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SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:19:00 -
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Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:35 Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:10 This game is way way way too drawn out... Take forever just to get goni then all there is after that is lame gate jumps not thrusters and really lame autopilot.
I mean come on... autopilot fighting? how *** is that. I have never been so bored in a game...EVER
Dont get me wrong the graphics arent bad but not near as good as it portrays to be.
The Jumpgate transition is stupid, you would think that it would at least line you up properly. Plus haha ...it allows you to fliy right through planets and spacestations.
At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic. And way less texture clipping. You can freeflight whenever you like, especially in a fight. I cant believe how bad this game has dissapointed me.
A word of advice to the creators... Less clipping,realistic dock sequences,freeflight ability, and please please please make it so you can actually fight, because the fighting is weak.
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Jor Azmeh
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:20:00 -
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lol
your sig makes your whole post worthless. -
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SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:23:26 lol thats funny cuz i just took it off because it was too big for this forum...
Then you posted
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Jor Azmeh
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jor Azmeh on 16/06/2006 03:26:04
Originally by: SINKFIST lol thats funny cuz i just took it off then you posted
fantastic.
how long have you played?
all your points are extremely minor issues in regards to what the game is like.
autopilot battles? never head of it. When you learn to fight more, you'll learn about adjusting ranges, power management, etc.
watch some of the eve vids for what you will actually see in the future.
edit: the planet thingy? do you know what it would entail to have a game move you around a planet? it'd put a huge load on the servers.
jumpgates? it's the same concept as in other games like freespace. -
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:25:00 -
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I'm sorry, but you're seeing EVE as something it's not. If you want freelancer then play freelancer. I play EVE because I really do enjoy it.
Each to their own. ______________________ 106 days and still a hijack virgin... Cherry popped! ~kieron
Hadron Enterprises |

SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:26:00 -
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well the thing is,
If you were to play this game for a year then it would be a $240.00 game That is a rippoff... seeing how it limits your ability to do anything interesting.
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Nicorn
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Nicorn on 16/06/2006 03:26:40 How about next time you want to try a game do some research first 
There's a bodybag out there with that scudball's name on it, and I'm doing up the zip. Anyone who gets in my way gets a napalm enema. " - Lister, Polymorph - Red Dwarf
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empireprices
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:26:00 -
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no u
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Nicorn
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST well the thing is,
If you were to play this game for a year then it would be a $240.00 game That is a rippoff... seeing how it limits your ability to do anything interesting.
I cant disagree with you more.. EVE is the most open ended mmo ever.
There's a bodybag out there with that scudball's name on it, and I'm doing up the zip. Anyone who gets in my way gets a napalm enema. " - Lister, Polymorph - Red Dwarf
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Anisha Snow
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:29:00 -
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This game you can do cool things like finding epic items like Jenny Spitfire's Caracal of Invulnerability.
I like eve
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SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:30:13 Adjusting ranges and all that is part of what i like, but you have to rely on autopilot too much...
And have you played freelancer?... of so then you should see what i mean. You come up to the side of the gate and then just disapear and it shows no travel in between...
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Jor Azmeh
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Adjusting ranges and all that is part of what i like, but you have to rely on autopilot too much...
for your post above this, you have to pay to play. don't like it? Then don't play.
autopilot is to elp you navigate long runs, after all it is a galaxy.
there is no combat autopilot. If you're referring to orbiting, then get yourself a missile boat or sniping tempest (it takes a little time) and sit back and push F1, F2, etc.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST well the thing is,
If you were to play this game for a year then it would be a $240.00 game That is a rippoff... seeing how it limits your ability to do anything interesting.
... and even playing rather casually, that'd be what like a quarter an hour? less than 50 cents an hour for sure. or if you really barely played it might be more than that... but still well under a dollar an hour.
can you tell me another form of electronic entertainment, or ... *cough* non-physical entertainment that costs less?
and limits what you can do? are you kidding? EVE lets you do practically more than any other MMO in existance. (I can think of one or two exceptions, but those aren't mainstream)
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Raven Aure on 16/06/2006 03:35:27 Ok, I'm going to do something here. I'm going to ask a straight question and I'd like a straight answer from the OP please.
What do you hope to achieve through this thread? ______________________ 106 days and still a hijack virgin... Cherry popped! ~kieron
Hadron Enterprises |

Anisha Snow
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
Originally by: SINKFIST well the thing is,
If you were to play this game for a year then it would be a $240.00 game That is a rippoff... seeing how it limits your ability to do anything interesting.
... and even playing rather casually, that'd be what like a quarter an hour? less than 50 cents an hour for sure. or if you really barely played it might be more than that... but still well under a dollar an hour.
can you tell me another form of electronic entertainment, or ... *cough* non-physical entertainment that costs less?
and limits what you can do? are you kidding? EVE lets you do practically more than any other MMO in existance. (I can think of one or two exceptions, but those aren't mainstream)
Kel Shek Nam Raan! I agree
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Altrex Stoppel
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST well the thing is,
If you were to play this game for a year then it would be a $240.00 game That is a rippoff... seeing how it limits your ability to do anything interesting.
Or you could spend 300mil ISK on a GTC....
Originally by: KilROCK Oh my god, i was so busy typing a butthole of crap on a carrier topic and i missed this!
Thought we'd never hear this one... |

SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:40:00 -
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Sorry... but sitting back and pressing F1 or F2 sounds really boring. There is no skill required to play this game. Just a lot of usless time spent by someone who has nothuin better to do. I like to jump in a game undock kill or whatever and then leave if i wish. But 4 1/2 hrs to wait while my character learns a skill just so he can get in his ship is a waste of time. The game is merely a time killer not a test of abilty/hand eye co-ordination but a test of laziness. You just have to spend hrs and hrs gettin what you want then you can sitt around and brag about what you got. Thats all i can see this game for. ( a 3d chat room).
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SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:45:22
Originally by: Raven Aure Edited by: Raven Aure on 16/06/2006 03:35:27 Ok, I'm going to do something here. I'm going to ask a straight question and I'd like a straight answer from the OP please.
What do you hope to achieve through this thread?
Ok your right about that one...But it is funner to ***** about it than is is too play the game...
I mean really in the last 5min i jsut had more fun than i did in the last 5 days of playing this game.. I played relentlessly hopin that it would change after the tutorial but i was wrong.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:35 Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:10 This game is way way way too drawn out... Take forever just to get goni then all there is after that is lame gate jumps not thrusters and really lame autopilot.
I mean come on... autopilot fighting? how *** is that. I have never been so bored in a game...EVER
Dont get me wrong the graphics arent bad but not near as good as it portrays to be.
The Jumpgate transition is stupid, you would think that it would at least line you up properly. Plus haha ...it allows you to fliy right through planets and spacestations.
At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic. And way less texture clipping. You can freeflight whenever you like, especially in a fight. I cant believe how bad this game has dissapointed me.
A word of advice to the creators... Less clipping,realistic dock sequences,freeflight ability, and please please please make it so you can actually fight, because the fighting is weak.
I can't tell if this is a serious post from a noob who hasn't tried the game much, or a joke, or both...
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Anisha Snow
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Sorry... but sitting back and pressing F1 or F2 sounds really boring. There is no skill required to play this game. Just a lot of usless time spent by someone who has nothuin better to do. I like to jump in a game undock kill or whatever and then leave if i wish. But 4 1/2 hrs to wait while my character learns a skill just so he can get in his ship is a waste of time. The game is merely a time killer not a test of abilty/hand eye co-ordination but a test of laziness. You just have to spend hrs and hrs gettin what you want then you can sitt around and brag about what you got. Thats all i can see this game for. ( a 3d chat room).
I guess you are right, You are entitled to your point of view. But who are you trying to convince? the others or yourself? Are you using this thread as a medium to convice yourself that you are right by trying to break down other people's points of views that do not co-incide with yours? Is there any objective you are trying to specifically achieve with this thread?
Please let us know, eve has probably the best mmo community around, and we'ed like to help you, even da playa haters..
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SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:46:00 -
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both
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SINKFIST
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:47:00 -
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:48:00 -
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*wonders if this is HippoKing when he's drunk*
*Yells for Wrangler to lock this and make the forums all happy and constructive again* ______________________ 106 days and still a hijack virgin... Cherry popped! ~kieron
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Arcadia1701
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:49:00 -
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they should instaban people like u, go play ur depressing realistic freelancer, that games it TOO real its BOREING. leave the forum alone now, ur wasteing our precious bandwidth with ur moaning.
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Himo Amasacia
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:58:00 -
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Thank you for playing eve and enricking our experiance. I hope you do well on your further travels.
Doors to your left.
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Lord Derik
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Posted - 2006.06.16 03:59:00 -
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Don't let the door hit ya on the way out. :) |

Josiah Bartlet
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:01:00 -
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Can I have your Damage Control I please? --- SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |

Feyt
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:03:00 -
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You must really suck at this game. Not only that but have so little to do you just want to honk about it.
1. You dont have to sit and do nothing while training. You can go do whatever yr capable of doing.
2. This isnt a flight sim, its a MMO. The flight model might be basic, but trust me get in a big enough fight and you'll be happy with the fact that your not having to calculate delta V and relative inclinations.
3. Eve is not a race to lvl 60. If you focus on nothing but training skills you bound to get bored.
4. just want to undock and kill stuff? the just undock and kill stuff. Get in a ship, fly to yr nearest belt and go hunt down rats, or better yet, settle inj a low sec system and get shot to bits by player pirates.
Strikes me the limitation here isnt the game.... but your mindset.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:08:00 -
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Please do quit, its quite obvious you're not up to the mental caliber that the rest of us are gifted with. We don't want you.
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Fierce Deity
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:21:00 -
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i have to agree with the above you sound like an instant gratification type.
there is no such thing as an "auto pilot fight". i generally fly in all sorts of random directions while fighting to figure out what range the person can't hit me at.
this game isn't freelancer, thank the gods nor is freelancer anywhere near realistic. you can't fly planet to planet in 10 mins the gravity of the 2 would rip each other apart/slam into the bigger planet. in eve if you fly planet to planet it would take months as it should. as for flying through planets there is some thechy talk as too how it's possible to do so. somshyte like opening a warpfield actually pulls you into a sort of subspace in which you don't interact with normal space. i try not to think about it it sounds to trekky.
all in all i don't think you played the game at all. if you wanna undock and fight then do so, just don't expect to be a solo pwn wagon in 10 days. ------FD------
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:21:00 -
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I think many of you forgot what it used to be like on your first day....tbqfh i felt EXACTLY the same as sinkfist on my first day or two, i had previously played freelancer and wasnt to fond of the click and move flying.
Combat seemed stupid and i really wasnt having much fun, still i stuck it out, started on some lv1 kill missions. Basically the longer i played the more fun i started having.
That first intro into the game isnt very flattering for EVE and its why only the minority stay and find out how fun EVE really is...
All i can say is (if your on a 14 day trial) stick it out till the end and then make your decision, combat gets alot more fun once you get into cruisers+ and take on the harder stuff.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST The game is merely a time killer not a test of abilty/hand eye co-ordination but a test of laziness.
So is chess. And chess is around since thousands of years. How long will you last? -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST
I mean really in the last 5min i jsut had more fun than i did in the last 5 days of playing this game..
School of Applied Knowledge - 2006.06.14 22:47:00
So you are a) a lame alt poster or b) a liar. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:58:00 -
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2006.06.16 04:56 The sleazebag is currently in the Todaki system in the Karnola constellation of Lonetrek region.
With regards, Ataru Sehshi. -------------
Somebody go over there and pop him please. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.06.16 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST The game is merely a time killer not a test of abilty/hand eye co-ordination but a test of laziness. You just have to spend hrs and hrs gettin what you want then you can sitt around and brag about what you got. Thats all i can see this game for. ( a 3d chat room).
I'll agree with this somewhat, eve is not an FPS. It does not reward people that are inherently better at common games. Is it meant to be an FPS and reward people in this way? No.
I was an avid battlefield 2 player before Eve and have excelled in all FPS games due to my hand eye coordination, sneakiness, and perhaps just natural ability. That is not the case in Eve. I come into eve with a large disadvantage compared to the veterans. But its different, and thats what I like. I like running complexes with my buddies, ratting, the politics, the always changing and somewhat effed up market (especially T2), and the thoughts of the future. When I want to go get some instant gratification I go "BOOM HEADSHOT" some people in BF2, fly my chopper, etc. When I have a few more skills in eve, I might be able to satiate my PvP needs here, but as for now I have battlefield as my 'PvP' outlet.
I have no sig, because I can't compress my picture down that far. It looks like crapola. |

Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.06.16 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: Brastagi on 16/06/2006 05:10:36 The OP reminds me of a guy when I was in newbies corp. He was ranting in corp chat how the game sucks and paying the fees is ripped. Of course he got flamed. But after almost two weeks and I was about to join a player corp. I see him lately to be less ranting and start enjoying the game!!
For me the game start to get fun in my first two-three month because I get involved in my first corp war! Pure adrenalin (You lose your ship, YOU REALLY LOSE IT... oh and implants also). Although I do really hope I can use FPS control for my ship for battle.
In case of realistic docking sequence, you ever try to think how that will be possible for a station that has high traffic such as Jita? ---------
In memory of Ghossen
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.06.16 05:25:00 -
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To the OP: free-flight ability is in game. Just double click the direction you want your ship to move, and it'll move in that direction. Double click another direction, and it'll turn to move that way. -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Dufas
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Posted - 2006.06.16 05:49:00 -
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Sounds like someone needs to go back and play yahoo checkers and leave the thinking mans game to the big boys  __________
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Chewan Mesa
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Posted - 2006.06.16 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:35 Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:10 This game is way way way too drawn out... Take forever just to get goni then all there is after that is lame gate jumps not thrusters and really lame autopilot.
I mean come on... autopilot fighting? how *** is that. I have never been so bored in a game...EVER
Dont get me wrong the graphics arent bad but not near as good as it portrays to be.
The Jumpgate transition is stupid, you would think that it would at least line you up properly. Plus haha ...it allows you to fliy right through planets and spacestations.
At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic. And way less texture clipping. You can freeflight whenever you like, especially in a fight. I cant believe how bad this game has dissapointed me.
A word of advice to the creators... Less clipping,realistic dock sequences,freeflight ability, and please please please make it so you can actually fight, because the fighting is weak.
Who are you, and do you play this game?
PS: These whining-posts are so hilarious, thanks m8 I just spread my coffee all over my keyboard. You my friend, simply have no clue.
  
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.16 05:59:00 -
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kthnxbye
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Niccolado Starwalker
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Posted - 2006.06.16 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST well the thing is,
If you were to play this game for a year then it would be a $240.00 game That is a rippoff... seeing how it limits your ability to do anything interesting.
240 dollars??? I dunno about you, but I pay 133 dollar and I consider that price cheap!! And definitely worth the money!
Besides your post stinks. Too much crap in it. Its like this. If you like it fantastic, play the game! If not, join WoW where you can play with elves and trolls swinging haxmaster +12 lightsabers or whatever.
Lets take point 1. Spaceship navigation. As in real life, you cant steer a spaceship as a car. You have to plot a destination. The speed is simply too high to have free control. Noone in their right mind would take control of a spaceship manually. They would be doomed to death!! Remember, you have to plot cource trugh astrobelt fields, space trash and other stuff. Like other ships etc.
When it comes to warp its also easy. Warp speed opens a passage in the space. It can take you thru items like planets, if it have long enough initiate warping distance. Besides, theres no warping in real life, so we dont really know how it will work. But considering how Warping would suppose to be, the current warping is not impossible.
Actually the only thing I would have liked to see from your post is docking and undocking sequenses. To see your ship take of from the landing pod, and enter space. That would be cool. But then, I would not say the game suck because it lacks this! Specially since its not a neccesary thing, and there are other things i would rather see in this game before that. Like Factional Warfare 
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BAltPoster
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Posted - 2006.06.16 06:32:00 -
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Some people like the intense FPS, some the RTS, and some like something in between. Some need action all the time, acting on instinct. Some like a more behind the scenes or thinking role. Some like combat that allows them some time to think more of what they are going to do, like a starship commander. You obviously, like to be the "grunt". So go do that, and have fun. This game doesn't appear to be for you. |

duckmonster
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Posted - 2006.06.16 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: duckmonster on 16/06/2006 06:51:25 edit: God damn it, I lost the top of this post :( I'll reconstruct it now!
Imediately your interceptors warps in, and they know what they have to do. Your 3 interceptors immediately "tackle" the battleships. one on each, circling so fast that they cant hit the little interceptors, but unable to warp out due to the warp disruptors and stasis webs.
"WARP IN AT YOUR OPTIMALS" orders the commander.
And in warps your gang of cruisers and battlecruisers. The fleet commander orders "PRIMARY TARGET IS THE SCORPION". Its urgent he dies first, because he can stop the interceptors and free the enemy from their grip. Fifteen grueling seconds later, the scorpion is dead. Alas, one of your cruisers is down. Not a bad trade however. 10mil cruiser for a 70mil scorp with 30mil fittings. "RAVEN 1 IS PRIMARY RAVEN 2 IS SECONDARY". Your ships open fire, taking both ravens out one at a time.
Finally you notice the interceptors have captured the 3 escape pods. "TAKE NO PRISONERS" the commander orders, and 3 enemy pod pilots are sent to an early grave and valhalla.
The end result? You lose 3 cruisers and an interceptor. They lose 3 battleships. When the costs of replacements are compared, a stunning victory.
The whole process from initial contact, to the chase, the hunt, the tense standoff, and the final gory showdown, can take an hour or more. This isnt a quick game, its a slow calculated process leading to a fast and violent outcome.
Its said war is 99% waiting and 1% sheer terror. So it is with eve.
And the battles mean something. That scorpion might be the enemys first, and he's spent 4 months in training for it, and 1 month saving for it. I cant begin to express how insane that first "hairy" battleship engagement really is. I guarantee you'll want a tea and a lie down after it. When you lose it , man does it bite. Consequently, you'll make ever minute in it planned and meticulous.
Seriously , this game wont offer the instant gratification of many, infact even most games, but oh my god, when it heats up the game is wild.
I've been in fleet battles with roughly 200 per side, where the verry existance of your corp is at threat due to a hostile take over attempt. And man, you can almost feel your heart popping out of its socket. When it happens its sheer madness (with a dollop of lag thrown in).
Give this game a real try. It really is space chess, but its not boring once you get into it. But if you just want a quick shoot em up, you can probably pick up counter strike really cheap at a good game shop that stocks old titles.
And hey, if you prefer freelancer, no one here is saying its a bad game. Its just not eve.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.16 06:58:00 -
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/signed
EvE is just not for everyone. The cancel button is on your left. Should move your subscription to games like Star Wars Galaxies or whatever. Think they are more suited for you IMHO.
Good luck. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Quote: Tier 3 Minmatar BS needs Target Painting for bonuses.
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Kamikazi Atlas
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Posted - 2006.06.16 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Kamikazi Atlas on 16/06/2006 07:00:57 Edited by: Kamikazi Atlas on 16/06/2006 07:00:20 You seem to keep comparing Eve to Freelancer a lot, let me continue
Freelancer cost ú30 and had a long drawn out repetitive storyline that lasted all of 20 days, then I got bored
Eve costs ú8 a month and has lasted me over 2 years now. Its very open ended and if you get bored with one thing, go do another thing.
So Eve has cost me ú192 per year, how many single player games would you have bought in that time (please, no warez crap). And also how many people would you meet in 2 years in a single player game. |

Kendar
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:08:00 -
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Well ive played Eve for 3 years now and i find it rather entertaining and the combat i love
Guess this proves the game is not for kids looking for a fast pased fps type game
So byebye fisty go try wow or somthing i think that might be more of what you look for
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Patric Murphy
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:10:00 -
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And just becouse it hasnt ben said yet:
Can i have youre stuff?
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Patric Murphy And just becouse it hasnt ben said yet:
Can i have youre stuff?
See Josiah's post.
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST But 4 1/2 hrs to wait while my character learns a skill just so he can get in his ship is a waste of time. The game is merely a time killer not a test of abilty/hand eye co-ordination but a test of laziness. You just have to spend hrs and hrs gettin what you want then you can sitt around and brag about what you got. Thats all i can see this game for. ( a 3d chat room).
Sounds like all MMORPG's to me. You grind, you get something shiny, you show it off, then someone comes along and kills you.
The difference between EVE and the rest is that if someone kills you, you dont get your shiny toy back.....oh, and its a game that discourages time wasting teenagers from playing.
Signature Remove, not Eve related. -ReverendM ([email protected]) "But...it was Monty Python! You Dev's are souless!!" - Twilight Moon
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:34:00 -
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I have to disagree with you saying there is no skill/ability involved in the game. Indeed EVE is not one of those "twitch" games where its the guy who keeps his hands steadiest and clicks fastest. Though imagine there have been times when the one who got F1 in first won . However EVE has alot to do with skill.
For combat - what to fit, when to fight, who to fight etc etc, all of thse are not preprogrammed.
Trading - Sure there are the npc trade routes which can be lucrative and remain, however atleast these are not static, if you overuse it, the price changes, forcing you to move on for a while. Player trading, there is a great deal of skill involved I know people who make billions doing it, but me I just dont have the head for it.
Mining - OK so largely this is monotony, but maybe go try mining in low sec, then you are testing more than your patience.
Industry - Sort of between mining and trading. Choosing what to make and what to sell when and where is important if you want to make the big bucks.
So to conclude, EVE requires you to use your mind, something that is not for everyone. If you don't like that, sorry to see you go. Well mostly, whinning in Forum for entertainment as you put it, does not endear you very much. _______
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The Hand
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:34:00 -
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Ok i have a realy good idea for you to make your experience with eve better.
Press Alt-f4 go to start, then control panel, then add and remove programs, select eve and uninstall, then re install wow and leave us in peace. kthx.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:38:00 -
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2004 called, they want their thread back.
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Zonna Tenshi
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:40:00 -
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This thread is quite recent actually...
Originally by: SINKFIST Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:35 Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:10 This game is way way way too drawn out...

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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:42:00 -
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Instead of flaming, I really would like to see the question answered. what's the point of this thread?? What I tend to do if I don't like a game, is either return it, if ft's cause it's crap, or just stop playing if it just ain't what i was looking for exactly ( I'm weird like that )
What I don't do is go on forums and tell all the other players of that game that it sucks, cause apparently we do like it, or we wouldn't be here. we would quit...
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:49:00 -
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To the OP.
You view of Eve shows that you have completely failed to understand its complexity and it's open ended virtual world concept.
I would recommened WoW which was designed with simpletons in mind.
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Erebus Ganmar
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Posted - 2006.06.16 07:52:00 -
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Why not join a player corp? They can help you develop your character, and get the most out of the game.
Failing that, go join Goonswarm. You'll soon start thinking about what your doing after your 38000th visit to the cloning station!
While it is divine to soar like an eagle, weasels don't get sucked into jet engines |

Hehulk
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:05:00 -
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May have been said, but doors over there and can I have your stuff?  ---------- Please choose one signature image, as per the forum rules. - Teblin |

Kazhoth
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Patric Murphy And just becouse it hasnt ben said yet:
Can i have youre stuff?
Damn it i was just looking to see if anyone had posted this.. you beat me to it .. .
ok well what is left after Patric Murphy has his fill on.. can i have whats left 
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Erik Pathfinder
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight You are the weakest link, goodbye.
QFT ---------------
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vacillis
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:51:00 -
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And have you played freelancer?... BY SINKFIST
yes mate i have played freelancer, i used to have my own copy and in all honesty there is no way it can stand up to the sheeer size and depth which eve posesses. my copy of freelancer got sold when i purchased eve as i found it too restrictive compared to eve which lets you go anywhere you want whenever you want. if you prefer freelancer then that is fine, we can not account for taste but please do not come onto the eve forums running the game down. if you dont like it, dont play it. its as simple as that. so please stop youre whining and let the rest of us who have tast enjoy the game for what it truly is ..EPIC !

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Frobisher
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Josiah Bartlet Can I have your Damage Control I please?
I'll take the 1 unit of Trit
and bye Hey, this is my reality ... and I don't remember inviting you |

Cheyenne Shadowborn
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:30:13 Adjusting ranges and all that is part of what i like, but you have to rely on autopilot too much...
And have you played freelancer?... of so then you should see what i mean. You come up to the side of the gate and then just disapear and it shows no travel in between...
Yeah. And Freelancer, while being well designed in general, managed to take out any kind of fun within two minutes after the realization that whatever better ship I buy, it will be offset by the game adjusting the enemies to exactly the level I am at. Amazing how they managed to fsck that up.
p.s. thanks - I finally have a signature  "At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic."
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Erik Pathfinder
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:59:00 -
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Oh yeah, those freelancer solar systems were so darn realistic ---------------
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Eben Rochelle
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Posted - 2006.06.16 08:59:00 -
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OP are you single cos... well I'm a bit embarassed to say it but i think i love you! Yours was the best post I have ever read. Your words moved me to tears!
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
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Posted - 2006.06.16 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex 2006.06.16 04:56 The sleazebag is currently in the Todaki system in the Karnola constellation of Lonetrek region.
With regards, Ataru Sehshi. -------------
Somebody go over there and pop him please.
Hahahaha thats what makes this game great  "At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic."
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Riho
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Posted - 2006.06.16 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Sorry... but sitting back and pressing F1 or F2 sounds really boring. There is no skill required to play this game. Just a lot of usless time spent by someone who has nothuin better to do. I like to jump in a game undock kill or whatever and then leave if i wish. But 4 1/2 hrs to wait while my character learns a skill just so he can get in his ship is a waste of time. The game is merely a time killer not a test of abilty/hand eye co-ordination but a test of laziness. You just have to spend hrs and hrs gettin what you want then you can sitt around and brag about what you got. Thats all i can see this game for. ( a 3d chat room).
think you should see games like WoW then :/
u can be combat efficent ina frig and killing ppl in 2-3 weeks :) and noobody really uses orbit or whatever in afight... ofc when its a sure kill and the enemy cant do enything enymore.. then yea.. but mostly when i fight i use my mouse to guide me in combat :P
eve skill system is the best imo.. especcially for ppl who have life... works, school or even both. u can be logged 24/7 to exp and get lvls or whatever. and the time sink... at the start.. skills take quite a long time to train.. but when u have played for 3-4 months u can do them very fast.. get learning skills up... then when u have some spare money, buy implants :D the more u lear.. the more options are presented to u... can fly more ships. can do more stuff :)
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.06.16 09:14:00 -
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I feel there is an appropiate "You Mother..." comment to make in relation to the title of this thread, but I think I'll restrain myself. : )
Signature Remove, not Eve related. -ReverendM ([email protected]) "But...it was Monty Python! You Dev's are souless!!" - Twilight Moon
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Encad Briht
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Posted - 2006.06.16 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: SINKFIST Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:35 Edited by: SINKFIST on 16/06/2006 03:21:10 This game is way way way too drawn out... Take forever just to get goni then all there is after that is lame gate jumps not thrusters and really lame autopilot.
I mean come on... autopilot fighting? how *** is that. I have never been so bored in a game...EVER
Dont get me wrong the graphics arent bad but not near as good as it portrays to be.
The Jumpgate transition is stupid, you would think that it would at least line you up properly. Plus haha ...it allows you to fliy right through planets and spacestations.
At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic. And way less texture clipping. You can freeflight whenever you like, especially in a fight. I cant believe how bad this game has dissapointed me.
A word of advice to the creators... Less clipping,realistic dock sequences,freeflight ability, and please please please make it so you can actually fight, because the fighting is weak.
Freelancer and physics LMAO. If you want to feel free flight use I-War, that had Physics. I used to play them all, but eve is a lot more tactical and i like that above spinning around while firing, more wasnt even freelancer --------------------------------------- Member of UU : Diplomatic Corps |

Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.06.16 09:44:00 -
[69]
troll alert! troll alert!
seriously, go play allegiance or something -_- dont bring that kind of crap in here.
got nothing better to say, dont say it at all
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.06.16 09:52:00 -
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eve online IS: open-ended MMO wich give a propotional ammout of fun related to the ammount of work you pour into it.
eve online IS NOT: CS in space (altho some people just play it like that ), WoW in space where you swing your mighty haxx0red axe of doom +12 and all your enemies fall before you. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.06.16 10:13:00 -
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To the OP...well sorry you wanted the world on a silver plater...And that was given out long time ago.
To the rest of the posters? Think you should stop now, he aint paying attention.
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Lielu Lee
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Posted - 2006.06.16 10:35:00 -
[72]
didnt read whole topic but...
Can i have your stuff?
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Manipulator General
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Posted - 2006.06.16 10:45:00 -
[73]
Originally by: empireprices no u
Well said.
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Keenon Flux
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Posted - 2006.06.16 10:45:00 -
[74]
stuffs alrdy gone.. hmm can i have your character? 
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voodoo
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Posted - 2006.06.16 11:10:00 -
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I dont know what to quote so I agree string up the devs bring in the leg breakers sell popcorn my god wth is this :P
I dont want your stuff
GO AWAY
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Ivan Kirilenkov

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Posted - 2006.06.16 11:15:00 -
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Since this thread is no longer contributing towards anything constructive I'm going to lock it. Please do keep in mind that while you may disagree with someone it *IS NOT* an excuse to initiate personal attacks and flames.
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GuntiNDDS
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Posted - 2006.06.16 11:18:00 -
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well,
eve is not a space-fight simulation game, but an mmorpg in space. instead of pushing gamepad buttons in rappid succession, you rely on your attributes, skills and fittings and try to optimize thoose for various situations.
i played quite some other mmorpgs before and none had the depth and complexity of eve. i happily pay a little bit more for this since i do not need any other games anymore.
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