Warp bubbles, dictors, and hictors all make your idea redundant.

Boobles are fine. If your small fleet is having trouble going through a heavily boobled system (god forbid there are rats on the gate!!!), I would recommend something like a prop mod, either mwd or AB, and a bit of tank. Yeah even interceptors don't want to stay long at zero on a gate with rats pounding on them, but if you are dying to the rats you are really not doing it right..

I'm still trying to understand why the interceptors need survive 200km+ on each gate??? They can't be stopped by bubbles last I checked. Not to mention it's rare an interceptor can be hit by a gate rat. (Unless you are heading in a straight at or from them.) In a non inty gang you should be able to down quickly or tank the gate rats.

PS- Personally I think gate rats should shoot player structures in any case....

So you want to replace bubbles with HIC alts?

Ive been through hundreds of 0.0 jumps in the past few months... Ive very rarely run into these camps you speak of...

How about the next time you run into one of these ridiculous camps, you dont leeroy your way into the next system because you know you wont have fleet support?

Maybe i didn't write it clearly enough. Ceptors can go through the pocket, catch carrier or something. In the same time main gang have to warp on gate, row 150km toward the gate because there are 80 bubbles spherically covering the gate, jump, moving another 150km from 100 bubbles spherically covering the gate, rinse and repeat untill you reach your destination,

Skill up your reading comprehension before you post something on forum.

Perhaps you should read your own posts before responding to constructive criticism.

Also perhaps if you put some thought into flying your interceptor you wouldnt have the problem YOU listed above.

If you never saw 100 bubbles on gate 'defending' dead end pockets maybe you should roam sov 0.0 more often.

+1
Or just don't allow them to be anchored closer than 60km away from gate.
This will still allow them to be used as a dragging bubbles.

More organized groups are still using light and heavy dictors to secure the gate.

Sov holders keep talking about how highsec should gang up and do something about one coalition taking all of null.

Then when this is suggested everyone becomes very reluctant.


So whatever twists their panties gets a +1 from me. The one time I WAS interested in exploring Null I met such an uncamped gate of about 60 bubbles, and by the time I got out of it, the baddies arrived.

I have learned on the forums that nerfs are needed everywhere, just not in anybodies particular playstyle.

If nerfs are needed everywhere, then perhaps it is your own ability to adapt that needs buffed.

Small gang is dying because of mechanics like this. Mobile Warp Disruptor's need to get redone along with the POS Code. Telling people to HTFU will not solve this issue as it can only become a larger problem as people see that it is effective. Changing the nature of the mechanics before is becomes a problem is a good solution.

Besides why would you want to shoot dozens of bubbles on the gate while your position is exposed and you're stuck, tactically that makes no sense and very few fc's will 'shoot' down bubbles while having a potential engagement with another fleet. On the other hand if there is no opposition, why would you waste your time shooting bubbles when you could just move on to something more fun.

Forever bubbles need to go, they're as antiquated as POS's. Adaptation has nothing to do with this, currently nullsec involves 3 types of pvp, Frigates (mostly interceptors 30-80 people), Covert hotdropping (10-30 people), or fleet warfare with bridging(100+ people). Every playstyle has a way to bypass or quickly move through hellcamps of bubbles.

There are many more styles of pvp in Eve and it saddens me to see us limit ourselves in Nullsec because we don't want to put a timer on Mobile Warp Disruptors. Stop trolling and provide a counter argument on why there shouldn't be a timer on bubbles, become engaged in the discussion and back up your statements with something of substance.

Every playstyle has a way to bypass or quickly move through hellcamps of bubbles.

The failure in your logic is you think warp bubbles last forever. Warp bubbles are very easy to pop, so if you're caught by a 200km stop bubble, simply have your fleet pop it and continue on. As said earlier, any decently organized fleet has the firepower to wipe the gate rats. If you don't have the dps to pop a gate rat, what makes you think you have the dps to pop anything else?

In my travels throughout New Eden the only place I've seen gates uber-bubbled has been dead-end systems and EC-. Most bubbled systems only have a handful of bubbles, and if you spend half as long shooting them as you spend trying to get bubbles nerfed on forums, they go away.

Skill up your reading comprehension before you post something on forum.

Try roaming null sec more often.

My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you. Again, logic seems to escape you here. Just because someone disagrees with you, and is fairly sure the issue lies with you, doesn't mean they have low reading comprehension. Next time, try to troll with a saying you didn't just copy/paste from some other thread.


I live in null and have an alt I regularly send out into red space to partake in ninja exploration. Perhaps it's your region that has the problem. The 8 regions I regularly fly through don't seem to have more then 1 or 2 bubbles when they have them at all.

Still waiting for a discussion rather than claims, why should the bubbles not have a timer on them? I've presented my side, stop trolling and make your case.

Oh and my little part of null, is down the wormhole, and we have very little problems with bubble hell camps because entrances aren't static and the pvp is much better IMHO.

So long as the time is measured in days I don't have a problem with putting a timer on mobile disruptors. Currently, mobile disruptors are the only tool for filling the role of static warp denial. Hicters and dictors are dynamic forms that require far more training and a warm body to operate (they're also more useful in my opinion, but for different reasons).