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King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.06.13 16:18:00 - [151] It never got made. LL never got enough material for it. King
Odet	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:27:00 - [152] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well. err i didnt even know twd can fly a tempest... if you're thinking of m0o and tempest ur prolly reffering to vegeta. As for frank, frank flies a raven and did so in the gnw. twd in a cyclone? not in the GNW... Fairlane and Abominable did however fly them but not in the GNW. _______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fr
Fred0	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:32:00 - [153] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well. I'm beginning to doubt you took part.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:34:00 - [154] Edited by: Darko1107 on 13/06/2006 17:34:16 Hes means during the BoB Vrs NSA conflict, TWD used to fly alot of cylones, i remember running away from them a few times. EDIT: Lol just realised i wrote conflict. Meant slaughter. Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:44:00 - [155] Originally by: Odet Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well. err i didnt even know twd can fly a tempest... if you're thinking of m0o and tempest ur prolly reffering to vegeta. As for frank, frank flies a raven and did so in the gnw. twd in a cyclone? not in the GNW... Fairlane and Abominable did however fly them but not in the GNW. TWD doesn't fly Tempests. IIRC the famous 'bomberthron' incident was Dukath when the PA all warped to a belt in frigs attempting to nail a 'mining op' only to find Dukky sat there waiting with smartbombs pulsing. Goodness knows how Frank got dragged into this. I certainly don't remember TWD flying many Cyclones during the GNW. Amazing what a year can do to people's memories Eve Blacklight Style
Odet	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:59:00 - [156] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Odet Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well. err i didnt even know twd can fly a tempest... if you're thinking of m0o and tempest ur prolly reffering to vegeta. As for frank, frank flies a raven and did so in the gnw. twd in a cyclone? not in the GNW... Fairlane and Abominable did however fly them but not in the GNW. TWD doesn't fly Tempests. IIRC the famous 'bomberthron' incident was Dukath when the PA all warped to a belt in frigs attempting to nail a 'mining op' only to find Dukky sat there waiting with smartbombs pulsing. Goodness knows how Frank got dragged into this. I certainly don't remember TWD flying many Cyclones during the GNW. Amazing what a year can do to people's memories in my defense i didnt drag frank into this i was simply pointing out he was a raven pilot, as lucian thought otherwise. _______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fr
TWD	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:59:00 - [157] Did fly a cyclone and ferox for a short time before they got nerfed ;\|
Odet	Posted - 2006.06.13 18:45:00 - [158] Originally by: TWD Did fly a cyclone and ferox for a short time before they got nerfed ;\| heh isnt that alwayz the case _______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fr
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.06.13 18:51:00 - [159] Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 18:52:42 NO ODET WAS THE CYCLONE,TWD WAS THE MALLER AND PROPH (I know about the proph cuz he ganked me in X-70), and I could have sworn TWD flew Temps tho I guess it was Vegeta. I forgot to post about Odet,sry hun.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.06.13 18:57:00 - [160] wait.......then who was the Bombathron man originally in BKG? I know Sass and Stav liked geddons and apocs at the time I hung about. Remember I am on the US timezone so I usually see you kewl EU people in weird ships just putzin' about.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.06.13 19:02:00 - [161] Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 13/06/2006 10:19:22 Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well. Just as a fyi to this and your other post... :p M0o was the first known group to make effective use of the gankageddon, I made the setup (not very special) and told the rest of m0o about it. Mega Pulse I just got boosted and tanking was the standard, more than 2-3 damage mods was considered useless. For the time it was something new. I was the first known person to make effective use of the dual 100MN AB (tech2) Maller (the dual 100MN AB idea I got from someone else). I've never flown a Tempest in PvP on TQ. Quote: TWD Bombapoc (I think it was TWD's) pwning my corp mates inties at like 10 or 12k. That was either Dukath or someone else. Thanks for clearing that up. Drunk memories FTL
Alexison	Posted - 2006.06.13 19:31:00 - [162] Originally by: DirtyHarry We however, after PA were pretty much gone out of their claimed territories, got 2 epic battles in P3EN, one on a saturday and another the very next day. A huge number of pilots were involved, maybe 150-200. I belive BoB held the field at the end on the saturday and FoE (our ally with Foyle <3) held the field at the end of the sunday battle, (or vice versa on the days dont quote me on this). The battles raged for over an hour each day, was very good fun for both sides afaik as BoB hadnt had a decent fight in a while since PA were using small gank forces at that stage. BoB had the kill ratio on us I believe but the fleet was mainly made up of the FoE industrial corps who took up arms and not so many of the two main FoE pvp corps (FE+Corp1). It was tiring as hell on the Sunday, NumberOne (aka Brotherdeath) and myself had the task of calling targets for over an hour (note: I had stepped down from leading fleets over a year before that, so it was exhausting to say the least) while Zen Later handled the EW. Was probably the first fleet battle I was in. Can't remember much from that time. Still a noob flying ships with noob fittings. :P Was in both battles. Saturday in a vigil and sunday in a caracal. Found this images on the kb, I seem to have deleted mine when I was blown up. :( Grimster in a claw. Pic 1 Pic 2 Was fun that you had to call in Shinra to end the battle on sunday. Not so fun traveling back to BKG in a pod without instas and a head full with valuable implants. Fun times indeed.
Odet	Posted - 2006.06.13 19:48:00 - [163] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 18:52:42 NO ODET WAS THE CYCLONE,TWD WAS THE MALLER AND PROPH (I know about the proph cuz he ganked me in X-70), and I could have sworn TWD flew Temps tho I guess it was Vegeta. I forgot to post about Odet,sry hun. u damn right better post about me! hmmm x-70 i really should get my stuff out of there one day... _______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fr
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.06.13 22:24:00 - [164] Originally by: Lucian Alucard wait.......then who was the Bombathron man originally in BKG? I know Sass and Stav liked geddons and apocs at the time I hung about. Remember I am on the US timezone so I usually see you kewl EU people in weird ships just putzin' about. That was Dukath. He was also doing gurista missions during all of GNW, which was kinda fun, frigs would scramble to get him, he'd bomb them and carry on about his business.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.06.13 23:56:00 - [165] Ah because all I remember is Duke Rottingham posting a link in "PanzyAlliance" chat to a vid of a Bombathron sitting at a warp in spot,then seeing like 15-17 HAOS and GODS Intys/Frigs warp in and pretty much get insta popped.
TuRtLe HeAd	Posted - 2006.06.14 08:27:00 - [166] Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 14/06/2006 08:32:06 Yes it was Dukath ! in a Bombapoc. He was the pioneer. Without him i would never be using my discophoon 2 years later
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:14:00 - [167] Originally by: Alexison Originally by: DirtyHarry ... Was probably the first fleet battle I was in. Can't remember much from that time. Still a noob flying ships with noob fittings. :P Was in both battles. Saturday in a vigil and sunday in a caracal. Found this images on the kb, I seem to have deleted mine when I was blown up. :( Grimster in a claw. Pic 1 Pic 2 Was fun that you had to call in Shinra to end the battle on sunday. Not so fun traveling back to BKG in a pod without instas and a head full with valuable implants. Fun times indeed. Obe is just next door to P3EN, you could have easily gotten a shuttle or frigate there Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 14/06/2006 09:11:21 Yes it was Dukath ! in a Bombapoc. He was the pioneer. Without him i would never be using my discophoon 2 years later. It was a bombaTHRON!
juduzz	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:59:00 - [168] Originally by: Alexison Originally by: DirtyHarry We however, after PA were pretty much gone out of their claimed territories, got 2 epic battles in P3EN, one on a saturday and another the very next day. A huge number of pilots were involved, maybe 150-200. I belive BoB held the field at the end on the saturday and FoE (our ally with Foyle <3) held the field at the end of the sunday battle, (or vice versa on the days dont quote me on this). The battles raged for over an hour each day, was very good fun for both sides afaik as BoB hadnt had a decent fight in a while since PA were using small gank forces at that stage. BoB had the kill ratio on us I believe but the fleet was mainly made up of the FoE industrial corps who took up arms and not so many of the two main FoE pvp corps (FE+Corp1). It was tiring as hell on the Sunday, NumberOne (aka Brotherdeath) and myself had the task of calling targets for over an hour (note: I had stepped down from leading fleets over a year before that, so it was exhausting to say the least) while Zen Later handled the EW. Was probably the first fleet battle I was in. Can't remember much from that time. Still a noob flying ships with noob fittings. :P Was in both battles. Saturday in a vigil and sunday in a caracal. Found this images on the kb, I seem to have deleted mine when I was blown up. :( Grimster in a claw. Pic 1 Pic 2 Was fun that you had to call in Shinra to end the battle on sunday. Not so fun traveling back to BKG in a pod without instas and a head full with valuable implants. Fun times indeed. Lol that brings back memories, running out of cruise half way through battle so just lobbing torps on anything that came in range hoping they would hit :P
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.14 10:35:00 - [169] (Forums ate my post again >.<) Haha that was an awesomely fun battle, my first really. And since i had a lot of the sounds and so on turned on, i crashed 7 times during the first fight, and managed to restart my computer and get back in, and survive BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Kurenin	Posted - 2006.06.14 11:13:00 - [170] Lucian is such a never-been, always commenting on things he had no involvement and being all buddy buddy with people.
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.06.14 11:19:00 - [171] the GNW was an interesting one - more to come i think
KIAPieman	Posted - 2006.06.14 16:14:00 - [172] All i took now from the GNW is D.T.A dont trust anybody. people who know about the GNW "apology" thread will know my reasons. --------------------------------------------------
Suzana	Posted - 2006.06.15 02:29:00 - [173] GNW taught me: -The meaning of fighting for ideals. This feeling is far the best that a MMOG can give you. -The power of the unity can make unbelievable things! -Never underestimate the enemy! -Who to trust and who not to trust. -Politics / propaganda / morale / friendship are much more important than numbers and pvp ability in an alliance. -The power of smack and the meaning of not speak. -Respect my enemy. -How to pvp (bob/m0o gave me good lessons) GNW gave me also: -my first kill -my first loss, -my first gang -my first fleet battle -addiction to this game -tons of fun and the opposite (few times) -a lot of memories I really want to say THANKS to all players that took part in GNW and ofc CCP for this great game.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.06.15 04:30:00 - [174] To clear something up Kuren......first off I have always admited to having little to no experience in BKG or to do with m0o beyond knowing Sass through La Masion and comming on VNTR ts late at night since he was friends with Alex Belani who in return is my friend,Odet I have chated with in D-C channel a few times as well as in local in X-70 and orvolle usually after they kicked my ass. Early on in the GNW i was just getting randomly ganked in Pure Blind and following whatever fleet around I could,when I joined Venture I fought mainly in Dek but did tag along with Phonix a few times up to BKG. Thats it. If you doubt that I fought in GNW please go talk to Destable,LLeBRing,Notfer,Prophecy,Phonix and so forth,I was the pitiful tag along who had loads of fun being that and fully realise that the greatest achievement I got to my name to this point would be HELPING ((not souly starting)) the Gangsta Nation/ TPS civil war. Thats it final end of stroy. I tag along with a bunch of friends and have fun.
xenodia	Posted - 2006.06.15 15:55:00 - [175] Originally by: Odet Originally by: Lucian Alucard Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 13/06/2006 09:36:36 Actually Frank was the big bombathron pilot. TWD originally was a "OMGWTFBBQ" Tempest pilot when we were all in dual mwd Ravens and Mallers. Then he found out about Dual MWD Mallers and Prophs and rocked the kill boards to end. I also distinctly remember liking Dual over sized Ab, Cyclones with T2 650s and doing well on the killboard as well. err i didnt even know twd can fly a tempest... if you're thinking of m0o and tempest ur prolly reffering to vegeta. As for frank, frank flies a raven and did so in the gnw. twd in a cyclone? not in the GNW... Fairlane and Abominable did however fly them but not in the GNW. If I remember correctly, Battlecruisers werent even in the game at the time of the GNW. They were still a new item when the conflict between BoB and the NSA alliance kicked off in Deklein/Fade/Pureblind a few months later. It was kind of funny actually, because nobody had quite figured out how to use them yet, so you had all these otherwise experienced pilots flying around in BC setups that would be considered complete crap today, just trying them out.
Odet	Posted - 2006.06.15 16:18:00 - [176] setups changes, because the ships and the game and the equipment changes. Setups that were good ages ago doesnt mean they they will be good later on. _______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fr
Simitova	Posted - 2006.06.15 19:44:00 - [177] GNW was probably the reason why I m still in this game today. The most amazing part of the game mechanics was manifested in GNW: players make everything happen, nothing is scripted, if you re good it's because you play well, if you suck it's coz u play bad. I remember my first losses, then my first kill making me seriously wonder if it was better than sex It was indeed good fun, even when outplayed in every field of the game by the enemy and that says a lot about the quality of the game.
Koval	Posted - 2006.06.15 19:50:00 - [178] GNW never ended
Rebellion	Posted - 2006.06.16 02:11:00 - [179] Edited by: Rebellion on 16/06/2006 02:12:47 The GNW was probably the last, biggest war between cults of personalities. It all started with Evol losing a frigate.... It moved from a war between military forces, then turned into a war of propaganda and philosophies. I am still awed at how PA leadership managed to keep their people believing that they would make a recovery because while they believed, it was indeed possible. We had to spend a lot of effort to keep the entire field sterile. I've never written as much as I did before or since because of the political battle and information warfare. My last major involvement was trying to find a resolution to the issue of Fade and Deklein towards the very end of the war. While we did achieve our goals, the resulting political map eventually fragmented, and BoB finally left BKG after over a year of war. The result of that war really was the creation of BoB, which is probably the last big alliance still tied together by near-fanatic bonds. I think the recent skirmishes and mini-wars are just a result of the power vaccum created by so many combat players being occupied in and around BKG for so long. During their absence in the other areas, new groups formed in isolation without being given a chance to refine themselves in the fire of total warfare. I don't think EVOL has had to apply methods we used in the PA war yet. Which is maybe a good thing, as those methods were exhausting.
goazer	Posted - 2006.06.16 03:15:00 - [180] Originally by: Frezik I didn't participate in the GNW, but the RONA video made a big impression on me in showing that Eve has exactly the sort of massive player fighting that all MMOs should have. BTW--That video looks like there was supposed to be a second part, but I was never able to find it. Does anybody know where it is? Or was it never finished? wow this video made me actually realize the scope of this conflict. I wish it was finished. I am really upset i joined this game 2 year to late lol. Anymore info or videos on this war would be apreciated to further school this nub

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