that rattlesnake fit for c4s is just an abomination... who the hell posted that?

Interesting. I thought doing them with smartbombs would make everything much easier out of simplicity.

Can you still do smartbomb apocs in a C6 Red Giant? I know people have done it, but after they changed slightly how the escalation waves spawn it seems like they might get out of range too fast.

I don't know though since I haven't tried and don' thave the resources to try.

We used smartbombing Abaddons. I don't know the advantage of using an Apoc over an Abaddon.

I've never actually done it so forgive my ignorance, but what are the lokis for?

I thought the premise was to kill all the bs before they got out of smartbomb range.


Edit: I stated apoc's in op because I saw a video of someone doing it with apocs

OP, save yourself some trouble and look here:

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace

Yet people keep asking, so obviously not a be all end all resource

you should use dreads. if youre not using dreads you should be running incursions in HS.

Shut up.

C6 Red Giants can still be done by smartbombing (used Abaddons, not Apocs) with the right fits and precision. Best if the sites are spawned already, and you have the correct warpins.

That being said, it's a lot less hassle to do sites conventionally if you're already set up for that.

also c5 data/relics can be done with a drake (the easy ones) and a mobile depot.

used armageddon battleship in c2 untill some day got blown up. it was not good idea lol
but im giving it another try

what should fit into armageddon? decided to use it because of wolf rayet star effect.

I made my own thread but i'l ask here, anyone have a solo c4 fit? is there a single ship that can run all the sites or most of them in a c4? I could prolly do a single with a logi, otherwise i'll use 4 tengus, but id rather like to see if I can do this solo. I saw the rattlesnake setup and wonder if that's all that will work?

[Sleipnir, New Setup 4]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Hobgoblin II x5

All the abbreviations and acronyms make this thread useless to brand new players.

Further explanation would be very appreciated.

The video isn't useful in the context of this thread. If you want to brag go elsewhere.

Otherwise link a fit + extra fitting mods you switch out to with mobile depot and a short explanation of when to use each fit. If you do that I'll add it to the list in the OP

Why waste everyone's time with these posts then? Its not that difficult to explain what to do. You could have easily done it in either of your posts.

Example: Warp in with x fit
Have extra hardners, extenders, tp, webs, cap, bcus
On land primary x
Refit tp/web to deal with frigs after x bs are dead
Refit more deeps on x wave

Updated

Do you know how much dps the sites tank now?

So the all mighty paladin is a go, I will attempt this. Ill asume the same sequence of events work for the kronos as well.

Hi,
What kind of matar ship should i used to farm C3 in solo on my Matar char ?
The Mael still a good idea ? (i've seen a fit for C3 solo on this forum : http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/65341-Wormhole-C3-Solo-Maelstrom-10-Mins-per-site.html )

Class 3[list]
Legion

Battleship (Sleepless Preserver), i took too much damage from him, can i change something on the Mael to tank him more ?

Btw, too much capa drain and not enough cargo space to stock enough XL charge for the dark blood cap.

Hi

Is this still viable since RR-Sleeper-Patch? And this fit is not complete? Is this supposed to be so, which I can't imagine?

thanks for some help.

Switch to T2 Barrage L to hit him, also a damage control in the low helps a lot for tank.

Cap skills help a lot. but try putting a flux coil in the low?

Perhaps you should try having a close to cap stable ship and go from there? Can you fly a Machariel?

That fit does indeed look ******. Will pull it down.

The change I'd make if using Krono's would be to warp at range from the spatial rift (garrison) so you can use that to warp to 40km on the last wave to be on top of the BS's. To be honest C5 Krono's was really slow for me in testing. It struggles to hit anything at range, also doesn't respond well under a lot of neuts, but I didn't die on SiSi in testing so there's that.

Let us know how you get on.

Could you post a updated version of a viable legion fit please ?

with new RR updates marauder isn't viable at all for c5. Maybe also categorize by what ship/(s) earns most.

which drones should i use on the ishtar fit for c3s?

I'd assume heavies

C4 W-R in Enyos + Guardians

Two nights ago we were connected to a C4 W-R. We dropped 5 Enyos, 1 Vengeance and 2 Guardians into the sites. We clocked 3 sites in 35 minutes, total haul 270M ISK.

I FRAPsed it (btw what do you all use to render FRAPS vids? I am noob at this), because I'm sure you all doubt it.

.

Hi,
i'm re-joining eve from some time, in these day i have searched a lot and now i need some feadback and some help with this fitting and this tactic...could you help me?

I will run combact anom in a C4 with two pg.
Pg 1 is in a chimera and pg 2 in a tengu.

1:
[Chimera, chimera c4]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Capital Neutron Saturation Injector I
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I

Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I

Ogre I x12
Templar x12
Infiltrator II x12
'Integrated' Ogre x12

2:
[Tengu, tengu c4]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

10MN Afterburner II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Info:
-i warp to anom and alig chimera to safe and orbit the tengu 5km on chimera
-chimera is cap stable (52%) with all active and 3675 tank.
-i use fighters for BS and integrated ogre for cruiser and frig
-tengu is cap stable(100%) with capacitor transmitter and cap stable(54%) without it (but i leave it active always)
-i use afterburn to orbit on chimera(speed 533m/s)
-tengu has 455 DPS and 1718 tank with remote shield and 858 without it

Change:
-i can change one large shield remote with one capital shield remote and use it just when needed.
-i can change target painter of tengu with shield booster for a total tank of 2010 with the two large remote shield and 1150 tank without it.

What do u think? Any advice? Help?
Maybe i need more target painters or stasis web for help the fighters?

In a near future(30gg) my 2 pg can use golem with quite good skill.
i think about to change the tengu with golem

[Golem, golem c4]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Bastion Module I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


Info:
-Dps 692
-in bastion mode 2049 tank
-cap stable 47% without Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I and cap stable 66% with it
-i will replace the two shield remote and the remote capacitor of chimera with two more Drone Control Unit I and maybe one smartbomb or a cloak

Better with tengu or with golem?
sorry for my bad english and thank u!

I don't fly legions. You're gonna need to test and post back here
hint: Test on sisi

You've already got 3 heatsinks a fourth won't help much

Hello, I currently training several characters on multiple accounts to run c3/c4 ... Can someone please give me some good advice on which of the following setups are the most effective running c3/c4's and also which ones are the most cost effective risk wise?

3x RR Armor or Shield Dominix

2x Paladins (tachyons) with 2 or 3 remote cap transfers in high slot

2x Nightmares (pulse) with 2 remote cap transfers in high slot and a Basilisk

I was thinking adding a damage rig but the dps increase was not very impressive. looks like this is just the best a legion can do then? no other better fits?

Whats wrong with this C3 Legion fit? I took it to a C2 to get a feel for it and the tank was more than enough of course but it seemed to take a while to kill the battleships.

Can I drop a tank mod somewhere and add DPS for C3's or is this about the best I can do?

http://i.imgur.com/xx0zBpG.png

Just created this fit, what do you think? Its supposed to be for c2 and maybe 3 anomalies.

[sleepix, Brutix]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
400mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Thorium Charge M
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Hammerhead I x5

I changed your fit a bit, simply because I knew the tank was so light you would have a serious hard time in a C2.
My numbers show 194 eHP/sec, with all resists 60%+. Cap stable and actually you get some neut protection with the Large battery. You even have a modest 27k ehp buffer on top of it.

Don't use crap ammo. Spend the money on Navy or Tech 2. This is 700+ dps including drones.

[Brutix, Brutix Test]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Reactor Control Unit II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Capacitor Battery II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Salvager I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II


Hobgoblin II x5

[Brutix, Brutix Test]

Did you tried that one already? Would assume, that tracking is too bad and applied damage is quite low maybe?

No, im making an wh alt.... can anyone fix it then?

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Explosive Deflection Amplifier II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Javelin M x5000
Spike M x5000
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x5000

200 passive tank on a cruiser-sized ship is enough for all c1 and c2 sites as long as you are not webbed! No need to gimp the low dps anymore.
I don't know about the tracking, but my assumption is, that combined with "just" 500dps the tracking will be bad and therefore killspeed unsatisfying.

I had checked the tracking against some highsec anoms, and while not quite comparable to wormhole anoms, the tracking wasn't terrible. I'll probably go back to the drawing board, though, and see if I can't get something with better DPS.

Thank you for the help!

I've been thinking of giving this a whirl as a solo ship in C1's and C2's, but looking at the data on the first page, I suspect that it isn't anywhere close to being feasible (only just over 200 EHP / sec passive shield, for instance).



~500 DPS with CN Antimatter, range of 40km / 15km
Javelin would probably never be used as it adds a meager 7 DPS while halving the range.
Spike kicks it out to 146km optimal with 300 DPS.

64k EHP (53k from shields), 250 passive regen.
All shield resists are 75%+

600 m / s with prop on, 240 off.

It needs a PG implant, but that isn't too difficult (1% at max skills, 2% at high skills).

It can reach much higher passive shield regen by switching out the MagStabs for Shield Power Relays, pumping the passive regen to just over 500 EHP / sec, but it drops down to only 8 minutes of cap. Tossing in a 5% controlled bursts implant pushes it up to 9 minutes.

Any considerations on this?

[reserved for c5/c6]


Escalation Guide

...
so.. is this cap - escalation - guide up to date or is it outdated?

Can a 10mn Confessor with max skills and armor/skirmish links do C1/C2's? If so, Which ones should be avoided?

Unless you show the fitting I would worry if you do not destroy your own tracking by orbiting with 10MN AB.
I have read from a standard 1MN AB Fitting, which was able to do C1 and C2 anoms, but I doubt it will really sustain for example in C2 anoms with Sentries or where you do not know the position of the next spawns and may receive very hard hits from Battleships. Anyway C1 shouldn't be a problem at all.

SVIPULSAR

C4 sites in Svipuls.

Right now we are looking for some composition that max our DPS as much as possible without having to field marauders or such. We have usually 5 members running sites, so bringing 2 guardians halves our dps to 3 ships. I have seen some interesting proposals, specially from Trinkets friend. I'm actually interested in the following:

Right now we are looking for some composition that max our DPS as much as possible without having to field marauders or such. We have usually 5 members running sites, so bringing 2 guardians halves our dps to 3 ships. I have seen some interesting proposals, specially from Trinkets friend.

If you want help the least you could do is post copy pastable fits to throw into pyfa/eft

Anyways Brutix looks fine only thing i'd be concerned about is tank and range. Being able to apply dps at range can really cut down time in site. I think you'll have issues keeping dps manageable since you're going to be webbed down from frigs waiting for drones to chew through them while you hit cruisers/bs with rails. But then again its been years since I've run c2 sites so prove me wrong

The Gila works really well in C3 sites, too.

[Gila, Passive Omni]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2

This passive fit has ~600 DPS and ~930 EHP/s omni tank. It needs a 1%-Cpu implant though. (with all V)
It can tank every C3 (combat) site. Fortunately, the sites, where you need the invul, don't have neuts, where there are neuts, you don't need the invul. So you don't have to worry about your cap.
With the drone link augmentor nothing will be out of range, no prop mod needed.
If you bring a mobile depot you can switch out modules on the fly to get more DPS where less tank is needed. You could bring some warp core stabs too, just in case someone lands on you .

The ship and the fitting is around 380mil total.

It sounds like your talking about wh diving with 2 nightmares. That's like every scouts wetdream. Get some RR domis. That way if you get caught you can atleast put up a good fight.

So it seems, thanks Aquila for the response. I have 2 other chars trained for the RR domis, but I'm having trouble using them properly (nearly lost one doing level 4's). I need a session in using the RR domis for c3 wormholes. Know anyone offering this course?

I wanted to use the NM's for their simplicity but like you said they're an easy gank target, so what about 1 armor linked Paladin with mobile depot and a cloaky Pilgrim just in case I get jummped on by a hero tackler?

If Im piloting a battleship and using a Heavy NOS

If I use the NOS on a sleeper Frigate do I get the full transfer amount (cause sleepers have infinite cap) or do I only get a small/none amount of cap cause they are frigs ? (and im in a battleship)

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity

GET SiSi
scan/scout the wh you need
lookup the site in eve-survival
rinse/repeat

Ishtar might have some issues tanking c2 mag/radar. Remember mag/radar sites are like the next class up anom. Ishtar could probably normal c2 anoms tho. Just gotta have sufficient tank or good kite abilitys. If all your looking to do is get the cans you could just kill everything except last ship in first wave. Then I don't think you'd have any issues.

I recommend jumping on Sisi and testing it out!

Noobs take note!

Is this still updated? Because the first page shows old stuff or not complete stuff, where some good advices have been listed on the last 20-30 pages.