I'm geussing those preemptive insults were because you've sen these threads before.

Should have stopped there.

Personally, I'd like to see Local in Null and Low modified to where you appear on Local for some limited time after passing through a gate -- and then your "presence" is dropped from Local unless you actively post to Local.

It simulates the reasonable concept that a jumpgate notes your arrival and therefore that simple fact is updated to "Local".

After "x" number of minutes, let's say 5 for argument's sake, you no longer appear in Local unless you broadcast deliberately.

It can be argued that npc Empire factions have all kinds of apparatus in each system to keep track of any capsuleer's whereabouts. Big Brother is always watching.

In the deep dark of Null, nobody gives a damn. And certainly not the passive apparatus of Empire factions -- because it doesn't exist out there.

I'm on this eternum guys side of the fence in all honesty. Local should show how many people in system but not details. In low and null.

Why?

There is a large amount of pilots up for this but the vocal null sec isk milkers would not wish it and thus it won't be. Null sec is full of carebears it's really that simple, why would you want it to change aye? Sure you need to keep and hold your SOV, turns out local means you don't need to actually patrol it to keep your renters safe. nope, you just need region wide intel channels and a cyno. I'm not wrong, null sec players know i'm not wrong yet still you'll all hate to see this boat rocked.

Personally, I'd like to see Local in Null and Low modified to where you appear on Local for some limited time after passing through a gate -- and then your "presence" is dropped from Local unless you actively post to Local.

It simulates the reasonable concept that a jumpgate notes your arrival and therefore that simple fact is updated to "Local".

After "x" number of minutes, let's say 5 for argument's sake, you no longer appear in Local unless you broadcast deliberately.

It can be argued that npc Empire factions have all kinds of apparatus in each system to keep track of any capsuleer's whereabouts. Big Brother is always watching.

In the deep dark of Null, nobody gives a damn. And certainly not the passive apparatus of Empire factions -- because it doesn't exist out there.

I have to say I think this feature or idea has potential. The nuts and bolts could make things difficult.

Do you envisage local visibility being set by individual pilots with a click of a button at any time? Do you think there should be a countdown timer between local visibility activations/deactivations?
Do you envisage alliances being given the tools to set their whole alliance visibility?
Do you envisage this feature being limited to 0.0 or used in low sec and/or high sec as well? If you believe that different sec status should impact on local's structure, why?

Yeah god forbid we should actually be able to use our space to rat in.

Yeah god forbid we should actually be able to use our space to rat in.

Attentive PVEers in null have a tool that allows them to avoid confrontations they can't survive - clearly this should be taken from them so they can be even easier targets.

Thx for a constructive and engaging post, it is a nice change of pace


Individual Pilot Activation: Yes. And everything in eve has a timer so IMO it would not matter if this had one.


Alliance Given Tools To Set Their Whole Alliance Visible: If I was in an alliance I think that I would like this feature. It would prevent stupid people in any given alliance from making life difficult for everyone else.

So i'd say yes. That seems like a good idea. You should run for CSM


Feature Limited to 0.0: I don't think this should be an empire feature. Null, Low Sec and Empire are meant to be different environments in the game with different levels of risk and reward. So as much as I would love to wardec people in empire as much as I want with complete invisibility... i'd have to say no. I don't think this would be good for the game as an empire feature.

Low Sec I am indifferent. It could go either way.

But Null Sec... it seems like it is a worthy feature. I mean think about it, Empire has a static local, Null has a pod count and wormholes have nothing. That would be ballanced.

Perhaps the alliance you are in could see their way to setting aside a few guys to patrol your space. Pay them maybe? With the rent isk? Some user content RIGHT THERE. Oh wait that'd be silly, that isk I am sure would be better spent shooting at carebears in high sec that get angry they are getting stopped from making isk in a risk free envir........ wait a freaking second. I see some kind of pattern....

Null sec is not empire. If you can't cut it don't live there.

WTF are you talking about?
A pod count is exactly the same as what you have now, just without the character's name. What changes? Add something tangible to this argument one way or the other so we can at least discuss it.

What changes, indeed? Why are you even making this proposal, then?

The only thing that I would have concerns over is the status of low sec. The proposed system could make pipe ganks in low sec extremely easy. Having the same system for low sec and high sec could make the transition from empire to 0.0 of future potential 0.0 players from even more difficult than it currently is.

You have not posted a single valid counter argument so far... except for the fact that you want to keep your super stupid easy button. Even CCP stated that they wanted to do away with local but now it is too engrained to do so.

So what is YOUR reasoning on this matter?

I think you are probably right. Got any ideas?

I can't really counter arguments if you haven't even made any.

Nope. Making a feature to allow all types of game play that involves a transition through 3 different security zones, is opening a bag of cats.

I can't really counter arguments if you haven't even made any.