How to solve this?

If you need help, hire some player mercs, giving your enemy a PvE encounter isn't going to hurt them beyond boring them a little.

Hi Bud,

Can i just request that these types of threads be kept in the appropriate sub forums. (Features & Ideas in this case.)

If you are interested in getting this idea off the ground i would recommend that you flesh it out and put some formatting into it.
It makes an idea a lot easier and more palatable to analyze, discuss and improve.

I personally probably wouldn't use such a service in my time playing eve, however that is not to say some form or iteration might not be possible.

Have a nice day.

Hm I preffer to put my isk in someone that I know is going to fight for me. I dont trust mercs.

You better learn to start socializing around and know people because you will have a hard time doing carebear stuff.

however that is not to say some form or iteration might not be possible.

wut? oh... thought this thread was about hookers...

Ah yeah you tricked me into this thread ha-ha-ha and now I'm posting.


Just put exotic dangers in your cargo hold, they will save you. Always handy to have around.
So no hookers, eh?

Perfect example about why socializing is hard this this.... fellows

Unless the NPCs were CONCORD, Officer battleships or sleeper drones they'd be pretty much useless against players anyway. Even IF they weren't I really don't understand why you'd want the Devs to redesign so much of the game (yes I've seen your other thread) just so you could solo in lowsec with your NPC fleet. Sounds like you'd prefer to play EVE Offline.

Seriously, get involved with an active PVP corp that lives there instead. You won't look back.

And no Webby, this lil body ain't for hire.

EvE is a universo of living science fiction. What I am asking is pretty sensitive and according to that. How many people doesnt even know about all can be done "becasue thats for carebears"? Really 50 smashing 6 is all you can get out of it? Mercenaries is a scam. I have all my right to declare my corporation independent of all I dont want to associate with and use the technology and priviledges gained by working missions to be as strong as I deserve without selling my soul to punks. I will not play the game the way you like but the way I want.

And no Webby, this lil body ain't for hire.

EvE is a universo of living science fiction.

Mercenaries is a scam.

I have all my right to declare my corporation independent of all I dont want to associate with and use the technology and priviledges gained by working missions to be as strong as I deserve without selling my soul to punks. I will not play the game the way you like but the way I want.

Absolutely, you have every right to play your corp independent or however you like.

But because this game is actually designed to force you to interact or cooperate with other players then you're going to constantly come up against challenges to your play style.

One of those will be in lowsec.

Don't ask for the game to be changed to suit you, just learn to play your solo style better.

Ah but your rates are too rich for me, and I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe *waves to Boba to close the storage door*

And we both know how it really works. If you want "escorts" you hire yourself. Why would I pay an NPC's to fail where I could PLEX alt accounts to p0wn?

Exactly. So hiring live-body mercs rather than some stale and predicable code is pretty much spot on for the theme.

In what way? How is paying one party to protect you a scam, but paying another party to do so not?

Who said you can't stay independent or have to sell out? All anyone is saying is that what you're asking for is already in the game, and CCP is not likely to steal a job players can do and give it to NPCs.

You pay people so they can play the game as they like it and you can play it as you like it. Everyone wins.

Mercenaries are not payed for winning the war for me. Once got the isk I you have not garantee they will do their best... or even try. NPCs dont have that choice to make they simply would fight to the end -unless bug or game broken-. Mercenaries live out of war, they want wars to happen, they are -most probably- in the same side as the ones who declares war. Even wars are declared to run mercenary bussines. That's how is a scam. You know this game better than anyone, dont play dumb to me.

Living scinece fiction yes, but you only read the part 'living' and forgot the part 'science fiction'

Predictable or not NPC drop dps, ecms, energy vampyres... predictable or not may ballance an unballanced battlefield.

And using the word 'steal' is manipulative.

Mercenaries are not payed for winning the war for me. Once got the isk I you have not garantee they will do their best... or even try.

Mercenaries live out of war, they want wars to happen, they are -most probably- in the same side as the ones who declares war. Even wars are declared to run mercenary bussines. That's how is a scam. You know this game better than anyone, dont play dumb to me.

Living scinece fiction yes, but you only read the part 'living' and forgot the part 'science fiction'

And using the word 'steal' is manipulative.

This days low sec is as safe if not more than some places in high sec.

EvE is a universo of living science fiction. What I am asking is pretty sensitive and according to that. How many people doesnt even know about all can be done "becasue thats for carebears"? Really 50 smashing 6 is all you can get out of it? Mercenaries is a scam. I have all my right to declare my corporation independent of all I dont want to associate with and use the technology and priviledges gained by working missions to be as strong as I deserve without selling my soul to punks. I will not play the game the way you like but the way I want.

Plus lets be honest, finding a honest player merc in Eve, is like finding a virgin after prom night. Yeah there maybe a few, but there is a reason for that.

You think people dont pvp because they never tried or because they are bad. You cannot get some people dont play eve tfor the combat part of it.

Mercenaries are not payed for winning the war for me. Once got the isk I you have not garantee they will do their best... or even try. NPCs dont have that choice to make they simply would fight to the end -unless bug or game broken-. Mercenaries live out of war, they want wars to happen, they are -most probably- in the same side as the ones who declares war. Even wars are declared to run mercenary bussines. That's how is a scam. You know this game better than anyone, dont play dumb to me.

Living scinece fiction yes, but you only read the part 'living' and forgot the part 'science fiction'

Predictable or not NPC drop dps, ecms, energy vampyres... predictable or not may ballance an unballanced battlefield.

And using the word 'steal' is manipulative.

I suggest CCP implements the chance of hiring NPC ships for isk.... and kick those bullies arses....

I am allowed to use drones and they are AI. It is possible and many's worst nightmare.

I think we all agree

I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...

Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...

You get where I'm going with this, don't you?

How dare you imply that the OP should spend time and money in learning to protect himself instead of expecting the harsh universe of EVE to do it for him!!!

Hm I preffer to put my isk in someone that I know is going to fight for me. I dont trust mercs.

Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.

Now if only you were correct, this game is almost entirely PvP, not always of the pew pew variety, you would be surprised how little you can do without in some way interacting with another player trying to dominate their section of EVE, even something as mundane as mining and selling things on the market is linked to PvP, and by that i mean player vs player, you're not the only person in this universe and even the act of selling or buying items forces you to interact with other players, PvE does not account for 90% of the game despite what you may think :)

So yes its not all about pew pew but it is almost entirely about competing with other players, if you want a game where you can do all of this without interacting with others i suggest the X series of games :P

Again, I am talking about ballancing, I am talking about having a chance to also pew pew (not running from it, but having a tool so can also do that) without the need to be in the larger corp available either you fit in there or not. I am taling about the corporations need to be just bigger and bigger as the only way to participate (again, instead of running or hidding).

Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.

How about we just all come after you,
as you are annoying and unable to properly express yourself
and don't understand that there is no problem that needs to be fixed in the first place?

Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.

High sec piracy is not griefing.

You are a bear wanting CCP to protect you because you dont want to put in the effort to go hire some mercs.

This.

Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.

11756 likes to this dude comments is not proof enaugh?

Man read the post.

The thing is that some people preffer to stay in a small friendly corporation instead of joining a big or even a huge one. This is an obvious disadvantage and leads to an unfair submission to the decissions of larger groups many times oriented solely in causing grief and self satisfy their very low self-esteem. No, I am not wardeked now, no, these are not tears, sorry. But I think we all agree that they dont need to be beter, nor have more skilled characters, nor being faster witted players not knowing the game deeper... they are only numericly superior... by far.

How to solve this? We accept it and live like inferiors when we are not necesarily so? Give up our projects and join a massive group were we become a one more no one? Giving up on EvE full of grief and bitterness?

I suggest CCP implements the chance of hiring NPC ships for isk. Even if your corp is small, if you have worked well and have some isk reserves in due corporation wallet, you can turn things around and kick those bullies arses the way they are looking for. The idea is open for discusion, limitation ideas and all you want. It responds to the ballancing the game philosophy and lends a hand to the independent players that reject the idea of being part of those hordes that now are starting to flame me...

Except that you're proposing a change that you seem to "think" will actually make it easier for you to pew pew solo, which i'll add you can already do quite easily with the current mechanics as-is



You still seem to think NPC's will be more than cannon fodder, have you ever run missions or ratted in belts?

NPC's are weak as hell they are near enough no threat to anyone and you'll be targeted and destroyed before the NPC's you are paying for :P

For them to be worth more than a fart they would need to be on the same level as sleepers in WH space, and even then people would be able to beat them easily, you seem to think there is a problem that needs a tool to fix when infact there is already a tool for this issue and you just dont want to use it :P

How about CCP just place all manufactured goods for sale from NPCs as well, as long as we're completely invalidating player interaction for the sake of minor convenience?

Only think will stop the "lets wardek those who are only 11 cause we are 36" if not stop at least make think twice.

I have soloed lvl 5 missions on a drake so I think I know what is three rats in a belt. Yes they are week but still better than few drones and as I said NPCs come in various sizes and fits. I dont want to go CONCORD nor Angel frigate 'threat level very dangerous'. Ballance is the key. It is an idea not my obsession and I get you may not like it but I wonder why some are so activelly against. Sound like tears to me.

The thing is that some people preffer to stay in a small friendly corporation instead of joining a big or even a huge one. This is an obvious disadvantage and leads to an unfair submission to the decissions of larger groups many times oriented solely in causing grief and self satisfy their very low self-esteem. No, I am not wardeked now, no, these are not tears, sorry. But I think we all agree that they dont need to be beter, nor have more skilled characters, nor being faster witted players not knowing the game deeper... they are only numericly superior... by far.

How to solve this? We accept it and live like inferiors when we are not necesarily so? Give up our projects and join a massive group were we become a one more no one? Giving up on EvE full of grief and bitterness?

I suggest CCP implements the chance of hiring NPC ships for isk. Even if your corp is small, if you have worked well and have some isk reserves in due corporation wallet, you can turn things around and kick those bullies arses the way they are looking for. The idea is open for discusion, limitation ideas and all you want. It responds to the ballancing the game philosophy and lends a hand to the independent players that reject the idea of being part of those hordes that now are starting to flame me...

Underlined the 1st of many words int hat posts that don't make a damn bit of difference. Who cares what you prefer, either deal with the reality of playing a game with other people or go find a single player game where other people can't stand in the way of what you want.

The entire attitude of this post is wrong. You are actually asking that instead of making friends, you have the DEVs of a PLAYER DRIVEN game go against the very spirit of the game and create fake friends for you. It's like saying "I can't get laid, would someone please make some robo-chicks that do whatever I want...at no expense to me of course". The level of pathetic this idea is can't properly be put in non-bannable words.

CONCORD is AI and is a deterrent. Again I dont mean to hire concord just stating I doubt NPCs are not a factor.

As far as hiring players, it has ben sayed already about thats fuelling wars as scam. Step 1 wardeck a small or new player corporation. Step 2 offer help for a load of isk. Step 3 in the best case scenario represent a fight, lose a couple of ships already calculated in the budget to make costumer happy and thinking he witness a reall war. Step 4 share the newb/small corporation between all the actors of the play. Not very along with the risk/reward philosophy. Want a war? Youre that mighty? What's the problem then? I say you but I am not reffering to anyone in particular.

Are you that sure there is not an issue or that certain issue is really fixed? May be not a game issue but perhaps a player issue. Laws are made on demand and New Eden demands -in my opinion- a tool.

NPCs are not going to help me as I think? Then change nothing in your play style and let me flush my isk in some jamming frigates, anyway you are going to destroy them so easily... right?

CONCORD is AI and is a deterrent.

CONCORD is not a deterrent to anyone who actually wants to attack someone else.

Next please.

"Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of GÇÿnew playersGÇÖ, that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."

I am amazed, amazed I say! Malc posted to this thread and did NOT mention the law attributed to him . . .



So, the reasons this is a less than good idea.




so, for no, that's a no from me

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I think this is an interesting idea...

Given that it is already possible to deploy an ESS within an anomaly and have the NPC protect it, without even having to pay them to do so, I can see such NPC service readily accepted by the community that already accepts this for ESS...

Isn't it?

Tippia has 22k likes and tells you to hire players, you realise that likes dont mean much as those are total across all forum posts, i could make a thread about bacon and get likes on the forum :P

As far as hiring mercenaries if you read the entire post you will find good reasons not to do so.

Those are not good reasons.

Mercs get their pay by doing the job, it is not in their interest to take payment and then gank the employer. What you want is for CCP to protect you, this wont be happening. This is an MMO not a single player game, if you want protection either get into or form a corp or hire some mercs.

No, mercs will not do that. No, I dont want ccp to protect me, it is you who want ccp to protect you and keep using brainless bumpers and skilless minner gankers just cause is very easy -efortless-lazy- to find that sort of players.

I am talking about a service I, or you, or anyone who has worked hard for LPs deserve in order to deffend from massive attaks. I have reppeated it so many times and in so many ways that I am sure everyone can understand the point. I dont mean share it nor agree, but blur it or distortion it is not possible for a missunderstanding anymore. I know the Goons and the Tears and all those would lose the status of big guys and I get why you will opose. But what about the rest? What about a significant part of the New Eden community? Lets wait and see.

There is also the in-universe logical consistency viewpoint.

There is a reason that mercenary armies never became a big thing in the real world..

If you hire player mercs, you may be able to find mercs who actively dislike the people who war dec'd you (for whatever reason), and many of them view it as a chance to pvp with their costs being largely covered, profit may just be a bonus.

In universe, NPC mercs would not really have much interest in taking losses on your behalf.

Real world mercenary armies had a reputation for bailing at the first sign of trouble. Can't win a battle without taking losses? Then they wouldn't fight in the battle. Italian renaissance era mercenary armies were notorious for that. When they fought other mercenary units, there were almost no casualties, as whoever would most likely lose would concede the field after a bit of light skirmishing.

And the CFC would be able to hire more mercs that you could imagine... I couldn't see your suggested change benefiting anyone more, honestly.

In short, it wouldn't have the effect you want. Even if it did, it would still not be a good idea.

Yes, the fact mercenaries will take not loses when already have the isk in their pokets is one of my points to discard them NPCs have no reassons they are programed so they will fight just because they are programmed for that.

It is true some will see a war as a chance to engage with those they want -for whatever reasson- to fight.

Real world mercenaries are not a great asset, drones started to be in 21st century.

So why after all this summary you come to the conclusion of AI would not be effective? I actually with same premises come to the other way around result.

You already have drones.

If you'd have NPC mercs, they should be programmed to behave in the exactly the way that you think all player mercs would behave. If anything, they would be less reliable, as they would be in it purely for the profit, unlike the players, who very well may be in it purely for the pvp.

And, most importantly, it doesn't fit the player sandbox of EVE. The NPCs are background. In sandbox games which have more active NPC's (single player, mostly), the NPC's react to you a lot more than you would like, they hold grudges, and are programmed to take active action against threats. In that sort of game, you'd have Guristas hit squads after you for running missions.

EVE is not that sort of game.

No, mercs will not do that. No, I dont want ccp to protect me, it is you who want ccp to protect you and keep using brainless bumpers and skilless minner gankers just cause is very easy -efortless-lazy- to find that sort of players.

I am talking about a service I, or you, or anyone who has worked hard for LPs deserve in order to deffend from massive attaks. I have reppeated it so many times and in so many ways that I am sure everyone can understand the point. I dont mean share it nor agree, but blur it or distortion it is not possible for a missunderstanding anymore. I know the Goons and the Tears and all those would lose the status of big guys and I get why you will opose. But what about the rest? What about a significant part of the New Eden community? Lets wait and see.

We would still kill you.

Now, Im not the one here asking for CCP to get the server to protect them. Hell, most the time we are open to attack from everyone what with our not bothering to fix our -10 sec status, so lets not bullship about gankers wanting protection from CCP. Mercs cannot get paid if they get a reputation for betraying their contractors, their entire income depends upon them fulfilling their contracts so no, a good merc group will not stab you in the back.

Now, lets look at this service of yours and how I, a Goon, can twist it to my own ends. Firstly, I can use them to provide protection from wartargets, I can also use them when ganking as both protection and as more firepower. I can also use them in fleets, imagine the side of blob we can muster with every pilot getting a protection detail. Jita undock would be stuffed with NPC ships protecting us as we bait, steal bail and bump everything undocking. Then we have the TiDi we can cause. After this we move our logistics, which we can now much more easily protect from wartargets.

Its a terrible idea, you will not get your single player game in this multiplayer game. If you want a fleet you get the players to do it either via a corp or by getting mercs.

I do agree with you and would not hire a merc corp myself either, as they would most likely end up destroying my assets with little risk, and I do not think there is honor amongst Eve **

To be clear I am pushing against using NPCs for defending players assets,like the ESS. Like others have mentioned, opening up hiring NPC goes against a player driven interaction, but also mothing prevent bigger groups with more money to do it also.

Now with your idea as a starting point, I would suggest allowing players to hiring NPC convoys.... We know that convoys are popping up in belts here and there, and are always an interesting target. If you were to commit some of your assets to such a convoy, and simply have you follow/escort that convoy, this would create some interesting game outlets beyond belts.

The NPCs would not defend you per se, but you would trust some of your assets to them for a fee... There could be some kind of limits to this use, to avoid replacing PC run transport services.

** unless enforced by superior numbers and wallets

...Now with your idea as a starting point, I would suggest allowing players to hiring NPC convoys.... We know that convoys are popping up in belts here and there, and are always an interesting target. If you were to commit some of your assets to such a convoy, and simply have you follow/escort that convoy, this would create some interesting game outlets beyond belts.

The NPCs would not defend you per se, but you would trust some of your assets to them for a fee... There could be some kind of limits to this use, to avoid replacing PC run transport services...

2nd when you say 'we' it really represents so little of you that it has nothing to to with when I say 'we'. Wn you belong to a mass that has 700 players and your CEO dont even know who the hell are you, the achievements you say 'we did' actually have nothing to do with you.

Did someone say convoy? We got ourselves a convoy!

but...as you know...If you want to pay a fee to have your assets hauled you can do that now. Red Frog Freight and PushX in highsec, Black Frog in lo / null. Established player groups that would be glad to assist you in any asset-moving-for-hire you need. How would EVE benefit by having NPCs do exactly what player groups are doing now?

Or...I will be happy to convoy with you to move anything you want for a very reasonable fee (has to be over a billion isk worth of assets to be worth my...um...time, though What? My mother trusts me...you wouldn't say anything against my mother, would you?)

You may want to do a little homework on that statement.

Oh you are 647? 1259? Yes my whole point is wrong.

The thing is that some people preffer to stay in a small friendly corporation instead of joining a big or even a huge one. This is an obvious disadvantage ...

I'm sorry, it's unclear to me what this "obvious disadvantage" is...

Just read the post before yours. Now my corp has 20 members. If they chose to declare us a war we would be in an obvious disadvantage.

No yet?

And?

Sure is fine by you. Lets name if Goons online. But is not. is a game unballanced situation and you still protest any attempt to people wan tto live outside your gang they have a chance -not for free- to have the pleasure of present a fight.

And we have to call the lambs who hide in the pack the taugh guys and the ones who stand are the carebears. Game is broken.

but...as you know...If you want to pay a fee to have your assets hauled you can do that now. Red Frog Freight and PushX in highsec, Black Frog in lo / null. Established player groups that would be glad to assist you in any asset-moving-for-hire you need. How would EVE benefit by having NPCs do exactly what player groups are doing now?

Courrier contract is working well, because of it's built in securities for the character contracting their stuff out.

The convoy idea was more an idea that spawned from the op's point.

If mercenary protection contracts had the same type of protection than courrier contract had, the op request would be moot...

adding my voice to the nope crowd for the mentioned reasons.

I like the idea DHuncan.

Being able for a pilot in an NPC corporation to hire NPC Mercs would be a rather welcome addition. But like the ISD said you need flush it out and put some meat on the bones.

Here is how the system would work in my opinion.

For each NPC Corporation that you run missions for you would receive special chits. These chits would then be used to purchase the services of NPC Mercs.

You would receive one chit for every mission completed and three chits for every storyline mission completed.

If you do not complete a mission and let it expire you lose three chits. If you do not complete a storyline mission and let it expire you lose five chits.

If you start a mission and then cancel it you lose five chits. If you start a storyline mission and cancel it you lose ten chits.

The number of chits you have can then be used to purchase the services of NPC Mercs. Each corporation will have its own Merc Corporation that will have varying levels of Mercs within the corporation.

One corporation might have ten Merc corporations available for hire where another might have twenty corporations but the smaller Merc corporation would cost more because of the more experienced Merc Pilots within the Corporation.

NPC Merc Corporations would come in five tiers the lowest tier being the best and tier five being the least experienced.

Each system would also determine the overall experience of the NPC Merc Corporation with Null and Low Sector being better than 1.0 High Security Systems.

NPC Mercs could be hired to protect miners from belt rats and gate rats that when the Deploy NPC Mercs button is pressed the Merc Corp that has hired launches from the stations warps to your location and then begins to engage the NPC pirates that are present. Once the first wave of NPC Pirates has been eliminated the NPC Merc Corp will then remain on station for a predetermined time and would then return to the station to await your orders.

NPC Mercs would also engage any Capsuleer that has attacked you and destroyed or podded you through ganking methods without you having to call on them. If the ganker enters the system the Mercs launch immediately from their station...which is hidden and then engage the ganker until the ganker is dead or the NPC Merc Corp has been defeated.

NPC Mercs could only be used by pilots in NPC Corporations against other NPC Pirates or Gankers.

The base chit use would go something like this.

You want to hire an NPC Merc Corp and have 100 chits. You find a tier two NPC Corp in the system that you are mining in and running missions. The NPC Merc Corp wants 10 chits per hour of their service thus giving you ten hours of total NPC Merc assistance. Once you pay the chit allowance the NPC Merc Corp you could call on their services whenever needed.

The more that you employ the NPC Merc Corp the more experience it gains from the actions they encounter and better standings you will have with them in future which would require less chits to be used for their services.

The area covered by an NPC Merc Corp would also depend on their tier level. Going outside of the system that the NPC Merc Corporation is based out of will cost more chits.

Tier 1: Five jumps from home base system - 125 extra chits per system after five
Tier 2: Four jumps from home base system - 115 extra chits per system after four
Tier 3: Three jumps from home base system - 100 extra chits per system after three
Tier 4: Two jumps from home base system - 75 extra chits per system after two
Tier 5: One jump from home base system - 50 extra chits per system after one

Types of ships employed with the NPC Merc Corporations would be based upon the tier level once again.

Tier 1: any type of ship from frigate to battleship (null sector and low sector would see carriers and dreds used)
Tier 2: any type of ship from frigate to battlecruiser
Tier 3: any type of ship from frigate to cruiser
Tier 4: destroyer
Tier 5: frigate

The use of the NPC Merc Corporation for a mission and ratting would reduce the bounty payout on each rat as well as mission payout.

Tier 1: 30% of bounties and 10% of mission payout
Tier 2: 25% of bounties and 10% of mission payout
Tier 3: 20% of bounties and 10% of mission payout
Tier 4: 20% of bounties and 15% of mission payout
Tier 5: 25% of bounties and 20% of mission payout

One corporation might have ten Merc corporations available for hire where another might have twenty corporations but the smaller Merc corporation would cost more because of the more experienced Merc Pilots within the Corporation.

NPC Merc Corporations would come in five tiers the lowest tier being the best and tier five being the least experienced.

Each system would also determine the overall experience of the NPC Merc Corporation with Null and Low Sector being better than 1.0 High Security Systems.

NPC Mercs could be hired to protect miners from belt rats and gate rats that when the Deploy NPC Mercs button is pressed the Merc Corp that has hired launches from the stations warps to your location and then begins to engage the NPC pirates that are present. Once the first wave of NPC Pirates has been eliminated the NPC Merc Corp will then remain on station for a predetermined time and would then return to the station to await your orders.

The more that you employ the NPC Merc Corp the more experience it gains from the actions they encounter and better standings you will have with them in future which would require less chits to be used for their services.

So what happens if I hire these merks and then go shoot some guy in a mining barge.

Absolutely. If there were any "you only get payd if succed" option I'd have not an issue on hirihg humans. In fact I would prefer as they are better adapting than the very lame AI -they start using boost even before getting shooted at- and also cause I preffer to give my isk to players who are reliable to me than disolving them into the system.

Now tell me how many missions I have to do to solo defend from 3 advanced capsuler campers and how is this crying for CCP mama to save my incompetent ass? It is obviously not.

This is what a trusted third party service is for. You stipulate the terms of the contract, each side agrees, and the third party holds the fees in escrow until the work has been completed. No job satisfaction, no payment.

It obviously is. You want a system that ***** out NPCs for you to use as a personal army. By definition, this is crying for CCP to save your ass, since they are the ones that will have to provide the solution you're asking for; no one else can alter the code base.

So what happens when players do what they already do, and just blow your sorry ass up in under ~15 seconds thereby leaving the NPCs no chance to defend you?

I just tried to melt your brain with so many words, I admit it.

You think incorrectly

Please stop it with the "we all think this" type rants

We don't all think anything the same way

Also; hire some mercs if you are that scared of monsters under your bed

But I think we all agree that they dont need to be beter, nor have more skilled characters, nor being faster witted players not knowing the game deeper... they are only numericly superior... by far.

the reward we deserve.

So why don't I leave EvE if I am so unconfortable with my fellow companions of game? Because I know this game was made for me and not for the hordes of ******** who destroy for grief 10 Vs one and dare to have the arrogance of saying is because the poor dude was not prepared, don't understand the complications of the game and BS (does not stand for battleship this time) like that.

Sounds to me like you've been reaping the rewards that you deserve and don't like it very much.

The only rewards I seek is to enjoy my New Eden experience my own way and not somebody else's way. I asume the risks as whitout risks there would be not that much experience BUT at a reasonable proportion.

When players -not the game's fault at all- seems so bored and so unable to find anything to do but to grief newbies -I am not such-, bumping minners, declaring wars that are more vendettas than war or 'easy pickings assuming confortably there is not honor in EvE -well I have honour and I am part of EvE-, and the miriad of situations we all -yes bitter mama, we all- witness every minute, then is time to give the chance to those who have spent their time and resources in expliring what has being offered to us.

Mr. Yamato,

I am not trying to stop other players to interact with me nor me being isolated and unable to interact with you. But I still want to keep my right to not let the flow to drag me to a play a style doesnt fit me. I dont see why players having an escort -being NPC or capsuleer- would neither stop other players to develop their style. This may force them to organize better, this may take away some unfair victories they dont deserve, but, oh well, they must be doing something wrong.

...The more we can gather together, the better we are, is the name of the game...

Mr. Yamato,

I am not trying to stop other players to interact with me nor me being isolated and unable to interact with you. But I still want to keep my right to not let the flow to drag me to a play a style doesnt fit me. I dont see why players having an escort -being NPC or capsuleer- would neither stop other players to develop their style. This may force them to organize better, this may take away some unfair victories they dont deserve, but, oh well, they must be doing something wrong.

Why I say they dont deserve? Because if yur victory is only achieved because numerical superiority and if numbers balance you dont get them anymore, then we are playing here a social game of antisocial behavoir. The more we can gather together, the better we are, is the name of the game. Everything else goes to nothingness? The skills, the knodlege, the hours of experience? Who would really suport that destruction of such a craftmanship of a game? I tell you who: Them.

Because you don't seem to understand the amount of stuff I could RUIN for other people using these things.

Eve is essentially mad max in space

what stops u from fighting back when ur PvE'ing?

So why don't I leave EvE if I am so unconfortable with my fellow companions of game? Because I know this game was made for me

so u think u should be exempt from PvP combat just because u dnt want to do it?

and u think this game was made for u?



Have u seen the eve FAQ? my signature is taken from there.

i do planets, mining, missioning, exploration, faction warfare, manufacturing, research and other activities, and i suck at them all.

Most of the PvP in this game is non-consensual. That's the type of game it is. Maybe it wasn't made for u after all. Maybe CCP made it the way they wanted, where:
- The most powerful NPC's in the game have, by design, a delayed response time.
- Ganking is very much ok
- Scamming is very much ok
- Theft is very much ok
- Bumping is very much ok
- Exploitation (of players, not mechanics) is very much ok
- Wardecs are very much ok.
- Players are meant to be attacking each other in all areas of the game in many different ways.

and this game then attracted the kind of player looking for this ethos, this survival of the fittest arena.

No, NPC's should not fight for players. Wealth does not balance a game, and everyone will just use their own armies of NPC's to create a lag fest fleet. Having NPC's affect a PvP system like war decs will almost definitely end with players complaining NPC's are getting in the way of their PvP. A bit like this.

And the last time a CCP employee hinted at pay2win being a possibility the jita protest happened.

But why then in a universe of so advanced technology renting machines are unrealistically prevented by a very ooc 'game restriction'. Does make no sense and cuts the virtuallity into a 'this is a game with rules and all you see are pixels' sort of deal. The inmersion into New Eden breakes, the atempt to live in space and build your way is there no more. Hm, then may be true is not a game made for me after all.

What makes the diference betwen what I am asking and your POS has defenses that work when you are off line?

No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided

Actually, it's a lie, there are such places. They are called stations.