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Merin Ryskin FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.31 00:55:00 - [61] Originally by: Wuff Wuff OK, I am having problems. I can fit a cov ops cloak, recon probe launcher, 6 best named racial jammers and a sensor booster 2, but then I have no CPU left for the signal distortion amps. What am I doing wrong? Also, how does the Falcon honestly compare to the Rook? Is the warping while cloaked ability (lets say particularly for small gangs) worth it compared to the damage dealing ability of the Rook? Absolutely yes, unless your gang already has a covert ops pilot. The scouting and mobile warp point abilities of a covert ops ship are priceless to gangs. Anyone can do damage, but a good covert ops pilot is hard to replace.
Ryysa North Face Force Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 01:06:00 - [62] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Wuff Wuff OK, I am having problems. I can fit a cov ops cloak, recon probe launcher, 6 best named racial jammers and a sensor booster 2, but then I have no CPU left for the signal distortion amps. What am I doing wrong? Also, how does the Falcon honestly compare to the Rook? Is the warping while cloaked ability (lets say particularly for small gangs) worth it compared to the damage dealing ability of the Rook? Absolutely yes, unless your gang already has a covert ops pilot. The scouting and mobile warp point abilities of a covert ops ship are priceless to gangs. Anyone can do damage, but a good covert ops pilot is hard to replace. I'd like to add to this excellent post the fact that keeping your EW cloaked and uncloaking it when you really need it, doesn't result in your EW getting taken down as the first target at the start of the battle. N.F.F. Recruitment
Ddrake	Posted - 2007.03.31 03:20:00 - [63] okay guys, rate my set up! x2 limo heavy missiles launchers x1 cyno field generator x1 covert ops cloak x1 sensor booster x4 racials x2 multi's x2 signal distrotion amps x1 1600mm plate and 2 rigs: 1 that increases ecm streght, and the other one that reduces cap. what ya think?
Eternal Light Caldari Global Solutions	Posted - 2007.03.31 03:41:00 - [64] i use this setup (recon lvl4) 1 recon probe launcher, 1 cov ops cloack 7 racial (better named) 2 hypnos signal distorsion, 1 plate 800mm tungsten 1 rig boost ecm, 1 rig reduction time scan work really nice
Waxau Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.31 11:32:00 - [65] Originally by: Eternal Light i use this setup (recon lvl4) 1 recon probe launcher, 1 cov ops cloack 7 racial (better named) 2 hypnos signal distorsion, 1 plate 800mm tungsten 1 rig boost ecm, 1 rig reduction time scan work really nice Good setup, although i personally wouldnt fit a plate - In 0.0, if you're caught in a bubble, you need to be able to move fast whilst cloaked. And even when not in a bubble, you need to warp fast anyhow. Plus if you're going to go for rigs + cov cloak and the named EW, then you might as well go for t2 signal distortion amps.
Waxau Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.31 11:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Ddrake okay guys, rate my set up! x2 limo heavy missiles launchers x1 cyno field generator x1 covert ops cloak x1 sensor booster x4 racials x2 multi's x2 signal distrotion amps x1 1600mm plate and 2 rigs: 1 that increases ecm streght, and the other one that reduces cap. what ya think? Dont fit launchers - If you are in any situation where you can deal DPS - you're in the wrong situation and most likely will die anyhow. Probe launchers usually are handy, as you're one of the few in gang who can sacrifice a high slot. (no need to deal damage etc) I tend to stick with all racials. IF by chance you dont jam someone, you can always shove the other jammers on them - And chances are you'll jam them with the wrong race ones anyhow :P Sensor booster is useful in some occurances, but you're a cruiser with a huge lock range, so i usually dont bother. Multi's recieve less of a boost from the bonuses of a falcon, compared to racials. So as i said - Go all racials if i were you. Sig distortion amps = a-ok. However as i said to the poster above, plates i tend not to go for. You arent on the very very front lines, so you can warp out most of the time before you go pop. And considering its a 1600 plate, you're gonna be SLOOOOW. If anything, fit an i-stab, or overdrive. But its a decent setup in terms of knowing what you're doing. But trick is, to prepare for anything.
Ryysa North Face Force Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 12:30:00 - [67] If you are going to be jumping into stuff without scout in 0.0 you really need a MWD, otherwise if you jump into any competent dictor pilot, you're dead meat (unless you log off). N.F.F. Recruitment
Waxau Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.31 15:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Ryysa If you are going to be jumping into stuff without scout in 0.0 you really need a MWD, otherwise if you jump into any competent dictor pilot, you're dead meat (unless you log off). Last thing a falcon pilot wants to do is sacrifice a med slot for an MWD. Bubbles are my only fear when flying. But at the end of the day, id prefer to have ECM for 99 situations out of 100, rather than having an mwd for that 1 situation. Personal preference i guess
Wuff Wuff	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:35:00 - [69] Originally by: Wuff Wuff OK, I am having problems. I can fit a cov ops cloak, recon probe launcher, 6 best named racial jammers and a sensor booster 2, but then I have no CPU left for the signal distortion amps. What am I doing wrong? Also, how does the Falcon honestly compare to the Rook? Is the warping while cloaked ability (lets say particularly for small gangs) worth it compared to the damage dealing ability of the Rook? Thanks to the two guys that replied directly to my post, very helpful. However, I still need help working out why I don't have the CPU to fit the signal distortion amps when everyone else seems to be having no problem. My electronics skills are decent so I don't understand what I'm missing. I'm looking at having to fit a CPU2 at the moment which is obviously not the best solution.
Wuff Wuff	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:45:00 - [70] Scratch that. For some reason when I logged into today I suddenly had enough CPU to turn everything online everything. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? The only skill that finished in between time was long distance jamming 4
Sigiryavrusu	Posted - 2007.05.05 15:56:00 - [71] I am just training up my Recon skills now, and being caldari the falcon is the easiest one for me to get into. Now I will spend alot of time in our corp's recon squad, and will of course take my role as the jammer, no problem. But during my solo time, is the falcon plausable as a solo ratter killer? Could I jump a ratting/mission running BC/BS and jam/scramble him to the point that the rats will whittle him down? Or is that not realistic? If so, what build would you guys suggest for that? Just looking for something to do when not running with the gang really.
Waxau Liberty Rogues Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.05.05 19:29:00 - [72] Originally by: Sigiryavrusu I am just training up my Recon skills now, and being caldari the falcon is the easiest one for me to get into. Now I will spend alot of time in our corp's recon squad, and will of course take my role as the jammer, no problem. But during my solo time, is the falcon plausable as a solo ratter killer? Could I jump a ratting/mission running BC/BS and jam/scramble him to the point that the rats will whittle him down? Or is that not realistic? If so, what build would you guys suggest for that? Just looking for something to do when not running with the gang really. Nope. Most mission runners could tank the hostiles for a fair amount of time, or atleast i can. As for damage, you wont be able to do anywhere near enough to break a frigates tank, so theres no point there either. As for SETUP (not build:P) id go for multispecs (6) and 1 scrambler. High slots being cloak and nos, and low slots being 2 sig distortion amps, and 1 plate. Should be enough. But the chances of it working are slim.
Lemurianus	Posted - 2007.05.06 05:18:00 - [73] I plan to use this ship as a support ship while conducting exploration in low sec. First I search the signatures with a covert ops (better for that) and then I will use the recon to get rid of the npc rats in arc/salv and hacking sites, since she can pack enough firepower to take them out, search the cans with the propper tools, and stil can travel unseen. But before I use her for that role, can anybody give me some help about this?
LordChaos Amarr Purple Monkey Squadron	Posted - 2007.05.06 05:41:00 - [74] i got with 1 covert op cloack 1 scan probe 2 HAM II 6 Racial jammers 1 AB its good when in 0.0 and need to get out of bubble 1 Inertia stab 2 Signal amplifiers 2 2 rigs for speed or agility The Master Of Chaos P-M-S KB
Waxau Liberty Rogues Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.05.06 10:22:00 - [75] Originally by: Lemurianus I plan to use this ship as a support ship while conducting exploration in low sec. First I search the signatures with a covert ops (better for that) and then I will use the recon to get rid of the npc rats in arc/salv and hacking sites, since she can pack enough firepower to take them out, search the cans with the propper tools, and stil can travel unseen. But before I use her for that role, can anybody give me some help about this? Your recon ship wont pack enough firepower, i can tell you that. If you're talking about the falcon that is, seeing as you said about travelling unseen. Rook is different, but gimped in its own way.
Leikung	Posted - 2007.05.09 06:49:00 - [76] Originally by: Mo Steel Any other suggestions for Falcon setups? The Falcon is a single mission ship. Slink out and lay a cryno field. Thats it. Dont try any make a silk purse from a sows ear. I fly both the Falcon and Rook. The Rook is my all around get the job done ship.
Elenor Tri Optimum Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.05.09 08:07:00 - [77] Originally by: Leikung Originally by: Mo Steel Any other suggestions for Falcon setups? The Falcon is a single mission ship. Slink out and lay a cryno field. Thats it. Dont try any make a silk purse from a sows ear. I fly both the Falcon and Rook. The Rook is my all around get the job done ship. ofc the rook is the better jammer, but from time to time something is needed that can sneak in, or probe someone, a rook cant do that, and flying a covert in a roaming gang is quiet boring. Personaly i go with Heiki High Gang mods - remote rep, probe launcher med - namend racial jamer sb2 low 3 SDA Nos and whatnot are absolut useless imo and i cant see the dps of the falcoon being a solo ship.
bonesy19uk Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.05.17 20:00:00 - [78] Edited by: bonesy19uk on 17/05/2007 19:58:10 The whole point of Falcons is to stay at max range and to use it as part of a gang. It's a pretty nasty ship in an empire war especially. Personally I like the thrill of a scan probe hunt, so I tend to fit nanos/ODs in the lows to maximise speed when cloaked. A scan time rig is also very useful, as well as an ECM srength rig, to bump it up to the Rook's ECM strength bonus. Hi: 1 x Probe Launcher 1 x Remote Rep (for Safespot repping) Med: 1 x Sensor Boost II 6 x ECM of choice Low: 3 x Nanos Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes -------
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:51:00 - [79] Originally by: Leikung Originally by: Mo Steel Any other suggestions for Falcon setups? The Falcon is a single mission ship. Slink out and lay a cryno field. Thats it. Dont try any make a silk purse from a sows ear. I fly both the Falcon and Rook. The Rook is my all around get the job done ship. Hmm, 100mil cyno ship vs a 4-5 mil cruiser or even a hauler.... Theres a reason people have cyno alts. --------------------------------------- CEO 808 Enterprises, A Hawaii, USA Playercorp Serving The Caldari State.
Battalier Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.13 10:35:00 - [80] Edited by: Battalier on 13/06/2007 10:36:34 What role does a Falcon have, it doesn't even have enough defenses to last long enough to be used as bait. I am currently attempting to fit a shiny new Falcon as a member of a force recon group, but... there-in lies the dilhema... how to fit this ship to join a gang of supposed peers in a Force Recon group. So far I have: Hi: Covops Cloak, 2 x HML II Mid: SB II, 6 x Racial Jammer IIs ( 2 x gallente, 2 x Minmatar, 1 x Caldari, 1 x Amarr) Low: 2 x SDA II, Co-Processor II Rig: 1 x Particle Dispersion Augmentor (Jamming Strength) Where I need assistance is with the last Hi Slot and 2nd Rig slot. No way I can fit a Recon launcher, this ship just does not have the cap to make it viable. And I am not into suicide, so please dont suggest Cyno Gen. Many thanks in advance for your help if offered.
Waxau Amarr Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.06.13 15:33:00 - [81] Falcons dont do any dps (even when fitted with weapons :P) Its just not something they do. So dont bother. Fit it from the ground up - Recon Launcher, cyno generator, cloak. No weapons as such. Then ECM. Then signal distort amps and/or a plate. Its role in a gang is simply to remove the DPS taken by friendlies. To do that, you jam the most influential ship. Whether thats a gankageddon, or what have you. doing that then increases friendlies survivability, and therefore your own successfulness in gang.
ElCheeco mofo Caldari Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.06.13 16:27:00 - [82] This set up has most probably been mentioned before but hey, im bored at work Highs 1x Cov ops cloak 2x heavy launchers 1x dual 150 T2 Mids 4x racial jammers T2 2x Multispec jammers T2 1x Sensor booster T2 Lows 2x Signal distortion amps T2 1x 1600 RT Havent tried rigs yet but the ecm cap usage and strength seem like a good choice. This set up would be for a roaming gang situation. I know i should be fitting a probe launcher but I havent trained the skills very high Been distracted by the sleipnir
velmistr Ecco Caldari InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:40:00 - [83] Originally by: ElCheeco mofo ... Why everyone uses t2 ecm and t2 distortion amplifiers? And then rig that counters ecm cap usage? It is way cheaper to use best named ecm and hypnos (best named) signal dist. ampl. The rest: weapons are useless and i wouldn't use 1600mm plate - istab/overdrive/nano is better.
velmistr Ecco Caldari InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:42:00 - [84] Originally by: Lemurianus I plan to use this ship as a support ship while conducting exploration in low sec. First I search the signatures with a covert ops (better for that) and then I will use the recon to get rid of the npc rats in arc/salv and hacking sites, since she can pack enough firepower to take them out, search the cans with the propper tools, and stil can travel unseen. But before I use her for that role, can anybody give me some help about this? Don't use falcon/BB against NPC. Even if you are in gang and all are aggressed on your friends - when ECM fails you are primary.
Wynn Starsider Hard Corp Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.07.02 04:19:00 - [85] Made a alt just to fly the falcon and today was the day, this is what I came up with. This is what I came up with x1 cyno field generator(maybe) x1 covert ops cloak x1 recon probe x1 sensor booster II x4 Racials(one of each) x2 Hypnos x2 Hypnos signal distrotion amps x1 ???????? What skills are must have before I take this out over the black bird? Love any input
Wynn Starsider Hard Corp Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.07.02 05:30:00 - [86] One more question has anyone try overloading there ECMS?
Nicolas Vairaktaris Caldari Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.04 02:31:00 - [87] How about this for a gank set up, to be used in enemy terrotry to find ratters. Highs: 2 x HAM 1 x Covert Ops Cloak II 1 x Recon Probe launcher Mids: 1 x Warp Disrupter T2 2 x Fleeting Webbers 4 x Hypno's multi ECM Low: 1 x Signal Dipresion Amp 1 x Signal Amp T2 Rig: 2 x ECM bonus Rigs (forget thier name) The Idea is you jump into a enemy sytem cloak, probe out or bounce around the belts till you find something, get in range, uncloak, call in your gang, Scram, Web and Jam your enemy.
The Ice Caldari HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.07.07 10:53:00 - [88] Edited by: The Ice on 07/07/2007 10:52:52 I like falcon..Smile Lets see my fit: High slot: 2 t2 heavy launcher 1 named med nos 1 Cov ops cloak Med slot: Always need it: 4 racials jammer(best named) 1 t2 large shield extended 1 10mn t2 mwd If you are scouting: 1 x warp disruptor t2 ro better gate camp: 1x t2 sensor booster rigs this time: particle dispersion augmentor 1 particle dispersion projector 1 If you got good skills you can jamming 200km alternativa: 1* named multi Low slot: signal distortion amp. t2 2 3. slot If you are scouting then: inertia. Ganking: + armour Gate camp: signa dist. Rigs: particle dispersion augmentor 2 Jammer streigth: 10 [link]http://www.huncorp.hu/characterdetails.php?CharacterID=9257[/link]
Random Incarnate Australia and New Zealand Eve Corp Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.09.18 09:29:00 - [89] Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Eternal Light i use this setup (recon lvl4) 1 recon probe launcher, 1 cov ops cloack 7 racial (better named) 2 hypnos signal distorsion, 1 plate 800mm tungsten 1 rig boost ecm, 1 rig reduction time scan work really nice Good setup, although i personally wouldnt fit a plate - In 0.0, if you're caught in a bubble, you need to be able to move fast whilst cloaked. And even when not in a bubble, you need to warp fast anyhow. Plus if you're going to go for rigs + cov cloak and the named EW, then you might as well go for t2 signal distortion amps. As with all the ECM mods, best named > t2...even if in the case of the signal dist. amps, it's 1tf difference.
Jarne Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.09.18 14:36:00 - [90] Originally by: Nicolas Vairaktaris The Idea is you jump into a enemy sytem cloak, probe out or bounce around the belts till you find something, get in range, uncloak, call in your gang, Scram, Web and Jam your enemy. For that the Arazu is the better ship. You really don't need a Falcon, when you outnumber the enemy as in the case of a lonely ratter. If you're facing equal odds or the enemy's got superior numbers, then a Falcon might turn the scales... - Success=Achievements/Expectations

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