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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
Can I have your stuff? ----------------
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.31 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
I would rather have an assistant community manager that has been involved in the game from a very early stage than some nobody who got the job because he wore a sharp suite and claimed to "care about the players", even if it is wrangler 
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.05.31 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
If you are refering to Wrangler, he has been involved with EVE since the early beta and a member of the vol team for just as long. I think he has proven himself more than capable of filling the job requirements. When presented with the option to offer him a position, I did so with no second thoughts.
He's not the first (Redundancy, Hammerhead, Mephysto, t20 and others), nor the last volunteer (Xamother and others in the near future) who has been or will be hired into the company from the vol program.
Kindly ensure you have your facts straight before trolling away.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Ultim8Evil
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Posted - 2006.05.31 23:06:00 -
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pwnd --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.05.31 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
Yes cause hiring people off the street is a better option than hiring people who have shown long-term dedication to making the game better.
Lay off the ***** please
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Horsefly
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Posted - 2006.05.31 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
Wow how does it feel to be a complete donkey in front of everyone. I for one would much rather see someone from the comunity work on the game I love then someone who has only heard of WOW and thinks that is the best MMO out there. You are a short-busser my friend.
Tootles
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Liquid Vision
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Posted - 2006.06.01 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Liquid Vision on 01/06/2006 00:16:09 Accusing devs/GMs of constantly cheating and taking advantage of their exclusive knowledge/experience is absurd. It is also equally as absurd to suggest that no dev/GM has ever affected EVE in a significant way through said experience/knowledge or will never do so again. Why? People are people and people tend to do stupid/irrational/selfish things from time to time.
I have to believe that on some level CCP, by letting its employees participate in EVE on Tranquility with the teeming masses, has put itself on a slippery slope. I think they should have all the ability to play EVE that they want, but seperate and apart from Tranquility and those people that P-A-Y to participate in a structured and supposedly fair environment. We have bug reporters and the like to shoot any problems with EVE to the devs for them to fix and they could get all the gameplay experience they needed to "stay in touch" by inhabiting their own environment/shard/whatever and getting feedback from people here on the forums and whatnot.
Why did Eve (the original one in the Bible) eat from the Tree of Life even after the boss man, G-O-D himself, told her not to? Blame Satan all ya want, but it was because it was there and shouldn't be done. I'm glad CCP believes they know all their employees well enough to trust them not to break the rules or whatever, but that's a bad way to go. How long before someone goes "postal" and decides to take advantage of their situation while conveniently forgetting to tell his/her colleagues at CCP?
Also, who's to say that the devs don't get together (a few of them) and decide that it would be fun to see this or that happen? You say that it takes a lot of work to run an alliance and so they wouldn't be able to do that and work simultaneously. This is true, but let's not negate the power of suggestion in a group setting. The dev/devs in question don't have to actually make a decision to take their alliance or whatever to war, etc. they just have to be in some position of authority (I know Ascendant and other big alliances have Co-CEOs, board members, etc. out of neccessity) to influence decisions. This in and of itself doesn't mean that CCP had some ulterior motive to wipe an alliance out or keep these folks in check or whatever, but we're back to that slippery slope. It is inherently a conflict of interests. If you are a CCP employee your real life livelihood depends on EVE and it being a popular game that is in demand. So, conceivably, devs/gms inside the game could do things (purposely or subconciously) to keep it exciting and fresh. This is just an idea and not an accusation, but it is easy to see how having devs in the game could possibly become a problem. Slippery slope.
So, again, to say that ALL the GMs/devs are using their positions ALL THE TIME to have an unfair advantage/effect on EVE is ridiculous. However, to also say that NO GM/dev has EVER used their position or WILL use their position in such a way is as equally ridiculous a statement.
Maybe CCP needs to reevaluate its code of ethics in regards to employee participation inside EVE. I, for one, don't think that CCP employees are cheating. However, just the possibility of it happening because employees are allowed to play is the problem. Also, I love EVE too much (even after just a few months) to see it go down the crapper because some dev was caught manipulating the game somehow. The public outroar stemming from the knowledge that someone like a CYVOK, SirMolle, Blacklight, Svetlanna, etc. was a GM/dev would tear this game apart, IMHO. Just like the only way to 100% keep yourself free of STDs/pregnancy is abstinence. . .the only way to 100% ensure no wrongdoing from GM/devs is to keep CCP employees off of Tranquility.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.06.01 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Other than the ISD incident Oveur refered to (Blog Link), there hasn't been an incident of abuse that I am aware of.
AFAIK, there has been atleast one GM fired for cheating, way back in 2003 or so. It's ancient history and CCP dealt with it like they should have.
teh ioctl doesn't mine - he looks at the asteroids and they warp to the nearest station and refine themselves. |

Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.06.01 01:21:00 -
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What I'd like to know, is every dev in an alliance?
Remind me about The Maze.
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Zuper Phrend
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Posted - 2006.06.01 03:47:00 -
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I bet half of them sit in newbie corporations mining veldspar in jita all day.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2006.06.01 03:55:00 -
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I can't tell you how many times people have asked me if I worked for CCP as a Dev or a member of ISD.  ---
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JafoPBCFR
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Posted - 2006.06.01 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear 1. ALL of them, or 99% proabably any way. how can u develop a game and not play it
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.06.01 05:47:00 -
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Edited by: Bacchuss on 01/06/2006 05:48:36
Originally by: kieron
Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
If you are refering to Wrangler, he has been involved with EVE since the early beta and a member of the Evol team for just as long. I think he has proven himself more than capable of filling the job requirements. When presented with the option to offer him a position, I did so with no second thoughts.
He's not the first (Redundancy, Hammerhead, Mephysto, t20 and others), nor the last volunteer (Xamother and others in the near future) who has been or will be hired into the company from the vol program.
Kindly ensure you have your facts straight before trolling away.
you forgot at "E" 
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.06.01 06:01:00 -
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.. wait! Now I remember something from FanFest! 
It was drunken Oveur with Seleene pickping up names for MC's lottery when Oveur started picking more names and saying that he will give this and this and this (Because he was drunk). Did *HE* actually give away those uber rare ships back then? 
/me puts on tinfoil hat. 
Unnerf Amarr! Proud member of Caldari Provisions |

F'nog
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Posted - 2006.06.01 06:54:00 -
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I doubt I'm the only one who is very happy to know that my constant forum whoring may actually get me a job one day.
And something that no one else has mentioned is the simple fact that if the devs cheated in the game, it would be found out, thus destroying the community's support for them and resulting in the cancellation of many accounts.
So even if the dev who was cheating wasn't fired, he'd be hurting his income as the devs' income is tied directly to profits since it's their game and their company, not some faceless megacorporation.
Originally by: Panzer Goddess I podded wrangler, and all I got was this lousy forumban.
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Niccolado Starwalker
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 01/06/2006 07:22:06
Originally by: The Wizz117 there is only 1 company in the world, so profesional that it recruits its employee from its forums.
Im not sure if this is meant like irony or not, but one thing is dam sure. I would rather see really dedicated players join CCP after years of proven dedication to the GAME! Rather then a computer whiz, but absolutely green when it comes to EVE.
At the point where former players join CCP, Im am also dam sure that they are professional enough to work for the best of the game, rather then for their corp or alliance, be it Ushra Khan or Pie. CVA or BoB. Mercenary coalition or any other alliance out there. Because, first and foremost we are players. And we love the game, and wants what best for it!
That is WHY I prefer a well knowledged but fanatic when it comes to EVE before a computer whiz, but never have heard of EVE. Even if new fresh blood is good in any company, it is imho prefferable to have someone who LOVE the game! And who wants to stay true to this fantastic world!!!!
I have all respect for CCP and their crew. And i find it sad that there are people out there, who think CCP dont have more respect than that for their own game!!
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Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler The identity of Devs/ISD/GMs will never be revealed because the dev who nerfed something, GM who didnt reimburse something and volunteer who gagged someone shouldn't be attacked on their player account for that.
Does that work in reverse? WTF I was gate camping amamake yesterday and now they are nerfing minmatar and my character is gagged? 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:02:00 -
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Oveur for king of Iceland!
And no, I'm not him.  ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |

Dog Cancer
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:12:00 -
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im a dev
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |

Voculus
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:17:00 -
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Devs, try managing a large POS for a month. If that doesn't motivate you remove all the obstacles you threw up, then nothing will.
No disrespect intended, but there are some serious issues with POS management that need your attention. Forget the pirates for one patch cycle. They'll always have their gates to hug.
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Teles666
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Messerschmitt facility
Originally by: Sharkbait i play on tq for about 5-6 hours aday atm, cut down because i have been busy. but generally i play about 8 hours a day. i only have 1 account, so my time is very focused on 1 character really. but as regards telling people who i am ingame, HAHA..... yea that won't happen 
If you play 8 hours, when are you doing your DEV work that you are paid for? Don't tell me another 8 hours cause that would leave no room for food or social life
Hmm, I manage to work 9 hours, commute for 1, and still get the best part of 8 hours eve in :)
I sleep on saturday though, all of it :)
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Magwua
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: JafoPBCFR
Originally by: fairimear 1. ALL of them, or 99% proabably any way. how can u develop a game and not play it
Never played SWG did ya? LOL!
That's exactly what I thought when I read this.
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Doh Tajori
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Posted - 2006.06.01 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: Doh Tajori on 01/06/2006 10:11:27
I am nothin', but im also everythin'... |
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Sharkbait

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Posted - 2006.06.01 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz CCP employees shouldn't be allowed to be in alliances. I don't even think they should be allowed on TQ.
Over the years I've had quite a few fishy dealings with various alliances and corps. CCP employees abusing power would explain a lot of this.
as regards this statement, i fully agree with what Oveur said. i have gained alot of friends in eve with my player character and would also love to meet them. i know 2 at least are planning on coming to the fanfest this year, it would be great to meet up with them, have 1 or 2 beers or 10. but it's just not possible. someone finds out who we are, they will say we get free stuff because of who we are, our friends get free stuff because of who we are. it's easy for me to rename my character, move him to a noobie corp and start again, but it's basically tuff s*it for my friends. this isn't fair on them.
but aside from that, the main thing i dont like about your silly post, someone started a post making fun of my grammer. yes it's true, my grammer sucks like a hooker. i can take a bit of fun poking, a few of us in the office had a good laugh about it and it was also good to see a fun post for a change. then you have to lower the tone of the post.
well, thx
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Mason X i bet those polaris frigs come in handy tanking plexes
They have no weapon slots and no cargo hold. 
There's a story of a guy who filled the entrance to a station with shuttles, a polaris frig jumped in and smartbombed them all to death while concord was attacking and calling in more ships for support. <-Any truth to that story?
*on a side note... polaris ships do look dead cool!
-Nate
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nate D
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Mason X i bet those polaris frigs come in handy tanking plexes
They have no weapon slots and no cargo hold. 
There's a story of a guy who filled the entrance to a station with shuttles, a polaris frig jumped in and smartbombed them all to death while concord was attacking and calling in more ships for support. <-Any truth to that story?
*on a side note... polaris ships do look dead cool!
-Nate
I once heard from a friend of a friend... ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

amnon1989
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler The identity of Devs/ISD/GMs will never be revealed because the dev who nerfed something, GM who didnt reimburse something and volunteer who gagged someone shouldn't be attacked on their player account for that.
If some sort of list was made on how many Devs/ISD/GMs were in a certain alliance the only thing that would happen would be alliance X has some success and alliance Y starts claiming the Devs/ISD/GMs in it cheated. The fact is that when we play, we play the same way as any other player, no advantages.
http://www.evegames.hostingbig.com/eve/data/index.html
look here. with the implants you guys get, you cant say you have no advantages.
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Redundancy

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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: amnon1989
http://www.evegames.hostingbig.com/eve/data/index.html
look here. with the implants you guys get, you cant say you have no advantages.
You're assuming that we "get" any item in the database, which is incorrect to begin with.
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Knossos
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:20:00 -
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This thread blows donkeys.
Enough said.
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MurderCityDevil
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:24:00 -
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Although it may be tempting to try, I doubt the dev team would ever cheat at a game they made and play. I am sure the developers are die-hard fanatics over their own game and play it for themselves just as much as any regular subscriber.
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