Why? Why should people docked many systems away know that specifically I am there in the most distant and dangerous (Null) part of the game board? This is not the spirit in which EVE Online was founded. Even the devs stated that local could use some fixing, it is just that people like you cry quarts every time a fair improvement is submitted.

Mostly... because you have no real PVP skill and do not realize that such a change would hardly effect you at all. See post #53 and #54. Your ignorance and fear make you imagine a world were simply not knowing a character's name would make Null Sec a PVP free for all. That is just not the case at all.

I'm on this eternum guys side of the fence in all honesty. Local should show how many people in system but not details. In low and null.

Why?

There is a large amount of pilots up for this but the vocal null sec isk milkers would not wish it and thus it won't be. Null sec is full of carebears it's really that simple, why would you want it to change aye? Sure you need to keep and hold your SOV, turns out local means you don't need to actually patrol it to keep your renters safe. nope, you just need region wide intel channels and a cyno. I'm not wrong, null sec players know i'm not wrong yet still you'll all hate to see this boat rocked.

I like this Idea.


May the nullsec would required an ihub with a new upgrade to track peoples in local.
If not : no local (unless you speak in local).

The background could be explain by the way you said.

Whaaa! I don't like something so CCP needs to change it!!!

I want cloaked players to not show up in local, includingthe cloak when jumping in from a gate or wormhole. Decloak, appear in local, cloak up, disappear from local.

Attentive PVEers in null have a tool that allows them to avoid confrontations they can't survive - clearly this should be taken from them so they can be even easier targets.

what happened to the eve uproar I used to know and love?

..... what happened to the eve uproar I used to know and love?
Well... time to make some AFK cloaking threads I guess. Peace out.

you still have provided no reason for a change beyond "i don't like it"

noone gets instant identification of someone ten jumps away

No one should have that power, it is a poorly designed game mechanic.

yes they should and no it's not.

Attentive PVEers in null have a tool that allows them to avoid confrontations they can't survive - clearly this should be taken from them so they can be even easier targets.

I'm all up for this. It would be cool to have a system upgrade that would reveal all pilots though. This would increase the work that goes into intel for empty regions of space without significantly changing the risk for ratters and miners in more populated areas..

WTF world are you living in? Do you really expect any of us to believe that?

Why? Why should people docked many systems away know that specifically I am there? This is not the spirit in which EVE Online was founded. Even the devs stated that local could use some fixing, it is just that people like you cry quarts every time a fair improvement is submitted.

Mostly... because you have no real PVP skill and do not realize that such a change would hardly effect you at all. See post #53 and #54. Your ignorance and fear make you imagine a world were simply not knowing a character's name would make Null Sec a PVP free for all. That is just not the case at all.

the game does not tell you who's ten jumps away.

Yeah god forbid we should actually be able to use our space to rat in.

most people in null sec don't chat in local anyway. They chat on fleet coms and in alliance/corp chat.
It's just that... well... If only my picture and name was not just floating there for all to see all of the time.

That seems too one sided towards the PVP side of things. Everyone would become an AFK cloaker in any ship they wanted. So, as cool as that would be I cannot agree.

I live in a country where running my own business means I spend 4-5 hours a month doing mindless record keeping for the tax department. I did that today. While I did that I had eve running on my secondary monitor. I had an alt docked in a pipe system entering a well populated 0.0 region. When ever a gap appeared in my list of green stars, blue stars and blue crosses I linked the name beside the gap into a regional intel channel that I know was being monitored over 28 jumps away.

I watched as players next door did the same, and the players next door to them, and the players next door to them...

It may not be instant, but any decent 0.0 sov holder has this system organised to the point where an average pilot like me can travel the same pipe that 2-3 separate groups of hostiles are using, only caring about the hostiles if they are in system at either end of a jump bridge I want to use.

Oh look, more ******** lore justification for a balance change you can't otherwise justify apart from "I want it to be this way."

Bring a cyno, your buddies couldn't be bothered to even leave their staging system in the next constellation.... too much (YAWN) effort....

OP has a few good points,

why should null bears who are docked up have an eye and ear on everything, 'where is the risk'? for so much reward especially in null sec the allegedly most dangerous part of New Eden.

Local chat is too powerful as it is

It should be delayed at the very least but preferably the same as WH's

any one who opposes this change are generally null bears or botters and have not got the true essence or longevity of eve in mind.

This is why null local should remain exactly like it is. So what if we can see who you are when you only have to send one pilot in to find a target for 20+ other pilots?

Besides, OP's complaint is that his targets know what he flies, not just who he is. This is his own fault, not local channel's. If you didn't continously hunt the same areas over and over and over and over and over again, you'd probably get more targets. Ask any RL hunter.