I still can't support generic decay, there are too many strategic uses in areas of the game where time is measured in days (as others have mentioned), around POS etc.

But a "gate area" decay mechanism is perfectly fine. I suspect that rats shooting them are the "easiest" way to achieve this without too much work (and if it has the added effect of having them shoot other deployables like MTU/Depots then even better).

The failure in your logic is you think warp bubbles last forever. Warp bubbles are very easy to pop, so if you're caught by a 200km stop bubble, simply have your fleet pop it and continue on. As said earlier, any decently organized fleet has the firepower to wipe the gate rats. If you don't have the dps to pop a gate rat, what makes you think you have the dps to pop anything else?

In my travels throughout New Eden the only place I've seen gates uber-bubbled has been dead-end systems and EC-. Most bubbled systems only have a handful of bubbles, and if you spend half as long shooting them as you spend trying to get bubbles nerfed on forums, they go away.

Like someone else said in the thread, just change it so that rats will shoot at any player structures within the same grid as the gate or some other reasonable distance. This doesn't change any mobile bubble mechanics, and actually makes sense. Why would pirates not shoot at a mobile bubble a capsuleer anchored?

Mobile Warp Disruptors should be content generators, not tool for avoiding content.

Right now most of these are anchored in 0.0 on gates to prevent small pvp groups from moving fast trough space.

Devs gave us intreceptors but they won't survive long enough on rats fire when gang have to fly 200km+ to the gate and same distance on the other side of the gate.

My solution is simple: Mobile Warp Disruptors should use fuel, and has small fuelbay, for 1 max 2 hours. Or just explode after 1, 2 hours. Its fair for tactic pvp usage on grid, or setting up small camp.

You can still set up bubble on gate to your farming system, but not 50 like today.

What has Mobile Warp Disruptor to do with content? Today we have 2 oponents in sov war, Days with small local wars everywhere in galaxy are gone long ago. The only left content ganerate people from small gangs who roaming sov 0.0 systems, but current situation make this work really hard.

CCP changed rats agro (npc pirates should be more than happy that we want to kill thier Nemesis), added mjd. I hope devs don't chenged mind and this is still pvp game where small groups with high game skills can find something for theirself.

Fly Unsafe

Like someone else said in the thread, just change it so that rats will shoot at any player structures within the same grid as the gate or some other reasonable distance. This doesn't change any mobile bubble mechanics, and actually makes sense. Why would pirates not shoot at a mobile bubble a capsuleer anchored?

its not about rats its about bubbles... jeez

no

If you never seen 50+ bubbles on gate here is small example of this problem: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1407/example.png

I don't know much, but that many bubbles is probably bordering (if not directly) exploit territory since it would take your client so much longer to load the grid when you jump.

bump

bump = fail

If you have to bump your own thread, then apparently not enough people care about the topic you're discussing.

Small gang is dying because of mechanics like this. Mobile Warp Disruptor's need to get redone along with the POS Code. Telling people to HTFU will not solve this issue as it can only become a larger problem as people see that it is effective. Changing the nature of the mechanics before is becomes a problem is a good solution.

Besides why would you want to shoot dozens of bubbles on the gate while your position is exposed and you're stuck, tactically that makes no sense and very few fc's will 'shoot' down bubbles while having a potential engagement with another fleet. On the other hand if there is no opposition, why would you waste your time shooting bubbles when you could just move on to something more fun.

Forever bubbles need to go, they're as antiquated as POS's. Adaptation has nothing to do with this, currently nullsec involves 3 types of pvp, Frigates (mostly interceptors 30-80 people), Covert hotdropping (10-30 people), or fleet warfare with bridging(100+ people). Every playstyle has a way to bypass or quickly move through hellcamps of bubbles.

There are many more styles of pvp in Eve and it saddens me to see us limit ourselves in Nullsec because we don't want to put a timer on Mobile Warp Disruptors. Stop trolling and provide a counter argument on why there shouldn't be a timer on bubbles, become engaged in the discussion and back up your statements with something of substance.

Mobile warp bubbles are an excellent tool for small gang PvP'ers. I use bubbles to split response fleets up, allowing us to pick them off in small bite-sized morsels. Bubbles are easily circumvented by both inties and the use of bookmarks. I really don't understand this ire towards bubbles.

As for auto-expiring bubbles. I can cope with a 2 hr time limit on bubbles, IF their cost was significantly reduced.

Alternatively, I would rather have bubbles simply have less HP (especially large bubbles).

Remember, you might not like a bubble camped gate with 50 large bubbles. But that's 800m isk worth of bubbles that took an hour or two to setup. Furthermore, it often makes people feel "safe" in a system when an inty can come in and still tackle them with ease. Are they really a problem?