Ransu Asanari, the HUD icon tells you whether the can has been hacked or not. It reflects the 'security status' of the can.

The loot scattering decay bonus from the Poteque 'Prospector' Environmental Analysis EY-1005 implant was replaced with a +5 Virus Coherence bonus for both data and relic analyzers.

This is on Singularity now.

That is an excellent bonus for that implant

And yet if you find the core with only a little bit of coherence left the +5 very well may be the difference between success and failure.

that has literally NEVER happened to me before, and i do exploration pretty much daily since half a year.

The loot in the cans is currently setup to be 70% of the value it was after Odyssey when we doubled the loot to account for the Scattering.

The loot in the cans is currently setup to be 70% of the value it was after Odyssey when we doubled the loot to account for the Scattering. We'll be watching to see what happens but think this should be a good spot to start from. You probably can't see that from running one or two sites though as it will average out between cans that have lots of awesome stuff in and cans that don't.

The loot scattering decay bonus from the Poteque 'Prospector' Environmental Analysis EY-1005 implant was replaced with a +5 Virus Coherence bonus for both data and relic analyzers.

The loot in the cans is currently setup to be 70% of the value it was after Odyssey when we doubled the loot to account for the Scattering. We'll be watching to see what happens but think this should be a good spot to start from. You probably can't see that from running one or two sites though as it will average out between cans that have lots of awesome stuff in and cans that don't.

Ransu Asanari, the HUD icon tells you whether the can has been hacked or not. It reflects the 'security status' of the can.

We think there is enough wrong with the balance of the loot in the Exploration Sites that a much larger pass needs to be made over it. For example Relic sites are typically worth much more than Data sites and there are some big jumps in the value of sites as you move through the progression in difficulty. It's something on Space Glitters backlog to look at.

Have you thought about viewing this on the window of Low/Null/High?

High-Sec Relic Sites for instance are worth much less than Data as opposed to Low/Null where they run higher. Would hate to see Relic Sites in High-Sec become even more worthless due to a blanket pass.

Relic Sites in High-Sec become even more worthless

The loot in the cans is currently setup to be 70% of the value it was after Odyssey when we doubled the loot to account for the Scattering. We'll be watching to see what happens but think this should be a good spot to start from. You probably can't see that from running one or two sites though as it will average out between cans that have lots of awesome stuff in and cans that don't.

Ransu Asanari, the HUD icon tells you whether the can has been hacked or not. It reflects the 'security status' of the can.

We think there is enough wrong with the balance of the loot in the Exploration Sites that a much larger pass needs to be made over it. For example Relic sites are typically worth much more than Data sites and there are some big jumps in the value of sites as you move through the progression in difficulty. It's something on Space Glitters backlog to look at.

they cannot become more worthless, they are for all inteds and purposes COMPLETLY worthless. 0.

for example, the lowest highsec data site contains 2 hackable containers, on average you should get something along the lines of 1.6 Symmetries and 1.6 paritries from this. this is a grand total of 2-4 million depending on the region, roughly. so 2-4 million per smallest highsec data site.
compare that to relicsites, you have like 0.000001% chance it feels like to find t2 salvage, t1 salvage is, in the amounts you find it in highsec, practically worthless. you will often get less than 1 million isk for running highsec relic sites, and much less than 1 million i might add.

The loot in the cans is currently setup to be 70% of the value it was after Odyssey when we doubled the loot to account for the Scattering. We'll be watching to see what happens but think this should be a good spot to start from. You probably can't see that from running one or two sites though as it will average out between cans that have lots of awesome stuff in and cans that don't.

Ransu Asanari, the HUD icon tells you whether the can has been hacked or not. It reflects the 'security status' of the can.

We think there is enough wrong with the balance of the loot in the Exploration Sites that a much larger pass needs to be made over it. For example Relic sites are typically worth much more than Data sites and there are some big jumps in the value of sites as you move through the progression in difficulty. It's something on Space Glitters backlog to look at.

This number should be higher. im usually able to get around 90% of the loot on average. i think 80% would be more appropriate - 70 is just too low.

We think there is enough wrong with the balance of the loot in the Exploration Sites that a much larger pass needs to be made over it. For example Relic sites are typically worth much more than Data sites and there are some big jumps in the value of sites as you move through the progression in difficulty. It's something on Space Glitters backlog to look at.

that has literally NEVER happened to me before, and i do exploration pretty much daily since half a year.

I don't yet know enough about exploring, nor market fluxuations, to venture a truly informed viewpoint. However, I am seeing what appears to be an interesting contradiction between the three primary types of responses I've seen in this thread:

1. "Yay! No more loot scattering! I'll come back to exploring now!"

2. "No! Don't cut the loot in half! I'll leave exploring!"

3. "No! Don't cut the loot in half! It'll drive market prices up!"

This seemingly translates to:

1. You have one group of people who will come back simply because they didn't like the *way* they had to do things. Thus, more explorers.

2. You have another group of people who seem to think that reduced loot immediately equals reduced profit. Thus, fewer explorers.

3. You have a third group of people who insist that reduced loot will immediately drive prices up in the market. Thus, intuitively, you'd think this would make exploration more lucrative again (because while there is less loot, that loot is now worth more), and thus, more explorers.

There is a cognitive dissonance between these viewpoints. I agree that "half" is probably drastic, but perhaps not as drastic as it might seem at first glance. Exploring may well end up being worth about the same overall, but is now worth more *per haul* than it was before, possibly increasing the ISK/hour that explorers receive, making exploration even more attractive. Of course, it may also make exploration hunters more prominent as well...

Food for thought.

The loot scattering decay bonus from the Poteque 'Prospector' Environmental Analysis EY-1005 implant was replaced with a +5 Virus Coherence bonus for both data and relic analyzers.

This is on Singularity now.

Any chance for removing cargo scanning opportunity? It doesn't matter how you set out loot in "new" cans. Players will scan and loot only valuables ones. Plus there will be "gold rush" similiar to Odyssey release, because very few explorers liked scattering. You will need some safety valve for sites value, and hacking cans blindly may be one.

Sisi should be updated today and I went and pulled the trigger to remove the loot scattering mechanic from the Exploration Sites. I've also reverted most of the doubled rewards. Some need to be done manually by our designers so consider what you're getting out of the sites as WIP. It works pretty much as before but with the Hacking mechanic remaining. Simply hack the site to gain access to the cargo hold of your target.

We've tested quite a lot internally but there are likely to be some rough edges somewhere. Any feedback you guys can give me is greatly appreciated.

I'm not a huge fan of removing the scattering mechanism. The moment of loot scattering seemed to be the perfect moment to decloak and get tackle on ships running the site vOv

I don't yet know enough about exploring, nor market fluxuations, to venture a truly informed viewpoint. However, I am seeing what appears to be an interesting contradiction between the three primary types of responses I've seen in this thread:

1. "Yay! No more loot scattering! I'll come back to exploring now!"

2. "No! Don't cut the loot in half! I'll leave exploring!"

3. "No! Don't cut the loot in half! It'll drive market prices up!"

This seemingly translates to:

1. You have one group of people who will come back simply because they didn't like the *way* they had to do things. Thus, more explorers.

2. You have another group of people who seem to think that reduced loot immediately equals reduced profit. Thus, fewer explorers.

3. You have a third group of people who insist that reduced loot will immediately drive prices up in the market. Thus, intuitively, you'd think this would make exploration more lucrative again (because while there is less loot, that loot is now worth more), and thus, more explorers.

There is a cognitive dissonance between these viewpoints. I agree that "half" is probably drastic, but perhaps not as drastic as it might seem at first glance. Exploring may well end up being worth about the same overall, but is now worth more *per haul* than it was before, possibly increasing the ISK/hour that explorers receive, making exploration even more attractive. Of course, it may also make exploration hunters more prominent as well...

Food for thought.