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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2006.06.09 06:05:00 -
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 Originally by: 0lly
There is a Site. where different styles of fonts can been seen in Eve.
Hope this helps
0lly
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Cocoi
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:15:00 -
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Still, (this is not a "I am a typographer in my profession" rant) I think CCP is obliged to listen. First, the font already has major layout issues which they are adressing (or so I hope, system name / top text, for example) and the font has readability issues (system names: 0-O-D are VERY similar and hard to discern untrained). I certainly hope CCP has the courage to put someone on this and look what the possibilities are with the text. Typography is a major part of Eve, and it's not good as it is now. Text should be readable.
I suggest, STRONGLY suggest that CCP should go for readability over aesthetics, and drop the square font. It's not that I find it 'too sci-fi' or something, but a normal sans font (arial, helvetica, gill) has had all the pixel-pushing developments in UI's before. They are simple the most readable typefaces we know, and licences aren't the problem. Then what is? The look and feel? I could agree, but the Serif font that made Eve's typography so aesthetic has been replaced by a DIN-like condensed font. Why condensed anyway? After Castor, Eve's typography has been going downhill. And something needs to be done.
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Akiama
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:32:00 -
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I too would like a better selection of fonts and font sizes within Eve. I play on a 17" monitor (yes, it's small  )at 1280x1024 resolution and it's PITA to have the font readable and keep tme UI manageable with all the various windows the open and close.
What would be best, is if CCP remade the UI with XML and allowed us to mod it visually (not script wise though like the craptastic decision Blizzard made with WoW).
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31i73
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:45:00 -
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I have np with the latest one, I think it was an improvement. But, as someone mentioned, best idea would be to have the font freely selectable. BUT THE CURRENT FONT IS MORE READABLE THAN THE PREVIOUS imo.
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: 31i73
I have np with the latest one, I think it was an improvement. But, as someone mentioned, best idea would be to have the font freely selectable. BUT THE CURRENT FONT IS MORE READABLE THAN THE PREVIOUS imo.
I find myself concurring.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: 31i73
I have np with the latest one, I think it was an improvement. But, as someone mentioned, best idea would be to have the font freely selectable. BUT THE CURRENT FONT IS MORE READABLE THAN THE PREVIOUS imo.
There was not a single change at the font since it has been dropped onto us in RMR. For half a year there are three devs working on the font according to multiple posts by Oveur and Kieron. Yeah. Right. Someone fiddled a bit with the font rendering engine, exhibiting no skill nor knowledge for the task at hand.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:04:00 -
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font is fine
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Twirrim Notme
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:54:00 -
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Agreed.. the current font is attrocious, pre RMR was better than post, and pre Cold War was better IMO. Even a choice of the three would be a big improvement over things currently.
Line spacing is also getting to be a big annoyance for me. 1 1/2 lines?! I've now got chat screens half filling up my UI space at 1280x1024 just to be able to track all the information I need to.
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0lly
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:52:00 -
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only me .
Just a quick side note - Arial font will be up and running next thursday - would have been sooner but Im off on a stag do in Barcelona for a long weekend.
Regards
0lly
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:57:00 -
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add a option to read from your windows fonts and pick what one you want to use FFS.
CCP <3 New content over Fixing the broken content.
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Edgars Sults
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Posted - 2006.06.09 14:16:00 -
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I for one like the font the way it is now. don't change it...
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.06.09 14:59:00 -
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I like the style, and in general I can read it fine, it just has a few characters that need tweaking.
0 and O are identical, and D is very similar.
6 and & are identical
8 and B are very similar
~ is small and hard to make out. It doesn't much use, but still.
. needs more spacing. It's hard to see decimal points sometimes.
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qrac
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Posted - 2006.06.09 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Edgars Sults
I for one like the font the way it is now. don't change it...
Do you actually prefer this font to for example Verdana?
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Bertram Vetold
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Posted - 2006.06.09 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: 0lly
Originally by: Kindakrof
I have no problems with the font. Never have had any problems BECAUSE I CAN READ PROPERLY.
But since other people are complainging
/SIGNED
Shame your spelling isnt up to much tho 
Regards
0lly
It's a shame your spelling isn't any better. tho does not equal though 
I have no problems with the fonts, have had no problems with any of them.
Perhaps there are a lot of people that need to buy and/or upgrade their glasses.
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Bawldeux IV
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Posted - 2006.06.09 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bawldeux IV on 09/06/2006 21:33:44
Originally by: Bertram Vetold
Originally by: 0lly
Originally by: Kindakrof
I have no problems with the font. Never have had any problems BECAUSE I CAN READ PROPERLY.
But since other people are complainging
/SIGNED
Shame your spelling isnt up to much tho
Regards
0lly
It's a shame your spelling isn't any better. tho does not equal though
I have no problems with the fonts, have had no problems with any of them.
Perhaps there are a lot of people that need to buy and/or upgrade their glasses.
NOT signed
Well nice to see you have such a low opinion of anyone that doesn't agree with you(my glasses are fine thank you)and your delusional self proclaimed opinion (the first flame poster) that you can read better then others hints at your age and/or maturity level (grow up). Next time try a constructive post or do not post.
The font is horrible, causes to many players eye strain. A simple selection feature for the font that is least offensive and straining to the eyes of the user would be easy to set up. (great idea to whom ever originated the concept on EO forums)
filename.enu
filename.grm
filename.jpn
etc, etc...by a simple change to the extension, on the font the user would find pleasing, would take affect. This wouldn't take to much to code either CCP.
I have several monitors, and even a HD monitor and a prejector, vid card is top end ($450, sorry no free adverts of brand), so it isn't just a matter of the users choice of equipment, it is the poor design and rendering of the font itself.
The "mod" fonts look far better and make the gui easy to read WITHOUT A HEADACHE afer a few minutes (makes me wonder if this font is to limit playtime in China, after 4 hours the players head hurts so bad he has to leave the game for a day to recover).
Please think about this CCP, with the chance to select, those that have issue with the current font could change it, those that like it can keep using it.
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Akiama
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Posted - 2006.06.10 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Akiama on 10/06/2006 11:11:00
Switching out the font would make the game much more enjoyable. I would actually pay attention to corp/local chat, if I could have a reasonably sized chat window that doesn't take up 25% of the screen.
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BPO Master
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Posted - 2006.06.14 18:28:00 -
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Client choice fonts 4TW!!!
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0lly
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Posted - 2006.06.15 18:43:00 -
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Well its thursday and the arial Screenshot can now be seen.
Back to doing stuff
Regards
0lly
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Bawldeux IV
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Posted - 2006.06.15 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: 0lly
Well its thursday and the arial Screenshot can now be seen.
Back to doing stuff
Regards
0lly
SWEEEEEET stuff.
/me applauds over and over!
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Callisto Augustus
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Posted - 2006.06.15 19:50:00 -
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I have no problems with the font...
You guys and gals *ARE* setting the font to "EXPANDED" on the generic options screen, right? Otherwise, I'd agree that it sucks.
/notsigned
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.06.15 20:09:00 -
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That just makes it readable AT ALL. Still terrible :/
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Bawldeux IV
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Posted - 2006.06.15 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bawldeux IV on 15/06/2006 20:13:08
Originally by: Callisto Augustus
I have no problems with the font...
You guys and gals *ARE* setting the font to "EXPANDED" on the generic options screen, right? Otherwise, I'd agree that it sucks.
/notsigned
oh yes, most if not all those the font causes a headache have tried ALL the so called "fixes".
The alternitive fonts being presented look better, and make playing the game enjoyable again...uh...would make it enjoyable again if we were allowed to use them.
I suggest this:
many files with the same name and number extension
font.001
font.002
font.003
etc
etc
When the user changes the font, the extension is changed on the current font file (to its assigned number), and then on the choosen font file (to the used extension), and the client restarts to use the new font.
Simple solution really, and I have faith that the CCP team could code that in in a few minutes (I did this for software in the past, was the easiest way, and it works flawlessly), test it for a few days, and push it out as a patch.
Give it a good hard think, and when done thunking, let us have it CCP...PLEEEEZE
(looks like I had a simalar suggestion before, but this time I looked at my old code base to be sure how I did it back then, same concept either way)
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0lly
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Posted - 2006.06.15 22:03:00 -
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Right Im all fonted out now ... 
Wingdings
Is my last one for a while as RL now kicking back in.
Regards
0lly
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.06.15 22:08:00 -
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It looks like the gang channel of a Red Alliance fleet! 
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Ishahn
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Posted - 2006.06.15 22:27:00 -
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signed
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.15 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: 0lly
Right Im all fonted out now ...
Wingdings
Is my last one for a while as RL now kicking back in.
Regards
0lly
OMG. I wonder why or how this Windings come about. I havent met anyone who speak and write Windings.
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
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Mak'ita
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Posted - 2006.06.15 22:43:00 -
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/signed
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.06.15 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 15/06/2006 22:51:22
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=296109&page=10
Look out for the Evil Countess 0racle and her escrow scams ...
Dont forget the infamous Naai Morno and his "cap recharger II BPO" on escrow... took Naal quite some explaining ;)
The font is horrible ... no offense, but it really is. I think the information in a chat window has been reduced by 50% to 75%, because the font is only readable (and barely so) on maximal settings.
Change it, even better, dont change anything but the EULA. We players can take matters in our own hands, people found out ways to hack the font days after RMR - its just that they are treated as criminals instead of heroes.
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.06.15 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 15/06/2006 23:40:14
Originally by: Callisto Augustus
I have no problems with the font...
You guys and gals *ARE* setting the font to "EXPANDED" on the generic options screen, right? Otherwise, I'd agree that it sucks.
/notsigned
So you have "no problems with the font", even though you admit that the default, narrow setting "sucks". That is plainly nonsense.
Edit: (How rude of me...) /signed + moreover I would prefer to see users choosing their own font.
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True Tora
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Posted - 2006.06.16 01:04:00 -
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/signed
I would like font that the "0" (zero) don't look like a "O" (15th letter)
*sigh*
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