette wrote:Hi I have a suggestion. If all the BPO's & BPC's can be accessed in the cans then we can lock those down in Aduit Cans. Set it up so that a Corp can lock down the Aduit cans so they don't get stolen and that way we can bring in new members in to the Corps without mixing up BPO's. This also means no one can steal them ethier, it's easier for a Corp to relocate, or just moving the BPO's somewhere to research them. And for the BPO thiefs out there after you have the BPO's you could boot the guy out of Corp even if you don't know the Password because in 30 days after you can repackage those cans and then the BPO's are unlock and yours. I know as a Ceo that Locking and Unlock large amounts of BPO's has always been a pain. This would go a long way to help resolve this problem. MYS
You can already do this - remove the ability to take containers from a POS module - lock container |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1014
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:16:00 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:Micheal York Solette wrote:Hi I have a suggestion. If all the BPO's & BPC's can be accessed in the cans then we can lock those down in Aduit Cans. Set it up so that a Corp can lock down the Aduit cans so they don't get stolen and that way we can bring in new members in to the Corps without mixing up BPO's. This also means no one can steal them ethier, it's easier for a Corp to relocate, or just moving the BPO's somewhere to research them. And for the BPO thiefs out there after you have the BPO's you could boot the guy out of Corp even if you don't know the Password because in 30 days after you can repackage those cans and then the BPO's are unlock and yours. I know as a Ceo that Locking and Unlock large amounts of BPO's has always been a pain. This would go a long way to help resolve this problem. MYS You can already do this - remove the ability to take containers from a POS module - lock container
The point of lock is to let people use but not take. The regular "can't take" means they also can't start a job using. |
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