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These effect put a big dopey grin on my face.
Good job.

Jita traffic will be interesting to watch :)

It will be a constant rumble lol

My feedback :

• Make them louder! (relative to the size of ship?)
They are currently tied to the world sound slider, and compared to, say, station "propaganda" that you can hear in space, its way way too discreet.

• Make them bigger visually! (relative to the size of ship?)
• Make them visible on your own ship!
• Keep up the good work :) (They are cool nonetheless, just too discreet in my opinion)

It will be a constant rumble lol

Me too, I am still grinning like a fool. Now to try and get the QA Department in a massive fleet and have them warp to me.

.... On second thoughts, I might be too overcome with joy to function properly after that.

Spool up your FTLs, align your dilithium chambers and prepare for the jump to hyperspace because we have some EPIC new third-person effects to share with you all.

From today on Singularity if you happen to be looking at the right places when people arrive at or leave the grid you are on, you will now see an awesome warp trail and flash and hear a quiet thud as they cross the light-speed threshold.

We are really eager to hear your feedback on these effects. I for one am having an amazing time seeing these flashes, harbingers of impending doom (or deliveries). Please let us know what you think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOo9Xqm9b6U

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I just tried it on the Test Server and I was SOOOOOOOOOO disappointed that I could not see the warp effects on my own ship.


I do agree with Altrue, the sound effects should some how be linked to the size/mass of the ship (even though there are no sounds in space). Make them visible on your own ship! Although a lot of players will use it to see neutrals warping on grid, the effect is like ship spinning, it is part of what makes internet spaceships...well internet spaceships.

I would recommend not making them "bigger" because having the whole screen flash at you when a neutral warps on grid is just OP.

Future Project Suggestion:
Undocking animation, aka removing the short black screen when going from inside a station to outside a station. And yes I realize this would be hard to do because of places like Jita.

you should not be able to see it on your own ship, just like a fighter pilot doesn't see the breaking fo the sound barrier, people near it would. But now I need to install the test server and check this out

you should not be able to see it on your own ship, just like a fighter pilot doesn't see the breaking fo the sound barrier, people near it would. But now I need to install the test server and check this out

Do NPCs that warp into asteroid fields use the same effect?

Heres hoping cloaked ships remain silent when warpong in and out ^-^

Heres hoping cloaked ships remain silent when warpong in and out ^-^

They do. Of course if you find any exceptions to this then please submit a bug report as cloaked ships SHOULD NOT create the effects when arriving at or leaving grid.

Just to address a couple of things
2. As for you own ship the idea is that you wouldn't see this for anyone in your warp "bubble". There's definitely stuff that could be done to give entering and leaving warp more oomph but that would be a different effect.

Ya know something.....It wouldn't exactly break the game if there was some sort of minimal effect when a cloaked ship arrives or leaves. Nothing to even remotely pinpoint its location, but just a subtle indicator that "something" just arrived.

Just to address a couple of things

1. We decided to keep the effects somewhat toned down/subtle rather than huge loud flashy bursts. Reason being that they will be going off so often we're a little nervous about it getting too prominent/people getting sick of it. This can still be tweaked based on feedback/seeing it in action.

2. As for you own ship the idea is that you wouldn't see this for anyone in your warp "bubble". There's definitely stuff that could be done to give entering and leaving warp more oomph but that would be a different effect.

Keep the feedback coming. I'll check with the sound guys about that volume slider

Just to address a couple of things

1. We decided to keep the effects somewhat toned down/subtle rather than huge loud flashy bursts. Reason being that they will be going off so often we're a little nervous about it getting too prominent/people getting sick of it. This can still be tweaked based on feedback/seeing it in action.

2. As for you own ship the idea is that you wouldn't see this for anyone in your warp "bubble". There's definitely stuff that could be done to give entering and leaving warp more oomph but that would be a different effect.

Keep the feedback coming. I'll check with the sound guys about that volume slider

Keep the feedback coming. I'll check with the sound guys about that volume slider

Heres hoping cloaked ships remain silent when warpong in and out ^-^

A cloaked ship is not part of your grid and therefore doesn't exist for you until it uncloaks.

hey

you can't see where ships warp

Fair points. I'll look into what we can do about tracking ships that warp away.

+1

would make sense that even though your ships can trick the enemie's sensors, it can't avoid "laws of (eve) nature".
you still would need to look at the right direct in the right moment.
but i guess its a gameplay decision, that you don't know when covert ops ships arive or leave when in cloak.

how about just the light flash but no sound?

how about just the light flash but no sound?

*thoom*

Guys, there's someone else here... but I don't know where.

Fair points. I'll look into what we can do about tracking ships that warp away.

Just to address a couple of things

1. We decided to keep the effects somewhat toned down/subtle rather than huge loud flashy bursts. Reason being that they will be going off so often we're a little nervous about it getting too prominent/people getting sick of it. This can still be tweaked based on feedback/seeing it in action.

2. As for you own ship the idea is that you wouldn't see this for anyone in your warp "bubble". There's definitely stuff that could be done to give entering and leaving warp more oomph but that would be a different effect.

Keep the feedback coming. I'll check with the sound guys about that volume slider

hey

you can't see where ships warp anymore

can you please PLEASE add an option to disable this feature, i think its really cool but i really don't want gameplay to suffer because of it like so many other new cool features

and i'm not just saying you can't see what moon the target warped to or whatever either, you can't even tell what CELESTIAL they went to 90% of the time anymore

With the new changes this means if you are scouting, you can't really tell your FC where the hostile fleet warped because two gates are so close to each other. On TQ right now, unless the gates are completely overlapping it's usually trivial to scout this info.
The below footage shows the actual problem on Sisi and then compares it to right now on TQ. The ship used on Sisi is a redeemer (not a particularly fast warping ship).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAuF46gpowg
and this is for comparison on TQ right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yaeVMKDb5E
a long with a screeny where you can see the corp icon indicating clearly what moon the ship warped towards: http://puu.sh/8WACU/8f90d870ce.jpg
This is a serious decrease in functionality and a heavy nerf on scouting.

Please CCP Blaze & Sledgehammer. You are our only hope :3

completely untrue, if you want proof ask anyone who has bombed and killed cloaked ships

Why would your client need to know about a cloaked ship, when the server cluster does the AoE damage calculation? It doesn't.

In fact, it makes a whole lot more sense not to impart clients with information on cloaked stuff (performance, hacking, etc). Hence Noriko Mai is likely correct, and Capqu in turn is not.

Clients do not receive information from the server about cloaked ships that are not their own. The server knows where they all are, but other clients simply are not sent any data on cloaked ships until they become uncloaked. CCP did it this way so that even if you had some way of watching the incoming data stream from their server, you wouldn't be able to know about cloaked ships.

YES this is a significant nerf to scouting and cloaky tackling.

Example - in WHs we sit cloaked off active POS and watch where ships warp to. If a PI runner warps to a custom office we follow it and using superior speed get their before it and tackle/bubble.

This is a signifcant nerf to WH PVP/Ganking ccp ! FIX NOW before this goes live on Tranq. ! (please)

Being able to visually follow where people warped to has always been a thing, this would just cement it as an intended feature.

How about a little common sense? If you see an epithal and it is warping toward a planet there are two possibilities....the planet or POCO. Gee I wonder where they will go? As for overlapping planets and POCOs...make your best guess at least this way you can get off your ass and actually work for your kill rather than saying, "ooohhh lookie he is warping to POCO on planet 4 ok....warp, land, lock, easy kill."

^This is a big deal.

Just to address a couple of things

1. We decided to keep the effects somewhat toned down/subtle rather than huge loud flashy bursts. Reason being that they will be going off so often we're a little nervous about it getting too prominent/people getting sick of it. This can still be tweaked based on feedback/seeing it in action.

2. As for you own ship the idea is that you wouldn't see this for anyone in your warp "bubble". There's definitely stuff that could be done to give entering and leaving warp more oomph but that would be a different effect.

Keep the feedback coming. I'll check with the sound guys about that volume slider

Too many tears. HTFU and deal with it. It is going to be a level playing field for everyone.

Oh gees. This guy warped towards p5 and there is no other celestials in 180 degrees direction. I wonder which he went to?

^That is no big deal.

Oh gees. This guy warped towards p1,p2,p3, the sun and 3 belts and a gate.
I wonder where he went?

^This is a big deal.

It was possible before, it is not on Sisi and arguing for "well now it's just more difficult deal with it" is boggling my mind. Why don't we just rollback probing to only being able to move one probe at a time then? Wasn't that just more difficult as well? Why should we iterate on it?

You know...the effect doesn't take place until their ship is almost out of view anyway...at which point you can clearly see a streak of light that goes in the direction they are traveling. Im sorry, but if you can't determine in a 40K km streak which direction they are going then perhaps you should get the old probes out and give them a whirl.

Alright - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAuF46gpowg
Which moon did he go to?
On a scale of 1-100 % guaranteed. How easy it is to guess?

MY guess will be 50/50 between the two to the left... i guess we could really use some sort of more persistent trail, as suggested before, maybe staying or 5-10 sec - think Chronicles of Riddick where the necrowhatever commander used the trail from the engines of the mercenary ship to track where they went.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123232028/riddick/images/9/96/Lenser_ion_trail.jpg

Yes, therefore the wording Noriko used was bad. Because the grid is defined by the information the server retains - and that is your grid. So all ships, cloaked or not cloaked, are part of your grid.

Alright - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAuF46gpowg
Which moon did he go to?
On a scale of 1-100 % guaranteed. How easy it is to guess?

the one on the left, i'd say with 80-90% certainty,
its not a nerf,
deal with it and stop pissing on ccp sledgehammer's parade.

They do. Of course if you find any exceptions to this then please submit a bug report as cloaked ships SHOULD NOT create the effects when arriving at or leaving grid.

I actually like the notion of cloaked ships making the sound of entering/leaving FTL, because *the ship is still there, even if you can't see it*. However, the fact you can't see it means the light effect should not happen.

This would give players a minor tactical advantage while, somewhat more importantly, increasing the tension factor because, "Oh ****, there's a cloaky on grid with me! I have no idea where he is! Am I safe?"

What ever you do - never get hired by CCP. Please. I would pay you real life money, just stay out of ccp.

Spool up your FTLs, align your dilithium chambers and prepare for the jump to hyperspace because we have some EPIC new third-person effects to share with you all.

From today on Singularity if you happen to be looking at the right places when people arrive at or leave the grid you are on, you will now see an awesome warp trail and flash and hear a quiet thud as they cross the light-speed threshold.

We are really eager to hear your feedback on these effects. I for one am having an amazing time seeing these flashes, harbingers of impending doom (or deliveries). Please let us know what you think!

Quit being such a drama queen. I'm fine with not being able to precisely pinpoint exactly where a ship has warped off too. This works both way for you too when you are warping off, and has no negative impact on overall gameplay. The general direction is more than enough. You seem to think you are entitled to know the precise location that another ship warps off too without putting in the effort and checking dscan.

Alright - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAuF46gpowg
Which moon did he go to?
On a scale of 1-100 % guaranteed. How easy it is to guess?

I would guess 99% to the left...the angle of the light streak clearly indicates that is the direction he is going is to the left...I REALLY dont see the issue. Its no more accurate but no more inaccurate than the current way on TQ. It is just a different way...and you don't like it, its just personal choice.

(7:16:51 PM) ammzi: Isa:
(7:16:55 PM) ammzi: you went to the right hand moon
(7:16:57 PM) ammzi: in
(7:17:00 PM) ammzi: on sisi?
(7:17:01 PM) ammzi: with the deemer?
...
(7:27:12 PM) Isa: ammzi: yeah, the one on the right 13.



(13 being the moon at p5.)
CCP Blaze said they will be looking into it, so I am happy. I am not here to **** on anyone's parade, I think the graphical effects look awesome, but there's no need for them to not have the same functionality as right now on TQ.