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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.06.10 18:08:00 -
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Well, the GNW taught me...
That having m0o at -10 when trying to fly with RKK, Evolution and m0o was unecessarily complicated!
That between the 350 accounts we had when we left NORAD only about 100 were up to the job.
That alphastrike > warp scrambers, oh how I used to love the BNC Amarr Navy, 10-12 Geddons and Apocs going hunting like you would with a bunch of HACs and Recon cruisers today 
That politics are 4tw, so long as you do win 
DuraMallers > Interceptors
Scorpions are made out of tinfoil.
Torrinos is really not a 0.0 system, hehe.
Omniwar might know what he's doing but unless you speak a bizzare Scandinavian hybrid language interspersed with Swahili you were doomed when it came to understanding what on earth he wanted you to do.
BKG rules.
Talking to Sutty on TS after midnight on New Years Eve is a very silly thing to do indeed.
Magickangaroo can't tackle for sh..
I had fun and I think I've just about recovered enough to do it again 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.06.10 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 10/06/2006 18:17:59
Originally by: Blacklight BKG rules.
it does indeed, but I have to say last weekend we improved it a lot  ________
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Alessia Karan
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Posted - 2006.06.10 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
I don't really think that wars are decided too fast because of the pos mechanics. When an alliances dies these days, it does so not because it ran out of isk or outposts, but because it ran out of will.
On top of that, people nowadays don't have ideals anymore, which is rather sad. They just want to do what they want to do, but will decline fighting over the space to do it in and rather just move over elsewhere again and again.
I'm not sure. I think a large part of the reason why alliances fold so fast nowadays is because its quite apparent they are losing when their posses go into reinforced and are destroyed, after that they lose all motivation and just don't bother anymore and give up.
An alliance like SA for example don't really give up that fast because they can't lose their npc stations. To truly get them out of the sttions and out of the region would take weeks or months of camping them, like the GNW. But invasion forces just can't be bothered with that anymore and take a region that can be properly controlled instead.
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.06.10 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cohkka on 10/06/2006 19:28:04 GNW tought me that blobwars suck. Was flying in a gang consisting of mainly CE and STV. Evol, BNC and RKK formed up a blob as well and bubled up the Gate we wanted to strike at. The engagement never took place since it would have been suicide to jump on them.
I wasted 4 hours of my life in that night, and I'll never get them back...
edit: typo
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.06.10 19:47:00 -
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Taught me how easly people who you thought were your friends will turn on you like cowards, and manipulate the forums in their favor.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2006.06.10 19:49:00 -
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I was in Jericho Fraction for most all of the war.
I usually sniped people using my megathron boosted by 2 scorps above the eve sanc school in X70MU.
When we had empire wars I roamed empire in my blasterax.
I started in JF as their mining/resource director I ended up leaving and joining BDCI. There are various factors but overall it's because of the PVP that I joined BDCI.
Been in BDCI for 20mos now and have not regretted my decision.
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skilzrulz
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Posted - 2006.06.10 19:54:00 -
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GNW made me want to join Reikoku... ;)
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ChingChong Stoner
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Posted - 2006.06.10 20:07:00 -
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GNW was big when I first start playing. I thouhgt WOW! this game has story and fighting! evryone respected the players in forum and space.
where is jade and destible(sp?) and molle and halseth? I want to hear what they have to say here! |

Morela
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Posted - 2006.06.11 06:42:00 -
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off topic real quick.
WTH are you posting with your alts in this post?
/SMACK!
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.06.11 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 11/06/2006 09:01:25
Originally by: Blacklight
BKG rules.
/signed
..remembering a few pretty sweet GODS vs BNC fights..
GNW taught me that fighting a gurilla war based on trying to "hit em in the pocket book" does not work in eve. Taught me there is no substitute for dominating space. Taught me just ignoring an enemy does not make them go away. It taught me that morale > all in a war. Tought me that perception is as important as reality in eve. Most importantly it tought me how to lose 10000000000 kestrals per night in bkg.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2006.06.11 09:32:00 -
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Jumping through the wrong gate because of not paying attention to TS can have terminal consequences to your health.
Picture Han Solo running around that corner into the corridor full of stormtroopers
The system was H-PA 
Unbeknownst to me, a fleet led by Galavet was waiting to jump in to H-PA via another route and didn't have a scout
Funny thing fate. 
Saying the GNW was emotional is an understatement.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.06.11 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
It was the last war in Eve that meant something and thats the end of the story really.
I must say I disagree.
I don't think the GNW meant any more than (say) the deconstruction of TRUST or (for example) the ongoing war in the "east".
I stamp this whole thread as nostalgia. And nostalgia, I will have all of you know, is just another form of ignorance. Harsh, but true. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |

Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.11 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
It was the last war in Eve that meant something and thats the end of the story really.
I must say I disagree.
I don't think the GNW meant any more than (say) the deconstruction of TRUST or (for example) the ongoing war in the "east".
I stamp this whole thread as nostalgia. And nostalgia, I will have all of you know, is just another form of ignorance. Harsh, but true.
Err yes an no.
The GNW was differant because people on each side actually believe in what they were fighting for. And actually fought for it, for a long time.
Take a look at all the war's going on today, and in the last year or so.
Xetic fell in a matter of hours after CLS/DDC left.
Imp.... still bouncing after being thrown out.
PA/NSBI died quickly once the pressure was put on them
Tribal souls.
The few worth mentioning in the same breath as the old PA might be FA, Red, and F-E.
FA survived a while under attack from shinra, atuk, BOB, then later from the [5] and BOB.
Red survived, but the methodes they use leave a real sour taste in my mouth (we'll leave it at that)
F-E survived a large number of fleet battles. But they also crumbled (maybe not the right word) once Atuck moved to take thier systems.
I honestly can't think of any war in eve that lasted as long, or was a fought over as the PA/everyone else war. CA/SA might be close, but that was a much differant situation.
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emptydude
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Posted - 2006.06.11 10:04:00 -
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i learnt to get off my arse, stop mining and go pvp. i also learnt that whilst the tristan may be exremely sexy, its utter crap for PvP.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.06.11 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe I must say I disagree. I don't think the GNW meant any more than (say) the deconstruction of TRUST or (for example) the ongoing war in the "east". I stamp this whole thread as nostalgia. And nostalgia, I will have all of you know, is just another form of ignorance. Harsh, but true.
You just need to compare the reasons for fighting then and now Beringe. Back then it was politics, vendettas, feuds and big visions. Now its boredom, showing off big toys and playing capture the flag in space. There isn't much of a reason and motive now beyond fighting for the sake of it - thats what I view as being lost. Nobody has a cause or imaginative plan any more.
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The End
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Posted - 2006.06.11 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
It was the last war in Eve that meant something and thats the end of the story really.
I must say I disagree.
I don't think the GNW meant any more than (say) the deconstruction of TRUST or (for example) the ongoing war in the "east".
I stamp this whole thread as nostalgia. And nostalgia, I will have all of you know, is just another form of ignorance. Harsh, but true.
Err yes an no.
The GNW was differant because people on each side actually believe in what they were fighting for. And actually fought for it, for a long time.
Take a look at all the war's going on today, and in the last year or so.
Xetic fell in a matter of hours after CLS/DDC left.
Imp.... still bouncing after being thrown out.
PA/NSBI died quickly once the pressure was put on them
Tribal souls.
The few worth mentioning in the same breath as the old PA might be FA, Red, and F-E.
FA survived a while under attack from shinra, atuk, BOB, then later from the [5] and BOB.
Red survived, but the methodes they use leave a real sour taste in my mouth (we'll leave it at that)
F-E survived a large number of fleet battles. But they also crumbled (maybe not the right word) once Atuck moved to take thier systems.
I honestly can't think of any war in eve that lasted as long, or was a fought over as the PA/everyone else war. CA/SA might be close, but that was a much differant situation.
1st and foremost when you say F-E please make it so that it is "F-E Alliance" that you are refering too....
F-E Alliance did not crumble. (poor choice of words) it actually gave Atuk a good fight. numerous Atuk members would agree with that
GNW's duration did not even come close to the CA/SA war
the CA/SA war by far was the longest war in EVE and probably the most Fun in my opinion since i participated in both.
Anf finally to Beringe you must be crazy to suggest a similarity between The Demise of TRUST and the GNW
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2006.06.11 15:48:00 -
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My corp at the time of the GNW, Forsaken Empire (<3), wasnt affected too much imo.
Evol/RKK/BNC came through our space occasionally to get from empire to Branch, surprisingly alot of stragglers came though in 1s and 2s and met an untimely death (rawr at Molle and his 7 stab+MWD apocs ^_^), but the majority came in blobs too large for our one corp to engage.
We didnt really get involved too much as we were not exactly on good terms with either side, kinda sat back and laughed at they beat the crap out of each other and played station ping pong in Branch.
We however, after PA were pretty much gone out of their claimed territories, got 2 epic battles in P3EN, one on a saturday and another the very next day. A huge number of pilots were involved, maybe 150-200. I belive BoB held the field at the end on the saturday and FoE (our ally with Foyle <3) held the field at the end of the sunday battle, (or vice versa on the days dont quote me on this). The battles raged for over an hour each day, was very good fun for both sides afaik as BoB hadnt had a decent fight in a while since PA were using small gank forces at that stage. BoB had the kill ratio on us I believe but the fleet was mainly made up of the FoE industrial corps who took up arms and not so many of the two main FoE pvp corps (FE+Corp1). It was tiring as hell on the Sunday, NumberOne (aka Brotherdeath) and myself had the task of calling targets for over an hour (note: I had stepped down from leading fleets over a year before that, so it was exhausting to say the least) while Zen Later handled the EW.
Probably too much useless info but thats my main memories from the GNW, like I said we didnt get involved too much mainly when they came to our space, although I believe c4w3 took a few small fleets to Branch to play.
Btw my writing and grammer skills arent exactly 100%, mainly lazyman typing for me, so dont go all grammer police on me.
-Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol |

DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2006.06.11 15:58:00 -
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Also I second what End said, dont refer to the Forsaken Empire Alliance as the "F-E" as that is the corp, thx.
-Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.06.11 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyHarry We however, after PA were pretty much gone out of their claimed territories, got 2 epic battles in P3EN, one on a saturday and another the very next day. A huge number of pilots were involved, maybe 150-200. I belive BoB held the field at the end on the saturday and FoE (our ally with Foyle <3) held the field at the end of the sunday battle, (or vice versa on the days dont quote me on this). The battles raged for over an hour each day, was very good fun for both sides afaik as BoB hadnt had a decent fight in a while since PA were using small gank forces at that stage. BoB had the kill ratio on us I believe but the fleet was mainly made up of the FoE industrial corps who took up arms and not so many of the two main FoE pvp corps (FE+Corp1). It was tiring as hell on the Sunday, NumberOne (aka Brotherdeath) and myself had the task of calling targets for over an hour (note: I had stepped down from leading fleets over a year before that, so it was exhausting to say the least) while Zen Later handled the EW.
Those were two awesome fights 
Eve Blacklight Style
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2006.06.11 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: DirtyHarry We however, after PA were pretty much gone out of their claimed territories, got 2 epic battles in P3EN, one on a saturday and another the very next day. A huge number of pilots were involved, maybe 150-200. I belive BoB held the field at the end on the saturday and FoE (our ally with Foyle <3) held the field at the end of the sunday battle, (or vice versa on the days dont quote me on this). The battles raged for over an hour each day, was very good fun for both sides afaik as BoB hadnt had a decent fight in a while since PA were using small gank forces at that stage. BoB had the kill ratio on us I believe but the fleet was mainly made up of the FoE industrial corps who took up arms and not so many of the two main FoE pvp corps (FE+Corp1). It was tiring as hell on the Sunday, NumberOne (aka Brotherdeath) and myself had the task of calling targets for over an hour (note: I had stepped down from leading fleets over a year before that, so it was exhausting to say the least) while Zen Later handled the EW.
Those were two awesome fights 
yupyup ^^
-Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol |
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Alessia Karan
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Posted - 2006.06.11 17:09:00 -
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You killed me like 3 times in your harpy during that fight kept having to go back to obe to get a new ship for rediculously inflated prices 
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2006.06.11 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Alessia Karan You killed me like 3 times in your harpy during that fight kept having to go back to obe to get a new ship for rediculously inflated prices 
Yeah it was the first time I took a harpy into fleet combat (always had used ravens or scorps before), it was surprisingly good for point defence, was getting optimals of 30k-70k... all was fine and dandy till TWD launched 2 vollys of torps at me, was too busy calling to notice the red box around his ship >.<
RIP Harpy
-Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol |

Blizzaro
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Posted - 2006.06.11 23:02:00 -
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Watching KIAGaRpY in an incursis get poped by rohans rifter before a KIA night out.
Finding that a 400mm plate on an interceptor made them godly.
That I wasted far to many good summer days/nights sat listening to sensorboosters.
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Odet
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard Anyone else remember that m0o Bombathron that sat at a warp in point in BKG that took out like a 15 man frig fleet when they warped in on him from the gate?
we did it a lot in the later parts of the GNW, as fights were rare so we forced a "fight".
My favorite day was when we sat bombathrons all over a system at every jumpin for every gate.
never been so popular with hatemail 
_______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fr |

TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.06.13 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 13/06/2006 08:20:56 TWD Bombapoc (I think it was TWD's) pwning my corp mates inties at like 10 or 12k.
TWD's Dual MWDing Maller, Pwning Corp mates ships.
Seing my first ever Assult ship. Then Seeing my first ever heavy assualt ship.
BKG being a complete total waste of time. BoB having it in the day. then PA having it at night. Biggest wate of ammo taking that station ever.
Lord Wimbishi's SS busting Triple MWD'ing Thorax, Though I never know if he ever found anything.
RKK wardeccing our tiny corp Oblivion systems in Avada (0.7 system in aridia) , and Pwning us with Cruise missiling rifters and Torpspamming Ruptures. That taught me Not to randomly click when you lag. (Locked a gate when RKK warped in and Fired 3 torps at it from my blackbird)
OMG THOSE SO BORING PHOENIX ALLIANCE TEAMSPEAK MEETINGS.
Omg I never realised how much happened in that war.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.06.13 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.06.13 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 13/06/2006 10:19:22
Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well.
Just as a fyi to this and your other post... :p
M0o was the first known group to make effective use of the gankageddon, I made the setup (not very special) and told the rest of m0o about it. Mega Pulse I just got boosted and tanking was the standard, more than 2-3 damage mods was considered useless. For the time it was something new.
I was the first known person to make effective use of the dual 100MN AB (tech2) Maller (the dual 100MN AB idea I got from someone else).
I've never flown a Tempest in PvP on TQ.
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TWD Bombapoc (I think it was TWD's) pwning my corp mates inties at like 10 or 12k.
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Alessia Karan
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Posted - 2006.06.13 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
RKK wardeccing our tiny corp Oblivion systems in Avada (0.7 system in aridia) , and Pwning us with Cruise missiling rifters and Torpspamming Ruptures. That taught me Not to randomly click when you lag. (Locked a gate when RKK warped in and Fired 3 torps at it from my blackbird)
Missile launchers had been changed to only be able to fire the appropriate size of missiles long before that. Even before the whole GNW started I believe. So I can assure you that our rifters weren't firing cruise missiles, and our ruptures weren't firing torps, although we still owned you none the less 
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GREEKMAN
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:06:00 -
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The GNW for me is the matter that after 2 years when you hanging around EVE and see an EX-enemy in the local channel, exchange a "hi m8..." you feel like you speak to a good friend from the past. It is a feeling that you can not feel even with your new members of your own corp!! à local rising à death is close to you à 
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.06.13 16:15:00 -
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I didn't participate in the GNW, but the RONA video made a big impression on me in showing that Eve has exactly the sort of massive player fighting that all MMOs should have.
BTW--That video looks like there was supposed to be a second part, but I was never able to find it. Does anybody know where it is? Or was it never finished? ---- "Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth |
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