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Dupac
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Posted - 2006.06.20 23:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Sku1ly
Mission changes aren't as bad as Interdictors not working.
This will greatly change what we can and can't do in 0.0 until it is fixed.
Missions in Empire = no real risk.
Interdictors in 0.0 = the defining tool in a fleet battle.
Nonsense
Although I don't do missions at the minute (thankfully by the sound of it) just because you don't feel mission changes are important doesn't mean lots of other people do.
Secondly, I'd put down a fair amount of money that the interdictors not working is a bug which will be fairly swiftly fixed - whereas the changes to missions are deliberate and yet haven't been included in the patch notes.......
In terms of customer service, feedback and players enjoyment of the game - major undocumented changes are considerably worse than a bug that will soon be fixed and forgotten.
Apologies for the slight rant but I do get tired of hearing that 0.0 and fleet pvp > all on these forums despite the fact that I currently live in 0.0 and do a fair amount of pvp :)
People play this game in many different ways and that is part of what makes it great
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bullet proof
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:00:00 -
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Just completed a lvl 4 drones mission (yay), to find that the minerals you get have been nerfed to almost none, for instance last time i did the mission i had nearly enough high end to build a ferox. 
But this time i had a total of about 170 zydrine (last time was closer to 2500) , ok so you get a bounty now BIG deal.
Some of us are not in an alliance or large enough corporation to go into 0.0 to rake in the rare minerals. The drone missions were i found to be a good way to boost a persons stash of rare minerals even if u didn't get a bounty.
To cut the rant short please put drone compounds to how they were as currently they suck. 
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Mad Scot
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:03:00 -
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Again I dont want to turn this into a nerf complain but we do deserve to at least be forewarned of changes to the game mechanics.
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Eraza
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:30:00 -
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i didnt see anything unsual in the one agent mission i did since the server came up, but i hear from all over that many missions have been nerfed bad.. apparently the main complaint is over drones, which dropped silly amounts of minerals, but the fix to that seems to have been to make the mission MUCH harder, and make it give approx 1/12th of the loot
also i hear that even more DEADSPACE npcs have MWDS now, which just isnt fair imo, not to mention stupid.. i thought that was supposed to be impossible, storyline wise
my main annoyance with this, is that i see no mention of this in the patch notes.. some unclear mentions of tactics changes for the npc mabey, but nothing about this..
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:36:00 -
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Plz stop posting about the drone missions and missing mission changes cuz thats been done too often in this thread already.
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Goose1965
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:49:00 -
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Warp disrupt probe launchers no longer work
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Chris Supernova
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:55:00 -
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Worlds Collide lvl 4 mission has changed Rats. They are a bit harder and with more bounty .
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Schroni
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Posted - 2006.06.21 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Goose1965
Warp disrupt probe launchers no longer work
it's still beyond me that stuff like that doesn't get noticed in testing... wtf ccp... 
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.21 01:00:00 -
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I'm inclined to agree with the general direction of the discussion on the mission changes. The considerable reduction in the alloys & compounds drop is a serious loss of mineral earnings which is by no means adequately compensated for by the appllication of bounties. I can't comment on any other changes because I've only done a drone lvl 4 since the update but, nevertheless, I think we deserve some idea of the philosophy behind such changes. Reduction in the earning capacity of players by stealth is something that I thought only RL politicians get up to!
There's always talk about CCP forcing individuals and small or newly formed corps into low sec or 0.0 to become the cannon fodder of the big and wealthy corps or Alliances; yet I'm not convinced that is an underlying policy of the game design. As has been said many times, there a numerous (fee paying) players who are quite content to bimble around high sec space enjoying themselves doing things like missions to scratch a living and would find that their ability to purchase nice shiny new toys every now and then has now been somewhat curtailed. A blow to their morale and hence their game play. Surely that can't be the designers' intent can it?
The game has to continue to develop a gaming 'experience' for the whole spectrum of players in whatever role they choose to be comfortable with. Maybe the CCP Excutive should put out an article somewhere - EON maybe - explaining their underlying intentions of how they want the game to continue to go forward and how, in broad terms, they believe this can be acheived. Then the whole community can comment from their individual perspectives.
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ElAurens
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Posted - 2006.06.21 01:03:00 -
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Since the Static Update I have been unable to log on with my main gaming rig. I get to the logon window and the progress bar goes across an dnothing else happens.
My older "browsing" machine has no problems connecting, but actually playing the game on it is out of the question.
Help.
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Theocrates
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Posted - 2006.06.21 01:16:00 -
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I find this entire procedure by CCP to be the absolute height of cowardice. Are we so fearsome that you had to hide from us when changing things around? Whats the point of patch notes and Dev blogs when you do things like this? Now at least we'll know them for the useless PR spin they are. And don't don't bother posting patch notes. We'll now have to spend our time proving or disproving what you said in them anyway. Oh and compiling our own notes on whatever else you did to the game intentionally and otherwise. Congrats on being bought out by SoE.
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Kamal Drax
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Posted - 2006.06.21 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Valar
The lag is because of extreme bandwith usage when everyone thats logging on has his cache invalidated and has to recache all item information. This mean that during logon, each client has to download somewhere between 1-3mb. This also causes issues with network traffic on the internal network of the cluster and thus, slows down the website aswell.
I truly appreciate a solid technical explanation.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.06.21 01:53:00 -
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The new rouge drone changes had better be a bug, Intentionally putting stuff like that in a patch, is deceitful business practice if you ask me.Im not sure how interdiction probes got borked. I assume a feature like this would be fixed post haste seeing as how it compleatly destroys the purpose of a ship.
Other than that its not to bad.
whats up with ccp changing stuff on a whim first market prices getting "fixed" so they no long do a DT reset. Some warning would be nice. 
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:05:00 -
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the drone missions were nerfed which is a good thing - as for missions (esp intaki) in 0.0 they have actually been boosted ISK wise and also looking at the low sec missions they have been boosted a bit to - destroyers being broken well less bubbles is good. Might free up the choke points.
Otherwise some of the other changes MWD in deadspace on NPCs is good.
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Sebastian Ix
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: RevJim
So I am seriously considering cancelling my subscription, it seems mission runners have been nerfed good style in some misguided attempt to get them to go into low sec space to earn isk.
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ChronoLynx
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:19:00 -
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Interdictor Sphere Launchers won't launch Warp Disruption Probes anymore, they got broke in the patch. Filling in a bug report now.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Kraven
Now I don't mind changes nor suprises, actually kinda cool, but what's up with the missions rewards ???
went from roughly 8000LP max lvl4 missions to 5000LP max, and the isk reward has gone done significcantly aswell.
Booo, CCP. Nice move, honk of your customer base. :)
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: RevJim
So I am seriously considering cancelling my subscription, it seems mission runners have been nerfed good style in some misguided attempt to get them to go into low sec space to earn isk. I also am hearing reports of a lot more lvl4 mission changes, changes for the worse. Pirate Slaughter? is now a deadspace mission?
CCP you killed not only my Domi, but my enjoyment of the game.
Agreed, CCP just doesn't seem to get it.
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Topaz BelleGemma
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:52:00 -
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Anyone else notice if remote buy orders are having problems? Yesterday I could place a buy order out to the range of my skills, today only station appears as an option.
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: BoinKlasik on 21/06/2006 02:57:33
I wub you!!!! you stealth patched the ganglinks for mining! I cant actually test for a changed duration right now but at least the text was fixed
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:59:00 -
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Buying off the market: In some cases the item will not show for a minute or two.
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JFxSummoner
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Posted - 2006.06.21 03:06:00 -
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OH MY can someone from CCP please explain what on earth you gyus did to agent missions and to the drone loot??? seems like there is an uproar.........L4 missions specifically i run the odd one when im in empire space but sounds like there is no reason to do so?? THX
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.06.21 03:14:00 -
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I'm no mission runner but I think the changed that have been made are quite exteme. What was the reason to change the missions?
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Vikram Bedi
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Posted - 2006.06.21 03:42:00 -
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all but 4 hostiles removed from Human Cattle 5 of 5...
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Neesa Corrinne
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Posted - 2006.06.21 03:44:00 -
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wtf happened to loyalty point rewards for missions??
I've been running the same agent for several weeks now and I know how many LP's to expect for a certain mission and ever since the patch the LP's have been DRASTICALLY reduced.
In fact, they are so reduced, that it's not even worth the time and effort to run the entire mission for the reward.
Not to mention I nearly lost my completely T2 fitted Tempest to Infiltrated Outposts today and I didn't get SQUAT for it because the minerals have suddenly dried up in the drones.
What gives with missions? If they are completely nerfed for good then I'm solidly screwed on money making since I've invested HEAVILY in social skills and mission gear. I would have never wasted the time training social skills to the point they are at now for this kind of terrible return in investments.
Fix the missions.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.21 03:48:00 -
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empire missions gimped low sec appear to be boosted and 0.0 well a level 1 is now 500k-600k rewards per combat misson (without bounties) good work CCP
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Neesa Corrinne
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Posted - 2006.06.21 03:53:00 -
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Low sec missions were NOT boosted. My lvl 4 agent in .3 hedaleolfarber got ubernerfed. More than 75% less isskies and LP's per offer now.
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Pailloran
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Posted - 2006.06.21 04:15:00 -
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I am curious what direction you are headed with the missions in general. I didn't think we had any real indication of a major mission overhaul, but it's clear that one has taken place. The rewards, LPs, and some of the drops were significantly reduced across the board, while many NPCs seem to have gone up in difficulty / ability. (Not to mention some missions are bugged to heck, have "!" for target icons, and can't be finished without petitions) So, where exactly is PvE headed in EvE?
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Jin Masaru
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Posted - 2006.06.21 04:30:00 -
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Very disappointed. Some nice changes and several horribly poorly concieved ones. Fixing a few insignifigant things and breaking a couple of much more important ones? This sounds like you're taking one step forward and three steps back. You sneak in a massive change like a halving of mission rewards,an ecm nerf, and severl others. Then you shuffle around some skill requirements (retroactively no less) for an extra slap in the face?
This is a very poor showing from you CCP. I hope you do the right thing here and revert these changes, and issue a formal apology. I'd also like an explanation as to why you saw fit to exhibit such dishonesty and poor foresight.
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Tanjent
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Posted - 2006.06.21 04:43:00 -
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CCP?
-My question. (my guess)
- What listed above is a patch change and will remain in game? (increased numbers of NPCs attacking in missions?)
- What listed above is a patch change but will be changed again soon to work as intended for this patch? (drone alloy loot?)
- What listed above is a bug and will be changed back to the way it was? (Interdictor?)
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